Sid Roth

SID: But how would you even know what to do with those words?

ROLAND: You know at that moment I didn’t. I was as shocked as them. I wasn’t sure really what to do. It was an invitation from the Lord into a moment. I think he was actually putting me through spiritual paces for what would come. Actually, this wasn’t an exercise in doing something with that. It was an exercise in knowing and it was an exercise in discerning and it was an exercise into leaning in and saying, “Yes,” to what the Father was opening my eyes to.

SID: But another thing that fascinates me about Roland is his work with the underground church and the miracles and the people coming to know Messiah. Tell me a few of those miracles.

ROLAND: Yeah. Yeah, there’s a massive move of God going on in the Middle East, in the country that we work in, Iran, particularly.

SID: Here’s what I’ve been told by experts. That outside of China the fastest growing church in the world, the last place you and I would think, Iran.

ROLAND: It’s exactly right. It’s one of the fastest growing churches in the world and it’s a movement of signs and wonders. It’s a movement of miracles, lots of visions and visitations. One testimony from one of the networks that we work with.

ROLAND: They were called into a meeting with quite an important person and thought they were in trouble and actually in a closed meeting were told, “The reason why we brought you here was our son was terminally ill. He was watching Christian television upstairs and he was touched by Jesus, walked down the stairs, which he wasn’t able to do, into our living room. What do we do about this person of Jesus? What do we do with this?” Miraculous.

SID: Yeah, beautiful.

ROLAND: Eight out of 10 people that we know that have come to Christ from Iran, it’s either through visions, dreams or direct visitations from Jesus.

SID: Tell me another person.

ROLAND: Yeah. This was here in Texas, where I’m from. It was a lady with a blind eye in the middle of worship. We began to release healing in the room and her eye popped open supernaturally, medically blind. We have it verified. And screamed, as you would if your eye suddenly opened. It wasn’t a reserved thing. She just began to explode and her blind eye was opened and healed in the presence of God.

SID: In the atmosphere of God all things—

ROLAND: Yes, in the atmosphere of God.

SID: .. all things are possible. Now 15 years ago, I managed to pry this out of him. He doesn’t share this too much but 15 years ago you had a new experience and you were called up to Heaven. Tell me about it.

ROLAND: Yeah. I don’t talk about this a lot. But yeah, 15 years ago was an introduction and it was a supernatural invitation and calling into rooms in Heaven. One particular place that I visited several times, it became known to me, aware that it was the nation strategy room.

RANDY: Yes.

SID: Explain.

RANDY: Well, I returned from that interview, and went straight to bed at home. And then I got up in the middle of the night, and my calf was sore. In fact, it was so sore, I could barely walk down the stairs. And so I finally got down the stairs, and I normally would bike up the coast. And so I got my bicycle. I started bicycling up the coast, but not only was it difficult to bicycle up the coast because it felt like a climbing a mountain, but I was very winded, and I didn’t understand this. Normally, the ocean would soothe me and comfort me, but it did not. So I struggled to get back home because I could not breathe effectively at this point, and my right leg was sore. I got home, and we were planning a trip to the mountains and that was after a long deal of stress.

RANDY: And so I decided, I should have known better. I went to the orthopedic doctor, the bone doctor of all things, and I wanted an anti-inflammatory to reduce the swelling, because my calf was about one and a half times its size, and I collapsed and ended up in the ER.

SID: What was the matter?

RANDY: I was diagnosed with six blood clots. And because I had let them go in an exercise, those blood clots had traveled up the leg, they had enlarged, and they had lodged within my pulmonary artery, which is the main blood flow to the lungs. And in addition to that, they rushed a patient out of the room, and I didn’t understand until later, one of the nurses told me that that patient had MRSA, which is a bacterial resistant strain, and I mean a drug-resistant bacteria. And what happened there is that that caused further clotting with my body. So it was like a traffic jam throughout my body. I was clotting all over to the point where the doctor could not pull out a blood sample from, from my brachial artery or my arm.

SID: The next day, you had an encounter with the God you were angry with. What happened?

RANDY: I went into septic shock and cardiac arrest. My heart stopped. And this was during a period of a little over 30 minutes. I started flopping on the bed like a floppy fish out of water, and then everything went dark. And I saw immediately thereafter, I saw what I know today to be warring angels. These were otherworldly figures. On one side, were brilliantly, or just clothed angels. On the other side, they looked more worn, and they were battling with what looked like swords. And I couldn’t quite figure it out, but I knew this, Sid, I knew that I needed to cry out the name of Jesus Christ. And I cried out the name of Jesus Christ. And immediately I was side to side with a figure, and his soft robe was against me. And he wrapped his left arm around my left shoulder.

SID: Why would she even say that?

MAX: Because she had talked to Cheryl at 11 o’clock. So now, three o’clock, and we talked about agents and books and things like that. So Josiah comes home. Without hearing from her at all, and starts typing, alluding to a person. And she said, “Does this have anything to do with Max?” So that’s all he got was my name, Max. And Josiah’s response was, “Lots to do with Max. He’s not only a major novel writer, but he knows valuable sameness is not always the best approach.” He identified me as a writer and a novel writer with just getting my first name. And, listen to this, I was finishing up a major novel with a major publisher and my book before that was a novel, but I normally do nonfiction. So he not only identified me as a writer, but as a novel writer. I could have been anybody. So then Tahni got my contact information and sent me that message. And, of course, I was very skeptical. But that was just the beginning of this incredible journey.

SID: I don’t think anyone can comprehend this young boy. He takes one finger and he has an iPad and he just types these messages.

MAX: Yes.

SID: But even today, he can’t talk.

MAX: No. And it’s not connected to the internet. He cannot access the internet. He can’t even turn the page on the paper he’s so locked up. It’s supernatural.

SID: You went to visit him one time.

MAX: I did.

SID: And what I read was he spent most of the time under the covers with his iPad.

MAX: Yeah. It was an eye-opening experience. After two years of words from him, words that changed my life, I finally decided I needed to go visit him. And, when I did, it just opened up my eyes to how incredibly difficult the situation was and it was definitely a miracle.

SID: Well, I’ll tell you what’s even more amazing with that, he’s not even Jewish.

MAX: No.

SID: And he set you free from Jewish guilt and you’re not even Jewish.

MAX: That’s right.

SID: Tell me about that.

MAX: So I was praying intensely in the morning. I was praying about two hours in the morning in my office this particular season, and this word was on July 10, 2016. And my wife and I were writing a book. My wife was helping me work on a book for another person. And we stayed home from church that day to work on the book, and the book was entitled First Fruits. And we worked all day on that book. And about one o’clock, I got really, really tired and felt like, man, I have to take a nap. And I told my wife, “I feel really guilty about taking a nap because we skipped church to work on this book and we have so much work to do.” And my wife looked at my eyes and she said, “It’s okay to take a nap as long as you’ll write tonight.” So I took this long three-hour nap. Woke up. I wrote all night long. And it was like the Holy Spirit was just on me, on my hands. It was amazing. The next morning I get a sovereign message from Josiah in Minnesota. I’m in Louisiana. And you know what he said?

SID: When we come back, I’m going to have you stretch out your hand and pray for the viewers. What is actually happening when you stretch out your hand?

KYNAN: When I stretch my hands and I pray, it’s not just a prayer, it’s an impartation. I believe millions of people watching are going to receive an impartation for the supernatural. It’s going to become very normal for them. I’m telling you, we’ve had all kinds of testimonies about this, Sid.

KYNAN: I’ll be honest with you, I was a little bit upset about the testimonies because they never testified like this with my other books. I thought, “Well, that’s just not fair. Those were good too.” In all seriousness, people are beginning to get this, Sid, and it’s changing their lives.

SID: I want your life to be changed. When we come back, I’ll have him stretch out his hand and pray for you.

SID: Kynan, why is knowing your identity so important?

KYNAN: Identity represents everything that we are. Everything we were able to do. It represents our authority. You see, Sid most of my life, most of my life, including a large part of my Christian life, I was lost. What I mean by that is yes, I was in the church and I spoke in tongues.

KYNAN: I read my Bible, but I didn’t really know who I was. I found myself wrestling my way through my Christian experience. Then, I looked around and I saw the other people were doing the same thing. One day, God literally began to deal with me about what it meant to be a new creation. I thought about it.

KYNAN: I said, “If I’m a new creation, then that means the old is gone and the new has come.” I thought, “If the oldest going to the newest come, that means the old habits, ways of thinking behaviors, those have passed away too.” Then I thought then what about the old insecurities that I had? The fears, the fear of being rejected?

KYNAN: The fear of failure? That’s passed away too. Then, it’s like a baby being born. You’re literally like a baby coming out of the matrix of your mother’s womb. That baby is fresh. They’re not recycled. We don’t believe in reincarnation. Christians shouldn’t behave like they’ve been recycled. We’re not refurbished.

KYNAN: We’re brand new. We’ve never existed before. We’re a new species of being. When people ask me sometimes they say, “As a black person, or they’ll say African-American.” I said, “No, no, no. New creation.

Audience: Amen.

KYNAN: I’m a new race of being. I’m a totally different species.

SID: You actually use an adjective that is strong. You say you become a dangerous new creation. Dangerous to who?

KYNAN: The demons, the devil, the kingdom of darkness. You become an existential threat to the kingdom of darkness when you realize who you are. That’s why I say invite this so much. Sid, I’ve been doing supernatural ministry for a long time, as you know.

SID: I know.

KYNAN: I’m telling you now, now, with this, it’s become easier than it’s ever been. It’s not about what I’m doing or what I’m attempting to do. What it’s about now is allowing God to express himself through me. I heal people on accident. I believe it’s going to get to the days, Sid, where it’s going to be like when Peter’s shadow healed people.

DIANE: But I know that this is for every single believer. God wants every person walking, living, and being a glory carrier, releasing the glory of God. The anointing is not enough, Sid. Because we work the anointing. The Bible says out of our belly flows rivers of living waters. The Holy Spirit is working with us. We’re working with Him. But when the glory of God shows up, Father God shows up, and it’s all him, and we don’t do anything. We don’t get the credit. He gets all the glory. And so it takes off a load.

SID: But this is all the time with you. I kind of protest. I want it all the time with me. Any of you in the studio audience want it all the time?

Audience: Amen!

SID: I know in a moment I’m going to have Diane release that glory. And I’m going to pray that when she does this, you will experience, some of you for the very first time in your life, that you’ll feel or you’ll see, or you may, you know, at Pentecost they even heard a sound like a rushing wind. The glory of God. With every one of your natural senses and your supernatural senses. But I’ve got to pray with you right now.

SID: Some of you haven’t, you’ve entered into religion for many, many years, but some of you haven’t entered into your own experience. It’s good that I had an experience. It’s good that Diane had an experience. It’s good that the whole world would have an experience. But what about me? God hasn’t forgotten you, and that’s why I’m going to pray with you right now to know Jesus.

SID: Repeat out loud after me, Dear God …

Audience: Dear God …

SID: I’ve made many mistakes …

Audience: I’ve made many mistakes …

SID: For which I’m so sorry.

Audience: For which I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe …

Audience: I believe …

SID: Jesus died for my mistakes.

Audience: Jesus died for my mistakes.

SID: And by his blood …

Audience: And by his blood …

SID: I’m not only forgiven …

Audience: I’m not only forgiven …

SID: But you have no remembrance of my past.

Audience: But you have no remembrance of my past.

SID: And now that I am new …

Audience: And now that I am new …

SID: Jesus, come and live inside of me.

Audience: Jesus, come and live inside of me.

SID: Be my savior and Lord.

Audience: Be my savior and Lord.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: Diane, I’m going to experiment. I might regret this. I’m going to experiment. Do you think you could stand up and pray?

DIANE: Sure.

SID: What do you think? Say all things are possible.

DIANE: I think I can. Yes, yes, all things are possible. Wow. Whoa. Wow. Okay. Father God, right now in the name of Jesus, Father, thank you for the blood of Jesus that allows us to enter boldly into your throne room. And Father, I just thank you right now that you’re so amazing. You’re so awesome. You’re so glorious. And Father, I just thank you right now for just releasing an impartation of your glory right now, Father God, upon these in this place right now in this studio right now. Father, let your glory just fall upon them. Father, let them be caught up in your glory. And Father, even those watching, Lord God, I thank you, Father God, that they’re being captivated by your love. They’re being captivated by your heart. They’re being captivated by your glory.

DIANE: Father, thank you, Lord God. Thank you. And I just pray these things in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen and amen. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

SID: Everything speeds up. Prayers speed up in the glory, but this is the over the top. Everyone’s heard of Kanye West, right? Tell me about the prayer for Kanye West.

DAVID: Well, we were doing a crusade in Phoenix last year. It was Awaken 2020, the first stadium event… The only stadium event in 2020, I think, in America because of the shutdown. And I had a dream that Kanye was going to be in our event and our event was already packed out. We had all the speakers and I said, “Lord, please stop teasing me.” And one thing led to another, a week before the event, his manager calls me, “Hey, Kanye actually wants to come.” I’m like, “Oh my gosh, that’s great. But now I have to change the stage. And we have to raise money to get him to come,” with not just Kanye, 100-member choir. And he was there. There’s a little more to it than that, but it was again, supernatural. None of these things—

SID: You told me he was coming and I said, man of great fate, “Yeah. Uh-huh (affirmative).” But even beyond that, everything speeds up. Prophecy speeds up.

DAVID: Yes.

SID: Tell me about that.

DAVID: Oh, for instance, Ruth Heflin had prophesied to me, “David, you will do big events like civic centers, stadiums, in France and you’ll do it every three months like Kathryn Kuhlman.” I said, “That’s wonderful.” I wrote it down. Whatever, that’ll happen when it happens. She dies, so it’s a year and a half later. And the Lord said, “When are you going to walk in that prophecy?” I said, “I’m waiting for you to do it.” He goes, “No, it was ready for you when she prophesied it because in the glory, it’s a now realm.” So I said, “Okay.”

DAVID: So I went and found the guy who runs the building. I made an offer. How much does it cost? I found out that he had heard about me. He said, “I’ve been waiting to meet you for a year and a half. I’m a Baptist pastor. And this is my day job. And I had to repent because I missed your revival. Half of my church went to that six-month revival. And I asked the Lord, ‘Please give me a second chance.’ So don’t worry about the money or the price. We’ll work it out. Do it every three months, if you like.”

SID: You’ve spent so many years in the glory and there’s a whole generation that has never seen what is coming. And as a matter of fact, you, David, haven’t seen what is coming because you’ve never walked that path before. You’ve walked in the glory, but it’s a matter of level and it’s going deeper and deeper and deeper, but you can fast forward us. We want to be among the first walking in the glory, give us some keys.

DAVID: First key is to be very hungry and desperate. Not just open. “Oh, I’m open.” I was desperate. I had seen everything I could do in my own anointing and what God could do at that level and I realized I hit a wall. “If I just keep going, I’m not going to go to the next level.” I had to pull back and seek him in hunger, desperateness, intimacy on a whole new level. So there’s hunger, intimacy, waiting on him and just waiting till he shows up in that new glory.

SANDRA: Only what God said! And we sat there and we sat. Little Baptist girls. And we sat there and we sat there. And after about 5 hours momma’s little eyes just begin to blink a little bit. And we got real excited, you know? And I don’t know why but we decided to pick momma up. We drug her to the kitchen. I don’t know why. I don’t know why. Drug her to the kitchen. Put her in a chair sort of like this. When we sat her in the chair she slid out of course. She’d been in a coma! [Laughs]

PAT: Yeah! [Laughing]

SANDRA: And so anyway in this process of again we kept on talking, kept on talking, kept on talking. The same thing. Never changed anything. And then she finally came around and said well maybe God wants me. She got to waking up. Maybe God is trying to teach me something or maybe this is of the Lord cause so many people say those crazy things. I mean they just aren’t true, you know?

PAT: Right, right, right, right. I had a lady say to me a couple of days ago the Lord put this sickness on me. And where I was at ministering I looked at her and said you know if we treated our children like we say our Father treats us, we’d be arrested!

SANDRA: Absolutely!

PAT: And I looked at the lady and said no!

SANDRA: Right!

PAT: That’s from the enemy!

SANDRA: Totally! God’s in the healing business! He’s not in the sickness business! He’s in the healing business!

PAT: That’s right!

SANDRA: I went in the room. Got all of momma’s medicine. Put it in a trash can and came and dumped it all out on her! I said hey! You think God’s doing this to you? Why are you taking all this medicine trying to get well? So let’s let God have fun. Just go ahead and die! 

PAT: Wow!

SANDRA: You know? Well she woke up, needless to say, about that time and became alert. I mean it’s like going to a healing meeting. If you’re going to a healing meeting and you think God’s not in the healing business what you doing there? 

PAT: That’s right!

SANDRA: You ought not be trying to get healed if you think God put it on you!   

PAT: Mmm!

SANDRA: You want to keep whatever God gave you. You don’t want to throw it away! [Laughs]

PAT: Now see you’re from Georgia.

SANDRA: Yeah.

PAT: I feel like I’m sitting with family right now!  

SANDRA: [Laughing]

PAT: We’re about to get country!

SANDRA: Yeah!

PAT: Because I’m going to tell you this, Pastor Sandra. You’re speaking to people that are watching right now.

SANDRA: Yeah!

PAT: From all over the world!

SANDRA: Yeah!

PAT: And they may be sitting in an ICU unit with a baby.

SANDRA: Yeah. Absolutely. 

PAT: When we come back in just a moment I want you to tell them how to make healing simple! It’s ministering to me because we’ve walked through some sickness in our family.

SANDRA: Yeah. Yeah.

PAT: You know look if you’re not coming up against the devil it’s cause you flow with him!

SANDRA: Yeah! Absolutely!  

PAT: And sitting Christians hatch hypocrites!

PAT: So there’s a moment where you got to realize enough! 

SANDRA: Yeah.

PAT: Walk to your front door. Say, devil get out of my house!

SANDRA: Amen!

SANDRA: We got to get two against one wins! We’ve got to get your spirit and your soul lined up against the body. And once you get your spirit what? That’s renewing your mind with the Word of the Lord. That’s you doing that. You renew your mind. You get in agreement with God’s Word. The minute your soul agrees with the spirit which is already inside of your born again spirit man. The very minute that you begin to think the thoughts of God this body will respond! Two against one wins! Are you following what I’m saying?

AUDIENCE: Yes.

SANDRA: You want me to tell you why you’re sick now? Because you have gotten in agreement with your soul which says when you get to that age this happens to you. When you go here this happens to you. It’s everywhere around. You know the flu season is everywhere! Watch out, you’re going to get it! Hello? And the two of you have gotten in agreement and so you can’t hear the Holy Ghost back here saying woo! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! All the healing power is here. All the healing power is here. Are you listening to me?

AUDIENCE: Yes.

SANDRA: So all of God’s healing power for every person is here. Thank you. Every person here is already in you!

AUDIENCE: Amen!

SANDRA: Now that was some really good teaching! I hope you got that!

AUDIENCE: [Laughter and clapping] 

SANDRA: If I had taken more time to tell you that, I can tell you hundreds of people have been healed by understanding that process! Because you begin to understand that you don’t have to hunt God. God is inside of you! All of the healing power of God is inside of you! All you have to do is change the way you think! You’ve got to start agreeing with what God says about you! Not what your body says! Not what your body says! You cannot let your body rule your life! That’s what Mr. Gruver was saying. You cannot let your body under any circumstance tell you whether you’re healed or not!

AUDIENCE: Amen.

SANDRA: You know you don’t check your body out. Somebody prays for you. You don’t check it out. Well no. The tumor is still here. I guess I didn’t get it. That didn’t mean you didn’t get it.  It means that you all of a sudden are agreeing with the tumor.

AUDIENCE: Amen!

SANDRA: And disagreeing with God!

AUDIENCE: Amen!

SANDRA: Cause God says you got it! Once you get in agreement with God you can walk in great victory! Great victory! But you got to get in agreement with God! Now you make up your mind right now! Make up your mind and say, “I am going to get this now!”

AUDIENCE: I am going to get this now!

SANDRA: Look at the person beside you. Say “I don’t know about you.”

AUDIENCE: I don’t know about you.

SANDRA: Say “But I know about me!”

AUDIENCE: But I know about me!

SANDRA: And I’m getting it

AUDIENCE: And I’m getting it!

SANDRA: Now tell the person on the other side. Say “I don’t know about you.”

AUDIENCE: I don’t know about you.

SANDRA: But I know about me!

AUDIENCE: But I know about me!

SANDRA: And I’m getting it!

AUDIENCE: And I’m getting it!

SANDRA: NOW!

AUDIENCE: NOW!

SANDRA: I’m leaving here.

AUDIENCE: I’m leaving here.

SANDRA: Healed!

AUDIENCE: Healed!

SID: Would you proclaim that?

BRENDA: Yes. Let’s decree it together. Come on, ready for glory in the atmosphere. We decree that an atmosphere of God’s glory floods our home. We speak and we say that the presence of the Lord is everywhere. We call for the cloud of God to glory to invade every room and crevice of our house. We say that every person who enters in through our front door is affected by the glory of God, because of the atmosphere of glory.

We receive God’s goodness, even like Moses, who saw God’s goodness when he encountered the glory. We take our authority over any demonic interference that would squelch the atmosphere of glory. Come on, now. We prophesy that in the glory we are changed. We’re healed. We’re delivered. And we submit ourselves to whatever the Holy Spirit wants to accomplish. And we thank you, Lord, that your glory permeates us. It permeates our house. And like Moses, we ask you, Lord, let us see your glory. We want to experience it in and our home.

SID: [inaudible]

BRENDA: Hallelujah. Come on and take it. Just take it, in Jesus’ name.

SID: It’s hard to believe, you have so many of these decrees. A no fly zone, what does that mean?

BRENDA: This is a favorite. This goes back to the children of Israel in Egypt. If you go to Exodus eight in verse 22, God said a powerful word. Now, this was the fourth plague. It wasn’t until the fourth plague that God said this. We go from the blood, the frogs, the lice to the flies. And at the time of the flies, God said, “On that day, I’m going to send swarms of flies into the house of the Egyptians.” But in verse 22, it says, “But I will sever in that day my people in the land of Goshen,” and this is what I always declare in our house, we live in a Goshen, a spiritual Goshen, God says, “my people in the land of Goshen from those that are in Egypt and no form or swarm a fly shall come into the house of my people.”

And God said, that in verse 23, “And I will put a division between my people.” See, this is what’s happening right now. God is putting a division. He is separating His people for His good purpose. And that the people that are on the outside are looking in. This is why they’re going to get saved. We got to sow good on this side.

So the no fly zone is no fly was allowed to come into the house of God’s people. Flies represent demons. The Bible says that, “Satan is the lord of the flies, Beelzebub. He is the lord over the flies.” So what we say in our church, this is how we pray, this is how we prophesy, that your house is a no fly zone to every demon, every power of darkness. Nothing can fly in here, because I’m separated from that.

And let me just say this over you right here, just receive this, no evil force, no plot, no plan or work of the demonic spirits can access the premise of our house. We say, and I say over you, that the doors of our home are never entered by any entity that’s in opposition to God. We break the power.

Now, I got to say this right now, I’m, I’m decreeing this over you, we break the power of every spell, every incantation, every hex, every vex, from any witch, warlock or worker of divination in the name of Jesus. I prophesy, we prophesy that no plague, no pestilence, no accident, no tragedy, no calamity, no mischief, no mayhem is allowed to enter here, in Jesus’ name.

Audience: In Jesus’ name.

SHAWN: Well sometimes God will take me into the service and He’ll – I call it like a pre-game coaching. And He’ll give me like a pre-game coaching of what’s about to take place before the game. So He’ll just take me into the place and I’ll visualize and He’ll show me someone maybe on the third row that’s dealing with migraine headaches or this person’s daughter just left or this person is sick and when I get to the service 90% of the time that person will be in the audience and God will just let that time to open up for that person. And I mean so many testimonies of people being healed just by hearing the prophetic word from the Lord!

JAMIE: So you rehearsed it already?

SHAWN: Yes. Yes.

JAMIE: Is that in your mind?

SHAWN: Well I don’t want to say my mind. I would like to say my spirit.

JAMIE: Yeah.

SHAWN: Because you know sometimes you know you have other things going on in your mind and some things you just cannot keep or just hold so much in your mind. So sometimes I’ll write it down so that way I know for sure that I won’t forget because you know the mind tends – so you’ll forget things sometimes. But it’s in your spirit that you will hear it because you know during the course of the day during the course of a service you have so many things going on there’s no way that your mind can articulate that back to a person. So it must be embedded in your spirit man!

JAMIE: That’s incredible! You know I’m of the mindset take every thought captive.

SHAWN: Yes.

JAMIE: Even the good ones!

SHAWN: Even the good ones! Even the good ones!

JAMIE: That’s exciting! Listen! When we come back I’m going to ask Shawn about the imagination and that connection between the spirit and the prophetic and even miracles!

SHAWN: Yes, yes.

JAMIE: I feel there’s something here! You’re going to watch this next session and you’re going to want to see because I believe [music] there’s going to be some miracles!

SHAWN: Oh yes there is!

JAMIE: And I feel there’s going to be a connection between our imagination and what God wants to do right now!

SHAWN: Correct!

JAMIE: So we’ll see you!

JAMIE: Welcome back! I’m Jamie Galloway. [music ends] Shawn Morris is here and I’m excited because I think this next session we’re going to talk about miracles, the prophetic and your imagination! You touched on the imagination, Shawn –

SHAWN: Yes!

JAMIE: In our last segment.

SHAWN: Yes.

JAMIE: This is so fascinating to me because I feel this gets lost.

SHAWN: Yes!

JAMIE: For most people, they get lost. Where do we begin?

SHAWN: Well the Bible tells us, Jamie, that the Lord can do exceedingly abundantly above all we can ask or think but it’s according to the power that worketh in us. Now, most people don’t understand. It’s through the thinking realm that we receive the exceedingly abundantly things of God!  

JAMIE: Wow!

SHAWN: See our verbiage must line up with our thought process so once we get our mind on the things of the spirit we can begin to verbalize it and then bring it into manifestation. This is a form of the prophetic! It must start in the imagination realm. So once we understand the imagination realm we can begin to verbalize what we want to see come to manifestation.