Sid Roth

Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah; I’m speaking to him at his home in Fort Worth, Texas; Steve Solomon.  Steve is another Jewish man that can’t keep quiet about Yeshua.  Steve, you’re a Pastor of a church and an amazing phenomenon started happening in the year 2005 in your church.  Oil in the sanctuary, as a matter of fact CBS came out to do an excerpt this.  Tell the circumstances.

Steve:  It was just before July 4^th we had some extended meetings started Sid, you know Liberty meetings, Freedom in the Spirit meetings that kind of thing and with Independence Day.  And a few days before July 4^th my secretary called me at the house.  On Tuesdays we have feed the multitudes where we give away free groceries to the hundreds of families in the area every Tuesday.  So intercessors would pray in the sanctuary before that food ministry.  Well, they were praying in the sanctuary and they wanted to pray for me the Pastor so they were looking for some oil.  So one lady said to other lady, “Find some oil.”  So they were looking for like a bottle of oil in the church that we have.  And the other lady yelled out, “I found some oil.”  And on the columns of the church the decorative columns in the pillars there was oil starting to seep out of the columns.  And the more they looked the more oil they found, it was like on the banisters, it was like on the balcony, it was a Plexiglas eighteen inch like decorative piece on the top of the …

Sid:  “Is there any natural explanation?”

Steve:  No, no.  They called me and they said, “Pastor Steve there is oil in the sanctuary.”  And my first thought was that something had broke and was linking oil, and I thought “Oh great something else to fix.”  And then they said, “No, no, no it’s supernaturally appearing, it’s sweet, it’s clear and it’s appearing all over the church.”  So we went to the church and Sid, it was everywhere in the sanctuary, on my pulpit, just on the base of Star of David, the Israeli flag, it was there.  I mean it was just like appearing, and so we started these meetings we had this extended meetings.  And then what happened is then we prayed for people people would get oil on their hands or else oil on their feet.  And oil would drip on them from out of nowhere miracles took place.  We always had a healing ministry and miracle ministry, but it was acceleration.  A guy walked in one night blind in one eye and could hardly walk and he was instantly healed and his knees were instantly healed.  Another kid jumped off a roof trying to jump into a swimming pool and broke both of his feet and the Lord healed his feet and there was oil on his feet and he got healed.  People healed from cancer, people started taking pictures of the oil, this is how CBS’s the local affiliate got involved and it got broadcast to different stations across the country.  People stated taking pictures of the oil and when we took pictures of it Sid you would see these white balls of light in the pictures.

Sid:  We call them orbs.

Steve:  Yeah, orbs.

Sid:  Which are to me are angels.

Steve:  And the most phenomenal thing happened.  On July 17, 2005; it was a Sunday morning service; just after praise and worship.  And I’ll tell you the Lord comes down when we worship Him, He inhabits the praises of His people and it’s phenomenal what happens and still happens.  And this was when the song that came about in a minute I’ll tell you about.  But on Sunday morning July 17^th just after praise and worship we blew a power transformer outside the Church and the power went out.  For the next two hours the Church stayed cool like a refrigerator, we only had one light that they brought in with an extension cord.  But a man had a video camera taping the service.  And the little video camera, as I’m praying for people you can see these orbs of light start moving like a strobe light show all throughout the Church, it’s phenomenal.

Sid:  On the video itself?

Steve:  On the video, they’re moving.

Sid:  Well, you know it’s kind of all these normal things assuming you regard the New Testament as normal.  All these normal things are going on in your Church tell me, because I’m fascinated by this CD that a member of your congregation sent me, Riverwalk DNA.  We’re going to play an excerpt called, “Say Yes.”  Tell me about that song.

Steve:  This song was written by one of the members of the church during this time, this summer when the oil was being poured out.  And it says “Father, Son and Holy Spirit send Your angels, pour Your oil.”  In other words, when God sends something, when God shows up and He showed up in a tremendous way I believe He was consecrating us separating us anointing us for a specific task as a Church Body for the future.  And the inspiration came for this song and when people hear it, “Father, Son and Holy Spirit send Your angel, pour Your oil upon us.”  It has phenomenal results and countless people Sid had been touched by worshipping Him during this song.

Sid:  Okay, why don’t you consider yourself challenged?  Why don’t you pull off to the side of the road, if you’re driving or take what Steve said seriously?  What would happen if everyone listening to us right now Steve were to take the time, just this next minute or so to worship God?  Do it right now, “Say Yes” excerpt from “Riverwalk.”

“Say Yes” excerpt from “Riverwalk.”

Sid:  That’s one of my favorite songs, now I can’t say that, there are so many of my favorite songs on this Riverwalk DNA.  Steve there is a, just a happiness is the best way I can describe it a supernatural joy on some of this music, some of it so outrageous.    I had a prayer meeting and no one was participating so I said, “Okay, I’m going to get you in the mood” and I prayed an excerpt from the song that we played on the first day and that really; everyone was tapping their feet.  How do you get such joy in this music?

Steve:  You know, “In the presence of the Lord there’s fullness of joy and pleasures forevermore.”  And God wants us, I remember when starting the Church, the Lord said, “Get the music in their face.”  I said, “Lord we’re not going to do without great music, just anointed music.”  People come in Sid, and I’m sensing right now, since playing this song, “Say Yes” and us talking about it, everybody has problems, everybody has situations.  And the Bible says in Isaiah 61 “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me because the Lord has anointed me to preach good tidings, good news unto the meek.”  And going down to verse 3 “To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning; the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness.”  Sid, when people come into the church one of the biggest testimonies I love to have them say, “Oh Pastor Steve, your teaching, your preaching, you ministry set me free is you’re so wonderful.”  But most of the people say, “When I walked in, something hit me.”  And I believe that same thing which is the Spirit of God.  Because listen, if we worship Him, listen “If we lift Him up He’ll draw all men unto Himself.”  And I believe Sid as you and I are talking, I sense a tangible anointing for the oil of joy to set people free.  David said, “I shall be anointed with fresh oil.”  And I just want to pray right now in Jesus name, there are people that are bound with heaviness, you’ve just gone through a divorce, you’ve buried a love one, you’ve lost a job, you didn’t get what you thought you were going to get when you prayed for it, something thing, it didn’t turn out your way.  But “We know that all things work together for good to them that love God who are the called the elect according to His purpose,” God’s purpose and His pleasure.  “Father, we pray right now in the name of Jesus the oil of joy, that deliverance, I sense people being healed right now, people being encouraged right now, people who wanted to take their own life.”  In the name of the Lord Jesus, “You shall live and not die.”  And “I thank you Father for healing cancers, for setting people free from all manner of incurable situations, right now in Jesus name as Sid and I are worshipping You.”  Brother, Jesus is so wonderful and when we lift Him up and that’s the testimony that we hear all the time, that when people walk in the Church during Praise and Worship, first time visitors, it hits them in the face.  And all I want is Jesus, all I really want is Him and to say yes to Him Sid and that’s all we need, the Son of God.  Either He’s sufficient for us or He’s not, either He is my portion or inheritance or He’s not.  Either He’s all that I need, the Messiah and Son of God or He isn’t Sid, and that’s where I believe God is bringing His precious chosen people, Jew and Gentile.  He’s taken everything, removing every earthly crutch so that He alone is sufficient for everything in our life.

Sid:  Why do you call your CD “Riverwalk DNA?”

Steve:  Well, DNA is the code of life to every human being, and we are praying about a name and this artist, you see the cover of this CD?

Sid Roth:  Yeah, it’s beautiful.

Steve:  This guy who’s a prophetic artist he just happened to be in town and heard about our church, and he wanted to come by.  And he drew this prophetically during the worship service during the Praise and Worship, he drew this ladder, one of the songs is “Jacobs Ladder” I’m in Jacob’s dream scene seeing heaven’s gate, let me climb all night on my ladder of faith.  Alright, he draw’s this ladder and it looks like DNA and it looks like DNA to me.  And he said it was DNA and I knew right away when the code of our spiritual life is the Son of God; the ladder, Jacob’s ladder, the Messiah.

Sid:  We want everyone everywhere to be breathing in the oxygen of heaven.  And you know how you breathe in the oxygen of heaven?  By worshiping God, I’m reminded of a businessman that I knew many years ago.  He had five mega million dollar businesses and he would get up every morning and he would worship God.  He would tell God how much he loved him, how grateful he was that he knew Him.  He would just worship every aspect of God, and the more he worshipped the more he could breathe in the oxygen of heaven and the more that he could breathe in the oxygen of heaven the more Godly ideas he had to be a successful business man to acquire wealth for the Kingdom’s sake.  Now my guest Grace Williams has been a guest several times on the Messianic Vision and I usually don’t interview someone again, but she did it again.  She came out with CD’s and you know Grace it talks in scripture that we’re to go from glory to glory and that’s what’s going on.

Grace:  Yes.

Sid:  Your not I believe if people are standing still they’re going backwards and they don’t even know it.

Grace:  Yes, yes, yes amen.  Sid we’re called to go from glory to glory you know in heaven’s realm that’s, that’s where we should be living and just in that constant flow of acceleration in God’s glory where there’s just incredible movement and momentum in the Spirit.  And I really feel like that’s the season that we are in right now in that just as this new CD is even called “Overflow.”  We are just entering into a season of the overflow of His presence, of His glory, of His abundance and that just beautiful place, that beautiful place of overflow where it’s just overflowing with God’s goodness and joy.  And everything that He has we are entering into that season where we are going to be able to access that.

Sid:  Now you, one of your songs which I love, I have a problem Mishpochah normally there are five great songs and then the others are okay.  But my problem is we love all of the songs on this CD.  Now one that we are not going to play it’s called “River” and you talk about the need for the river, the need for the water because we are literally dehydrated and we don’t know it.  You know when you, if you don’t drink enough water by the time you’re thirsty you’re already dehydrated it’s too late.

Grace:  That’s right, that’s right that’s why it’s so important that we keep hydrated like you said Sid, we keep hydrated in the Spirit and in that presence of worship.  And the Lord actually spoke to me about that song, “The River” and said “That it would be like spiritual CPR to people.  It would literally bring people back to life; it would bring the hopeless back to life; it would just bring people out of desert places.  You know when you think of the desert and it’s a dry, just really, really dry and desolate place that this song was just going to bring water to the desert places and people would receive the refreshing of His Spirit and be hydrated by the living waters.  Because one of my favorite scriptures it says, “When we drink from that fountain that we will never thirst again,” when Jesus said that.  And that is just so incredible that these waters have sustaining life in them, you know it’s His sustained, it’s His presence that sustains us.  And just exactly like you said, you know our physical body when we get to that point of dehydration it’s already too late and we can’t even go for more than three days without water in our physical body.  That’s not very long, so how much more, you know do we need the refreshing, renewing presence of the Holy Spirit to just wash over us and refresh us, to fill us to overflowing.

Sid:  And speaking of overflow, that’s the name of one of two CD’s we’re featuring this week.  One is called “Overflow,” the other is called “Heaven’s Rain.  And I have to tell you about the first song that I heard on your CD that caused me to realize that this is better than what she did before.  We’ve got to get her back it was called, “Open up the Gates.”  Because I’ve had prophetic words about ancient doors in Israel that are about ready to open up.  But what did God show you and it’s from a scripture for you to write, “Open up the Gates?”

Grace:  Well, kind of taken from Psalms 24 you know it talks about “Oh lift up your heads oh ye gates be lifted up you everlasting doors, let the King of Glory come in.”  And I really felt like the song was just a prophetic declaration that was releasing the glory flood gates to open us and to say. “Yes come on in King of Glory, cover the earth.”  You know that scripture that says, “May His Glory cover the earth like the waters cover the sea.”  And you know those gates are a powerful, powerful visual image that I really, I really see and there were times when I was working on this song and I would be in prayer and intercession and the Lord showed me these ancient, ancient gates and it was almost like through our prayers and our intercession and our worship we were standing at these gates and we contending and almost like praying and sometimes there’s a warfare to breakthrough to open up these gates.  But through God’s power and glory and through our worshipping and our decreeing, open up, open, open up gates that these gates are opening up and King of Glory is coming in.  And there’s such a mighty, mighty flow, a mighty, mighty flow.  I’m just feeling even right now, right now that the Lord’s just saying that these places that have been locked, these places that have been locked up that God said that He’s given us keys.  Just as the key of David is through worshipping, He’s given us keys to open up these gates and let the King of Glory come in and release everything that God’s promised to us.  Everything, every promise, every promise God says is going to be given to us in the name of Jesus.

Sid:  Now you had a supernatural sign when you were doing, when you were ministering this song.  First of all, a woman who had a lump in her breast, she got healed.  But then as you were leaving the church you saw something on the double doors as they opened, explain.

Grace:  Yes it was, it was an amazing evening, actually it’s where this song was first birth like prophetically birthed in the Spirit.  And I basically just kept seeing that one part, open up, open up, open up the gates and that’s how this song, the first part of it came.  And I was ministering that and that lady got healed and then we were leaving the building and we went out the doors and there was like this white smoke, it’s like this glory cloud that was swishing around at the doors and it was like everybody stopped and looked.  And it was like oh my goodness that was like the glory of the Lord and nobody could move and we just kind of started just like praying and worshipping again and thanking God.  It was like everybody knew there was like something like really, really powerful that was happening you know.  It was like it was a visible sign of like yes this conformation of the gates opening up and the glory of the Lord filling filling the Temple.

Sid Roth:  I’m going to believe that the gates are going to open up for those that are listening right now, Grace minister “Open up the Gates.”

Grace worship excerpt: “Open up the Gates.”

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Gary Kah. And I am so fascinated with the information that Gary has put together. He has spent a lifetime putting this together, because if you don’t understand the forerunner of the Antichrist system, then for sure you won’t understand the Antichrist. And Gary, I find it very interesting that Tony Blair, President Barak Obama and the Pope had the same talking points within days of each other. Explain that.

GARY: Yes. A couple of summers ago, all three of those individuals began applying a lot of pressure on Israel. And there is an agenda behind this. Ultimately where it is going is toward the internationalization of Jerusalem, and also I believe making Jerusalem the interfaith capitol of the world.

SID: Why is that important?

GARY: Again, if you’re going to have global government, you’ve got be able to bring the religions together somehow and they see in their minds that Jerusalem is the place to do this because it’s where Christianity and Judaism have their roots. Islam also has a stronghold there and so trying to make this happen in Jerusalem is important to them. Tony Blair has gone so far as to establish the Tony Blair Faith Foundation, which is actually an interfaith foundation. In his own words he has come out and stated that he is devoting the rest of his life to unifying the world’s religions.

SID: Okay. You exposed the names of prominent Christians that are deeply involved in this. I don’t understand how a real Christian could ever be deeply involved in this.

GARY: I don’t either. I believe that they rationalize and justify it in the name of world peace. But I am aware of the fact that on Tony Blair’s board of directors there is a very prominent evangelical Christian whose name everyone would recognize, and also an Islamic cleric and people of other religions. And again, if it simply has to do with reaching out to people of other faiths with the truth of Jesus, that’s one thing. But to cooperate in building something that will eventually unify the world’s religions, to me, that is a huge deception and we should not be promoting that.

SID: Okay. According to reading the Bible on a literal basis, which I do, a temple is going to be rebuilt. Gary, you have some fascinating information about this. Tell me.

GARY: Well again, in order to rebuild that temple, people have wondered over the years, how in the world is this every going to happen, considering on the contention on the Temple Mount. And we don’t know for sure how it’s going to happen, but there are some signs of how it could happen. The leading Muslim writer in the world right now, a man who has over 65 million copies of his books in print, his name is Adnan Oktar, he writes under the pen name Harun Yahya, is himself calling for the rebuilding of the temple. But he calls it majid or mosque, or a palace. And he believes this would be a great thing where people from around the world of different religions could come together and worship there.

SID: But Jewish people would never accept something like that.

GARY: Well you would think so. But there’s three leaders from the newly reestablished Jewish Sanhedrin have actually met with Adnan Oktar in Turkey. And after doing so, they posted the following statement on their website, and this is an excerpt of that statement. They say, “Out of the sense of collective responsibility for world peace and for all humanity, we have found it timely to call to the world and exclaim that there is a way out for all peoples. It is etched in a call to all humanity. We are all the sons of one Father, the descendants of Adam, and all humanity is but a single family. Peace among nations will be achieved through building the House of God where all peoples will serve as foreseen by King Solomon in his prayers at the dedication of the first Holy Temple.” Now get this. “Together each according to his or her ability, we shall work towards the building of the House of Prayer for all nations on the Temple Mount in peace and mutual understanding.” So these are some of the top Jewish people in the Sanhedrin endorsing the same idea that Adnan Oktar is putting forth, after having met with him.

SID: And you talk about the excavations under, in Jerusalem, the Shrine of Omar. Tell me about that.

GARY: Well very quickly, some Israeli journalists were secretly filming underneath the Shrine of Omar, and the tunnel that they were in, they discovered in an area off to the side some early documents from Jewish priests from the first century, apparently that were put there to safeguard them and protect them from the Roman invasion in 70 A.D. And these documents talk about the early church, what the church believed, how it functioned, it’s practices. And it makes it very clear that the early church did not adhere to replacement theology. In other words, they believed that God was still going to work mightily through the Jewish people and Israel in the years to come, especially in the last days.

SID ROTH: It’s very sad that we don’t know what the first Christians knew. For starters, they were all Jews. Now you know they weren’t involved in replacement theology, which basically, half the Christians in the world say that the Christian has replaced God’s plan for the Jew in Israel. And of course, God says, I change not. Boy, imagine the bombshell when this information is revealed. You can see things are really speeding up rapidly. The Bible says, “I’d rather you be hot or cold. If you’re lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth.” That’s what Jesus says. Are you lukewarm or are you hot? If you’re neutral, you’re deceived. If you’re just a seeker-sensitive Christian, you’re deceived. You must be hot or cold. Either serve him with all of your heart or don’t stand up as a Christian. The good news is you don’t have to look back. You can have a new beginning right now, repent of your sins and tell Jesus, say it out loud. I want to be red hot for you, Lord Jesus. I want you to be my Lord. I ask for forgiveness of sin. I repent. Live inside of me, Jesus.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Hank Kunneman. And Hank, you’re pretty happy and chipper now. But in the early ’90s, things weren’t going too well for you, were they?

HANK: No. I was a lot younger then. I had just tried to start my ministry and I was recently married. I have been married 22 years to a wonderful wife. I was praying, Sid, and I felt like God wasn’t answering my prayers. All of a sudden, something amazing happened, I’d like to tell you. I was praying and I thought I saw something out of the right side of my shoulder move.

SID: That’s happened to me. I’ll bet that’s happened to you sometime. You’re in a room alone and all of a sudden…nah, I didn’t see it. But what was it?

HANK: Well I’ll tell you. I thought I saw it and I looked over, and I thought, boy, there’s something there. So I looked again and I couldn’t believe what I saw. And I didn’t have pizza, so I knew it wasn’t a pizza dream. I looked over on the right side of my shoulder and there was an angel standing right next to me. And I looked and he looked at me. I looked at him. And of course, I was afraid. So I thought, well I better pray, because I didn’t know what else to do. So I went over by my prayer chair.

SID: When all else fails, pray.

HANK: And I stood in front of my prayer chair. I couldn’t believe that this angel stood right next to me. And I thought, I should do the spiritual thing, you know, fold my hands. And so I folded my hands. I looked to my right. The angel was folding his hands. I thought, okay, this is interesting. So I began to pray. And he had the same form that I had. I knelt down. I thought, well the spiritual thing then, is not just to fold your hands, but to kneel. So I knelt down, too. The angel knelt down next to me on my right. I looked over at him, he looked over at me. I could hardly believe it. I said, Lord, this is so crazy. I started praying and worshiping the Lord. He started worshiping the Lord. But here’s what’s amazing. All of a sudden, I began to pray about the nations and about my ministry, and as soon as I did that, Sid, something happened. All of a sudden, this angel shot out of my room! I mean, just with such force and such power right when I was praying for the nations. You know 20-some years later…

SID: So you could see…

HANK:  Yeah.

SID: …and you could see that when you’re praying, whether you can see that angel next to you or not, when you’re praying I want you to capture this vision, the angel shoots out to cause your words to come to pass. That’s what you learned from that. That’s what I’ve learned.

HANK: Angels are waiting for us. But you know what’s amazing? After this happened, two weeks later, my wife Brenda and I are in this auditorium and Benny Hinn is conducting a service. And he points out, you know how Benny does, “You right back in the back.”

SID: Were there a lot of people?

HANK: Yeah, it was a pretty good size. It wasn’t as big as the huge auditoriums. But this was back in 1990. It was a pretty good size room. Probably not as big as obviously as the main convention centers, but big enough to be lost in the crowd; called me out and my wife, and began to prophecy to us the very things now, listen to this, that I was speaking in my room that nobody was listening to but God. Benny began to prophecy to my wife and I about the things, Sid, that we are walking in today. Now here’s the thing. Right after he prophesied, the angel shot out of my room, the opposite happened in my life.

SID: What happened to your job?

HANK: Well, I got fired.

SID: You got fired!

HANK: And it looked like I was never going to amount to anything. It looked like I wasn’t going to even be in the ministry.

SID: By the way, tell everyone why you got fired. I think this is important.

HANK: Well I got fired because I was working for a particular corporation and they wanted to go out and get drunk, and they wanted to go to a strip club, and I said, no I’m not going to do this. They said, well you don’t have to go in, you’re just the designated driver. I said, “No, I will not do this.” So the boss fired me for insubordination. I don’t know what is insubordinate about moral standard. But the powerful thing is, after I got fired, that night I prayed over all of their beds, and they came back drunk and everything. And here’s the funny thing, Sid. Sometimes we don’t think our prayers are working. I tell you, the power of God went into those beds. They couldn’t even sleep in their beds. They had to lay out on the floor and they were so miserable, and they kept saying, “What did you do to my bed?” And I thought, oh boy, because I kept my heart right, I forgave them and I kept praying. See, that’s the thing about breakthrough.

SID: That’s the key to breakthrough.

HANK: You have to be determined to stay with it. Even the lineage that led up to the Messiah was determined spirit that you see in people, you know, Jacob wrestling for the blessing. There’s that determined spirit.

SID: Okay, but here’s the thing that you don’t know. Here he has an angel next to him. The angel darts off to answer this prayer. Then he and his wife are in a meeting and Benny Hinn doesn’t even know them, he calls them out, he prophesies what’s been going on in his bedroom. I mean, everything wonderful is going to happen. And then he loses his job. The bottom falls out. And so much…How much time went by until you had your breakthrough?

HANK: Well it was probably, the Lord spoke a phrase to me. He said, “For the next seven years,” He said, “you’ll be like Joseph,” He said, “because I want to teach you character to handle the anointing and the responsibility of what I’m going to give you.” But you know one of the things that happened, Sid, I got to tell you this story. When I got fired, my wife and I, the only thing we knew to do was just go back to the Lord and pray. So we were praying one day and my wife’s sister was living with us at the time. We began to pray, worship the Lord. My little boy, who is now 17, was two years old. We were worshiping the Lord and we started smelling this smell of fire. And we thought, what is this? We’re worshiping the Lord and…

SID: All you need is a fire. You’re praying, you’re trying,

HANK:  We were already in the fire!

SID: …you’re doing everything you know to do, and all of a sudden, smoke! Where there’s smoke…

HANK: Yes. And so we thought, what is this. We rushed outside. I couldn’t believe my eyes. We looked up above my house. There was a cloud of smoke. It wasn’t a natural smoke because there was no fire. But it was visible in the natural realm that we were in. And even the neighbor, who was a sheriff, came out, couldn’t believe it either. Didn’t know what it was. But it was the Glory of God. And it was right after that time that a businessman called me out of the blue, after I got fired this happens. And he says, “Hank and Brenda,” he said, “you are called to the nations to preach my word and God has his Word in your mouth.” And the Lord to me, “For the next year, year and a half, I am to support you…full medical benefits, and I am to support you a full salary…”

SID: What did you have to do for this?

HANK: Just pray and read the scriptures.

SID: You didn’t have to go Heaven. He had Heaven on Earth. But it took seven years for his breakthrough.

HANK: Before the breakthrough.

SID ROTH: Here’s what I believe and this is what Hank believes. We are in the decade of the breakthrough right now. What that means is, it’s not going to take seven years. But there are certain keys and there is an anointing that I believe God has personally called Hank to release upon you so that you can have your breakthrough. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.