Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have no limits; it’s time to take the limits off of God.  It’s time to proclaim that “It’s Not Over.” I have Ricardo Sanchez on the telephone and we’re talking about his amazing CD “It’s Not Over.”  But from a life experience he’s literally, God has giving him a ministry because everyone is dealing with one or more serious problems in their life.  And some feel they’re hopeless, but when people go to his concerts or hear his teaching supernatural hope is infused and things turn around.  Well how would you like a report your 9 year old son was in a diving accident in the swimming pool, and he has less than 1% to recover, his prognosis is to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair; maybe a breathing tube, a breathing machine, the tube coming out of his neck.  So you get this report, you worship God, your oblivious to the people, did you feel a breakthrough at that time or you don’t know what you felt?

Ricardo:  Sid I wish I could say that on the airplane when I got the texts from my wife and the phone call that I believed in faith the whole time and that the plane got saved.  That just wasn’t my ending, that wasn’t, or my beginning I should say.  To be quite honest with you I responded quite naturally I was intimidated, I don’t like using the word fear because I have God “Whom shall I fear.”  So the word intimidated comes to mind, I felt like I was about to enter into this battle and I was very nervous and I was in the airplane and I just remember tapping into those old hymns “Amazing Grace,” “Oh the Blood of Jesus,” “Something About that Name.”  And that seemed to be the sliver of hope that I needed to allow the anointing of God, the Balm of Gilead to begin to flow and to begin to heal those areas.  Not just in my life but of my sons, my blood line, those that are carrying on my name and it was through that worship experience that the presence of God began to flow through.  And the song “It’s Not Over” again began to bubble up in my spirit and that’s where I felt it was in that moment of falling on my face in the terminal and crying out to God that the presence of God began to saturate my situation, begin to saturate.  I believe even though I was in Jacksonville I believe that at that very time God began to move in Atlanta, Georgia in my sons body, in the doctors hands, in the ex-rays in the prognosis.  I begin I believe Spirit of God begin to flow in our entire circumstance.

Sid: Now tell me what the firefighter said that loaded your son in the helicopter.

Ricardo: Hmm, Sid this firefighter who had been a firefighter for over 9 years he said “In my 9 years of experience I’ve never seen anybody whether it’s an adult or a young person sustain this kind of injury and ever survive.  So prepare your heart for the worse.

Sid: So although you couldn’t see anything with your eyes I believe that there was a major breakthrough that occurred when you were not ashamed of God, you didn’t care what man thought and you, right in the middle of the airport, you start worshiping your God with every fiber of your being.

Ricardo: Yeah.

Sid: I believe things started changing.

Ricardo: Sid, that’s a great way to describe it because that’s exactly what it was every fiber of my being; I was unashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ I needed God to move.  In those moments I heard it said “Adversity doesn’t build character but it reveals it.”  And Jesus said “What’s in a man comes out of man,” what they’re made of your character will be speak in those moments of desperation. For me when we heard that paramedic say that, Jeanette had told me this I had nothing left Sid it had emptied the tank, but in the midst of that I hit the floor and begin to worship God and just begin to cry out to Him and begin to ask for His Healing power to touch my son.

Sid: Tell me about the song we’re going to play right now “I’m Not Ashamed?”

Ricardo:  Well, it was kind of one of those moments, I has in Phoenix, Arizona at a concert my record label at the time had gotten us phenomenal seats to sit in about the tenth row.  As the artist is playing and singing there’s a young woman probably 23-24 years old dancing lifting her hands in the air and as a Pentecostal Worship Leader who believes in the Full Gospel I could obviously see she was speaking in tongues, lifting her hands praying in the Spirit.  Well there was a couple behind her that were mocking her, making fun of the way that she worshiped laughing mimicking her, mimicking her in mockery.  And what grabbed my heart as a Worship Leader is I saw this daughter of the woman that was worshiping just so enamored it was almost like her mother was teaching her how to worship.  And I thought “What an attack upon this young girl and her mother in a beautiful moment.”  And right when I was about to say something to this group of people who are making fun of that…you know my father’s a Retired Command Sargent Major in the United States Army and so right when my father’s voice was about to out of me to correct these people my wife nudged me, and the Spirit of God nudged my spirit at the exact same time God spoke to me.  And sometimes my wife and the Spirit of God are the exact same person to be quite honest.  But it was in that moment that God said “These people have no idea of what’s like to be fully dependent upon me for rent, for food, for sustaining life.  This woman is unashamed and could careless who’s watching her worship me.  And I remember going home that evening picking up my guitar and writing “I gonna Dance for You like nobody’s watching me.”

Sid: “I Am Not Ashamed” by Ricardo Sanchez.

Worship excerpt “I Am Not Ashamed”

Sid: Because Ricardo Sanchez was not ashamed God began to move from a 1% chance of survival his son.  I mean he had these pictures of his son being in a wheelchair his whole life, his son having a breathing tube coming out of his neck, a breathing machine.  But he had a breakthrough and I believe that the breakthrough that God has for you is…did you feel the anointing, the presence as Ricardo preaches and teaches about this.  And the presence of God on his music, that’s an anointing and that anointing will remove the limits God has.  I don’t care what problem you have, but as you listen to his CD “It’s Not Over,” and this book, and his teaching CD the anointing is going to cause the same breakthrough that occurred for Ricardo’s son that you’re about ready to hear in your life.  I don’t care whether it’s marriage, I don’t care whether it’s finances, I don’t care whether it’s health, I don’t care whether it’s a flat spirit of depression; I tell you it’s not over.”

Sid: My guest is another Jewish woman that is red hot for the Messiah. She’s been red for God most of her life. She was raised in an observant Jewish home in New York City. Sharon Allen does that mean you followed the festivals, you kept Shabbat, you kept kosher, what was your family life like?

Sharon: Well we kept the commandments from the Torah, Biblical commandments, but we also kept the rabbinical commandments. Those were the commandments that the rabbis added to the original 613 positive and negative commandments, to try and protect the original commandments. So they added rabbinical commandments that we followed.

Sid: Now what did Judaism mean to you growing up?

Sharon: Well for me it meant following God’s ways, and by following God’s ways we were showing our love and devotion to God. So we followed His commandments and for me Judaism was the truth. It was the only way to relate to the one true God.

Sid: Okay, you did what a nice Jewish girl should do; you married a nice Jewish man; you had a child and it did not work out too well. What happened?

Sharon: That’s right, we were married in the Orthodox tradition. Then a few years later we did get a divorce, we had to get a Jewish divorce which is called a Get. Then this Get, this Jewish divorce then enables the couple to remarry other Orthodox Jewish people, once again in an Orthodox ceremony.

Sid: So tell me you get your divorce, you decide to change locations, and you went as far west as you could go. You went to California; you got involved in the real estate business; I mean real estate is booming today, how was it back then?

Sharon: Well it was wonderful. It was in the 1970’s and everybody seemed to be getting their real estate license because there was this huge real estate boom happening. So I got my real estate license and we had moved to the Orange County area. I had brought my parents out to be with me. At the time my real estate license was in a company that was owned by a gentleman by the name of Ron Allen, who would later become my husband. When I first met Ron we got to know each other. Of course, everybody who meets me knows that I’m Jewish. Of course at the time everyone knew my Jewish ways, and my daughter and I were involved in a synagogue because when you’re an Orthodox Jewish person your life revolves around the synagogue. The only thing that my husband, he wasn’t my husband at the time, but when I first met Ron, the only thing Ron had ever told me was that he was a protestant. He never mentioned church; he never mentioned Christianity; he never mentioned the name Jesus if had I would have run in the other direction. All he ever said was that he was a protestant. Actually business was his religion at the time. He was a very successful businessman. So we started dating, and he became more and more involved in our Jewish ways. In fact, every time he would see my parents my mother would say, “Oh he’s so haymishe,” which means “He’s so comfortable to be with.” Little by little Ron became involved with our family, and with the synagogue.

Sid: So you eventually got married and you became, as you just said with the synagogue. What kind of synagogue was it?

Sharon: We were involved with Chabad of Irvine Jewish Center, Lubavitch; Orthodox.

Sid: For those that don’t know about the Lubavitch, or Chabad, tell us a little about it.

Sharon: Chabad Synagogues observe the Torah very strictly, and rabbinical law very strictly. Even those who are not raised in such a strict manner somehow or other, many of the families who maybe are not so familiar with Orthodox ways they want to join a Chabad Synagogue because it’s a way that they feel comfortable. Maybe they’re not observing all the Yiddish kite, which are Jewish lies, but by being in an Orthodox Synagogue they feel like they’re linking up to the One true God. That is why in the Chabad of today we have a modern Chabad attitude. Where we’re very open to all Jewish families in the community.

Sid: So Ron, your husband, is haymishe, but he’s not Jewish. So obviously you make plans for his conversion. How did that go?

Sharon: Well you know it was interesting because when I married Ron he actually adopted Alisa, my daughter Alisa. In the adoption papers it actually stated that he would raise Alisa Jewish. So we are living Jewish life, and it did become very obvious to everyone including Ron, that he’s ready what is called to have a Kosher conversion, which is considered an Orthodox conversion. So at this particular time it was this particular morning, and I just in a very nonchalant voice said “Well you know Ron there are basically 3 ceremonies that you’ll be doing to actually have this Kosher conversion, Orthodox conversion.” We wanted and Orthodox conversion as opposed to Reformed or Conservative conversion because when it’s an Orthodox conversion it’s excepted in all the countries and it’s especially accepted in Israel. So at the time we felt that the Kosher conversion, the Orthodox conversion, is the only way to go. So the first ceremony when a person wants to be converted to Judaism is a mikvah. They are water immersed into a mikvah, which is similar to a baptism, but the water immersion into a mikvah is for purification and identification with the Jewish people, and of course Ron was fine with that. Then the second ceremony, this is for a man who wants to be converted to Judaism. The second ceremony would be circumcision. In the case of my husband was already circumcised as a baby, and for all men who want to have an Orthodox conversion who have already been circumcised, like my husband when they were babies. What the rabbis do is they just draw a little bit of blood, and it’s symbolic. Ron was fine with that because it’s Biblical. Then the next ceremony that I explained to Ron would be that he would appear before a Bet Din, a council of rabbis, a rabbinical court. He would appear before this Bet Din, and he would renounce whatever he believed in before. Now I am not sure if this is necessary for a Reformed conversion, or a Conservative conversion, but it is very important to do this for an Orthodox conversion. In a very matter of fact way I said to my husband “Well I guess because you know you said you were Protestant I guess you’ll renounce That Man.” Because Orthodox people, we don’t say the name of Jesus, we say “That Man.” So I said to Ron, “I guess you’ll renounce That Man.” He looked at me and he said “I don’t think I can do that.” I was shocked! I said “What do you mean you can’t do that?!” I mean it was a horror for me because here we are we’re living a Jewish life, our daughter is going to Hebrew Academy. I mean there are Jewish fathers who don’t send their children to Yeshiva. Our daughter is going to Yeshiva; our home is used for Jewish outreach. In other words, when the synagogue wanted to bring in the Jewish families from the community who may not be involved in a synagogue, we would open our home. We would have different activities. One was like a flower arranging show, and we had it for the ladies. I was driving the…

Sid: Sharon, if he is not going to renounce as you say “That Man,” as I’ll say “Jesus,” so what’s going to happen with this conversion he can’t convert?

Sharon: Well I was in shock! I ran into Alisa’s room; I said “You’re not going to believe this your father says he can’t renounce ‘That Man.’” Then in a moment I had a thought I’ll just go and read my Jewish Bible. I figured it wouldn’t take long, I’d begin to read page 1, I’d read a couple…

Sid: I’ll tell you what hold that thought.

Sid: My guest Dave Brennan and he has revelation from the Book of Zechariah that I’ve never heard people talk about. Zechariah talks about a quartet of four nations that work in tremendous unity. He wrote two books on this subject “The Israel Omen” and “The Israel Omen II.” And in his first book you sound like a fairly cautious guy Dave but you took a leap of faith and you made some predictions based on what you’ve seen happen in the past if reference to coming against Israel.  And you know it’s amazing what you said there that came true; tell us another one.

David: Yeah what is that we look for a major policy shift against Israel and that seems to trigger some type of historical calamity. We actually receive that, that’s what was indicated in the middle part of 2009 as Obama’s administration was just getting going.  And it was pointed out that if this happens then this is what we need to look for.  And it happened on May 19^th 2011.  The President came out in a speech that was described as being very strongly Pro-Palestinian to the point where he was asking Israel to go back to the pre-1967 borders which by previous presidents viewed as something you would never ask Israel to do.  He also indicated that he didn’t want the Palestinian state, that would be created to be severed in two he wanted it to be one continuous land mass. Well the problem with that is that Israel gets in the way.  So it means that Israel would have to be bisected. It was such a strong shift against Israel and US policy that the Washington Post indicated it as such, Democratic Senate leader Harry Reed did, Alan Dershowitz a Harvard Law Professor did as well.

Sid: These are the closest Obama team you can speak of all came against Obama saying that.

David: Yes, so it qualified as what we would be looking for Sid that should produce the historically significant calamity associated with it. So let’s see what happened here.  We know the speech came out on May 19^th, however we know that that isn’t the day that he came up with the policy.  Some weeks earlier the administration obviously came up with the policy and the May 19^th speech was the result of it.  So we can actually track down when he came up with that policy be looking at the actions of his Middle East point man George Mitchell.  Mitchell tendered his resignation letter which was announced about one week before the President’s big speech. It was highly unusual because to have your point man for the Middle East resign just prior to you giving a big speech is not something the administration could have been too happy about.  But Mitchell resigned just the same before the President’s big speech indicating in strong diplomatic terms “I disagree strongly with this policy.” But the New York Times reported that his letter was written on April 6^th. Well since we know how strongly he felt against the policy we can infer that once the policy was decided upon it was probably not more than a day or two that he tendered his letter of resignation.  That brings us to April 4^th or 5^th and what happened would be began happening on April 4^th 2011 is what is described as the worst tornado rampage in world history, not just U.S., but world history as well as flooding only comparable to 1927.  So tragically it included the monster tornado that struck Joplin, Missouri; I was in that area of the country back in July and it just incredible what that tornado produced there.  In addition it was now the record was broken by hundreds of tornadoes; I believe it was 892 tornadoes were accounted for over a period of about one month.  And it all began on April 4^th which coincidentally appears to mark the best date we can narrow down to when the new policy was started.  You can also look back and see in the state of Alabama that they were just ravaged by tornadoes.  I know in Louisiana the flooding that we experienced caused what we call the spillway to be open which caused people to have to move out of the spillway to let the water go in there.  It just impacted a lot of people.

Sid: You know with the current anti-Israel administration in, I can understand why the majority of the Jewish people voted for President Obama the first election, but it defies reason why the majority of the Jewish people in the United States of America voted for him a second time when he is so anti-Israel and the administration is so anti-Israel.  It kind of reminds me to a parallel of Adolf Hitler when the Jewish people were blinded to even him until he started doing things.  Do you see that?                                               

David: I think it’s a state of disbelief; there’s a lack of the ability to wrap one’s mind around certain concepts because they’re too unpleasant.  And I think in this case you know I’m not sure that Jewish people realize just how dangerous the situation is growing for Israel by the day in the Middle East.  You know you’ve got regimes being toppled for example the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt good-gosh really I mean how dangerous is that.

Sid: But they keep having visits to the White House, they are friends of the Administration.

David: It blows you away because they will never be a friend of the United States or Israel.

Sid: For those that don’t really know the Muslim Brotherhood tell me what their objective is.

David: Their objective is the destruction of Israel, complete eradication of the Jews from the land and to take back Al-Quds they call it, which is Jerusalem.  The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who is so cozied up with Obama Administration was in the United States worshiping and they were able to read his lips as he came in agreement with the cleric who was speaking about desiring the annihilation of the Jews in Israel.  So there’s no doubt that they’re not a friend of the United States, there not a friend of Israel and we shouldn’t be cozying up to them but for some strange reason the United States is under President Obama.

Sid: Well, tell me about some of the next things you see happening based on having reported what would happen in your first book and it did happen. What are some of the new things you see happening.                           

David: You know I talk about the, what I call three common denominators to all of these historically significant disasters, when we look at each one of them they do in fact have three common denominators.  If you look at the first effort which was the Madrid Peace Process in 1991 the whole concept behind that was if we can just get Israel to give away land it’s going to result in peace.  So the word “peace” is established in that.  The round 6 of Madrid produced a move toward that ultimately lead to the Oslo Peace Accord the whole concept was peace.  Every single effort is in the name of peace and it’s important here to distinguish between real peace and the facade of peace.  So we have that one denominator that’s common to every one of these 13 calamities that we’ve looked at the word peace.  The other most obvious word associated with all of them is “destruction.”  You know the destruction of what we’re looking at is historical in each and every one.  We’re not looking at any run of the mill type of calamities but we’re looking at historical, we’re looking at the Perfect Storm. Wow was that an odd storm when you study about it once in a hundred years.  Hurricane Andrew good gosh I was in Florida at the time they asked anyone going south to bring water to the poor people.  The great flood in 19…

Sid: All of these occurred within hours of coming against Israel and these are some of the worst calamities to ever hit in the history of America!

David: And you just hit the nail on the head for the third one, not only do we have the word peace associated with all of these but also the word destruction which we just looked at, but you just said the third one, it was “sudden destruction.”  It happened immediately and usually it happened to the day that the effort was being launched at worst, it began the week of it. I don’t know if anyone’s ever calculated the odds of this but it would have to be astronomical.  Now this is the thing, if the Lord wants believer’s to see a sign that will be missed by the world; in other words those of us who are being watchful and sober concerning the times that we live in, then we seem to have three recurring themes since 1991 playing like a broken record.   Peace, then sudden destruction, peace then sudden destruction, playing over and over again.  So perhaps we need to take a look and step back and say “Hey there must be a message here,” and in fact when you consider that particular phrase there is.  If you go to 1^st Thessalonians chapter 5 we told “When they say peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them and they shall not escape.”  Well, it’s a pretty dire warning but it’s exactly representative of what we’ve been seeing.

Sid: So in affect that scripture that most Christians are familiar with is we’re getting previews of it and we’re being shown exactly what ingredients that are necessary for it to happen.  We’re out of time but I’m going to tell you this is fascinating this is new revelation from scripture.

SID: So Jennifer has a great miracle. She has a relationship with God. God begins answering her prayers. She’s out of jail. Her record just totally disappears. She’s back and reunited with her daughter. She’s making $3000 a week. She has an extraordinary gift for writing. She’s making $3000 a week. And then all of a sudden she loses her job. She’s now making zero a week. She’s on food stamps. That must have been quite a comedown.

JENNIFER: It really was. It was very humiliating, honestly, having to go from having sort of everything to nothing. But what I had was worth more than all the money in the world. At this point, I had Jesus.

SID: Well and because she had a relationship with the Messiah things began to change as you began to pray. Tell me what happened.

JENNIFER: Well I began, as I said, to devour the Word and I never stopped. I began to meditate on the Word, and I began to put the Word into practice. And it’s one thing to read the Word and it’s another to study the Word. But when we put our action on the Word, that’s when we begin to see results, and that’s what I did. I plugged into a good church, I got equipped and I began to take the Word at face value. You know, if the Word says it, I believe that’s what it means.

SID: Well speaking of the Word saying it, one day, God speaks to you and He says to you, you’re robbing me. What did He mean?

JENNIFER: Yeah. I was living, very little money at the time. But what I did have I was generous. I would let people borrow it. And they kept stealing it from me. I wouldn’t be able to pay a bill because someone had taken the money that I lent to them. And I was really very angry and annoyed. And I was down on my couch on my knees, and I said, “God, you know, what is going on with this? I’m generous, I’m trying to help people. What is going on? I’m tired of all these people robbing from me.” And I heard the still small voice, and my heart says, “Well stop robbing from me.” And it was then that I learned really to tithe, to give the 10 percent to God. And I tell you when I did that, Sid, things slowly, it didn’t happen overnight, but step by step, began to turn around for me.

SID: Well give me kind of a review of what’s going on with you right now about the turnaround. How many books have you published? Have you ever seen those books for dummies in bookstores? She’s written a couple of them. Tell me about that.

JENNIFER: I’ve written several of those now, and those were the first books that I began to write long before I began to write religious books. And so I’ve written a number of those. I’ve now written eight Christian books on top of that. And God has taken the gift within me and used to bring increase and to bring prosperity into my life, and He’ll do the same thing for anybody.

SID: Okay. Tell me about the oceanfront condo. I mean, from food stamps to an oceanfront condo. Tell me about that.

JENNIFER: It’s really supernatural. What happened was I began to understand the law of confession, and I’m not talking about the name and claim it. I’m talking about standing in line with what God’s Word says. And so I began, I had a desire in my heart. I wanted an oceanfront condo. And so I began to confess: I have an oceanfront condo and it is paid for, back in 2005. I have an oceanfront condo and it is paid for. And I just, everyday, I had a list of confessions and I would read that. At the same time I would tithe, I would give offerings and I would work hard. And sure enough, within five years I have an oceanfront condo. And guess what?

SID: What?

JENNIFER: It’s paid for.

SID: I like that. How would you like that? Anything God will do for her, God will do for you. But let me ask you something. You struggled with fear and doubt, and unbelief. What did God show you about doubt and unbelief?

JENNIFER: God showed me a couple of things. Doubt is the doorway to unbelief, and unbelief will lead to fear. But the Holy Spirit showed me something even last night. He said, “The battle is in the mind, but the war is for your heart.” And the reason why is because—

SID: Wait a second. Explain that first.

JENNIFER: The battle is in the mind. So we have thoughts. The enemy launches his fiery darts. And really the battle is in the mind. It’s the thought, it’s the imaginations, it’s the suggestions that we hear: well you’ll never prosper, well you’ll never be healed, well you’ll never do this or that. And that’s the enemy bringing doubt, causing you to bring doubt that you will doubt God’s Word. See the battle is in the mind, but the war is for your heart. See, because the Bible says that we believe with our heart and we don’t believe with our mind. Believing with our mind is simply mental ascent. But believing with our heart, having pure faith in our heart, that is where the miracles happen.

SID: We’re going to come back in a moment and I want you to share the revelation that she had of how to believe with all of your heart, because that’s the reason that many of you are not having your prayers answered. There’s fear, there’s doubt, there’s unbelief. And even though you say, I believe, you really aren’t believing in your heart. We’ll be right back.

Sid: I am really overwhelmed of the value of this brand new tool Mike Shreve that you’ve just come out with.  It’s a book and 4 CD’s called “Sixty-Five Promises from God for Your Child.”  I believe that it’s a right on book because on yesterday’s broadcast I was talking to you about our school system, education system where there calling black white, they’re doing the opposite of God’s word. By the time someone graduates from college and has gone through out school system they will find systematically everything they’ve taught their children under-minded unless they’re undergirded by a faith that is Bible faith it’s not hope, it’s not struggling, it’s absolute knowing.  And that’s why you’re book, you’ve researched it, you’ve used it on your own family; you’ve gotten so many testimonies of people that have heard your teaching and they’re finding miraculous results going on.  I’ll tell you, share one quick testimony of someone that has used your teaching with their children or grandchildren.

Mike:  Well, I got an email recently from a woman who knows you very well, in fact twenty years ago you witnessed to her husband in an airport up in Baltimore and he came to the Lord.  And because of the kind of life that he was before he got saved it affected the children in that family.  The son became a heroin addict, but this woman became familiar with a particular revelation that God’s given me and she began praying the promises over her son who was a heroin addict and he was all messed up in a lot of ways couldn’t hold down a job just totally rebellious. Now she emailed me and she said “He’s off of heroin completely, he’s got a job a great job,” and she’s just believing God to do even more miracles in his life.  And so but she began claiming promises like Deuteronomy 30 verse 6 where God said “I will circumcise your heart and the heart of your seed to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul so you may live.”  You cannot legislate love; you can’t force anyone to love a concept, to love God, to love you.  You can’t make a child love you nor can you make a child love God.  But God said, “You claim this promise Deuteronomy 30 verse 6 I will circumcise your heart and the heart of your seed.”  Which to me means that God will cut away the worldly influence, the negative peer pressure; He’ll circumcise the heart, he’ll cut away, He’ll peel away the carnality that rules the fallen nature, and that He will implant within that child genuine love for God.  And she began claiming that promise and it wasn’t I guess it was about a year she kept praying, and it doesn’t always happen overnight, but he got off of heroin, God changed his life.

Sid: Would you explain for those because it’s a brand new book and it’s just literally off the press, would you explain what is accomplished in this book and the 4 CDs.

Mike:  Well I believe it’s a major assault against the enemy on a battlefield that every parent knows very well.  Because there is well, we have history of how for instance the enemy through Pharaoh tried to destroy Moses’ generation in order to prevent the seed that would come to bring deliverance.  And I believe the enemy has an orchestrated plan right now to destroy this generation with witchcraft, perversion, with all kinds of dark agendas. So we have to go to business with warring against the adversary.  The way you wind a battle with demonic forces is the words. That’s how Jesus fought the devil He would say “It is written, you don’t fight with your emotions, you don’t fight with logic, you fight with the word of God and when you find the specific promises, sixty-five promises that God’s given to our children, and you begin to wage warfare with those promises it definitely has an impact in the Spirit realm.  One of my favorite promises for backslidden children is Proverbs 11:21 “The seed of the righteous shall be delivered.”  The whole verse says “Though hand join in hand the wicked shall not go unpunished but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.”  And when a parent who has a backslidden bound, up child that is all bound up in the world and in sin begins to speak that over the their lives I believe that it disintegrates the yoke eventually.  The word of God will prevail in that child’s behalf.

Sid: Well, I have your book open I just opened it at random let me explain what I’m seeing; here is, and these again are 65 verses; you should have one book for your children and grandchildren and in some cases if you have great grandchildren.  First of all you have the scripture for salvation.  “Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”  Then you do very anointed teaching on this scripture so that someone will believe this they just won’t be saying words out in the atmosphere it will be from a heartfelt conviction.  And then you have, you’ve written the prayer for them and then you have a space form them to actually insert their child or their grandchild or great-grand child’s name.  And I can picture every day I’m looking at the gentleman that produces our television show Warren Marcus and I know he has children, and I know that he has grandchildren. I can see him getting one of these books and putting his daughters name, his son’s name, his grandchildren’s name and every day getting up early and sowing into his children and grandchildren something that money can’t buy.  And you know these 4 CDs that you’ve done Mike, God has given you such a supernatural level of belief from seeing what God did in your own family from the thousands of positive feedback from different people from all walks of life and all situations that have done this.  In fact I got to ask you a question, your son who was supposed to have mental damage and had such a traumatic birth.  And your daughter that was supposed…they wanted you to abort her and now you see them today and now you see them better than normal you see children of Godly parents should be way beyond normal. They should be extraordinary and tell me about when your son was 4 years old he had a dream about heaven.

Mike:  Oh yes, that fits in with the promise “All you shall be taught by the Lord and great shall be the peace of your children.”  One morning my son came down from his bedroom and he said “Mommy, daddy I died in my sleep last night and met Jesus and He showed me around Heaven.”  And of course he didn’t die but that’s how he interpreted it because it seemed to him as he had left his body and went to Heaven.  And he used words that were adult words. For instance he said “Jesus told him not to ever watch bad television and to always have compassion for all people.”  He looked at me quizzically and he said “Daddy what does compassion mean?”    

Sid: At four of course he doesn’t know what that word means.

Mike:   Yeah the very fact that he didn’t know what the word meant let me know that it was a legitimate experience and I told him I said, “Well, that’s love feels the suffering of other people.”  And so that was a real transformational experience for him. I had been claiming that passage of scripture.  I’ve always searched through the promises of God there’s 7,487 promises in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, but there’s 65 that belong to our children.  And one of my favorites is Deuteronomy 7:9 where the Bible says “He is a faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy with them that love him to a thousand generations.”  A generation is either 40 years or a 100 years; there’s controversy on that.  Well if it’s 40,000 years we don’t have that much time but God says for 40 millennia there will be hovering over of covenant and mercy over those that had come forth from your family-line long before you will be forgotten there will be people in this world with a reservoir of mercy hovering over their lives, if you’re in a relationship, a submitted relationship with God.  And so if the impact last that long it’s certainly going to hover over my sons, and daughters my grandsons, my granddaughters.

Sid: Just very briefly you prayed this way with your daughter for a month for her to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. At age 6 briefly what happened to her?

Mike:  Well, actually I prayed a very specific verse or two verses Isaiah 44 verses 3 and 4.  Where God said “I will pour water on him who is thirsty and floods on the dry ground and I will pour My Spirit on your descendants and my blessing on your offspring.”  Well I began to confess the promise over her, she was 5 years old at the time.  She was in one of my meetings where I was preaching and that night she fell out under the power of God was overwhelmed by the Spirit she crawled up in my arms and spoke in tongues for about 45 minutes and then she looked at me with tears streaming down out of her eyes and she said “Oh daddy Jesus filled me,” now would that have happened had I not claimed the promise?  I’m not so sure, there is such a power in knowing these promises and claiming them…

Sid: Oh Mike we’re out of time.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Ron and Glenda Pettey. Ron dies on the operating table. He’s instantly in heaven. There’s a registration desk. An angel looks through the book. His name is not there. He causes, as he says, a ruckus. I don’t blame him. I would cause a ruckus too. But Ron, there were people on earth praying for you. Tell me about that.

RON: There was a lot of, what I’m calling, confusion in heaven. I had it thought of as a quiet, serene, beautiful place, and when I got there, it was a lot of noise, like walking into a large auditorium. A large auditorium and hearing everybody talk at one time. And I didn’t understand what it was. The person behind this desk asked me…

GLENDA: I think you asked him, “What is all this noise?”

RON: Yeah, and this person behind the desk said “Don’t you know?”

RON: I said “No, I don’t. Tell me what it is.” These were all intercessory prayers coming up on my behalf.

SID: So all the noise that you were hearing were people praying for you to not die.

GLENDA: Right.

RON: In disbelief, I said “You’ve got to be kidding me. I don’t know this many people.” The person behind the desk said “Would you like to hear one?” A prayer was drawn out. I was drawn to it, basically, and I heard every word that man was praying. And it was verified, because I think two Sundays before, they had started recording their messages, and it was all on tape.

SID: So when you heard it, it was word-for-word? Actually, as I understand it from the book,
you said the prayer, and then you listened to it? Is that what happened?

GLENDA: Exactly. That’s exactly what happened. So Mabry Cain, our friend, said “Well we prayed for you a lot of times. I don’t remember a particular time.” So Ron explained again, said the prayer, quoted him an exact phrase, which was a unique phrase, and then they found the tape, and it matched exactly. SID: You had so many wonderful experiences in heaven. One had to do with, you had a stillborn baby. Tell me about that.

RON: I’ll let… Ok. I’m sorry.

GLENDA: Ron relives his testimony, his story, every time we’re asked to share it. And that’s a very difficult part. He heard children’s voices, and one child’s voice was drawn out above the others. He tried to walk near to this barrier, but he could not pass through. He could not see the children, he could hear them playing as if playing in water, a stream. They sounded very happy. But he immediately knew that voice drawn out was our son, Jason. And as you walked toward the wall, or the barrier…

RON: This very large, authoritative angel stood in my way; put his hand over my face. It was a large hand, because it covered my entire face. He said “He’s fine, he’s taken care of. Now move back.” And I did. I moved back to the table where my name wasn’t in the book. I moved back to that table.

SID: Glenda, the thing in his story… It’s an overwhelming story, about the children in heaven.

GLENDA: Right. The next scene Ron was aware of were many thousands of people walking in the same direction. It was a corridor of people. Ron looked ahead to see where they were going, and Jesus was there, seeming to receive them. The majority of the people were children, children of all sizes and ages, with adults sprinkled throughout the crowd. You also saw children carrying something in their hands.

RON: What these children were carrying were other children. What I saw was not other children, I saw a miniature adult in their hands; what these children would’ve become if they’d have not been aborted or stillborn.

SID: Ron, you made eye contact with a young man in heaven. Tell me about that. It was very significant.

RON: This young man, almost in a mischievous way, said “I made it, I made it, I made it. And you didn’t.”

GLENDA: As he was walking along in the crowd, you made eye contact.

RON: He walked up to the Lord. Now the Lord was there. He passed through the Lord into heaven. I just… The Bible just came alive, because it says the only way to enter into heaven is through Jesus Christ Himself. That’s the only way.

SID: And what did the Lord tell you about this young man?

RON: He said…

GLENDA: Two words.

RON: Two words: “Remember this.” I thought I was supposed to remember that young man, and I would never forget him. I still don’t, to this day.

SID: But there was a reason that Jesus said that, and it’s so amazing. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.

On It’s Supernatural: Julie True is releasing the sounds of heaven through the music that God gives her. When people hear Julie’s music, they experience peace and rest. The supernatural becomes normal, and many experience the presence of angels.

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 25 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. I had an experience with Julie True. I was interviewing her on radio, and after I interviewed her, there was a tangible… I don’t mean just something in my mind, I mean tangible. You could touch it. It was peace. She has found that when she sings, there’s like a portal from heaven coming to earth, flooding people. In this world, the way… I mean just be human. Just breathe a few times and you’ll find challenges in this world. Challenges in the economy. Challenges with traffic. Challenges with family. Challenges with finance. Just plain challenges.

If you could just bask in that presence… It’s the presence of God, is what it is. Julie, I don’t think you can answer this question, but I have to ask you anyway. How come this happens when you sing?

JULIE: When I get quiet and still and start to sing, I always feel the peace of God.

SID ROTH: You know what’s so amazing? It’s sort of like, every one of us has gifts inside of us. Like the last thing in the world I ever wanted to do was be on television behind a microphone. Absolute last thing in the world. But, through circumstances, I found myself in that position. But it’s almost as if we get sabotaged in our gifting before we even know we have the gifting. Now Julie, when you went to church and wanted to use – I mean you’re a fabulous musician – you wanted to use an instrument to worship God, what did they tell you?

JULIE: That was not allowed. The way I grew up, it was believed that it was not pleasing to God; that under the New Testament, instruments were not part of that, because it said to sing and make melody in your heart to the Lord.

SID: We had a Hebrew word that explains what you’re saying right now. You know what that Hebrew word is? Mashuga. It means crazy. You’ve got to be crazy. The whole purpose is for us to have intimacy with God and worship God. Your CD, your music – I’m going to use an expression the teens use – is hot.

I mean literally so hot, there was this woman in Canada who got this particular CD before she even…

Now this is hot, before she even… Well, I’ll let you hear it in her words. Let’s go to that.

When I went down to get the mail, there was only one package. As soon as I just opened the corner,

I didn’t even see the CD, the cover of it or anything, the power of God came on me really strong.

I nearly fell on the floor. I was able to get to the chair, to fall on the chair rather than the floor.

I started to weep. It was so incredibly beautiful, it was like a pure and holy weeping. It wasn’t a painful, sorrowful weeping, it was like a healing weeping. I dashed into the living room and put it on my CD player, and when I started to praise the Lord, something else incredible happened to me. I was praising God in a way I never praised God before. It wasn’t in words, but it was in the sound of my voice. It was so different. I knew there were angels. I knew the room was full of angels, and I was kind of afraid to open my eyes,

because the presence of God was all over me. I just felt the love of God, the peace of God, and I just felt so comforted.

SID: Now when you hear that, Julie, that is wild.

JULIE: That is wild. She hadn’t even heard it yet. I mean she had not started playing it yet.

SID: The thing that I find when I listen to your music, I feel so peaceful, I feel so restful. Do you hear this from other people?

JULIE: Yes. Peace and rest, helping people sleep, babies being able to sleep. That’s a big part of the kind of feedback I’ve gotten.

SID: On this CD, you can bottle it, it’s so tangible. You’re going to hear this and experience it for yourself.

SID: You know, many religious people, they’re used to going to a congregation and having a few songs and then the announcement, and then the offering, and then the message, and then lunch. But Roy Fields, you will worship sometimes for two hours. And you said to me that there is such, the atmosphere so changes, that it activates the promises of God without you even saying anything, just in that worship. Tell me about the person that had a burn on a leg.

ROY: I was in a meeting a few years back, and this 15-year old kid approached the stage and he had a bad fire scar on like his leg. And in the middle of worship, he screamed out, he felt pain again in that leg. And when he lifted it up the scar had disappeared, and he came up and showed everybody. I’ve been a skeptic, even as a Christian, because you want to see the real. When I saw that, I went, okay.

SID: What would you do?

ROY: It got my attention.

SID: All right. This amazes me. In four different locations, four different children saw the same thing. What did they see?

ROY: Well we were here in a meeting. I know what you’re referring. We were in meetings. We had about 8000 people in the arena, and these four different children with their parents, from four different states, as you said, came to the back of the table to tell me a message. One of them was on video. The other three were told to me by our staff. And they all said, while I was leading worship, that there was a huge angel standing behind me with a big sword, and it was on fire, and he was just waving it like this. I have never seen an angel. But when all four say that, I don’t have to.

SID: Okay. Tell me about this song, because I happen to love it. It’s the song, how did “In the Presence of Angels” happen?

ROY: Well I was in a house in Destin, Florida, and a boat captain was there, his house. I had done a meeting in his house. And at the end of the night after the meeting was over I was still caught up in worship. Everybody had gone home. I don’t sleep much, Sid. I don’t get a lot of sleep. My mind, my heart, my spirit is always going. In the middle of the night, I was just worshiping the Lord by myself, wasn’t trying to write a song. I don’t try to write a song. And in the middle of worship, once again, I heard this melody. I heard [singing] da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. [talking] I mean, I just, I didn’t have a huge vision, but I could picture it in my mind, as they say, you have your mind’s eye. I pictured this massive throne room with angels, and I mean multitudes and multitudes of angels were just like dancing in this kind of order. It was kind of like ballroom dancing, except not with partners. It was just everybody and it was all to God. And it was [singing] Holy, holy, holy, worthy, glory, glory [talking] over and over. I must have sang in the middle of the—until, I don’t know, three o’clock in the morning. I looked down at my watch. I had been at the keyboard for two and half hours. I wasn’t even aware of the time.

SID: You know, I could listen to that song for hours.

ROY: I have.

SID: I’m sure. I want to release you to sing, “In the Presence of Angels” and I want to release you to be freer than you’ve ever been before, because I believe you are in the presence of angels.

Roy [music, singing] This is a realm of your glory. This is a realm of your grace. I can feel your mighty power. It is moving in this place. We’re in the presence of angels with God’s glory on their wings. Like the voice of many waters I can hear the angels sing, singing holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. This is a realm of your glory. This is a realm of your grace. I can feel your mighty power. It is moving in this place. We’re in the presence of angels with God’s glory on their wings. Like the voice of many waters I can hear the angels sing, singing holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. You are worthy, worthy. You are worthy, worthy. Show us your glory, glory.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone speaking to him at their home at South Beloit, Illinois is Ben and Brenda Peters; now on yesterday’s broadcast we found out that Ben came from quite a godly heritage of grandparents in ministry.  And he went to Bible college and he wasn’t backslidden or anything, but he was just arrested by the Holy Spirit when he was asked in a simple dorm prayer meeting “What is your burden?” He realized that he didn’t have any supernatural burden for the lost for anything.  And at that moment he had an encounter with the Holy Spirit his heart was changed and he became such an intercessor for others that even as he explained on yesterday’s broadcast you could hear the tears welling up within him I could hear it in his voice.  And then he began to have such a burden that he would wake up two hours early in the morning and sometimes he had never fasted before, sometimes he would even fast breakfast because Ben you said to me “The presence of God was so wonderful it was better than food.”

Ben: It sure was, it sure was and the incredible thing about it is that the scripture that say “They that sow in tears will reap in joy.”  It was such a strong desire to see the power of God released again to bring souls to Christ. Just a couple of years later a revival came to our city and it wasn’t the fullness of what I’d asked for but it was the first fruits.  And then in 1973 I traveled with a man of God that we had met and he took me to Argentina, and I was just a young man still, but the power of God moved so mightily there that we had six weeks of nonstop miracles and salvation, souls being saved.  He had a strong prophetic ministry that we partly inherited I believe. During that time he would get words of knowledge for people; he would prophesy he would see visions and people would be healed.  And we had deaf and dumb born…three young men that were born deaf and dumb that were healed during those meetings. I saw every other kind of sickness and disease healed in that time and it was the most joyful time in my life.  I always remind people that the sow in tears will reap in joy if you don’t faint you will see the results.  When you pray in intercession and when their tears flowing down your face you know that the Holy Spirit is moved you to pray and when He moves you to pray He will fulfill the desires of your heart and you will see those prayers answered.

Sid: I also have on the telephone Ben Peter’s wife Brenda. Brenda really moves in very accurate prophesy and I have some questions for Brenda.  First of all was there anything prophetic when you met Ben at Bible School and ended up marrying him?

Brenda: Getting to know Ben was very special to me because I came from a non-Christian background and I was learning in my quiet times that were assigned to us to listen to God.  And after one of our missions meetings on a Friday night I was working in gratis and I had been in the Bible College approximately half a year. Ben came down stairs while I was setting up the tables and I was talking to one of my girlfriends who was assisting me and I looked up and when I looked up and caught Ben’s eyes it was as if I was looking right into the depths of his heart and I knew at that moment there was a presence of God and I knew at that moment the Holy Spirit was saying, yeah the Holy Spirit was saying to me “He’s the one.”

Sid: Well how long did it take from that moment to the time you got married?

Brenda: Probably one year; we were engaged within a year and married about a year and a half later.

Sid: Alright tell me I’m very intrigued over your gift of prophesy; when did you realize you were prophetic and how does it operate?

Brenda: I didn’t realize I was prophetic until I became a pastor’s wife and then we worked in a small country church.  Ben served under a senior pastor who moved in the prophetic continuously he had a strong gift of knowledge.  As I basically served and encouraged people all the time I had a need to encourage people. I would always find myself looking for the qualities in their life and going past the negative and this actually became the roots of the prophetic for me on my journey.

Sid: Give me a few examples of how the gift operates with you; maybe specific examples.

Brenda: I realized that the prophetic was very strong on my life after taking classes on the prophetic for a season of time and we went to a meeting under our leader and he released us to prophesy and he turned to me and he said, “Brenda I believe I’m supposed to give you the mic tonight” and we began to minister over a large group of pastors in Canada.  When I took the mic the presence of God came on me so strong I began to prophesy with a powerful anointing I began to speak into every pastors life.  There had to be about 20 pastors a powerful word and I knew that it was God because I could not have made any of that up.

Sid: Were you a kind of a little child that was just amazed that God used you like that?

Brenda: I was.

Sid: And out of curiosity does He operate in other prophetic areas with you such as dreams or visions?

Brenda: Actually there are times when I’m prophesying and I’ll get mental pictures or visions and those visions or mental pictures will be related to the person that I’m standing in front of.So I will speak into those pictures right at the same time that I’m prophesying.

Sid: And when you see those pictures is it like you have to have your eyes closed or do you see them on top of the person. I mean I’m just plain curious tell me how it operates.

Brenda: I understand no actually it’s a mental picture I’m looking directly into their eyes my eyes are wide open; there are times when I’ll close my eyes and pray so that I can just grab the picture and the word I’m getting at the same time and then I’ll look into their eyes.  But I’m seeing the picture similar to a mind it’s just a picture I’m getting in my mind.

Sid: Okay what is God showing you currently?

Brenda: I’ve had visions related to what’s going on in the world in this hour; I have actually seen visions of angels in the Heavenly realm. It’s as if there are Lieutenant Commander Angels holding back the hosts of angels that are being prepared to be released to us to assist us in bringing in the lost for the harvest that’s talked about in the Bible.  I have been getting excited because I’m seeing the youth going out in buses. I have actually seen visions of youth on stadium platforms and going out in buses and worshipping and opening the Heavens for revival.

Sid: Well I have to tell you Brenda I’ve never met you in person at least I don’t believe I have.Have we had our paths cross?

Brenda: No I’ve seen you on television.

Sid: Okay of course I’ve never met your husband Ben but both of you the presence of the God is so strong on both of you.If I had to say to you Brenda what is the strongest passion you have within you what would you say?

Brenda: The strongest passion I have is to go deeper into the heart of God and then carry that presence everywhere I go to raise up those that are broken and hurting.I find myself with this urgency when I’m walking outside I look for people to encourage; walking in airports I look for people to encourage I just encourage and God will give me a prayer for them and I’ll say “Can I share this prayer I’m getting a prayer for you?”  And then I’ll prophesy into their lives and they’ll cry; tears will happen. Grocery stores I’ll stand in the line and they presence of the Holy Spirit will move on me and I’ll just begin to speak to the grocery clerk “You know God has a prayer for you can I share it?”  They’re crying, just bikers I’ve ministered to bikers, I’ve ministered to truckers in truck stops. I just have this cry in my heart to raise people up from their brokenness and give them vision for how God sees them.

Sid: Okay I have read your husband’s book “Prophetic Ministry.” He says that everyone can move in the prophetic which is God’s method that or signs and wonders to arrest the nonbeliever’s attention to preach the gospel.  Do you believe that too that everyone can move in prophesy?

Brenda: Very definitely when we were called out of our church actually we received a prophetic word about moving into the prophetic and traveling and when we launched into that ministry I found myself actually looking for places to get away with God.  I remember the Baptist camp I found a cross in San Diego and went up to the cross every morning in the early morning hours and I would just lay on my face at the foot of the cross and put worship on and invite the presence of God the Holy Spirit.  The Holy Spirit would show up and I would be on my face in prayer one to two hours every morning experiencing His presence.

Sid: Now the key was not that you found a particular place by a cross the key was that you found a place and spent a few hours quality hours with God every day.

Brenda: Exactly with worship and I really believe the time that you just rest in the presence of God with worship and then open up the word and He’ll speak to you.  But it’s a time to listen and then you have…

Sid: I’ll tell you what let’s…we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast.

Sid: I’m going to tell you something when you understand how the Bible clearly points out the next war in the Middle East it’s eminent it’s different than most people think and the Bible actually names the players, it names the countries, it even tells you what’s going to happen to each country that’s involved in the endtime war.  It tells you the future of America.  Bill Salus has spent the last eleven years when God gave him this revelation just doing research, and I believe he did it just for you.  Bill first it’s important to understand because most believers do not understand the roots of the conflict.If you don’t understand the roots of the conflict when you read today’s headlines you don’t have a clue of what’s going on it’s like seeing the tip of the iceberg but 90% of the iceberg’s under the water and you’re trying to make decision based on that 10% that you can see with your naked eye.

Bill: Absolutely Sid they don’t understand the roots of the conflict.  Six decades have come and gone and the conflict is worse.The enemies of Israel have more dangerous weapons than ever before.  The attitude is that they don’t want the Jewish State to exist and this is something that’s not going to get better according to Bible prophecy it will come out and play out in an Arab Israeli war written about 3000 years ago by the Psalmist Asaph one of King David’s worship leader who was also a prophet/seer.  But you’re right there is an ancient hatred that the Bible speaks about in the Hebrew words are “Olamebam.”  And it talks about it being an existence from time and memorial and resurfacing throughout time even to the present.  And when these two words are put together Sid it’s very definitive; it’s a condition stemming back long ago in ancient times perpetuated throughout time manifesting into hostility with no apparent end in sight.  In other words it’s cancerous it will not go away it needs surgical removal and unfortunately that means war.

Sid:Now can man, in any way you understand, be able to orchestrate peace and not have this horrible scenario occur that we see in the Bible that you’ll be explaining this week?

Bill:  Well, man has tried and man could.Actually there’s a plan that God had put together in Jeremiah 12 verses 14- 17 that I point out in my new book.  That God actually had His own peace plan together for the nations when the Jews came back into the land how He would set the stage for that to be all harmonious, but of course that required that the Arab populations would accept the re-gathered nation of Israel the rebirth nation of Israel and they would worship Jehovah not Allah.  It required a few basis things, but I point this out what they are and that’s not what’s going on unfortunately.  So God had a compassionate roadmap plan a peace 2 state solution, a peace plan together but there in reach of that.  The Arabs are in breach of that and they’re going to confederate according to Psalm 83 and try to wipe Israel off the map Sid that’s what I think is in the makings; I think the Arab spring is pointing in that direction.

Sid:Now you point out reasons why you feel that this is going to happen soon; what are the reasons for the next Middle East War that had to occur in order for it to happen?

Bill:  Well because you know there’s 6 decades have gone on.The Arab Spring has created a very unstable situation over there in the Middle East.

Sid:That’s where everything all of these Arab nations the governments are being toppled and the wrong guys are getting control.  You know what I was thinking Bill, this could have never happened without Facebook, and the computer, and the communication that people have now.  I mean we needed literally needed a computer for Psalm 83 to happen.

Bill: Well you know it’s interesting you’re absolutely right when this Arab Spring was going on the liberal pundits thought it was nothing more than the youth over there driven by the social networks like you said Facebook, Twitter, etcetera.Looking out of State Central media and 7th Century Islam into life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  And that’s all wonderful and we wish that for them, western style democracies, but that’s not what’s happening Sid.  We’ve got a Syrian revolution that’s gone on since March of 2011 still ongoing as we speak.You’ve got a Muslim Brotherhood now who’s oppressed for forty years in Egypt that will be calling for Sharia law that is now in power.

Sid:Now they have open access to our White House, I find that outrageous!

Bill:  Well, they do and you know their President Mohammed Morsi is the consummate politician he has met with Hillary Clinton, he has met with Leon Panetta, but he has also met with the Hamas he has also met with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.  He’s also met with Erdoğanof Turkey.  So if you read behind the scenes you start to recognize that he is just playing politics presently at this point in time.  They have agenda, they want to unite the Arab states through Islam, through Sharia law and they want to march as a capitol; not Cairo, but Jerusalem and this was one of the campaign plans by Mohammed Morsi that had been advocated before he became president.

Sid:President of Egypt, but go ahead.

Bill: You know the stage is really set and like you said, what’s interesting is that we have these leaders Mubarak who ruled Egypt for 30 years, and the Tunisian guy Ali for 23 years, and Gaddafi was 42 years, and even the Saleh of Yemen was 43 years.  These long standing leaders who were really not threatening Israel in a war at any point in time; they’re gone but you know who’s not gone are the people that want to wipe Israel off the map:Ayatollah Khomeini, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Bashar Assad, Hassan Nasrallahof Hezbolla, and Mohammed Morsi of Egypt.  You know I mean and we’re told in Daniel 2:21 that “It’s the Lord who changes times and seasons and raises and removes kings; He give wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those with understanding.”  And I think the wisdom to the wise is that the leaders that would want to wipe Israel off the map are in place; the weapons are in place the attitude is in place and that we need to be prepared for missiles to fly in the Middle East.  And Sid that’s an imminent concern I have right now.

Sid:And how about Syria and we know but we don’t know but I believe that all the chemical weapons that were in Iraq are now in Syria ready to be turned on its own people and perhaps Israel.

Bill:Well, it’s a…Syria had their own weapons program once upon a time and it was very advanced.  And there’s good reason to believe because even Saddam Hussein one of his upper echelon individuals named George Sada has come out since Hussein has fallen and said “Yes we did have chemical weapons and yes they were moved into Syria.” Now Syria supposedly has the largest undisclosed, we believe third in the world, undisclosed arsenal of chemical weapons and they’ve been moving them around because of the concerns of what’s going on with the freestanding army and the revolution over there,and supposedly stored in around 20 different sites.  Sid you know just the other day Bashar Assad went out and said “Look if there is international intervention into his revolution he is there, he will die in Syria he is not going to leave and the Middle East will start to fall down like dominoes.”  That was a quote from Bashar Assad of Syria he is not going to do what Muammar Gaddafi did take a bullet to the head without doing something.  And that’s the concern and as a matter of fact he said I think it was in November of 20ll “That if the International Community get’s involved in his revolution” and at that time he was specifically referring to NATO he said in 6 hours I will send missiles into Tel Aviv and I will have Hezbollah send missiles into Tel Aviv.  Well Sid what is Israel going to do if that happens especially if there’s chemicals.  Now you’re dealing with another Bible prophesy probably inter-related with Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 which talks about the destruction of Damascus the world’s oldest and continuously inhabited city dating back before the time of Abraham over 4000 years ago home to several million Syrians being destroyed.  It says “It will cease to be a city it will be a ruinous heap.” And what’s very detailed about that is Isaiah 17 prophesy Sid is that it goes on to say in verse 9 that it appears to be the IDF in self-defense that has to that.  And in verse 14 of Isaiah 17 it says “At evening tide you see Him.”  Referring to Damascus in the personal pronoun “and in the morning he is no more.”  This is a portion of those who plunder us and those who rob us.

Sid:Okay tell us about how well armed is Hezbollah?

Bill:  Well Hezbollah who has lopped 4,000 rockets into Israel in the summer of 2006 and kept a lot of people in Israel in bomb shelters for 34 days according to the UN resolution 1701 was supposed to dismantle those at that time.We believe now they’ve got 50 to 60,000 missiles.  We believe they’ve got Scud D missiles that they got from Syria, now Scud D Sid are the most advanced Scud’s in the world and they’re not those throw a prayer out and hope that Scud ace thatSaddam Husain had these are Scud-D’s; they can go 400 miles in pin point accuracy and hit within a 20 yard target.  I mean they can hit in the middle of any synagogue they want; they can hit the Dimona if they wanted the nuclear plant out of Israel.

Sid:Okay I see the picture, Iran has nuclear power, we have the Muslims acting crazy attacking our embassy. Hezbollah has 50,000 some rockets with pinpoint accuracy.  Syria has got the chemical weapons.  I mean and this is the whole war the nations involved and we’ll get into it later this week all outlined in Psalm 83.  So I have two questions for you number one, “How imminent is this?

Bill: Well, I don’t see anything standing in the way when you understand Psalm 83 and the nations involved I don’t see anything standing in the way right now of Psalm 83 happening.  Peace talks have failed the only thing, the only two things, the only preconditions are a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel, which was formed in 1979 I believe with Jimmy Carter and a Peace treaty that was formed with Jordan that was formed in 1984 with Bill Clinton.

Sid:And you know I have to interrupt because we’re running out of time right now. However, a lot of people are thinking “Well, what is this got to do with me, I mean I’m just a member of the country.”  No, no, no if you’re on the right side of the fence with the Jew in Israel the last days you’re going to be like a magnet attracting God’s blessings.  If you’re on the wrong side of the fence with the Jew in Israel if you don’t understand in the last days you’re going to be attracting things that won’t be good.