Sid Roth

TONY KEMP:  I was in the state of Louisiana there was a woman who came forward for prayer. She had 60% bone loss. She was in a lot of pain. I came, when she came up to, and I prayed for her nothing happened. I said “Lord, what’s the problem?” The Lord spoke to me and He said “When she was much younger she had an abortion. She repented, asked me to forgive her but she never forgave herself. So I brought it up to her. Instantly she began to cry. As soon as she forgave herself because Jesus said in Luke 6 “Forgive and you shall be forgiven” instantly her pain disappeared and she was healed by Jesus. I was sharing earlier that there was a woman, I did a, a Minister’s meeting in Joshua Texas. A woman came up. She had one shoulder blade like this, another shoulder blade like that. And, uh, she was in tremendous pain. And the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said “She’s mad at her body. She has bitterness and unforgiveness at her body because she can’t do what she used to be able do. Tell her to forgive her body.” In Luke 6 Jesus says “Forgive and you shall be forgiven.” He doesn’t say who and He doesn’t say what. The minute I ask her to forgive her body she yell, she puts out a yell, and she goes UHHH! And her, and her shoulder blades go “Phoooh” and become even and her pain disappears!

AUDIENCE:  Whooo! (APPLAUSE)

TONY:  I remember a case. I’ll never forget this case. Uh, this was a, uh, uh, a Hispanic, uh, brother. He spent a lot of time in, in prison. Uh, he had, he had come to church. Uh, uh, you know, he was kind of a street guy. It was a middle class church. They didn’t understand him, uh, he didn’t understand them. And he got hurt in church, because, you, you know, and he developed bitterness and unforgiveness toward the people. And he, then he had cancer. I so I said to him you need to forgive the people. And he obeys the word. He said this. He said when he obeyed the people he said it was as if lightning struck him! The pain disappears. He goes back to the doctor and they could find no trace of the disease!

AUDIENCE:  (APPLAUSE)

TONY:  The first thing I want to say to you is this. I want you to go before God and I want you to forgive everybody. That means ex-husbands and ex-wives. That means son-in-laws and daughter-in-laws. That means father-in-laws and mother-in-laws. That means employers, supervisors, and employees. And if you are mad at your body, I want you to forgive your body. Because the word says, Exodus 15:26: “I’m the Lord who heals you.” The word says in Exodus 23:25: “The Lord will take your disease away.” The word says in Isaiah 53, that Jesus: “was wounded for your transgressions, bruised for your iniquities, the punishment that brings you peace was placed upon him and with his sufferings at the whipping post we are healed.” The word says “by his wounds you were healed.” And see this is what I say to people: I say, Listen, if you get healed I don’t take the credit. If you don’t get healed, I don’t take the blame!

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

TONY:  Look at somebody and say: “Because the Hebrew songbook says…

AUDIENCE:  The Hebrew songbook says…

TONY:  that God sends His word and heals you.”

AUDIENCE:  …that God sends His word and heals you!

TONY:  So you really don’t need my hand to be laid upon you. Look at somebody and say, “the presence of the Lord is here!”

AUDIENCE:  The presence of the Lord is here!

TONY:  Look at somebody and say, “the power of the Lord is here!”

AUDIENCE:  The power of the Lord is here!

SID: You know Cindy, you were recently in Portugal and there were a group of gypsies, you were speaking to them, and one was brought forward who was in the last stages of cancer. What happened?

CINDY: Well it’s very interesting. There was actually a gypsy man who was in the hospital, and yes, just last stages. They were going to see what they could do to help him. And we arrived and they said, “Well this is so sad. What are we going to do?” And so we set a cloth that we prayed over it. It’s amazing. You lay hands on a cloth and the power of God goes into it. So they took him to hospital. The next morning they operated on him, and so when they opened him up, they just closed him back up and because there was no cancer in his body.

SID: You know Cindy, you’re known as an intercessor. But what exactly is an intercessor?

CINDY: Well you know, an intercessor is one that prays more for others, although you can intercede for yourself. But an intercessor is going to hear from God, sit in the presence of God and let him give some instructions to them on how to pray. It’s very important. Don’t just, you can pray petition praying, which is a list you pray. I have lists I pray over every day. There’s five things I pray every day for myself. But I want to say to you it’s very important to pray like militant prayers. I mean, many times we’re very quiet when we pray. That’s great. I pray those kind of prayers. But I remember a story about Gordon Lindsay. Can I tell the story?

SID: Please.

CINDY: It’s such a great story. Let me just talk to you guys here on the camera.

SID: Excuse me. You use a word and I haven’t been able to shake this word, when you talk about this prayer of Gordon Lindsay. It’s called “violent”. You ever heard of violent? You’re about ready to hear about it.

CINDY: Yes. There comes a time in your life where you say enough is enough. There’s a great Spanish word for it: “basta.” I mean, it means no more, that’s it, it’s over. And when sometimes a situation will be in our life and all of a sudden it occurs to us, wait a minute, I have power and authority right here, and I can stop this. And it’s like a holy indignation. There’s something that just comes up from inside of you, and we call it violent, militant intercession, where we just say, “Satan, you will stop! Basta! You are not doing this anymore. It’s over! Your reign is over and your authority.” This is such a good story, such a good story. Well I write in my book, “Possessing the Gates of the Enemy” a training manual for militant intercession. That’s a gutsy subtitle, isn’t it. But anyway, and that Gordon and Freda were in a place, and a woman heard Gordon’s voice, and she said to Freda, Mrs. Lindsay, she said, “Were you in Shreveport on such and such a day, and was he praying those kind of prayers on such and such a day?” Because Gordon said everyone should pray at least one violent prayer every day, at least one, just rev it up there. And so sure enough, Freda taught, “Yes we were.” And she said, “You know, my husband always prayed like an atomic bomb going off. He’d get up at 5 a.m. and just pray these violent prayers that shook hell and populated Heaven through the intercession.” And so anyway, but he did that and he was known for that. And I think that it’s important to pray prayers with authority and declaration, and I’ve heard you pray those prayers, Sid. You believe in that.

SID: Every time I’ve read that story about Gordon Lindsay, don’t you forget that, he believed you should pray one violent prayer per day. If there’s something that you’re so angry with the devil, have you got a child that doesn’t know the Lord? Have you got a child that’s in drugs? I can think of a lot of reasons why you want to pray a violent prayer. But there’s another aspect that this woman does that I want to understand. I understand Satan hates it when you laugh.

CINDY: [laughing] Yes. That’s great. That’s great, Sid. I was casting out demons one time.

SID: No wonder.

CINDY: Yes, it’s a great job. Anyway, I was casting out demons and this demon, all of a sudden I started to laugh and this demon manifested like this. I hate that voice. I hate that voice. I’ve heard that laugh all over the world. Of course, it would just make me laugh more.

SID: Of course.

CINDY: I was just laughing and laughing, and laughing. But Psalm 2 talks about, “The Lord laughs in derision.”

SID: So in effect, you are laughing at the results of what you’ve just accomplished.

CINDY: Yes. If God is going to laugh in the earth realm, he’s going to laugh at us, right, just like he prayed for us through the power of the Holy Spirit. So that’s a great intercession.

SID: You talk about all over the world that when people understand intercessory prayer they can avert a national crisis. Tell me about one.

CINDY: Absolutely. There are so many. Oh I’ll tell you a good one. You know, I always say, people, you need to pray for my husband Mike because, Sid, being married to intercessor is just a different life. I always tell him, Mike, you have more starch in your crown for just being married to me. So I wake this guy out of dead sleep and I say, “Mike, Mike, wake up! There’s going to be a terrorist attack on a plane and it just left! We got to pray right now for it to stop.” Well he kind of like opened one eye ball and kind of rolled over, handed me his hand and we prayed. And it was averted that night. It was the shoe bomber.

SID: I have heard so many stories. You don’t have any idea how much power and authority that God is entrusted to you. But you know, when I hear intercessor I think of someone interceding for someone else. But guess what? If you know how to intercede for someone else you know how to intercede for yourself, for your loved ones, for your job, for your peace, for anything. Is it a boring life being an intercessor?

CINDY: [laughing] Gotcha.

SID: That’s enough. We got the devil. We’ll be right back after this.

SID: Heidi, I want you to help the people that are watching, and me. I’ve been observing since we’ve been talking for the last few hours, before the show. Your prayer life is not one hour here or one hour there. Sometimes it is, but you look like you’re praying all the time. Are you?

HEIDI: Yes.

SID: You pray in supernatural language and tongues.

HEIDI: Yes.

SID: When you go to sleep, do you pray in tongues?

HEIDI: Yes.

SID: When you’re sleeping, are you praying in tongues?

HEIDI: I sure believe I am.

SID: So Paul, when he said, “I pray in tongues more than any man,” you can say, “I pray in tongues more than any woman.”

HEIDI: I don’t know, but I sure love Jesus.

SID: You seem to be, and this is observation, so in love with Jesus. Tell me about your love affair with Jesus.

HEIDI: I know I just know him. I know what he did for me. When he gave his life for me I know that I was a sinner and he set me free. And my only response to him, the more I know him is to love him more because he first loved me. And Abba first loved me and I only have [unintelligible].

SID: But any born believer knows what you just said, but they segment God for Sunday mornings or Saturday mornings and the rest is for them. How do you get from where you are if they’re there? How do they get there?

HEIDI: The only way I can explain it is if you’ve ever fallen in love with another human being. If you’ve ever actually fallen in love with someone, would you not want to be with them all the time? Would you not want to be connected with them and in communication? Wouldn’t you just want to be connected all the time? This is what is offered to us. God our daddy God, God, Jesus, God Holy Spirit said you can be one, you can be connected with me. He invites us in and once you step in and you taste the glory of his love, the glory of his presence, you don’t want to be anywhere else. You don’t want to be separated from him. You don’t want your mind thinking separate from him.

SID: All right. What would a first step be for a believer that is there to get there?

HEIDI: I believe you get to know him, that everyone can get to know him, first through his word. And some of you say, well we had this discussion, you work nine to five. Well just get the audio version. It’s like if you’re, some people are worried about not being connected to the Internet, how much more should we concerned about not connected to God? He’s given us a direct line. I don’t want to be cut off. And there is a code. The code is Jesus. The code is Jesus. He’s the code that gets you into the connection with God the Father and Holy Spirit. As you yield yourself to Holy Spirit you’re in communication. So I would say get the Word, read the Word, listen to the Word, be in the Word. Allow the Word to be in you and yield yourself to Holy Spirit. You can be filled to the degree that you want to be filled. You can be filled to the degree that you are yielded to God. Like Jesus, he emptied himself out. He became nothing. Jesus, God in the flesh became nothing and he was completely dependent on the Father, completely dependent on the Holy Spirit and then he said, “Come follow me.” Come follow me. How do we want to live a life in any other way? He’s our joy and our delight.

SID: You know, I wrote a song as a young Jewish man that didn’t know my left hand from my right hand. I was college-educated and everything, but I meant spiritually. And this song was, “There Must Be Something More”. If that’s the cry of your heart tell Jesus you’re sorry for your sins, believe his blood washed them away and ask him to live inside of you, and ask him to be your Lord. Would you pray that the same hunger you have, look into the camera, the same hunger you have, those that are watching, will supernaturally have that jumpstart.

HEIDI: Yes. Yes. God, I ask you, Jesus, to take them in right now. I ask you, God, take them in, take them through, take them in, let them see that your blood really takes away their sin. O Lord, may they be covered in your love and your beauty, and in who you are, and may they never, ever want to leave you for a moment. I pray Jesus, my beautiful bridegroom, king and savior, invade their lives right now. Holy Spirit [speaking in tongues], Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit, my friend [speaking in tongues], Holy Spirit, fill them, fill them, fill them. Some of you need to just pull over if you’re listening in your car. Some of you need to stop what you’re doing and just yield yourself. You might want to get low right now. Bow down, lift your hands and yield your heart to God. Say Holy Spirit, fill me, fill me, fill me. I love you, Holy Spirit. I worship you, Father. I worship you, Jesus. Holy Spirit, invade my life. I want to be fully filled because you’re worthy of it all.

SID: I’m going to tell you something. There’s so much Heidi has to offer. When we go off the air, if you go to my web page, SidRoth.org/Heidi, I’m going to turn Heidi loose, and I believe that you are going to be so filled with the Holy Spirit. Go there right now, SidRoth.org/Heidi. And I pray in Yeshua’s name that your hunger has woken up like from a slumber, from asleep and you will not be satisfied with anything short of having intimacy with God, greater than Heidi. It’s available to you. You are chosen. God has selected you in Yeshua’s name. Amen.

SID: That’s called a ‘Word of Knowledge’ and I believe that this young girl is either in our studio audience or in our television audience. And that’s for you. But the thing that excites me, is may the one man show rest in peace. It’s time for the Body of Messiah to come forward for the greatest move of God’s Spirit in history.

AUDIENCE: [clapping]

SID: That’s why you’re being mentored right now.

Lady 4: Mine was a very funny vision, [speaks in tongues]. When we started praying in the Spirit, there was a hole through there. [points towards the talking set] and there was a ladder, and we started praying, and the Lord said, ‘Just continue to pray. Pray, pray, pray.’ And I started seeing a lot of people [starts crying], a lot of my friends and people that I know have said, you know, they are not going to go to heaven. They’re not going to receive the Lord. And everybody, we as we started praying in tongues, we were pulling everybody in the ladder. And as you started saying, let’s pray faster and faster, we started just going all around the world, and we were just pulling everybody out of that ladder, through the roof. It was unbelievable, and I use to work for a Jewish man, about 20 years ago. And then I opened up my eyes because I wanted to laugh, and then I saw him and you. And I was like, ‘Lord, what is that?’ He said, ‘That is Jeff. And you know he’s Jewish, and you know he’s married. But you know he has thought that he’s confused. But he’s not confused. Start praying in the Spirit for him.’ And that is the intercession that you have been doing for that man in Jesus name.

AUDIENCE: [clapping]

SID: Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. You see, praying in tongues is the ancient secret to everything in the supernatural. So you see why it’s been diminished in recent years. But, it’s changing. You know why? I was laughing in the Spirit. There were so many people all over the world from this show, that are going to be speaking in supernatural languages. Come forward, please. All of you come forward, please. Thank you.

Man 1: As Julie was playing this last time, I got lost the first time. And, I saw Jesus, and He said, ‘I’m calling you out to speak to the nations.’ And He said, ‘I’m going to give you a deeper understanding of eternal life. I’m going to give you a deeper understanding of how to present this; eternal life to the nations.’ And this afternoon, as we were waiting in line, I ministered to a couple of ladies. I took them deep into that heaven is eternal life. And He told me, ‘I’m going to teach to have a deeper understanding of how it lines up with the Spirit and the soul, and then the body comes together; all in all. And in line today; one lady who couldn’t hear now hears.

STEVE: The one that’s worse off is someone who knows the Lord but is living in sin. They’re like every day is hell. Because there’s always like this shadow around them. You know, His name is Jesus. He’s just always everywhere they go, everything they do. He’s just there. They’re always thinking about I could be better, I should, I could, I should be doing this, I should be doing that, why am I sinning, why am I doing this? That’s what a Christian goes through that’s in sin. So we’re going to pray together and ask the Lord to wash us, to cleanse us. Those of you at home, if you see a number, some information on the screen, I want you to log on, contact us, let us know what God’s doing in your heart. This is so important for you to do that. Okay? I’m amazed. We have a Bible Study on our website, just a two week Bible Study called “Serious About God.” My Lord, it’s amazing.

It’s so simple. And we had a major narcotics addict, I’m talking mainliner for years. Prayed with us over the phone a month ago. Went on that, went through the Bible Study. Well it was like two months ago now, been clean ever since. Just amazing. Just amaz… I’m amazed. But why should I be? It’s all the Word, you know. The Word cleanses. Stand everyone. Everyone I want you to pray. Those of you at home I want you to pray this out loud. Everyone here I want you to pray this out loud whether you raised your hand or you didn’t. Like I said it would be ridiculous for everyone to come forward because… because it would be ridiculous. There’s, there’s no room up here. It just doesn’t make any sense so we’re just going to all pray right where we’re at and I believe that we’re making commitments. Why don’t you pretend like you just went through a death experience like I did and you just decided that it’s all truth, righteousness and holiness from here on out. Everyone pray out loud with me right now.

[STEVE LEADS AUDIENCE IN PRAYER AS AUDIENCE REPEATS AFTER HIM PHRASE BY PHRASE]

Dear Jesus/Thank you/for speaking to me/ Thank You Jesus/for not leaving me alone/I ask you today/ to forgive me/I have sinned/I’m sorry/Wash me/Cleanse me/with Your blood/Be my Lord/Be my Savior/my very best friend/in Jesus’ name/Amen. Can we give the Lord praise right now?

AUDIENCE: Amen. (CLAPPING)

STEVE: Now before I turn it over. Brother Sid comes down with me just for a minute. I love this man of God right here. How many love this man of God right here?

AUDIENCE: Whooo. (CLAPPING)

STEVE: I love this man of God. And, um, we had an awesome prayer just a few minutes ago back there and I’m going to ask him to do something for me. I’m going to ask him to pray for me. Okay? I’m scared right now. And it has nothing to do with me. I’m fine. I always need a healing prayer, you know that, everybody, sometimes you don’t know you’re sick. Just lay hands on yourself all the time. Okay? But, um, I’m scared for what’s facing our nation, our pastors. I’m, I’m afraid for those people who decide not to follow the Lord when they hear His voice and choose to go the other way. I’m afraid for the people that hear this vision and they cry and they email me and then they turn around 6 weeks, 2 months later and decide not to do anything about it. It’s called “shelf life.” Remember the shelf life of 9/11? Or was it 9/11? Remember the shelf life? What was it? Three weeks? Churches packed out, then after a while just sort of everybody went back to normal. It’s like we have to have a terrorist attack every 2 or 3 weeks, seriously, to keep people concerned. It’s the same way with spiritual truth. They hear it and they get convicted. The devil comes along. Slips in a few lies. And off they go down into his territory. So I want you to pray for me, brother.

SANDRA: He was the New Testament! You do understand that? I mean he’s walking on a Word from Jesus. And he was not even Jewish! He’s walking back on a Word from Jesus. All the way back. And you all know the story. His servants met him, and he said, and this is another little “word,” remember, he said to him what, and they said “He’s healed.” And he asked the question “At what time did he began to “amend?” So it wasn’t instantaneous. It wasn’t instantaneous. What time?” And you know when it, when it, when they said? “The minute he received the word.” The minute he took the word. I believe. Can’t prove it. You can’t disprove it. Makes me right!

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

SANDRA: So I, I believe at the moment, at the moment that Jesus said “Go home…” and I believe, the man, I believe he had to process it a minute or two, and I believe at the moment he turned to go that that’s the moment the healing took place. When he accepted that “word” as his and moved on it. Now I’m telling you that’s what you have to do. You just need a word from the Lord. You need to step out on that word. Let Jesus be Lord. Let Him be your Healer. Take Him as your Healer. Don’t let your Body tell you whether you got it or not. Tell your Body you got it, bless God, “I got it. Jesus did this. I am healed and I’m expecting you to catch up with my spirit man.” Because healing starts on the inside, works its way to the outside. Which is a medical fact also. Starts on the inside. Works its way to the outside. And you empower it by your mouth.

You empower it. You release faith with your mouth. You empower it by simply saying thank you… “Thank you, Jesus. I thank you I’m healed.” Hand you be healed. Heart you be healed. You hear me? I’m telling you to beat correctly! In the name of Jesus! Leg, I’m telling you to move. I’m telling you you might as well get with the program. Because I’m, I’m laying the Word of God on you. And I’ve taken Him as my Healer. He cannot lie, so therefore Body, you must respond in the name of the Lord! Amen? Amen. Amen, Amen, Amen! Amen!

SANDRA: All that’s growing! See, that’s growing! And then if you can go and you begin, begin to tell that Body, Body, you listen to me. You listen to me. Maybe you couldn’t, maybe you couldn’t even move that arm. Maybe you couldn’t even move this hand. But you begin to say “Hand, listen, I got something to tell you. You are healed, Hand! You hear me?” You know, I mean people will look at you funny, but I mean they’ll look at you funny anyway! So… you know. Hand, I command in the name of Jesus, you hear me, you going to move! You know the guy in the Bible who couldn’t move His hand. You remember the guy who couldn’t move his hand? And Jesus comes up and tells him to move his hand and he moves his hand? He couldn’t move his hand before Jesus told him to move it.

He just believed what Jesus said. You remember the Nobleman’s son? Remember the guy in, in the Bible and the Nobleman obviously heard about Jesus. I constantly say if I can just get you to HEAR we can get you healed! If I can just get you to hear. If I could just knock down all the religion and all the tradition. If I can just get you to HEAR the Word of the Lord we can get you healed! Because when you HEARD how wonderful Jesus was you took Him as your Savior. When you HEAR that He is THE Healer. He is THE Great Physician. He has already done it and He’s already told you don’t forget what He did! He said don’t forget ALL of your diseases have been healed. Don’t forget it!

Remember the Nobleman’s son? Obviously the guy had heard about Jesus. He shows up with Jesus. Asks Jesus to go back to his house. You know, that his son’s there dying and wants Jesus to go back with him. And you know Jesus didn’t go back with him. Jesus just told him you go on back. He’ll be all right. Now think about it. He did not have a MP-3 player. He did not have a cassette. He did not have, you know, a, a, a, a CD player. He didn’t have an I-Pod, or I-Pad or I-anything. He didn’t have anything! And here he is walking back by himself for a, a good little distance. And all he has, this is the key word, are you listening? All he had was the Word of God. That’s all he had. He had a Word from God.

I tell people all I need is a Word from God. All I… That’s why you need to get in this Bible and let it jump out at you! So the Nobleman, the Nobleman going back all he had was “Jesus said his son was healed.” That’s all he had. Can you imagine the demonic forces that must have hit that man as he was walking back all by hisself? Again he didn’t have a scripture prayer book to read. He didn’t have a New Testament. You do know they didn’t have a New Testament? Do you, I mean do you understand that? They didn’t have a New Testament. I mean they didn’t… I mean even the disciples didn’t have a New Testament. They didn’t have a New Testament. And Jesus did not read out of the New Testament. Glory, how did they make it?

PATRICIA: I’ve seen this work in people’s finances. I was with a person a little while ago who was experiencing lack. Had been forever. You know, it was just like that was a carved out realm in their life. I mean everything was just not enough, not enough, not enough. They were behind the eight ball all the time. I sat down with them and gave them some keys out of the word of God on how they could with deliberation and intentionality walk with God to change that realm. Because is there poverty in heaven? Is there lack in heaven? Then why should we live that way in the earth?

If we’re going to model the love of God wouldn’t there be more than enough not just for our needs but to help meet the needs of others? When I began carving this realm out for myself years ago when my husband and I, um, left our full-tine secular employment, I was a full-time nurse, cardiovascular nurse. My husband, uh, was, had a very good employment position in the transport industry. And the Lord told us to leave our secular positions of, well it was still ministry, but leave our secular positions. That He was going to use us in the mission field and He says I’m going to teach you to live with no visible means of support. Now we were not to tell anyone of our needs, only God. But during that next five years we hit some very difficult times. And I mean the devil wasn’t happy about us creating out a realm of abundance. You know, he didn’t want us to live in abundance. So I think I met every demon of lack and poverty in the whole universe during that five years. Honestly. I think I know them all by name…

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

PATRICIA: But anyways, um, we just stood on the Word and wouldn’t let them in because we believed the promise of God. We thought if God said it He will make it good.  And we’re going to carve out for our self a realm of abundance because our God is not just a God of enough. He is a God of more than enough. He is a God of plenty. And so over that 5 years every day we made decrees. We praised the Lord. We learned different keys of the, the scripture teaches like on focus, on worship, on devotion, on, on, on receiving the direct word of God’s promises. All these different, uh, keys and we started implementing them. You see knowledge of a thing is not possession of it. You can know all the keys. I could teach you all the keys that the Lord’s taught me. And you could say oh, that’s nice. And you could have knowledge of it. But if you don’t act on it you won’t possess it. But if you act on it you will possess it. If you work the Word you will possess it. And we get to do that. We have that privilege.

SID: Now many of you are familiar with the Praying Medic, Dave Hayes. But for those that are not, let me give you a quick recap. Dave was a fervent atheist until he was 38, paramedic. In 2000, he became a believer in the Messiah and then strange things started happening. He started hearing God’s voice. And then he had a prophetic dream, and what did God tell you to do with your patients in the ambulance?

DAVE: He said, “I want you to pray for your patients. I’m going to show you what’s wrong with them. And if you pray for them I’ll heal them.”

SID: Now when he said this to you, I mean, you’re a new believer. You had no paradigm. Did you think like you’d be a healing evangelist, heal in the name of Jesus? What did you think?

DAVE: I was confused. I had no idea. I didn’t even believe in healing at the time. I didn’t believe in miracles. I had never seen anyone healed. In fact, my wife and I had just had an argument, disagreement a couple of weeks earlier about healing. She believed in miracles, I didn’t. And then I had the dream and God said, “I’m going to do miracles for you.” So I didn’t have a degree for it.

SID: All right. So but you did have that Jewish thing called chutzpah, nerve, except he’s not Jewish. But somehow he got some chutzpah. Let me tell you what this guy did. You never have done this. He told me he prayed for 400 people in the ambulance. How many got healed?

DAVE: None.

SID: Did you hear that? None. How many were healed, going to 401? I mean, this is in the ambulance. This is your job. You could lose your job. I’m sure all this is going on inside of you. But then tell me one of the first people that was healed and what happened.

DAVE: Well I was on the ambulance. It was a very hot day and my partner and I went into the store to get something to drink, got my Gaterade. I went to the checkout counter, and I was standing in line behind a woman. And for some reason, I looked and I closed my eyes. In my mind, I saw what I now know is a vision. I didn’t know what it was at that time. I saw a picture of this woman and I saw the word “migraines” underneath her.

SID: This written out over this picture. Had you ever seen this woman before?

DAVE: No, never saw her before.

SID: Okay.

DAVE: Never had any experience like that.

SID: Okay.

DAVE: So I just thought, okay well God must be telling me she has migraine headaches because he wants me to pray for her. So all of a sudden, I got this boost of confidence, of faith and I said, “Hey, I’m Dave, I’m a paramedic. Do you have migraine headaches?” And she starts crying. And I said, “What’s wrong?” She goes, “Yes, I have migraines and how did you know that?” I said, “God told me and I think he wants me to pray for you so you can be healed.” So I prayed for her. Headache was completely gone, she’s crying, and she said, “You don’t understand what happened. I have had migraines for years. This morning I woke up with another headache and I asked God, when are you going to heal me, and then you showed up at the store.” And she got healed. And I got a testimony from her, I contacted her months later, she had never had any more migraines.

SID: This is just the beginning. He gets so many people healed. He’s a paramedic in an ambulance. He gets so many people healed after that. But you begged a question with me. So why weren’t the first 400 healed? You had a dream from God?

DAVE: Right.

SID: Why?

DAVE: Because I didn’t know how to release power and how to exercise authority. I just thought I could beg God to heal somebody and they would be healed. That’s what I did for the first two or three months. I would very quietly have a patient on the gurney, oh Lord, if it’s your will, please heal them, in a quiet voice so no one could hear me. Did that for a few months, no one got healed. And I started learning about, reading through the scriptures, reading through the New Testament, seeing how Jesus healed people and the disciples healed people. Then I realized it’s about authority, the authority that God has given us and releasing the power, the power of the Holy Spirit that lives in us. Once I understood it was about releasing power and exercising authority, I started seeing people healed all the time.

SID: Tell me one of the most recent healings you’ve had. I’d like to hear.

DAVE: Are you talking about the one at the conference?

SID: Right.

DAVE: So I was at a conference in Tacoma, last year, and this woman tracked me down and said, “Praying Medic, can you pray for me. I need to be healed.” And I said, “Yes, I’ll be happy to pray for you.” She knew me. She was a friend of mine. We emailed each other. I had prayed for her to be healed of emotional trauma from sexual abuse as a child and she had already been healed of that. She had emphysema, she had circulatory problems, her feet were purple. She had heart problems, thyroid problems. She had a long list of problems. So I prayed for her for about ten minutes and I knew I wasn’t going to have enough time to get everything healed. So as I was praying I felt like the Lord told me, “Tell her you’re going to send angels to follow her around at home when she leaves the conference.” So I did that. I said, “Look, I believe the Lord wants me to tell you that we’re going to have angels follow you around for the rest of the week, after you leave the conference.”

SID: Now that’s a pretty wild statement for someone to make.

DAVE: Yes. Look, I try to be obedient and it just requires sometimes taking a leap of faith. So I had never heard the Lord say that before. So I told her that and then I went back to the conference. She emailed me a couple of weeks later and said, “You’re not going to believe what happened. First of all, the next day the purple skin on my feet turned normal color.” Everybody noticed that my circulation cleared up. She went to an appointment that week and they noticed that her breathing was normal. She wasn’t huffing and puffing, and wheezing like she had been. And she said, “But the most amazing thing was the Wednesday after I went home, I was going to sleep that night, I laid down in bed, and as I was laying in bed, I saw an angel standing next to my bed and it was dumping oil over me.” And she said, “My breathing is better, all my health conditions are going away. She has continued to heal over the last few months. She’s continuing to, the healing is continuing and she’s giving me updates on each condition as it’s being healed. I believe those angels are still releasing healing on her.

SID: You know, many years ago, as a new believer, I saw Dr. Kenneth Hagin who is now in Heaven, minister great miracles. Then I heard him teach on how we could do it, and I said to myself, you can’t teach a gift. A gift is a gift. You hear from God. You can’t teach others to hear from God, or can you?

DAVE: Yes, you can and yes, I do. I do not believe what a lot people believe about prophecy, about hearing from God, seeing visions, all those angelic experiences. Those are experiences anyone can have. If an atheist like me can do those things, I’m not special, I don’t have a special anointing, God has specifically told me, “I want you to teach my people how to operate in the supernatural, how to hear my voice, how to see visions, how to release healing.” And that’s what my books are about. That’s what I do.

SID: Every believer can operate in all these arenas you operate in.

DAVE: Everyone who wants to and who is willing to practice can do it. One of the most frequent comments I get from people who have read my book on hearing God’s voice is, wow, I read your book and I realized I was hearing God. He was speaking to me the whole time. I just never recognized it was him speaking.

SID: When you come back, Dave says if you do two things consistently you will hear God’s voice. You will hear God’s voice all the time. Be right back.

SID: Julie, why do you get so excited, and you do, about singing the Word of God?

JULIE: I get excited because I love seeing people free. I love seeing people excited about reading and singing, and retaining the Word of God. It’s life-changing and they can literally stir themselves up, just like David did, by singing the Bible.

SID: You told me that you’ve identified three ways of singing the Bible. Explain.

JULIE: Well this is how I’ve always sang the Word. Since 1983, this has been a part of my life. And I just take one or two scriptures. It’s easiest if you use Psalms. They’re already songs and prayers. So I just, the first way is I just sing it straight through, word for word. And then I sing it through again, but I turn it into my own prayer, and I pray it as if it’s my prayer. And this is powerful because what happens is you’re not just reading about David’s encounter with God, but suddenly when you pray it as if it’s your prayer, it’s your prayer. It’s your encounter, not just David’s. And the third way I sing it is I sing the other side of it like God was singing over me and I literally put my name in it. I’ve healed you, Julie. You’re free now, Julie. And I sing the Word because it is the truth of what God says. It’s his word.

SID: And not only that, Julie has been healed. It’s wonderful that others are healed through singing the scriptures. It’s wonderful that when she sings over people they get healed. But Julie finds she’s been emotionally healed, physically healed just by singing the scriptures. Tell me one thing.

JULIE: Well I used to hate me. I used to hate my voice, my nose. I wanted to sing like Olivia Newton-John. And I went to the House of Prayer. This was in 2000. So I love Jesus, but in 2000, my friend said, “For the next two hours you are going to sing one thing: ‘Song of Solomon 1:5, I am dark but lovely,'” which means, in my weakness he says I’m beautiful. In my brokenness he still pursues me. And somewhere in the midst of that two hours and went in not liking me. But suddenly, because I had that helmet on and my lobes weren’t letting all the negativity get in, my thoughts were replaced totally by God’s thoughts about me. In a two-hour session I changed and I love me!

SID: I have here the brand new Supernatural Bible and I’ve asked her to sing Isaiah 53 and I proclaim that you will be healed as she sings this over you. But I have two commentaries in the Supernatural Bible. First is by Dr. Michael Brown, proving why Isaiah 53 could only be talking about Jesus as the Messiah, and then I have a commentary here on the same chapter by Sandra Kennedy, proving that Jesus died for all of our sins and all of our sicknesses and diseases. Julie.

JULIE: I’m going to take that. I love to people to sing, sing the Bible. So can I get you to stand.

Julie Meyer [playing background piano music]: And I’m going to sing this like a prayer and I’m going to sing a line, and then I’m going to have you sing after me because what’s key about singing the scriptures is your ears need to hear the sound of you, and this helps you be able to do it at home. [singing] You have born my sickness.