Sid Roth

JOHN: Everybody has secrets in their life. How many of you know all secrets aren’t bad? Okay? So your mind went to the negative on that one. Okay?

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

 JOHN: All right, so let me ask again how many of you got secrets in your life? Everybody’s got secrets. All right. Now this is, this is, I want you to honestly answer this question: Who do you share your secrets with and I’m going to give you two choices. Choice Number One, okay: acquaintances? Choice Number Two: intimate close friends?

AUDIENCE: Close friend, intimate close friends.

JOHN: Intimate close friends. God’s no different. God says I share My secrets with My intimate close friends and by the way My intimate close friends are those who fear Me. Now let me show you I’m not taking this out of context. I’m going to read Psalm 25:14 same psalm out of the New Living Translation: “Friendship with the Lord is reserved for those who fear Him.” So you know what God is saying right there? Not everybody is My friend. Let me be more specific: not everybody in the church is My friend.

AUDIENCE: Right.

 JOHN: Okay? There were two men that were called the friend of God in the Old Testament. Okay? Who were the two men? Abraham and Moses. Were there others? Absolutely! Okay, I believe David was a friend of God, I believe Daniel was a friend of God, I believe Joseph was a friend of God, many others, Deborah, Esther. But these two men’s lives exemplified what it took to have a relationship of friendship with the Lord. Let’s talk about the first guy, Abraham. Why is Abraham called the friend of God? Because when Abraham was really old, one night God comes to him and says, “Abe?” “Yes, Lord, yes.” I want you to take your son who you really love, who you’ve really grown attached to, the son you’ve waited for for 25 years. And I want you to go on a three-day journey and kill him for Me.

Now, okay, you’ve heard the story a thousand times, okay, if not, if not more. But you had the Book of Genesis to read, he didn’t. You have to understand all God says to him this night is I want you to go three days and kill Isaac. He doesn’t tell him why. He doesn’t say if you sacrifice Isaac then I’ll send My Son. He does not say that! Do you understand what God is asking him to do? It would have been easier for Abraham to go kill himself, because there was nothing or no one more important to Abraham than Isaac. Yet do you know what my Bible says? Early the next morning Abraham saddles his donkey and is on his way. You know how some people say, “Well, you know the Lord’s been dealing with me about this now for several months” and they laugh.

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

JOHN: You are bragging about your lack of the fear of God. Okay? Okay? So now God gives him a three day journey. Why? To think it over. It’s easier when you heard the booming voice of God the night before. But what about three, two and a half days later, you haven’t heard one word from heaven and you’re looking at the mountain, you’re going to put the most important person or thing to death in your life just because God said do it and didn’t give you a reason to do it. But Abraham goes to the top of the mountain, he builds the altar. Can you imagine his emotions while he’s building that altar? And his son’s helping him build it. He ties up Isaac on that altar, he lifts up the knife and he’s ready to put the most important person or thing to death in his life just because God said do it and didn’t give him a reason.

And right as he’s ready to thrust the knife through Isaac, an angel of the Lord appears, and you go read it in your own Bible, and the angel says “Abraham stop, because now I know you fear God? How did the angel know that Abraham feared God? Because he obeyed instantly, because he obeyed when it didn’t make sense, because he obeyed when it hurt, because he obeyed when he didn’t see a benefit, and because he obeyed to completion. Abraham puts down the knife, unties Isaac, lifts up his eyes and there’s a ram caught in the thicket. And out of his inside comes this: JEHOVAH JIREH! The Lord my Provider! Now you’ve heard that before because you’ve read the Bible. But wait a minute. God just revealed a facet of His personality to Abraham no human being had ever known before. Why? Because he’s my friend.

SID: You saw millions of people that have bought lies while in Earth that were churchgoers in Hell. What was the cause?

IVAN: Sid, one of the biggest causes are that people believe that all you have to do is just do one little thing, to accept Jesus—

SID: Say a prayer…

IVAN: Right. Then you can do whatever you want in life. And that’s not true. You can’t do that. There’s—

SID: What about the current teaching that says, well, once you’ve accepted the Lord, his grace takes care of past, present and future sins? There’s nothing you have to do about it.

IVAN: That’s not in the Bible.

SID: Of course not.

IVAN: Not only is it not in the Bible, that’s sending so many people to Hell it’s unreal. You would be surprised. Listen, you can’t just say, okay, once you do it, that’s it. Because it tells you in the Bible, certain people, certain things you can’t enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I don’t care who you are. You can’t. It doesn’t matter if you’re telling little lies and you think, “Oh, I’m okay. Just a little white lies.” No, there’s still problems. You have to daily just say, I do every day before I go to sleep, Lord, just forgive me of anything. I just do that on a daily basis. In fact, if I catch myself doing something wrong, I instantly want to correct that because I’ve been there. I don’t want to go back there. I don’t want anybody to ever go there.

SID: You saw some things that will be helpful to us. You saw demons going back and forth from Hell to [earth], to deceive. Tell me about that. Especially children.

IVAN: That deception was so bad. The deception started … There was a couple of things … One was video games, and this was before video games were invented. The demons were going up there and getting into these games to distort young people’s minds. Not only that, the demons were also, they’re going back and forth from Hell, from the center of Hell where Lucifer was at and going back up to the Earth so that they could get to the Earth and deceive these people. They would enter into people’s bodies. They would usually would find somebody that was very handsome or a very beautiful woman or a handsome man, and they would enter that body. They would use that person to deceive as many people as they could, especially lukewarm Christians or warmed up Christians. They would try to deceive them, to take them out, do immoral things with them, et cetera. That’s what was happening. That was what was going on. I saw that in 1978. I watched it happen.

SID: What would you say was the worst thing you saw in Hell?

IVAN: Wow. Everything was the worst thing.

SID: Did people really … I have a question about that. Do people really feel pain?

IVAN: Yes.

SID: I mean like physical pain in Hell?

IVAN: Ah, Sid, the pain in Hell is much worse than on Earth. You see, when you get a splinter or a cut, you feel it one little area. But when you are in the spirit, which you’re in the spirit in Hell, when you’re down there, that pain goes through your whole body. So every bite mark that the demons put on you, every scratch that they do to you, everything they poke into you, it hurts in your whole being. Sid, you can’t pass out. In the flesh if you get in a lot of pain, you can just pass out. You can’t do that. It never ends. See, this is the thing. It never ever ends. It’s always there. It’s always going to keep continuing. It never goes away.

I see a lot of people I’ve laid hands on and I don’t see results. And it’s heartbreaking cause you care about people. But to just be real with you, you’ve got to press through the struggle and keep giving the burden to Jesus, not just carrying it for yourself. That’s Biblical. “Cast your burdens on Him for He cares for you.” It would be sin for me to carry the emotional weight of that but I still have to take responsibility and ask the Lord to change me. But now here we go. People ask me why don’t you just go and empty out a hospital? That’s a valid question and I tell them that. That’s a very fair question too. Cause they say if I could do what you could do I’d be at the hospital. I’d empty it out. And I’m like God bless you, you can do what I can do. Go to the hospital and empty it out!    

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

ART: Now the truth is I’m just one guy. Okay? Now we know the logistical problems. What hospital is going to let some random guy walk in and lay hands on every person in every bed? But if that was allowed logistically I’m just one guy. I would burn myself out. And honestly when would I meet your expectation? Because even if I did go in a hospital and empty it out you’d say why don’t you go to the next hospital? When would I ever satisfy your demands when the truth is I’ve got a calling and a mission on my life to train and equip the Church to do the same things which is even better because then all of you go in His name and now there’s millions of Jesus-like ministers of healing who can empty out hospitals because it’s not too much of a burden on one person.

And here’s the beauty of this. The Pool of Bethesda, when you look on a map of Jerusalem, it’s just outside the Sheep Gate and just inside the Sheep Gate is Solomon’s Colonnade. Acts chapter 5: “Every single person who was brought to the believers was healed.” And remember John chapter 5, it said “Here a number of sick and injured people used to lie.” Why didn’t they lay there anymore? The Bible doesn’t expressly say it but I’d better believe if there’s a whole bunch of sick people laying there and somebody goes Hey, just the other side of this gate everybody’s getting healed. Guess what? Carry me, buddy! Get me over there! Right? I’m not sticking around here waiting for some angel that may never show up. It’s working over there.

AUDIENCE: Right! (LAUGHTER)  ART: Those Christians were clearing out the sick from Jerusalem. And that’s what I want to see. That’s my vision for the Church. See we are the body of Jesus in this world. Everyone who touched Jesus” body was healed. And now you’re His body. Yes, physically He is in heaven at the right hand of the Father and He does have a physical body there but practically speaking according to First Corinthians 12 and Romans 12, various other scriptures, Ephesians 4, we are His body in this earth. I like to say that a head doesn’t just get from Point A to Point B on its own. Fair? Jesus has permanently submitted Himself to relationship with you. You see Jesus could appear to every single person on the planet right now at the drop of a hat and preach the gospel to ‘em! But He doesn’t. Why? Because He commissioned you. Jesus could snap his fingers and heal every single person on the planet! But He doesn’t. Why? Because He commissioned you. That’s the beauty of following this Jesus. He’s the one who paid for it. He’s the one who wants it. And I guarantee He will do His work. It’s inevitable.

SID: You’re not talking about storing up food or water. What are you talking about?

JAMES: I’m talking about that we need to become mentally tough, so that whatever circumstance comes, we can stand. As Paul said, when you’ve done everything to stand, stand. We’re going to become that kind of resilient followers of Jesus when we’re really prepared. The second part of that was that we need to have spiritual resilience, because things are going to happen in the spirit so quickly, that if we can’t move with the Lord, we’re going to be left behind. We’re going to be lost. So we need to right now build that kind of resilience that we can stand, no matter what, keep the spirit strong, stand on faith, and believe in the Lord, and trust him that he will be with us and take care of us.

SID: And what would you say to someone that says, “Well, all that is true, but we’ve got 50, 100 years. I’m not going to fool with that right now.”

JAMES: There are people who say that, and my concern is that they’re not discerning well enough in the spirit, and they need a gift of spiritual discernment, because everything I see in Jesus’ teachings about the last days is, they could come right now. It could happen today. It could happen tomorrow. It may be 100 years. If so, hallelujah, we’ll live with it and we’ll expect another day, but it could be today.

If I really believe and understand that, and I do, then I need to be ready every day, every moment of every day, to meet him when he does return. And so I believe that it’s imperative that we must prepare. A lot of people have gotten tired, tired of the messages about it. They’ve heard things over and over again, and it seemed like nothing manifested. I’m just believing, and Jesus told me, “Tell people, don’t give up. Don’t get tired. Don’t waiver, but hold to what I have taught you, and hold to the notion that it might happen any minute.”

SID: Well, Jesus says, “No man knows the day or hour.” Jesus told you, “You better tell people to be prepared.” James says special doors to heaven are being demonically blocked to prevent answers to your prayers. When we come back, James will share how you can have heaven open for all your prayers. For all of them.

SID: James, recently, you had an open heaven vision.

JAMES: Yes, I have. And it’s a vision similar to some I’ve had in the past, but this was very recent. And when I talk about open heaven, I’m not seeing something like rectangular shaped doors or windows, but I see like a round opening, almost like it goes through the clouds, and then heaven is opened up. And in this vision, I was kind of hovering in space and looking at the open… There were several of these, I call them portals instead of doors. There were several portals that were open into heaven, and it was my desire to go through one of those portals and spend some time with Jesus. That’s one of my favorite pastimes, is to spend time with Jesus. But as I looked up at these portals, dark clouds started covering over the openings of almost all of them. And the clouds would move, but then another dark cloud would come in and cover it up.

 JOHN: Okay? There were two men that were called the friend of God in the Old Testament. Okay? Who were the two men? Abraham and Moses. Were there others? Absolutely! Okay, I believe David was a friend of God, I believe Daniel was a friend of God, I believe Joseph was a friend of God, many others, Deborah, Esther. But these two men’s lives exemplified what it took to have a relationship of friendship with the Lord. Let’s talk about the first guy, Abraham. Why is Abraham called the friend of God? Because when Abraham was really old, one night God comes to him and says, “Abe?” “Yes, Lord, yes.” I want you to take your son who you really love, who you’ve really grown attached to, the son you’ve waited for for 25 years.

And I want you to go on a three-day journey and kill him for Me. Now, okay, you’ve heard the story a thousand times, okay, if not, if not more. But you had the Book of Genesis to read, he didn’t. You have to understand all God says to him this night is I want you to go three days and kill Isaac. He doesn’t tell him why. He doesn’t say if you sacrifice Isaac then I’ll send My Son. He does not say that! Do you understand what God is asking him to do? It would have been easier for Abraham to go kill himself, because there was nothing or no one more important to Abraham than Isaac. Yet do you know what my Bible says? Early the next morning Abraham saddles his donkey and is on his way. You know how some people say, “Well, you know the Lord’s been dealing with me about this now for several months” and they laugh.

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

JOHN: You are bragging about your lack of the fear of God. Okay? Okay? So now God gives him a three day journey. Why? To think it over. It’s easier when you heard the booming voice of God the night before. But what about three, two and a half days later, you haven’t heard one word from heaven and you’re looking at the mountain, you’re going to put the most important person or thing to death in your life just because God said do it and didn’t give you a reason to do it. But Abraham goes to the top of the mountain, he builds the altar. Can you imagine his emotions while he’s building that altar? And his son’s helping him build it. He ties up Isaac on that altar, he lifts up the knife and he’s ready to put the most important person or thing to death in his life just because God said do it and didn’t give him a reason.

And right as he’s ready to thrust the knife through Isaac, an angel of the Lord appears, and you go read it in your own Bible, and the angel says “Abraham stop, because now I know you fear God? How did the angel know that Abraham feared God? Because he obeyed instantly, because he obeyed when it didn’t make sense, because he obeyed when it hurt, because he obeyed when he didn’t see a benefit, and because he obeyed to completion. Abraham puts down the knife, unties Isaac, lifts up his eyes and there’s a ram caught in the thicket. And out of his inside comes this: JEHOVAH JIREH! The Lord my Provider! Now you’ve heard that before because you’ve read the Bible. But wait a minute. God just revealed a facet of His personality to Abraham no human being had ever known before. Why? Because he’s my friend.

GUILLERMO: Let’s do this, let’s do this? Can you stretch your hands, let’s pray for Sid. How many of you here don’t speak in other tongues? I want you to stand if you don’t speak in tongues, and both hands, put your hands up if you don’t speak in tongues, both hands, both hands, come quickly. If you don’t speak in tongues. Uh, give him the combo, uh, you pray for her, she can get the combo, the healing, and the tongues, and the deliverance, the whole thing. Okay. You need— you don’t speak in tongues? Okay, how many of you don’t speak in other tongues? I want somebody of you, any of you get close to the people and pray for them, please for those people. Now stretch your hands toward Sid. And the Holy Spirit spoke to me— Ryan can you come up also and receive or you need to be busy? Thank you, Jesus.

The presence of God is here. And I want, I want to release a fresh impartation. Sid, on the power of the resurrection, I want you to be and be bold like a lion and demonstrate it, and pray for the people. And let’s believe for bones to come alive, organs to come alive, dreams to come alive. I want you to start praying out loud in the Holy Ghost. One, two, three! Pray in the Holy Ghost. Father, in the name of Jesus, I pray right now for an impartation of the power of the resurrection! The power of the resurrection, Father, come upon Ryan, come upon Sid and when I count to 3, the fresh infilling of the power of the resurrection. I release it upon their hands, I release it upon their mouth, and when they pray for organs and the organs come alive, miracle signs and wonders be activated.

If there are more pastors here, pastors come up here. There are pastors here. I want you to stand here. Pastors, come up here, stand here. Organize, organize here please, one line, one line, one line, one line, please, come over here, come over here. (prays in tongues) C’mon, pray in the Holy Ghost, people (prays in tongues) I need somebody behind them, please, help me here, please. I need you to help me behind them, please. C’mon hurry up, help me, help me pastors. C’mon pastor, pray in the Holy Ghost. It is not enough being filled in Spirit one time. You need receive fresh impartation, and the Holy Spirit is releasing fresh impartation of the power of the resurrection! When I count to 3, you receive that quickening in your spirit, quicken your body. Father, I release fresh impartation of the power of the resurrection. One— there you go, there you go, it’s over him— two— three— three, power, power, power, power, power, power, power, power, power in Jesus” name. Jesus. There you go. There you go. C’mon, pray in the Holy Ghost, pray in the Holy Ghost, pray in the Holy Ghost.

GUILLERMO: That was a very nice message, praise Jesus. But you going to the same pills, to take the same pills every day because you got depression. So it doesn’t change anything. So the word without the spirit the letters kills. The scripture is not a magical book that you read it and something happens. If the breath of the Spirit is not there nothing will happen. In church today, Jesus said: Pharisees you err in the scripture and the power of God. They knew the scriptures, they knew the scriptures, they knew Hebrew, they knew it, but the thing is they knew the Torah but they didn’t have revelation. They didn’t have revelation. There are some things there that only the Holy Spirit will give you the breath and the understanding, you will be floated with revelation with lights when it comes to you and then when you speak your words are alive. I can tell you testimonies after testimonies of dramatic transformation of the heart, people that come, thousands of young people coming into the altar bringing guns and weeds and marijuana and throwing them on the altar— they’re weeping and crying, conviction of the Holy Spirit. It’s not just the letter. The letter kills but people are very satisfied, “oh, that’s a nice, great message” but you [are] depressed. So what’s my point? My point is to move in the supernatural you must have an expectation for the supernatural. I wish I could hear an “amen” over here!

AUDIENCE: Amen. (CLAPPING)

GUILLERMO: You must have an expectation. If you came into the studio, you must have an expectation. Well pastor, but this is not, but we don’t have the choir, we don’t have— I know how to work miracles in raw authority. I don’t have to have the big choir. We go into the crusades all over the world, in Spanish, in India, Africa and all those countries. And sometimes I don’t have any choir, I don’t have any musicians, it’s just me, and I operate in miracles because when you’ve got the revelation you can work miracles anywhere in the world. So number one, lift your hands and say, “expectation for the supernatural.”

AUDIENCE: Expectation for the supernatural

GUILLERMO: You need to say it better than that. C’mon— go on—

AUDIENCE: Expectation for the supernatural

GUILLERMO: C’mon— You need to have an expectation. Most of the church, when you go to a restaurant what do you spend? You get into the restaurant and you go: (slowly) “Hallelujah—” You go to eat! (laughter) When you come to church you just say: “In Jesus name something supernatural will happen!” Let me tell you, can I tell you this? And this will challenge the normal, the regular church in America. Why? Because so many people say, “how was the service?” It was great! NO! If nothing supernatural happened God was not in it. Because something supernatural must happen. Somebody get filled with the spirit, somebody get healed, somebody get touched, something was transformed, a marriage was restored, something happened.

So whenever you move in the supernatural you must expect the supernatural. Number two, to move in the supernatural you must respond to the supernatural. I’ve been in places where the multitude of people, 10 thousand, 15 thousand, and I just see 2, 3 people getting delivered, healed. And I said, “God, what happened?” And the Lord said only 1 person responded— any manifestation that comes from heaven if you don’t respond— it goes back to heaven. I have seen miracles, and after miracles. Only the people that respond, and we’ve been in a society that we’ve been educated not to respond.

SID: She called me and booked me to be a guest on her show. I got to meet her, and after I met her, she said to me, Larry, “I wish you would move to Pittsburgh.” That’s where she was based at the time, although I did this in California. “I wish you would move to Pittsburgh. I’d like to personally mentor you.” And candidly, I thought I made the biggest mistake of my life. But you know what? I didn’t realize it at the time, but what I did was God. Why? Because had I moved into an anointing like hers, I would never have been able to platform the best of the best of God’s servants that operate in every phase of the supernatural. And that was my destiny. God knew it.

SID: But I have to tell you a funny story. I had started a messianic Jewish congregation that time. It was my job to give a message. And when I’d give a message, I would pray for the sick. And do you know Larry? I prayed, not an exaggeration, maybe for 1000 people. And the only thing that happened is one person died.

LARRY: Oh no.

SID: Nobody got [healed]. The elders had a meeting as to whether they should stop me from doing this. But you know what, there’s something in me. It’s God. I would not give up. I would not quit.

LARRY: That’s one of the keys. I look back to the things that set you up for what you’re doing now. People know Sid Roth, the TV host, or even remember when Sid Roth was on radio, but there were supernatural keys. I can think of three of them that really positioned you to be pushed. I love the language that you use. It’s not like you said, “God, I want to go into radio or TV.” You were pushed into it.

SID: I didn’t even want to do these things. I always … I never wanted to be behind a microphone, Larry. What happened was I volunteered for a messianic Jewish ministry and he did a radio broadcast. And I said, “I’ll be on the business side.” And he said, “No, I want you to be the announcer.” “Nah, I don’t want to.” He forced me to be the announcer. And then every show, it was amazing. Something would happen. He’d get sick, or be taken out of town. I had to host and I found out, kicking and screaming I might add, that I had a gift in this.

LARRY: Yes.

SID: And then TV. I wasn’t looking for TV. I was happy with radio. I get phone call from a Jewish believer in Canada. And she says, “Sid, I’ve just deposited $25,000 in an account with 100 Huntley Street, Crossroads Communication in Canada. And you can start your TV show. Goodbye.” Boom. So I got into TV.

LARRY: Wow.

SID: I have been pushed into everything I’ve ever done.

LARRY: Well, and you know, I think of some of those keys. Like you were talking about never giving up. You kept going. But Sid, there’s two other things I can think of. Praying in tongues was another big one.

JOHNNY: And part of what He wants to do, in order just to prove this to you who are watching right now, He’s going to release signs and wonders on your physical body, and there’s going to be seven specific ones, and we’re going to do this real quickly. And so remember this, don’t forget the signs, as we go into it. Because sometimes when you feel the signs, it can be disconcerting, but we’re just going to go through them right now. I’m going to blow the shofar at the end. It’s going to activate the signs.

SID: Do many people receive in their physical body when you pray or blow the shofar?

JOHNNY: Always, a high percentage.

SID: Well, I’m going to do this one.

JOHNNY: And there is, for whatever reason, some feel it later in the day or in the night they wake up. And so for instance, one of the signs I’m going to give you, if you have a call, a call to creativity, mountain of arts and entertainment, creative call, when I blow the shofar, your left arm is going to go numb. I don’t mean pretend numb. I mean numb. Or the other sign, it’ll begin to involuntarily, not you doing it, involuntarily start shaking. It’ll be something where you know. See, this is about God telling you. This is better than a prophetic word. So that’s sign number one, arts and entertainment, left-hand arm.

JOHNNY: Right arm, mountain of economy. If you feel a hand on your head, and I’m telling you a hand on your head, this has happened to thousands, a hand on your head means you have a call to the mountain of government. And it doesn’t mean you’re called to be the president of whatever. God will make it clear if you’re called to be the candidate or the intercessor or the friend or the financer for something there. But it means you have an important assignment on the mountain of government, a hand on the head.

JOHNNY: If you feel your eyelids flutter … You can’t even make that stuff up. It has to be real. Your eyelids start fluttering means mountain of education. You have an assignment, mountain of education. A sign of a tear will be that the Lord has put one of his tears … You’ll probably feel something in your heart first. He is calling you to the mountain of family, and He’s given you the next measure, the next level of compassion, and the tear he puts in your heart will come out of your eye. You won’t even think about it. It’s happening right now to some of you.

JOHNNY: If your feet begin to go numb or go hot, or it starts coming up your legs, the main thing is you know it’s supernatural. That’ll be a call to the mountain of media, to be a kingdom communicator, to carry the spirit of good news. And then finally, if he wants to confirm, hey, doing the ministry thing you’re doing, pastor, mountain of religion type stuff you’re doing, the sign will be joy.

JOHNNY: So out there, if we could see everybody, there’s going to be people weeping and there’s going to be people laughing, and there are going to be these signs and this is going to be activated now. If you just hold your hands out and say, “Lord, I receive whatever sign and wonder you want to release.”

JOHNNY: This is him speaking to you.

JOHNNY: Thank you, Lord.

JOHNNY: Thank you, Lord. Just receive it for a moment. Whoa, it’s hard to stop that. Just receive it for a moment. Thank you, Lord, for releasing these signs in Jesus.

SID: My guest, Jon Hamill has such a unique call and situation in Washington, D.C. It sounds like your location is so picked by God, is strategic.

JON: It is remarkable. In fact, it came by a vision. And we’re on the 21st floor of a condominium that overlooks all of Washington, D.C. There’s very few places, even in D.C. where you can actually see the White House. We can see the White House. We can see the Capitol. We can even see the Supreme Court, as well as all the monuments.

SID: You have so many stories of what God has shown you about the political environment in the US and the world for that matter. But you also have relationships with very strategic people and you can piece all this stuff together. I think it’s fascinating. Sometimes I bet you feel like you’re a detective.

JON: I do. To be behind the scenes and behind the veil at the same time is an honor. And it’s sometimes a little overwhelming, but we’ve seen some of the most extraordinary turnarounds, I believe, in modern American history.
SID: We’re going to talk about some of them, but in 2014, you heard a most important term. It really is the story of your life and your purpose. You heard the word turnaround. Tell me the context.

JON: Yes sir. We’re praying over Washington, D.C. from our perch and the Holy Spirit spoke to me about the turnaround he wanted to bring to the United States of America and to the US government. And he gave me a chapter from the book of Daniel. In Daniel 7:22, he sees a picture of the Court of Heaven. The Ancient of Days takes his seat and judgment is rendered in favor of the saints. We felt like the Lord was quickening to us, just to call it the turnaround verdict, Daniel 7:22, judgment in favor of the saints, restraining the enemy, releasing the saints to possess the kingdom.
SID: Now, why were you in Jerusalem during the election?
JON: Yeah, of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
SID: What year was that?
JON: That was 2015. We had been invited to go to Jerusalem just to spend some downtime with a friend who has a place that overlooks all of Mount Zion. And we were praying on when to go. And the Holy Spirit spoke to go and represent the body of Christ in Jerusalem. The former administration was really coming against Prime Minister Netanyahu, even sent its top political operative to work for Netanyahu’s opposition to topple Netanyahu. And we really felt that Washington, D.C. has no right to rule Jerusalem or rule Israel, that’s God’s covenant land. It’s the throne—only place on earth where God says, “This is my throne.” And so we went for the final 10 days of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s election with this Daniel 7:22 verdict. And I got to tell you, the folks that we are friends with, they said, “This is the greatest thing I’ve ever heard, except there’s no way it’s going to happen because there’s too much pressure on Israel to acquiesce to the administration.”
SID: The United States administration?
JON: Yes.
SID: The Obama administration.
JON: The Obama administration, that’s correct.
SID: Isn’t that awful that our United States President sent people to overturn an election in Israel?

JON: It is awful. It’s horrific. And of course, Prime Minister Netanyahu was standing against President Obama’s nuclear accords with Iran and which we perceived to be a covenant with death itself. And so we really felt like God wanted to bring a turnaround, but the ground zero of it wasn’t the White House. Even before the White House, it was Jerusalem in Israel. And he quickened into us that the same verdict that shifted the American political world, he was employing to shift Jerusalem and to shift Israel.