Sid Roth

DAVID: Well, it all begins with oneness with the Holy Spirit. First Corinthians chapter six, verse 17 says, “He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit with him.” When I pray, I’m not praying to connect with God. I’m praying from connection with God. I pray from that confident place, knowing that I already have his ear. I tell people, “Imagine how much time you could save, if instead of begging God to hear you, you simply believe that he already did.” Jesus began by saying, “Our father who art in heaven.” Not, “God, please hear me.” He came from this place of confidence. That confidence being that oneness. That oneness coming from surrender. People often ask me, “How do I get more of the Holy Spirit?” And I tell them, “The good news is you can’t get more of the Holy Spirit because all he is or ever shall be dwells in fullness the moment you receive Christ as savior.”

DAVID: And so it’s not a matter of me getting more of the Holy Spirit. It’s a matter of the Holy Spirit getting more of me. Surrendering to that One as John 3:30, I must decrease, but he must increase, allowing him to overtake every aspect of my being. I think of Enoch. And the scripture says Enoch walked with God and he was not for God took him.

SID: Is that going to happen to you?

DAVID: I say, yes. I said, Lord, I want to be a was-not. I want to be a tear in the fabric of time and space to which he turned into Himself and step into the creation. I want to be that empty place, that portal, that carrier of the glory. The lack of something that allows the Holy Spirit to fill. We often say, “I want to be filled with the Holy Spirit.” But the Holy Spirit cannot fill someone who is full of themselves. And so as we empty ourselves and say, “God, fill me and take over every aspect of who I am. I want you to take over everything to where my presence becomes your presence.”

DAVID: Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Look throughout all the scripture. And very rarely do you see the Holy Spirit revealed in physical form. That’s because you and I are the physical manifestation of the Holy Spirit’s presence. You don’t have to go looking for an atmosphere when you are an atmosphere. You don’t have to go seeking his presence, when you carry that presence. I am an atmosphere of heaven. I am a carrier of the glory. When you walk into rooms, demons start to tremble. When you walk into rooms, sickness starts to lose its grip on physical bodies, because of that oneness with his presence that flows with who he is living in, that rhythm of heaven saying, “Holy Spirit, take all of me.”

SID: Give me an example, you had ministered, the lady with paralysis.

DAVID: Well, there’s something that the Holy Spirit’s been doing in our ministry. And while we see many miracles, I’ve told you, we see a lot of paralysis healed for some reason. And so I was ministering on the East Coast. And I remember—

SID: Jesus saw a lot of paralysis healed.

DAVID: Yes, sir.

SID: So why should we?

DAVID: I like to say, there’s not something special about me. There’s someone special about me. That’s the Holy Spirit. And so it’s his work. And so I remember I was ministering on the East Coast and I’m walking into the church through the foyer. I’m walking past joyful greeters as they welcomed me into the church. And I’m shaking hands with different people. But one woman caught my eye. She was leaning on her cane and I can tell that she was struggling to move about the foyer. And she reached out to shake my hand. I remember seeing such joy on her face. It was like, it hadn’t even phased her. She was ready for a miracle. She was in the place of faith.

KATIE: Yeah. See, it’s like we’re building a divine protection, a divine canopy of protection against the enemy.

SID: ….the grace can’t come in if you don’t repent.

KATIE: That’s right. You have to do grace and repentance. There’s a scripture in Matthew 5:4 that talks about when. We will receive and be refreshed by God’s grace when we mourn over our sins and repent. Our repentance releases grace.

So when we repent of our sins, it dismisses our law-breaking. When we release grace, it causes this Holy Spirit bubble to come around us that the enemy cannot penetrate. So he cannot continue to keep on accusing us of our law-breaking in order to put the spirit of death to work in our bodies.

SID: Now did the spirit of death just leave? What happened to all these conditions that were going on in your life?

KATIE: As I kept on with just getting in the presence of Jesus, just worshiping him, his authority over death began to be released. Any time I messed up, I went right away to repent so that my lawlessness would be dismissed. As I did that and kept on decreeing grace scriptures, it’s like I built a thicker and thicker bubble of divine protection around me.

Then one by one, step by step, death started to withdraw his actions, his operation in my body, on my ministry, on my marriage, on every part of my life. Pretty soon, everything was being systematically restored. I was starting to get younger, starting to feel better. My marriage got better and better. Our finances—

SID: What do you mean by younger?

KATIE: Younger. I see people today … In fact, I just went in and saw my facialist for the first time in years. I don’t get professional things done to me anymore, because I’m waiting for that supernatural … I’m relying on the supernatural, and that’s what’s happening.

I walked in to see her the other day, because I thought, well, maybe I’ll get a little facial before I go to Sid’s. She looked at me. She goes, “I can’t believe it.” I said, “What?” She goes, “You look so much younger than you did even 10 years ago when I first met you.” I said, “It’s the Lord. It’s the Lord.”

SID: You know, one of the things that … You’re hearing this, and you’re questioning it. I was amazed at the scriptures you found to support what you’re saying. Tell us a couple.

KATIE: Well, here’s the thing. Jesus, he defeated death. Grace defeats death—and repentance. There’s a story in Job 33. You and I talked about it. You said you love this scripture of this guy. He’s so sick. It says he’s in continual pain on his bed. His bones are sticking out. His flesh is clinging to his body.

The Bible tells us why this was happening to him. In that Job 33 scriptures, it says that he was under the assault of the quote inflictors of death, the destroyers. So it was death that was doing that to him, the spirit of death. Okay?

So what does God do about it? Next verses, it says, “Then God is gracious to him.” Gracious. That’s the power of grace. “For he has said, ‘Deliver this man from the pit. I have given him an atonement, a price of redemption and a sacrifice.'” That’s Jesus. “‘Because of that, then his flesh shall become fresher than a child’s and he shall return to the days of his youth.'”

 NATASHA: In His love for you. Then He brings you to where you belong, to a place where you belong. Then He lays hands on a sick woman. That’s radical. He breaks some more rules and traditions in order to help.

DONNA: And by now all eyes are on Him.

NATASHA: Yes.

DONNA: Yes. Everyone is watching to see what’s going to happen.

NATASHA: Absolutely. He touches her. He loves you. He wants to touch you. He wants to heal you. Then He heals her. He sets her free. He rebukes your opposers. And this is what Jesus did on the cross. He rebuked, He conquered the devil. He conquered sicknesses. He lifts her status in the society, in the community, in the synagogue by calling her the daughter of Abraham. I mean, a woman was never called a daughter of Abraham.

DONNA: Um hmmm

NATASHA: It referred only to men. I mean, He literally, physical healing for God, for Jesus, it was always more than a physical healing. It was always about, also, emotional restoration. It’s a restoration of your dignity, of your value, lifting your status up in that society.

DONNA: Yes. Yes. Sure. Yeah.

NATASHA: That’s why He engaged in conversation with people before He would heal them. And then, I liked what Jesus said. Satan bound that woman. Because usually this phrase is used to teach that, you know, Jesus pointed to the source of the sickness. It’s true. But also, He wanted to let everybody know, it’s not her fault.

DONNA: Oh.

NATASHA: Because usually a religion blames people for, you know, being in the situation where they are. God doesn’t blame you. He doesn’t put guilt. He lifts that guilt from you. He says it’s not your fault. And then, of course, He reaches out to her. He lifts her. He heals her. And then we see the response of people. Faith is increased. So when we see how God is kind to someone, our faith is stirred.

DONNA: Yes.

NATASHA: And we open our hearts to God.

DONNA: Sure. Would you take just a moment right here, before we go to break? I am sure. I know it. I feel it. There are so many people watching that may be dealing with some type of sickness, and they’ve been led to believe you’re in sin, or you’re not doing something right, or you’re not praying right, or you’re not repenting enough, or whatever. Will you speak to them just for a moment before we go?

NATASHA: Yes. Well, I would like to tell you to just switch your focus from what you need to do, what you must do. Just switch your focus to what God has already done for you. He is here. He is with you. He may be in you. He loves you. He removes all guilt from your life. You know, we all make mistakes. It’s not a problem for God. He invites you to come where you belong. Just respond to Him, to His kindness, to His goodness. He touches you. Right now He touches you. He lifts every burden. He lifts every sickness. In fact, He already paid the greatest price so you could be free from sickness, from emotional burden. Just trust Him. And He calls you a daughter of Abraham, a child of God. He lifts your status. You are not just someone without hope. He lifts you to the place where you belong. And I tell you, you will have a testimony that will stir the faith of many people, and encourage them to trust God, just like you are doing now.

DONNA: Yes. Wow. Woo. [music]

NATASHA: Amen. Amen.

RON: — anyway, we’re working on that. Yeah, he’s a joy angel. He’s messing with some of you too I know right now.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

RON: Cause I [laughing] the joy of the Lord is our —

AUDIENCE: Strength.

RON: And I was so weak. Went through four major surgeries and honest to God I’d have been happy to go to heaven except missing my kids and grandkids and see God in the future and God sent this angel into my bedroom one night. So — I’m not going to cry.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHING]

RON: I believe right now would you bow your head and close your eyes with me all over? I’ve asked the Holy Spirit to give instruction here to me right now. First of all the Lord’s told me right where you are if you sense weakness in your body, you sense weakness in your body. It might not be an illness but it’s a weakness and you don’t feel like you’ve had the strength that you need I want you to put your hand up right now. I cancel that assignment of the enemy and what he’s trying to do in your life in the name of Jesus and I declare to you that the Lord is the strength of your life. And God’s about to give you some joy in your life. I release joy and laughter that doeth good like a medicine right now in this place in the name of Jesus! And I declare within the next 24 hours you’re going to, you’re not going to be able to control yourself for the joy and laughter that’s going to be [laughing] released in your life. Now you don’t believe, some of you just let – put your faith to work with mine right now. He said the joy of the Lord. He said a merry heart does good like a medicine. That medicine that I’m administering it. I’m not Dr. Crandall but I’m administering a dose of the Holy Ghost to bring joy into your life! [laughing]

AUDIENCE: Praise God!

RON: [laughing] That’s all right. Now there’s something worse going on here today and I want to deal with that now. yes, I, I really, I really sense – the Bible says He’ll give you a garment of praise for a spirit of heaviness. If you’re struggling with depression, depression. That’s heaviness in the Bible. That’s not God’s glory. That’s not, that’s not a burden of the Lord. That’s the enemy because He said My yoke is easy, My burden is light. If you’re struggling with depression I want you to stand up. You’re not going to have to come up here but I want you to stand up wherever you are. Just remain standing. Nobody look around. This is not anybody’s business but God and me right now. This is a demonic spirit. You’re not possessed but you’re oppressed. No demon can possess a Christian but they can harass, suppress, depress and compress. And I have authority, I have apostolic authority to come into agreement with you to get rid of this if you’ll let me. But you got to trust me enough to pray this prayer out loud with me when I pray it. Will you do it? Say Dear Lord Jesus.

AUDIENCE: Dear Lord Jesus.

RON: I want to confess.

AUDIENCE: I want to confess.

RON: I have allowed the enemy.

AUDIENCE: I have allowed the enemy.

RON:  To traffic in my life.

AUDIENCE: To traffic in my life.

RON: And in my thoughts.

AUDIENCE: And in my thoughts.

RON: I’m tired of it.

AUDIENCE: I’m tired of it.

RON:  I don’t want to be depressed any longer.

AUDIENCE: I don’t want to be depressed any longer.

ROBERT: Now I think that’s why John described Jesus’ birth this way in his Gospel. In John 1:14: “The word became flesh and tabernacled among us and we beheld His glory.” It shed some new light on the Christmas story. In Luke chapter 2 we’re told Mary brought forth her child and laid Him, in most of our English translations say, laid Him in a manger. Now the Greek word there is “phatne” and it can be translated manger but it can also mean a stall or a stable or a temporary shelter. As a matter of fact “phatne” is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew word Sukkah. Genesis 33 Jacob made Sukkahs for his cattle. So during the Feast there were no rooms in the Inn but there were Sukkahs all over the place. In Luke 2:7 says “And she brought forth her firstborn Son and wrapped Him in swaddling clothes and laid Him in a Sukkah. And on that Feast of Tabernacles the glory of God came into that Sukkah as Jesus the Messiah was born. Now Jesus gave a promise at Tabernacles. It says on the last day of the Feast He said in a loud voice “If anyone is thirsty let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, streams of living water will flow from his innermost being.” Now to understand what He was saying we need to understand the context. A key element of Tabernacles was the “Ceremony of Outpouring.” It was the high point of the entire cycle of appointed times. Every year at Tabernacles the high priest performed a prophetic act. He took the golden pitcher. Filled it with water from the Pool of Siloam. Carried it up to the Temple and poured it out at the altar. Huge crowds would accompany him. They would gather around. They wanted to hear the sound of the water pouring. It was an appeal to God for the “latter rain” in the natural realm. Also an appeal to God for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the spiritual realm. God had said I’ll pour out my Spirit on all people. This was repeated every day during the Feast. Each day the celebration was bigger. Everybody got more and more excited and that helps us understand John 7 when it says “On the last day, the Great Day of the Feast,” the priest would have brought water from Siloam. Carried it up to the altar. He would have lifted the pitcher high and prepared to pour it and a hush would have fallen on the crowd. And then just as the priest is about to pour the water Jesus cries out in a loud voice “If any man is thirsty let him come to me and drink. For he who believes in me from his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.” And see that is Jesus’ goal. Overflowing life. That is the goal of the whole cycle of feasts. As you go through these feasts you begin with redemption. You begin, you move into a celebration of God’s provision. You end up experiencing His glory and the Living Water of Jesus bubbles up from inside. That’s what the goal of the Feasts are. That’s what Tabernacles is all about. So this year at Tabernacles receive God’s river of life. Celebrate His glory and rejoice. Lord Jesus, we thank You. Lord, we thank You for Your Feasts—

AUDIENCE: (APPLAUSE) Whoo!

ROBERT: Lord, I thank You that even though they have been stolen away from us in the Dark Ages, Lord, You are restoring them to us. Lord, You are releasing a new level of blessing on Your people, Lord, that will help bring forth a last days revival. Lord, I pray for each one, Lord, that Your Spirit would quicken them as they celebrate the Feasts. That it would not just be a ritual, it would not just be a holiday, it would not just be a religious observance but Lord that You would meet with them individually as they celebrate and bring them to a new level in You. Lord, we thank You, Lord. I pray Your blessing on each one. In Yeshua’s name. Amen. Amen. Thank You, Lord! Thank You, Lord! Thank You, Lord!

AUDIENCE: (CLAPPING)

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JAMES: Hallelujah! (laughing) Well one day Jesus took His disciples up on a mountain. We know it now as the Mount of Transfiguration. By the way I was there about ten days ago and the anointing is still there. Hallelujah! But He took His disciples up on this mountain and their spiritual eyes opened up to some new things. Amen? Well are the promises in the Bible just for the Bible people? No! They’re for me and they’re for you! Amen? So they’re on the Mountain. Peter, James and John their spiritual eyes opened and they saw Jesus with His glory. And they said it was like looking into the sun He was so bright and so awesome! Would you like to see that? Well go ahead. It’s for you! And then they saw Moses and Elijah. I love that because you know Moses didn’t get to go in the Promised Land when the people did. He had to wait for Jesus. And then he came down in the Promised Land. His feet touched the ground of the Promised Land finally after all those years! I’m so happy for Moses. He got to be there and got to see it. Amen!

AUDIENCE: Whooo! (CLAPPING)

JAMES: And there was Elijah. Wow! Not only that. They saw the “Cloud of God’s Glory” and they heard God’s voice. Wasn’t Jesus, He was right there. It was the voice of the Father and the voice of the Father said “This is My son.  Listen to Him.” (laughs) And I think He’s saying that to us today! Listen to Jesus. You know Jesus said one time “My sheep they hear My voice.” Are you one of Jesus’ sheep?    Well if that’s true and you believe what Jesus said then you should be hearing Jesus’ voice so that you can follow Jesus. In this season I think things are moving so fast there’s like an acceleration in the spiritual realm and if we’re going to be where we’re supposed to be, if we’re going to do what we’re supposed to do we’ve got to be on alert! Ready to move, ready to take action as soon as Jesus tells us to do that. And so right now claim that promise. My sheep hear My voice. Say “I am one of Jesus’ sheep.”

AUDIENCE: I am one of Jesus’ sheep.

JAMES: And I’m going to hear His voice.

AUDIENCE: And I’m going to hear His voice.

JAMES: How about now?

AUDIENCE: How about now?

JAMES: Yeah Lord, go ahead and speak to us now. Your sheep have their ears open. Speak to us Lord. Amen. Amen.

JAMES: Well I want to hear the voice of the Lord. How about you? Amen. Well then you see that Paul, we read about it in Corinthians, went to the “Third Heaven.” What is the Third Heaven?” Well I’ve heard a lot of different theories about it but my experience is that in the “Third Heaven” that’s the place where God lives and He meets with His people and any other definition, you can have whatever definition you want, but that’s the one that works for me, is where God is and where He meets with His people. And you know for a long time we believed that that was some place far, far away. In another galaxy right, (laughs) like in some of those movies, in a galaxy far, far away. But it’s not really true, is it Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is at hand. It’s so close you can touch it. In fact it’s in you, right? The kingdom of heaven is in you. And we need to open up and begin to move in the power of that open heaven. That’s what God has for us. That’s what He has for you. And He wants release an anointing to you, an impartation to you to experience with all of your senses, spiritual senses. We want to get those activated today, okay?       Get your spiritual senses activated today! Hallelujah!     

AUDIENCE: (CLAPPING)JAMES: Hahaha. Well I was in that meeting in London and all of a sudden I started smelling cotton candy and it was just    floating around the room. And it was so sweet. Anybody here like cotton candy? That’s a nice fragrance, isn’t it? Whooa, it was so good and it’s floating around. I said Lord, what is that? He said that’s the Holy Spirit. Smells like cotton candy. He’s so sweet. Wow! And you know it makes you hungry for Him. Hungry for the Spirit. When you smell that sweet, sweet fragrance you just want to take that in. I try to breathe it in. (breathing in) Oohh, I’m kinda selfish, I wanted it all. Hahahahaha! But it’s not just for me. I believe that everything that I experience is for you. And I believe that God will let you experience more of it than me.

TIM: What they permit will be permitted. We can speak into the region. It’s how apostles and prophets change or shift regions. But angels come to back those decrees of the apostles and prophets or pastors or New Testament church, however you want to put it. They’re there to back it. And the Holy Spirit’s bringing more of them for the greatest days in church history. He’s actually doing – He’s doing 3 different things. First of all He’s converging all the streams of the ages.

JAMIE: Wow!

TIM: All the past dreams of our kingdom, our church from the birth of it in Acts 2 on. There’s been various streams. He’s taking the best of all of those streams and He’s converging them into our times in the Third Great Awakening! Think about that! All those streams, the best of all of them happening at the same time!

JAMIE: Wow!

TIM: That’s never happened before. You always have an emphasis of a certain stream –

JAMIE: Right.

TIM: In a certain awakening.

JAMIE: Yeah!

TIM: Now we’re getting them all at the same time! Secondly all the anointings or outpourings of the past and there have been many. Holy Spirit said to me you’re moving from Acts 2 – or just Acts 2 to Acts 7. And Acts 7 is when Jesus stood up. He became the standing King. And the picture of that is Psalms 133. When the High Priest sat down oil was poured down over his head and it went to all of his garment. Well on the Day of Pentecost is when Jesus sat down becoming our High Priest and He sat down on the throne of heaven. Father God takes the horn of holy anointing oil which could have been as much as half a gallon of oil – we don’t know how big the horn was – but He poured it over Christ’s head. It ran down off of His head just like it’s pictured in Psalms 133, down off of His beard and dripped onto His body. Well His body in Acts 2 is sitting in the Upper Room. He’s in heaven. The anointing’s poured on Him but it begins to drip upon His body so for the first time ever the same oil on the Head is now on the Body.

JAMIE: Wow!

TIM: Why? So that the Body can do the same works as the Head! We represent Him! Well through the – the picture is when the High Priest is seated the anointing poured out on his head flows into his lap.

JAMIE: Phew!

TIM: I mean if I pour a gallon of oil on your head it’s going to run – a lot of it run right into your lap. And when you stand up it runs down on your legs or feet and that’s what happened to the High Priest. When he stood that’s why his sandals would squish for the first day. Oil would be all over it.

JAMIE: Wow!

TIM: Representing a new anointing to move, to minister! And so now we’re moving into that anointing. Well so some of the outpouring of Pentecost in Acts chapter 2 some of it ran down and touched the Body seated in the Upper Room but a lot of it settled into the King’s lap waiting for the day when He makes His stand! That will be when the Church is glorious! It’s our time! But not just that anointing, Jamie. All the other outpourings – and there have been great ones – some of the Azusa Street outpouring ran down and accumulated in His lap. Yes they got some of it but some of it is in pristine freshness in the King’s lap! 

JAMIE: Phew!

TIM: What about the Moravian revival? What about the healing revivals? All those outpourings. And when He stands they’re all splashed down at the same time. So you’re also getting not just a converging of the ages and the streams, you’re now getting a convergence of all the outpouring anointings. A portion of those outpourings are also being poured out in our time at the same time!

JAMIE: Phew!

TIM: So when you think about what one outpouring how it affected the world what’s going to happen when they all happen at once?

JAMIE: Wow!

ART: Just being real with you. Now the another case is when Saul became Paul he’s ministering and there’s this   guy out there who after Saul—after Paul preaches the gospel this guy stands up and starts preaching the opposite, opposing the gospel and Paul says you’re going to be blind for a time. In other words this wasn’t even a permanent blindness. It was just to shut the guy down and move him out of the picture so the gospel could take root. So in the New Testament whenever God did something that brought sickness or disease it was always temporary and the clearest picture we have the prescription was healing. The other one was it was to wear off. You see? So don’t be like no, this is my cross to bear. Jesus gave— No, that’s not your cross to bear. It was Jesus” cross to bear and He bore it. Your job is not to carry what He carried. Your job’s not to pay for sin. His job’s to pay for sin. Your job’s not to carry sickness.

His job is. So here’s what we’re going to do. I only have a few minutes left and I want to see some people healed. We started tonight. We saw a gentleman’s knee get healed. That was awesome. And so if there’s anybody here who needs physical healing. Anybody watching you need physical healing. Here’s what we’re going to do. I want you to— if you’re in the studio audience raise your hand just so we can see what we’re working with. All right. Look at this. There’s hands all over the place. Many behind us. The guy whose knee we prayed for he’s got his hands down. I love it! And were going to see Jesus do something here. Now look around you at the people whose hands are up. Okay? Because I’m about to teach you exactly what we do to minister healing. All we do is we lay hands on someone and we say be healed in Jesus name and we have them test it out if they can. Some things can be tested immediately. Like pain in your body or something like that. Vision problems. Hearing problems. Some things you’ve got to go to a doctor. You can put your hands down so you don’t need healing for your shoulder too.

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

ART: Some things take some time to test. Because maybe it’s diabetes and you got to go to your doctor and get checked out and things like that. That’s great. You just need to test it somehow. If you could test it now test it now. If you can’t test it for two weeks test it in two weeks. All right? We want to see if Jesus did it. I’ve seen people healed of diabetes. I’ve visited a church a year later after visiting it before and a gentleman testified I’ve been diabetes free for a year. So we know Jesus does those ones. It’s just hard to count those in a service. Fair? Okay. So if you’re watching I want you to put your hand wherever the pain is. If you’ve got somebody with you I want to have them lay hands on you. Now here’s something. Sometimes we’re afraid of what if the person next to me isn’t a full strong Christian believer. What if some evil spirit’s going to jump on me or something like that. “Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.” Okay?   

AUDIENCE: Yes! Amen!  ART: So if you’re a believer you’re good. You’re safe. All right? Jesus said “the prince of this world is coming. He has no grip on me.” Okay? That’s what’s available to you. So let’s just stand firm on the Word and just believe that all we’re looking for is Jesus. If you ask your Father for a fish He’s not going to give you a snake. Right? So if you’re asking for Jesus to touch you He’s going to expel anything else that doesn’t belong, that’s not from Him. Right? So you’re safe. You’re safe in this environment.  Jesus is with you. But before I do this, this is a promise for believers to minister healing. And so if there’s anybody here or anybody watching who has never come to Jesus and said Lord I want You to be my Savior. I want You to wash me clean and make me pure. Set me free 100%. I’m telling you right now Jesus wants to do it. There is no question in my mind that He paid the price for you right here right now. And whether you’re sitting here or watching this film you can be saved. Not just your body but your spirit, your eternal spirit which has ramifications for the rest of eternity far beyond what we could see.

Jesus paid for you. He paid for you because He loves you and because He wants you whole. So right now if that’s you I want you to pray along with me. In fact if you’re in this studio audience and you want to make that bold public confession of faith, I’m not going to ask you to stand up or shout or anything or tell me your story, anything like that but I do want to be able to personally pray for you. I’ll stay right here. I’m won’t jump on you. But if that’s you I’d like you to raise your hand cause Jesus said— Yeah, awesome. Is there anyone else? Praise You Lord. Awesome. Anyone else? Yeah. Praise you Lord. Three. Four. Five, Six. Yeah. Anyone else? Seven. Awesome. Eight. Yeah. Thank You Lord! In Jesus” name right now I speak to every one of you. You are forgiven. You are forgiven. You are forgiven. That’s something He told us to do, to do in His name, to express that to you. You are forgiven in Jesus” name. And so right now I want you to pray with me. Lord Jesus. Would you just say that after me

SID: Oh, thank you, Toni. Now I have to ask one question before I turn him loose again. This will stretch you a little bit. Tell me about the man that you prayed for that grew in height.

GUILLERMO: You know what I was saying about when you walk in the supernatural. I learned to disconnect my reason. And when I’m saying disconnecting your reason it doesn’t mean you’re stupid. That’s not the point. I went to ORU [Oral Roberts University] so I understand and I know the part of the natural knowledge. And I’m ministering in Argentina and this little man, he was a man like in an 8 year-old body, and he was 21. And I saw him on the stage because he was in a wheelchair. And the Lord said, “declare that he will grow.” So to my reason it went “what?” It didn’t make sense, but I learned to move even though it doesn’t make sense. Are you going to do that? So I said you will grow in 24 hours. So in 24 hours, his pastor is a doctor, and the doctor called me and then he said, “You know, I know his case, this sickness cripples the people and it’s one in one million.” And then he said, ‘now he grew 8 inches.” That was a miracle.

AUDIENCE: (CLAPS) Whooo!

GUILLERMO: Now I’ve got pictures because he had to sell all his clothes because [they] didn’t fit anymore. So are you ready, Sid? Can I go [ahead] now? All right, thank you. Take your seat. Okay, let me introduce myself saying this. I was visited, I had a visitation from the Lord. And [in] that visitation He spoke to me. The room, my room got filled with the presence of God and the Lord said I have called you to bring my supernatural power to this generation. This is what I have been doing for the last maybe 25 years. So it hasn’t been easy, has been sometimes hard. Why? Because [in] the western society you are mired by knowledge. If you have a lot of knowledge, oh my God, you’re the best. The thing is can you demonstrate that knowledge? Jesus began to DO and then teach. We are very good teachers, but not demonstrators. Not do-ers, in other words, that has been my challenge, to take the people from knowledge to demonstration. And today I will demonstrate it. Because the kingdom of God is not only in words but in power. So let me speak to you [from] one of my chapters on the supernatural and the kingdom of power which is the last book on the restoration of the supernatural. And when we’re talking about restoration, the word “restored,” something is restored because it lost the original state. And when you see in the scripture the word “restored,” the prefix “re” means going back into the original intent. And why the restoration of the supernatural? Because we’ve got many anti-Christs, and the word “anti-Christ” means substitute and also means the one that opposes. So the anti-Christ has become, and in many churches what we got is substitutes of the supernatural. When you don’t have power you entertain. And that’s why we have in churches we’ve got substitute and they got the form of godliness but there’s no power. How do you know? People call Pentecostals, 200 hundred people and [of] those 200 people 150 they don’t speak in tongues.

As a matter of fact we don’t sing in tongues anymore. And I got my young people, they’re on fire, they’re going to malls, they’re going to streets in Miami, they going to, they close malls literally, people getting healed, getting delivered, demon-possessed people getting delivered in the streets and parking lots. So when they go to school and they got cell groups, there are some other people that don’t believe in the things of the spirit and they make fun of them, because today it is very rare to find somebody filled with the spirit. And being filled one time is not enough. You need to be continually being filled. So the supernatural, why the supernatural? Why the restoration? Because we have lost, the church was born as a supernatural entity. You never see in the Book of Acts counseling. You never see people being counseled. Why? Because they have the supernatural. Why we need the supernatural? Because number 1, the supernatural demonstrate[s] God in the now. In the now. So we understand the Jewish people knew God as the historical God. They knew God a historical God. They knew He could do miracles. But they didn’t know the God of the now. So the church does the same thing. They know God did miracles and all that. But can we believe in the God of the now? Can we bring heaven on earth right now? I didn’t hear you.

KYLE: Welcome back to Something More! I’m Kyle Winkler and joining me is Bruce Van Natta! Bruce, we’re talking about prayer! And you were just telling us about your friend Tim and how he didn’t realize that God was speaking to him the whole time but yet He was!

BRUCE: Yeah, and I think it’s so common! I think we see this so often with Christians who don’t believe or realize that God is speaking to anybody just like Tim. Even then he said it’s a coincidence! What a crazy coincidence. And I said Tim, look at the timing! Look at the timing! We’re talking about seconds! 

KYLE: And this was time after time!

BRUCE: Three times in a row over the period of three weeks and it comes right down to the second! It wasn’t a coincidence! And I said tell me what prompted you? And he said it was just a thought. And I said that’s it, Tim! That’s how God speaks to us! It’s those thoughts! Now discernment then is realizing that that thought is really from God, right? I mean and getting mature in knowing that. But God is speaking and it’s Spirit to spirit so it comes in our thoughts.

KYLE: How do we get to the point of recognizing that it’s God’s voice in our lives? I know you have something with a State Fair that has helped you with this. 

BRUCE: Yeah. Well, so I just use this analogy a lot of times for people because it makes sense to them. Let’s say you and I are at a State Fair. Any other large function with thousands of people and you got separated from your loved one. A husband, a wife, a brother, a sister. You get separated from someone and there’s thousands of people around you. You can’t see them but all of a sudden they start calling your name in that crowd. You’re going to what? You’re going to recognize that voice. Even if you can’t see them you’re going to recognize that voice because you know them! So you’re going to recognize their voice because you know them and it’s the same way with God!  

KYLE: Which goes back to the scripture you mentioned in the previous segment.

BRUCE: Exactly.

KYLE: “That My sheep hear My voice.”

BRUCE: Exactly. And so once we get to know Him, once we have intimacy and get to know Him. How do we do that? We do that by spending time! Just like you do with anybody else. Spending time with them! How do we spend time with God? Through prayer. Through reading the Bible. You know just that back and forth. Practicing His presence. And then we get to realize oh, this is God speaking! Oh, I just read this verse. This is applying right now! But you know in that State Fair the person recognizes the voice because they know Him! It’s the same way with us! We have to get to know God! We have to get to know Him so that when you know when He speaks we recognize that voice now.

KYLE: After all the distractions, and there are plenty with all the social media and everything that is going on, there are plenty of voices and the only way that we’re really going to hear God is if we can get into His Word. If we can be intimate with Him! Spend time with Him so that we’re hearing His voice over all of the others!  

BRUCE: That’s right.

KYLE: What do you say to people that would say well I don’t know if God speaks anymore? You know there was even a recent media person that said people have, mental illness if they’re hearing from God! 

BRUCE: Sure.

KYLE: What do you say to something like that?

BRUCE: It’s real, simple! I go back to the Word! John 10:27. “My sheep know My voice.” It’s clear. There’s a period on the end of that sentence, right? John 8:47. “He who belongs to God hears what God says.” “He who belongs to God hears what God says.” Again another analogy. FM radio tower. The FM signal is going out. It’s going out. It’s going out. Now if you’re driving along or let’s say old school. You have a really old car where you have a tuner instead of digital and you actually had to turn it. If you didn’t have your tuner tuned in, even though that signal is being transmitted, you’re not going to get it. Right?