Sid Roth

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Patricia King. And when I think about Patricia King, I think of someone that is so overwhelmed with the love of God, with the compassion of God that you literally go to the streets and you deal with the down and outs. And I see you put your arms around people that probably haven’t had a bath in a month and are filled with lice. Why do you do this?

PATRICIA: Well, you know, I was forgiven of a lot, Sid. And so when you’re forgiven of much you have to love much. I was so loved by God myself, so forgiven, that that’s why we bring light into the darkness. And everyone will come alive if they’re loved to life, right?

SID: And you know what I also love? You’ll give a prophetic word to someone.

PATRICIA: Yes, God’s words, yes.

SID: That’s got to be such encouragement to people.

PATRICIA: Yeah. You know, people never hear of what they were created for. And so if you don’t know who you are and what you were created for you might never reach for that. You know, if you’ve been told your whole life that you’re no good and that you’ll never amount to anything then maybe you won’t, because if you believe those words, right? But if you were told right from the beginning that you were created with destiny and purpose then you can arise up into that because that’s what you were made for. So when we go out and give prophetic words even to those that are in the darkest of places in their lives and then send them that, those words will bring them to life.

SID: Now many of these street people have mental problems, schizophrenic. Tell me about one schizophrenic that got healed.

PATRICIA: Well we have a home called the Restoration House that came about because we met so many people on the street that we would have loved to have taken home and just love them to life, but we didn’t have a facility. So we believed God for a home. And our very first person that came into that home had a problem with schizophrenia. In fact, they were on medication for that. And God just told us how to believe for them to come into wholeness and to come into a place where they could be functional. They weren’t even saved when they first came to the home. But through loving them to life God transformed them. And after they became a Christian they started believing God to come into the fullness of what they were created for. And as a result God supernaturally delivered them from their schizophrenia, so that now just within a year or so after that, they are in their right mind. They’re totally off all their medication. They’re working at a job. They’re being an asset to the community and they’re just thriving in the things of God because of the power of God, because of the supernatural healing affect of God upon their lives.

SID: Now some amazing things that have happened at your conferences. Tell me about the Wind and Fire conference.

PATRICIA: Oh my gosh. That was so amazing. We were actually praying for this conference called Wind and Fire. We’re in a prayer meeting and in the home where we’re having the prayer meeting, all of a sudden, the smell of fire, like a fresh fire came into all of our nostrils. We’re running around the house thinking the house was on fire. But there was no fire. So we’re wondering what is that? We look out the window and all of a sudden a fire truck goes down the street, and we thought, well maybe it’s the neighbor’s house is on fire or something. We run outside the door to find this fire. The fire truck is parked just down the street. We run down there and say, “Is there a fire?” They said, “Well we got a phone call that there was a fire on Badger Avenue, but we can’t find the fire.” All of a sudden I realized, oh my gosh, that’s the name of the conference, Wind and Fire. We were just praying about the fire of God.

SID: And it actually so manifested in the invisible that they could smell it.

PATRICIA: It was physical smell that was manifesting, but no visible fire. So the next week when we actually had our conference we were planning a five-day event. The very first night of the conference the smell of fire came into the conference hall. The janitors were running around trying to find the fire and didn’t understand why the alarm didn’t go off. And there’s no fire, but everyone could smell the fire. Do you know what, Sid? We had 21 nights of revival where people were healed, delivered, set free, saved, forgiven of their sins. Often times, people wouldn’t even leave the meetings until four o’clock in the morning because the fire of God, the power of God was moving in such an extraordinary way. So in that case, the fire, the smell of the fire was a supernatural sign of what God was gonna bring, the fire of His Spirit, the fire of His glory, he was gonna bring into the meetings. And it was a prophetic sign.
SID: Let me take you back to that young woman that thought they’d put her in a mental institution, throw the key away, and then you were set free from shame.

PATRICIA: Yes.

SID: You were set free from guilt. What did that feel like to be free?

PATRICIA: Oh, you know, when you live under the weight of sin and guilt and you can’t do anything about it, I knew that I was a bad person. I tried not to be a bad person, but I kept doing things that were bad. So it enforced who I was. I was trapped inside of guilt and shame. And many people even watching this program right now, in fact, you might be watching right now and you feel that way, that I’m under guilt, I’m under shame, I’m under condemnation. I don’t know what to do. But I’m telling you, Yeshua, Jesus, in a moment of time can lift that because you’re forgiven in him and you’re loved eternally in him. And that’s what I experienced at that time.

SID: Pray a brief prayer right now, very brief, for them to experience the love of God.

PATRICIA: Yeshua, I pray right now that for everyone watching that the love, the love that’s in your heart for them will be experienced in them in the fullness, in the fullness of their mind, their body and their spirit. Enter them now with love that frees them from condemnation and shame forever. In the name of Yeshua, amen.

SID: How would you like to know that love all the time? If you know the king of love, you’ll know his love all the time. His name in Hebrew, Yeshua, in English, Jesus. Make your peace with him. What you’re experiencing right now, that peace, it’s nothing compared to what he has for you no matter what the world has thrown at you or will throw at you. By making Jesus Lord of your life, you are on your first step to the greatest life a human could have. Do it now. Don’t wait another minute. This is your moment. Don’t miss the moment of your visitation. Make him Lord now.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Patricia King. And I love it when I get on an airplane and can go somewhere. But how much more when you can be translated like Phillip and the Ethiopian eunuch, he found himself in another story, just like in the Bible, from one city to another. But Patricia, you were going to go on a trip to Israel. But before you went on the trip to Israel, you had an amazing experience. Tell me about that.

PATRICIA: That’s right. Yeah, Sid, months before I went to Jerusalem for the first time in the natural, I was in prayer for Israel one day. And as I was praying the Spirit of God took me in a vision, a visionary encounter I would call it, like a transvision, where I ended up in the city of Jerusalem and then found myself flying through the streets of Jerusalem interceding for the peace of Jerusalem.

SID: Well sure beats being in a car in a traffic jam. I like that.

PATRICIA: It does. It does. And it was so real and tangible that I actually smelled like fragrances, like spices and that, and I could actually feel wind against my face. I acknowledged the wind of the city, the warm wind of the city blowing against my face. And it was months later when I actually went to Israel for my first time, and I was walking through the streets of Jerusalem that I realized this is where I was in the spirit, the same smells, the fragrance, the feel of the air. And it was just a very surreal time. It was awesome.

SID: So but what you could see, did you see some of the same things that when in the natural that you saw when you were flying over?

PATRICIA: Exactly. Yeah. It was actually some streets that I flew through in the spirit. And it was at dusk. When I flew through it, it was at dusk. And there was a settling and there weren’t a lot of people around there, but I acknowledged some of the storefronts, the buildings, the structure of the building fronts and that.

SID: What about that sick friend, 1500 miles away, 1500 miles away she goes and prays for this person. Tell me about that one.

PATRICIA: That was another encounter. When I was in Mesa, Arizona my friend was in the hospital in Vancouver, British Columbia, 1500 miles away. And I got a call from her daughter saying, “Please pray for my mother. She is very sick.” In fact they had done some tests. They believed that she was suffering with a pulmonary embolism. As I was praying I was walking down the streets of Mesa, Arizona, praying, storming for my friend, concerned about her, and through a visionary encounter was taken in the spirit to Vancouver, British Columbia in the same hospital where my friend was. I actually saw her in the hospital bed as clear as I’m seeing you now. And the Holy Spirit had told me to release by faith the healing blessing. And so I just by faith released that blessing. It was just an act of faith. And then immediately I was back on the street of Mesa, Arizona where I had been walking. I thought, oh my gosh, I was just in Vancouver over my friend’s body in the hospital imparting healing. I knew that I knew, that I knew that she was healed. And so we finished our walk. We were on a prayer walk. We finished our walk, got home. Later on that evening I got a call from her daughter and she said, “The symptoms have waned from my mother. They’re gonna keep her in overnight, do some more tests in the morning. But if she’s okay and the tests come through, they’re gonna send her home.” I said, “Your mother will be fine because she’s healed.” And I knew that I knew, that I knew that she was healed because I was there and I could feel that presence of faith ministered to her.

SID: And she was totally healed?

PATRICIA: Completely healed. She went home the next day. No symptoms. All the reports came back normal.

SID: Well, you know, you hear these stories from Patricia King. You hear these stories from my guests every week on It’s Supernatural. You say it’s wonderful for them, but they’re people, you, as a matter of fact, you’re saying, “What about me, God? Am I Swiss cheese?” I’ve got some good news for you. So many people have gone through this Glory School that are now moving in the supernatural. I want you to look at a student that was just leaving one of these Glory Schools and he was supernaturally transported. I love it. Let’s take a look.
Man: This is back in the Fall of 2006. My friend Sam and I were driving back from Tuscan, Arizona where we had been teaching in prophetic schools, and we had just gotten off the highway to fill our gas tank at a Love’s gas station just south of Casa Grande, Arizona. And as we got back on the highway, we were talking about the prophetic school and all the amazing ways God had shown up, and talking about the things of God. And while we were talking, all of a sudden outside of the driver’s side window, we both see this flash of light, this like brilliant white flash. And it took us by surprise. I remember I turned to Sam to say, “Did you see that?” At that same time he was saying to me, “What was that?” And as we were trying to figure out what it was, not two or three seconds later, all of a sudden we notice we’re at the Chandler Road exit on the I-10. If you don’t know the Phoenix area and the I-10 highway, that’s at least 20 or 30 miles down the road from where we had been. And so we weren’t sure what was going on. But I can remember the atmosphere inside the jeep became supercharged with the presence of God. And all the hair on my arms was standing on end, and all the hair on my legs on was standing on end. And we had gone past where we needed to be, so we had to get off the highway and turn back around. And as we did that, we’re coming back on the highway and we’re saying, “God, what just happened? Did you just transport us in the Spirit? What was that flash? What did you just do? How did we get here?” And as we’re asking God to explain to us what had just happened, this truck, this huge semi pulls right into our lane, almost cuts us off, and on the back of the truck right in front of us, in huge letters, it says, “Covenant Transport.” So God sent a literal sign right in front of our eyes on the highway to confirm what He had just done. He had just transported us in the Spirit.

SID: Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I’m Sid Roth here with Patricia King. And when you look at Patricia and you see a woman vibrant but just showering life, l’chaim, life. But there was a time when she wasn’t that way. There was a time when she was at her wits end. She literally felt that they were going to put her in a mental institution and throw the key away, but she had a newborn baby. What did you do about this baby?

PATRICIA: Well when I gave birth to my baby I was on my death bed, actually, because of a seizure that I had had. And at that time, Jesus appeared to me in a vision. So I gave birth to the baby, but then afterwards, had epileptic seizures, had emotional rages, uncontrollable emotional outbursts, and I was very concerned about the wellbeing of my baby. And I had another child as well. And so I was doing lots of things behind the scenes that I was very ashamed of, but had no power to control, and I was afraid to tell people about it because I thought, you know, if they knew what I was doing that they’d hate me. But it got to the point where I needed to tell someone. So I was going to report it to the authorities and, but before I did that, I wanted to make sure that my baby was okay. And back then I thought, well if I would have my baby christened in a traditional church, that then maybe if once I reported it and they put me in an institution and threw the key away that maybe I would see my baby in Heaven one day. That was my thought.

SID: Yeah. It’s kind of a bizarre thought. But you know what? It was a good thought because you had an appointment with a minister.

PATRICIA: That’s right.

SID: And what did he say to you?

PATRICIA: Well I went and called the local Anglican minister and asked him if he would come in and christen my child because I was in a problem. And he showed up at the house about 20 minutes later, and that was the first time I heard about knowing Jesus in a personal away about being born again. And he said, “I have been in the ministry for 17 years, but I’ve only known the Lord for two.” And so he introduced to the born again experience, invited me to a prayer meeting. I went to the prayer meeting and everyone I saw was glowing, literally glowing, and shared their testimony of how Jesus took their sin away.

SID: What did you feel at this meeting? I know what you saw, but what did you feel?

PATRICIA: Well when I walked through the door it was the first time I felt joy and I could never remember feeling such intense joy as when I walked through the threshold of that doorway. And I heard them pray and talk about Yeshua as though he were right in the room. And I thought I want that. I’m desperate for that. But all their testimonies of having him forgive their sin didn’t seem as bad as what I had done. So I thought, I wonder if he could forgive the sins of the likes of me. So I left that meeting that night, went home into my living room all by myself, and I cried out and I said, “Lord, they said that you forgave their sin and came into their life and gave them a brand new life, but my sin seems so much greater than theirs, so I don’t know if you would be able to come into mine. But if you would, I want you to.” And Sid, he didn’t hesitate. He did not hesitate. I felt him come in. I felt love. It was like liquid love coming into me. And it was like immediately the miracle of what we call salvation, it was like a new birth inside where I knew all the guilt, all the shame, all the trappings that I had were I knew I was evil to the core, but couldn’t do anything about it. It was all gone in that moment of time. And I cried all night long. I stayed up all night and cried because of the goodness of the Lord.

SID: But then she becomes normal. Now what do I mean by normal? Does that mean she sits in a church for the next 20 years being entertained? No. She wants everyone to know her great discovery.

PATRICIA: That’s right.

SID: So she goes around her neighborhood. I mean, was it the next day?

PATRICIA: The very next morning. I cried all night, got up, refreshed myself, and as soon as I saw lights on around the neighborhood I went knocking on the doors, because I thought, Sid, that the only reason why people hadn’t received Jesus was because they hadn’t heard. I thought for sure they would want him just like I did. So I knocked on the first door and I said, “Last night Jesus came into my heart and he forgave me of all my sin and he can take away your sin, too.” And he said, “Patricia, have you gone crazy?” And I said, “No. I was crazy but now I’m not crazy.” And they thought I had just gone berserk and, you know, a kind of rumor went around the neighborhood about that.

SID: Patricia, you have never changed.

PATRICIA: I never stopped.

SID: You know what? I don’t understand why most Christians don’t start.

PATRICIA: I know.

SID: It doesn’t make sense.

PATRICIA: I go on the streets and find whoever I could find to preach the Gospel to and I still love sharing. The love of Jesus transforms lives. It takes people out of darkness and puts them into a light that is incomparable. There’s nothing in this world that can compare with the light that Yeshua brings to us when we receive him as our Savior and Lord.

SID: This love of God, do you experience it often?

PATRICIA: Yes, yes. The love of God is so real, so tangible. We can experience His love first of all by faith. So even when you don’t feel it we can believe it. Right? I believe He loves me unconditionally even when I don’t feel it. But when you focus on love, when you focus on God’s love you empower that love in your own life and you start to feel the presence of love. And the more you soak in His love, the more you can give it out to others.

SID: Now we’re making available your CD series. It’s your entire school.

PATRICIA: Yes.

SID: But how did you learn so much about the supernatural? How do you understand all of these things?

PATRICIA: Well I had a 30-day visitation of the Holy Spirit where He literally sat me down during a prayer month that I take every year, and I started asking Him about the supernatural. And He unfolded it to me day by day, up to 12, 14 hours everyday, the Holy Spirit nudging me to look up certain scriptures and giving me waves of His manifest presence and glory, and then causing me to pursue the Word. So I created, it was like a dictation, actually, that course is like a dictation of the Holy Spirit over a 30-day period, 16 lessons on it.

SID: Listen, what she is experiencing is not only normal, but it’s what you’re going to have to experience as we get closer to the return of the Messiah. I mean, look around. Things are getting tense. She sees money multiplying. She sees food multiplying. She travels supernaturally. For instance, one chicken fed 19 people?

PATRICIA: Yes. And that was when I was fairly new Christian, Sid, and I didn’t have a lot of teaching on the supernatural yet. But what happened is I was reading in my devotions about how Jesus multiplied the loaves and the fishes, fed 5000 supernaturally with a little bit of provision was put in his hand. That day, it was a Sunday afternoon, I was at home cooking a chicken dinner for our family, my husband and I and two children. He took the children to the lake. It would have frozen over. They were skating, met a whole bunch of friends of ours there, invited them home for dinner. So when he comes through the door he’s got, including our family, 19 people. I was shocked. I was shocked.

SID: I’m sure you were more than shocked.

PATRICIA: We didn’t have cell phones back then, so it was like, “Hi hon, I brought these people home for dinner.” I’ve got this one chicken.

SID: It reminds me I used to go to the circus and there was a car, and about 50 clowns get out of this tiny little car. You must have felt that way.

PATRICIA: That’s exactly how I felt as they filed in. But then I thought, well this morning I prayed and read the scripture about Jesus multiplying the loaves and the fishes. So I prayed the same prayer. I said, “Okay Jesus, you can multiply this.” And I had an expectation for a miracle, although I had to fight fear because I was a little bit embarrassed about having only this one chicken. I added some extra vegetables into the pot and stuff like that. My husband got this big piece of plywood and set it up. We sat 19 people around the table. Well I cut up the chicken, prayed over it and then we asked the blessing on the food, and it started going around. I thought, people are really sensitive. We might be able to do this. But I was thinking, but we still need a miracle, Lord. The first person took this big hunk and portion of chicken, and I thought, oh my gosh, what am I gonna do? You know, it’s never gonna go around. But then the next person also took a great big portion, and the third person. And I was having an internal panic attack. When all of a sudden I noticed, hey just a second, the plate of chicken looked like it still had the same amount of chicken on it. It went around to 19 people, Sid. I was the last one, and it was still a full plate of chicken. But there was chicken on every person’s plate. And do you know what?

SID: What.

PATRICIA: That chicken lasted three days. We had chicken soup, chicken sandwiches, chicken omelets, chicken pizza, chicken everything.

SID: No wonder the supernatural is so natural for Patricia King. Be right back after this word.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov. And we were talking during the break about fear. Alyosha, what does the Bible say is the solution for people that are so fearful?

ALYOSHA: Well the scripture says that perfect love casts out all fear. So the solution is to learn
to experience God’s love.

SID: And Jody, from your research on fear what does this do to the body, the physical body?

JODY: Fear is probably, Sid, one of the most major things that impact the human body today. Fear, sadness, but fear would be on the top definitely. What happens is we have a center in the brain called the amygdale that senses and perceives fear, sends then a signal to the rest of the body. The cells, the glands, the organs all pick it up. You have blood pressure problems. You have all kinds of issues with just fear alone. We can just sit all day and name them But what happens is, is that there only way to dismantle that fear that we know of. And that we know that perfect love casts out fear. It’s something that we must come in to a place of deep security with the Lord.

SID: And you know what? This love, most people understand the definition of love as an action. But Alyosha experienced God’s love as a emotional experience that revolutionized his life. Alyosha, tell me about that big man that was hunting for you to hug you.

ALYOSHA: Until I met that big man, the love of God was a theological concept for me. I didn’t feel really close to God. I knew that He loved me. But I went to that school that Jack Frost started and it was one month long. And there was this man there. He didn’t teach much, but he was very kind and he was big, and he would sneak behind you, and he would just grab you and you catch you into his arms, and he would begin to bless you. And he did it to me and I was startled, and I said, “Wait a minute. I’m not used to being so close to a man.” So I tried to escape. But he was big and strong, and I was small, and I couldn’t do it. I was stuck and I was pinned against his bosom. And he began to bless me. And he would say, “Father, I pray that he would release all the love that he missed growing up.” And suddenly, I felt like my father blessed me, like my Heavenly Father blessed me, but also my earthly father blessed me. You see, my father died when I was five years old, so I don’t remember blessings from him. And now I had a blessing from the Father. And it’s amazing because I believe that the bosom of the Father was imparted into me. And Scripture says that Jesus came from the bosom of the Father. And he said that, “I know where I came from and I know where I’m going to,” a very powerful place. And the other thing that I felt these arms that were holding me, there is a supernatural hug in the Book of Deuteronomy, and it says, “Our God is our refuge, but underneath are everlasting arms.” And there is a hug there imparts the supernatural arms of the Father.

SID: You wept for how long after that?

ALYOSHA: After that I cried for 25 days.

SID: And you weren’t someone that cries easily.

ALYOSHA: No.

SID: You’re very stoic.

ALYOSHA: Men don’t cry. Men don’t show emotions. But see, our Father is very emotional. As a matter of fact, the fruit of the spirit, those are the emotions of God.

SID: How would you like the love of God to fill you with what you’ve missed because you had imperfect parents? How would you like God himself to put His arms around you and hug you? Alyosha, I believe that you could pray and just extend your arms in the spirit and people’s lives would be as transformed as yours was.

ALYOSHA: I just want to put my arms around you and the Father wants to speak to you. And the Father would say to you, “My son, my daughter, I just want you to know how much you are loved and I want to fill every part of you that is longing for my presence. I want to release all the love that you missed growing up and I want to bless you, and I want to release the blessing that I gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that is now part of your inheritance, and I want to tell you that you belong to me, you belong in my family, you belong in my kingdom, and you will never be a second class. I bless you with all my love. And I want heal you, your whole being, in Yeshua’s name.

SID: Oh, I don’t know about the two of you. No, I do know about the two of you. There is a release of such shalom. That’s the only word I can come with. Such peace that I believe that when you hear Alyosha play the piano, and Alyosha, if you would go to the piano right now I want him to play a selection from “Fear Not”. And as that prayer imparted something very special to you, imparted the love of God to you, and I believe as you hear Alyosha impart more the love of God through the music, the Word of God, and in English and in Hebrew, that as he does this I believe from the top of your head to the bottom of your toes your very selves will change. The life of God will just manifest, and there is nothing evil, no sickness that can stand against the love of God. Alyosha from “Fear Not”.

ALYOSHA: [piano music]
[Hebrew]
[English translation] I will both lie down in peace and sleep. For you alone, oh Lord, make me dwell in safety. I have set the Lord always before me. Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved. The Word also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. And those who know Your name will put their trust in You. For You, Lord, have not forsake those who seek You. Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable. He gives power to the weak and to those who have no might He increases strength.

SID: Hello Sid Roth here with Ben and Brenda Peters, Ben and Brenda I have been watching you as you move with the gifts of the spirit specially in prophecy Brenda how did you realize you could prophesy.

BRENDA: We surf under the man of God who prophesy we followed his ministry and serve into it and then it was prophesy into my life and I was position before other leaders handed the mic and I began to listen at a new level.

SID: Wait a second you had never done this before?

BRENDA: No I served in the school.

SID: So they wanted to start with a bunch of leaders?

BRENDA: That’s right.

SID: Okay so they shove a microphone and they say prophesy weren’t you concerned that you wouldn’t know anything about anyone?

BRENDA: I really didn’t have time to think about it and we had been trained in the prophetic and this leader this pastor spoke to me and said God has just told me that I am to give the mic to you Brenda and you are going to prophesy I had nothing else I could do and I took the mic and the presence of God just move into my life quickly and I began to listen and cry out to God and he gave me a word for every pastor in that room and there where probably about 35 leaders.

SID: Now these prophecy there not just something that’s aw that’s nice and its not in the middle lets say a fortune teller that is right by there own emission only a few percentage of the time no this is the real thing in your life in your time your daughter would be dead today if it wasn’t for prophecy explain?

BRENDA: My daughter had asthma she was around 16 years old she had a asthmatic attack and as I turned her she said mom take me to the hospital now and I saw the oxygen leaving her body she began to turn blue got her into the car and as we where taking her to the hospital I began to resuscitate her because I can see that we lost her I began to call forth the Holy Spirit it began to speak to me the presence of God moved into that car and I release the words God brought to me the prophetic words that were spoken into her life and I began to repeat them in resuscitation God you said she would prophesy you said she would go to a nation you said she would become a drama leader and I to repeat them in between every breath I blew in her body she also had a cardiac arrest and she remembers experiencing the present of God that he sent her back between the time we left the house and got to the hospital but the prophetic words were being called forth God you said and he sent her back.

SID: Well what if you haven’t had a prophetic word but I got one for you 91st psalm says with long life you will be satisfied so someone could literally grab that word of God himself for and individual and that’s where that faith dimension now the two of you and I haven’t done this yet and I’m going to do it you’ve been to Mozambique with Heidi Bakers wonderful work there and you’ve told me lately what’s been going on with deaf people when Heidi prays?

BEN: Oh yeah right now everyone she prays for in the villages gets healed every deaf person gets healed.

SID: Did I hear you right did you hear him every deaf person gets healed now I understand you go out into this Muslim villages non Christian villages or you play the Jesus film what happens when that film is played?

BEN: We play the Jesus film then one or two speakers will share the gospel really quickly tell them about Jesus that he is still alive and that he is still moving and that they can receive him they ask for people to raise there hands and there is a crowd in the darkness there maybe 500 or 600 maybe 1, 2, or 3000 depending on the size of the village and all through the crowd their raising there hands there totally Muslim villages some of them have been Muslim since the exception of the village.

SID: Are many Muslim coming to the Lord?

BEN: 100 and 1000 are coming to Lord they are being converted left and right one village will hear about what happen in the last village where miracles took place, and they’ll say “We were wondering when you would ever get to our village.” They’re looking for them to come. And the Muslim leaders are being converted and becoming pastors. Many of their pastors were Muslim leaders in the mosques in the villages. And it’s amazing. There’s thousands of Christians in a tribe that was the largest unreached tribe in all of Africa, the Maqua tribe in northern Mozambique. Now there are hundreds of churches among them.

SID: The work there is absolutely phenomenal, but what you’re about to do is absolutely phenomenal. You had a preparation dream about the younger generation. Tell me about that.

BEN: I had a dream a couple three months ago, and we take young people with us in our motor home that we used to travel in ourselves, and now we take them and we go to places that are needy. And they do worship. They’re worshippers from the House of Prayers. And they do worship, and then after we minister they come and do alter ministry with us, and we train them in groups to prophesy and pray for the sick. And we see God touch a lot of people through them. But I had this vision, and in this vision I was helping another young person, a young lady, to drive the motor home. I was coaching her and she was driving around a mountain pass, and it was a dangerous road, but she was doing very well and I was complimenting her. And then we stepped out to take a break, and while we were outside the motor home, the jacks came down that level it and raised the motor home up to a higher level than we could reach to get back in. And I began to think “How are we going to get back in this motor home?” And I thought “If I let her stand on my shoulders she can get in.” That was a symbolic dream of us turning over. The motor home represents ministry, the vehicles represent ministry. And it went to a new level. We released the younger generation to take over and let them go with it.

SID: I can’t wait to see it, but right now, you believe that everyone watching us can prophesy. Everyone can.

BEN: Absolutely.

SID: Maybe, if it’s ok, we’ll pray for an activation of the gift of prophesy. If that’s ok with you. If you would like to be used by God, if you would like to know things from the mind of God. Do you realize how many bad decisions you’ve made that you would not have made if you had heard God? I mean Brenda knows so much specific things. You even pick people out that are ready to commit suicide. What an awesome gift! Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after these words.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Joan Hunter. And I am overwhelmed with information that Joan has been sharing with me about open doors for sickness. And one I just never thought of before. It has to do with generational curses, but involving a heart or a liver transplants, blood transfusions. Explain, or tell me one person.

JOAN: Okay. Generational curses are passed down through the bloodline. And so you can open the door to different generational curses through blood transfusions. I’ve seen many people that we pray this prayer renouncing that, and they in turn, and repentance and so forth, breaking the generational curses off of the blood transfusion, they get totally set free of all these diseases that were never in their family before. And then in turn–

SID: So the curses pass through the organs to the blood?

JOAN: Right. Any form of–

SID: So it’s generational.

JOAN: Yes, generational curses. And it can happen that way. I personally experienced it set free when I had a little cadaver bone put in, and it was amazing what had happened where that’s concerned. But there’s another lady that had a heart transplant, and she woke up. You know, she had the surgery and then she would start having nightmares about this license plate. And so then the next night, same license plate, the next night, same license plate. And it’s like, what is this? So they went and they found out they knew the state and the actual number. It was the same number every night. They went and investigated. Long story short, that they found the trunk, went in the trunk of that car, found a little bit of the blood of the lady who had died who donated her heart. And long story short, found out that it was her uncle who had killed her. And the last thing that she remembered while she was conscious, as she was thrown in the trunk, the last thing she saw was the license plate. It was imbedded into her mind and it was imbedded into her heart. And in turn, the man was put in prison for killing his niece. There are so many incredible testimonies just like that. And you talked about open doors. We talked about stress, we talked about trauma and generational curses. Unforgiveness is another one that is so strong because, see, unforgiveness is a poison that we drink hoping that the other one is gonna get sick. It’s up to us, when I got rid of the unforgiveness, bitterness, resentment, anger, worry, stress, all those things, you know, over ten years ago, that’s when my breast cancer left. I was no longer feeding it. And my teachings and different things that I do, I augment what Mom and Dad have taught through the years by going into the root causes, because I don’t want people to get prayed for, get healed and then lose their healing because the root is still there. I want them to get healed and stay healed.

SID: You told me about a blood transfusion where people even picked up curses.

JOAN: Yes. And sometimes people, all of a sudden it’s like I have arthritis in my body. I have this. I have that, and there’s no history of it. Well they got a blood transfusion and right after the blood transfusion they end up and they got arthritis because the people whose blood they got, you know, the blood from had arthritis in their generational background.

SID: I would like you to break curses over people. I would like to see trauma that has been just generationally there, or even in your own life. Most people have gone through trauma. I would like to see Joan break that over your life, and then I would like to see Joan move in supernatural words of knowledge and get ready for a release of the gift of miracles.

JOAN: Amen. Father, right now, and before we actually really get into prayer, you place your hand on wherever you might have the physical problem. We’re gonna start off with the spirit of trauma. Trauma usually is the heaviest in the heart area. Whenever you experience trauma you always grab your heart, and that’s just where it will normally physically manifest. Father, right now in the name of Jesus, I curse the spirit of trauma on every single person watching this person. Father, in the name of Jesus, I command all trauma to go, all fear to go, any form of rejection and abandonment to go in Jesus’ name, any of the diseases that correlate with the spirit of trauma, whether it be fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, seizures, schizophrenia, and bipolar, and agoraphobia, in Jesus’ name I curse all those diseases and I command them to be gone. I speak health and wholeness to the chemicals in your bodies to be in perfect harmony and balance in Jesus’ name. In Jesus’ name. Father, I just curse any form of generational curses in Jesus’ name based on their repentance. And in addition to that, Father, we just speak anything bad that has come in through the bloodline and through blood transfusions, or body part transplants, Father, right now in the name of Jesus I speak total health and wholeness. I curse cancer in Jesus’ name. It doesn’t matter if I call out, if I don’t say it, like if I say breast cancer be gone, and you say, oh well she didn’t mention this, it doesn’t matter because the power of God is not limited by words. I curse cancer in your body in Jesus’ name. Any cancer of anybody that is watching right now, in Jesus’ name I command that to be gone. I speak new rotator cuffs in Jesus’ name. And just start going, “Thank you, Jesus, thank you, Jesus,” and you’ll discover the pain is gone. I curse any form of arthritis in your body in Jesus’ name. I see somebody with a brain tumor that has caused a lot of headaches. I curse that brain tumor in Jesus’ name. I command it to be gone. Any damage that chemotherapy, radiation, disease, or surgery, scar tissue in particular, any damage to your body, I speak complete health and restoration in Jesus’ name. God is a god of restoration. Where the enemy comes in or a surgeon comes in and removes something or destroys something, including your finances, I speak restoration in Jesus’ name in every area of your body. I speak the vision, that your vision of what God has called you to do to be restored, and with the vision in the spirit realm, the vision in the natural will be restored also. In the area of hearing that you’ll be able to hear God more clearly than you’ve ever heard Him before, that our ears will be inclined in His words. And Father, I speak that ears are opening up right now in the spirit realm and in the natural in Jesus’ name. I speak health and wholeness to digestive systems, from the going in to the going out, in Jesus’ name. Every function of the body that pertains to digestion, I speak total health and wholeness. Any residual effect from stress and trauma that has harbored itself and made itself home in your body, I command that to be gone in Jesus’ name. Some of you I want you just to day, “Bye-bye, fibromyalgia. Bye-bye cancer. Bye-bye” and you will see that it is completely gone in your body. Restoration of broken ankles are being healed.

SID: Joan, I think that it’s time for them to have the blood transfusion, but of the blood of Yeshua, the blood of Jesus.

JOAN: Yes. Amen. Amen.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Joan Hunter. And Joan has found, since her mother has been promoted to Heaven, and she had such, the Happy Hunters, had such a miracle ministry for so long. But the amount of presence of God has literally increased as she’s prayed for people. Tell me some of the things that you’ve seen as far as creative miracles, because that astounds me when I hear about these creative, it shouldn’t, but it does. I mean, I’m excited about it.

JOAN: It still amazes me, too. What’s so neat is that like somebody came in and they had Stage IV cancer of the lungs, and I said, you know, “Father, in the name of Jesus, I curse the cancer. I command it to be gone. I see new lungs.” And they go back to the doctor. The doctors does X-rays and they’re going, “I don’t know what you did, but you’ve got two new lungs in there.” How does God do it? I don’t know, but I’m so glad he does. People come in with enlarged hearts, enlarged prostates, cancer here, cancer there, and they go back. And it’s not that God has healed their heart. God has just given them a new heart, and new lungs, and new intestines. One lady that couldn’t, you know, had most of her intestines removed because of cancer, she has all new, you know, intestines now. And eyes and eyeballs are being formed and eardrums are being formed, and breasts are were growing back.

SID: This is normal.

JOAN: Yes it is.

SID: And let the whole world be normal. Let’s take a look at a man you prayed for that had a stroke and had disk problems.

MAN: I have three things. I had a stroke six years ago and–

JOAN: You had what?

MAN: A stroke, yes ma’am.

JOAN: Okay.

MAN: And I recently had surgery. I had a disk removed. I had a fractured disk in my neck. I had it removed. And I’ve also found signs of multiple sclerosis. I’ve lost my left leg because of my stroke, my lower left leg.

JOAN: Okay.

MAN: I have weakness in my right leg because of the pressure from the disk being broken.

JOAN: Father, right now, in the name of Jesus, I just thank you for replacing this disk in Jesus’ name. I command the base of the skull to line up with every vertebra in his back, in Jesus’ name. Father, where the surgeons have gone in and cut, You could repair in Jesus’ name. And I command all that pain to go in Jesus’ name.

MAN: Thank you, Jesus.

JOAN: And I’m gonna pray against the spirit of death, because a stroke is a form of death, because your leg is basically dead.

MAN: Yes, ma’am.

JOAN: Okay, so I’m just telling you that. I’m not dead. I’m not dying. You know, I don’t want you to be alarmed by that. In the name of Jesus, I curse the spirit of death in Jesus’ name that tried to take his life. In Jesus’ name, the damage that was caused by the stroke, Father, I speak total restoration into this body, specifically into the left side, all the way down the leg, in Jesus’ name. I speak life, health and wholeness back into this leg, in Jesus’ name.
[applause]
Okay, here we go. We get to do an exercise. That felt good.

Man: [crying] Yes, ma’am.

Man2: He couldn’t move that part of his neck.

Man: [crying] I couldn’t do that.

JOAN: Ain’t God good?

Man: God is good.
[applause]
I haven’t moved my foot in six years.

Man2: How long?

JOAN: Six years.

Man2: You couldn’t move your foot because of the stroke?

Man: Yeah.

JOAN: See, I didn’t know that. But isn’t that cool? I mean, that’s like growing inside of him. No wonder he’s real excited about that one.
[applause]
Let’s do that again. Isn’t that fun?

Man: It’s just amazing. I’m moving my toes for the first time.

SID: That is so wonderful. I love it when pain leaves. But the thing, this key you found when you caught the spirit of trauma to leave by commanding it to leave. Tell me about that man that had back pain for 18 years.

JOAN: He was in so much pain, and everybody had prayed for him. His pastor, it’s an on fire church that believes in healing and miracles happen. And they prayed and they prayed, and they prayed, and the pain was still there. Couldn’t sleep with his wife. Had to sleep in a lounger chair and so forth. And so I brought him up to the front and I laid hands on him, and I said, “Father, right now in the name of Jesus, I curse the spirit of trauma and fear and I command it to be gone in Jesus’ name.” And I didn’t feel led to pray for his healing, so to speak. I said, “Just say thank you Jesus, and wiggle your back.” And so he sat there and he goes, and he was totally healed. And then the following day he came back and he says, “I slept through the night, I slept in my bed, and I have absolutely no pain.” Because the trauma of the event had held that pain in his body. I’m seeing so many people get set free all over the world because and through just the release of that trauma. We’ve all experienced traumas in our life. And when we get totally free of the trauma of, you know, 30, 40 years ago or last week, any car accident, loss of job, different things like that has traumatized us, even a move. Some people think, you know, when they’re moving it’s fun, it’s great, it’s exciting. For some it can be very traumatic. And we’ve got to get trauma free. And when we get trauma free, it’s like it’s just a Holy Ghost hammer going in and just splitting up all these strongholds that are keeping us from truly walking out our healing. Many of you have may have even prayed for your healing and haven’t been healed because of, you know, you’ve done everything you know you do, but you just need to pray for the spirit of trauma to go and to leave your body, because your body will remember every trauma that it has ever experienced in its life. The cells do that. And except through prayer, it’s the only way you can get rid of the trauma in the body.

SID: Well you know, what’s so amazing to me, it’s not just a matter of not just new hearts and new body parts, but people with schizophrenia. Tell me one person who was healed of schizophrenia.

JOAN: He came into a healing encounter, went through the whole weekend, and prayed for him, did the anointing. Didn’t even know what was wrong with him. And so the following day I found out that he was known as like the church schizophrenic. So I laid hands on him and I said, “I curse the spirit of trauma and fear, etc., and I command it to be gone in Jesus’ name.” And I really didn’t think too much about it, but I asked the pastor. I said, “Honestly, he sustained some kind of trauma in his life.” Well when he was like two or three years old he saw his mom dowse herself with gasoline and light herself, and burn herself to death. That’s traumatic.

SID: Sure.

JOAN: Then the father got custody and the father was, what happened there, was worse than what the mother did. And schizophrenia is a form, a shell of protection and just to kind of escape from the reality of life. And God totally completely healed him, set him free, I mean, completely. And then he went back to the home where he was required to stay, like a halfway house. He started praying for everybody. People in there were getting healed and set free. And he came and he told his pastor, he says, “She laid hands on me for the impartation, but I really didn’t think it would happen to me. I really didn’t think that God could use me.” And God is using him. He’s using him totally completely set free from schizophrenia, and all the pain and the trauma of his past. He is on fire for Jesus.

SID: Well when we come back from this break I’m going to have Joan pray for miracles, especially for the spirit of trauma to leave you. Someone’s back was just healed. We’ll be right back after this word.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest, Joan Hunter, has previously been on It’s Supernatural. We had more reports of miracles when she was with us than any guest we’ve ever had. And this show will be no exception. I can feel the presence of God. It’s almost tangible. There are going to be so many miracles that will be released. But recently, Joan, your mother went to Heaven. And her mother is Francis Hunter, and you’ve heard of the Happy Hunters, Charles and Francis Hunter. And literally, you spent 40 years learning about miracles and healing under their ministry, and then you were released to your own. So we’ve got all of your parents’ understanding of healing, and then the new level of yours. And once your mother was promoted something changed as far as the degree of miracles in your ministry.

JOAN: That is for sure. And there was just a demonstrative difference. And as you know in the years that we’ve known each other the miracles are phenomenal that happen in the services, absolutely incredible. But there’s even a greater augmentation of the power of God in the services. And I’m just seeing–

SID: You know last night at dinner, the presence of God just got stronger and stronger and stronger, and I’m reminded of when your mom was guest on It’s Supernatural. Let’s take a look at that.

JOAN: Okay.

SID: You made a statement at dinner and you said that if Charles and Francis Hunter can have miracles happen, anyone can. Did you mean that or were you just being flippant?

FRANCIS: No, I meant it with all my heart, my body and my soul, because that’s what Jesus said. He said every believer would lay hands on the sick and they’ll recover.

SID: You know, it’s amazing, even on that video of a former It’s Supernatural show, the presence of God is there. Joan, when you mother died, there’s a process called grieving, which is a natural thing. But yours got beyond the natural and you learned a lesson about the spirit of grief.

JOAN: I did, I did. And I also learned, and people have learned that I practice what I preach, that you don’t have to live under the grief. You don’t have to live with the trauma. And so what I did is I felt that just a few days after she was gone, I felt my voice going, and I’m like I’ve got television, I’ve got services, I’ve got healing encounters, I’ve got miracle services. And it’s like I can’t go without my voice, and it was getting really weak. And so I got in the shower and I was getting ready to do television some place else the following morning, and I’m like [whispering], “Father, in the name of Jesus, I curse this spirit of grief and trauma. I command it to be gone in Jesus’ name.” And I went, “Halleluiah!” And God had just instantly healed me of all the grief, all the worry, all the trauma, and God totally restored my voice instantly like that.

SID: And that’s a key that you understand about healing that few people understand. Tell me about that woman in the straight jacket.

JOAN: Oh I just love this story. I mean, even thinking about it, I can just feel the presence of God. Recently, I was praying with this young lady in Canada, and she says, “I need you to pray with me.” She says, “You know, as a child, I was raised in a home, not my own family home, but in a special home, and I was young and they didn’t have enough cribs, and so they put me in a bed.” Well, you know, you put any child in a bed they’re gonna get out normally, at least for a season. And so what they did is, as a little child, three and four, and five years old, every night as part of her garments to go to bed they put her in a straight jacket. And my heart just, oh it was, I just can’t fathom that. So here I’m getting ready to pray for her and I said, “What I want you to do is put your hands just like this like as, you know, in the straight jacket.” So she goes like this. “I can’t! I can’t! I can’t!” And she started to hyperventilate. I said, “Give me a minute. I know you trust me.” And I said, “Give me a minute and you’ll be free.” And I said, “I’m going to put my arms around you like the straps of the straight jacket.” And I put my arms around her as tight as I could get them like the straight jacket was on her. And I said, “Father, in the name of Jesus, I curse the spirit of trauma and fear, and I command it to be gone in Jesus’ name.” And I released my arms. At that point, she fell to the ground, sighting the spirit of God, absolutely incredible miracle, and I mean, you could just, it was just gone. She gets up a few moments later and she says, “Oh, I feel so much better.” I said, “Let’s do something else.” I said, “Put your hands like this.” She put her hands like that again. She said, “It’s gone. It’s gone.” All the trauma was gone. And see, now envision this, your husband, her husband in particular, putting her arms around her. She couldn’t handle it because of the trauma. Laying in bed at night he’d want to snuggle. She couldn’t handle it because of the trauma. And to go home and to sleep, and to be hugged by her husband in a normal healthy instead of just, oh, because of the trauma. She could really be loved and held for the first time in her life.

SID: You find that when you command the spirit of trauma to leave or the spirit of grief to leave, people get free for the first time in their lives.

JOAN: Yes. Trauma is such a strong spirit. And over the last couple of years I have understood the power of trauma ever since, you know, since then. Trauma brings on fibromyalgia. I’ve seen people, hundreds of people healed of fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, schizophrenia, bipolar. And when you have trauma it affects your chemical balance and it makes it out of kilter. Thus, we have bipolar because it’s a chemical imbalance. And when you get the chemicals back into alignment, then, which they do orally, then they’re no longer bipolar on a daily basis. In the inside they are. But you pray for the spirit of trauma and fear, and grief, and different things, whatever God tells you to do, and all that leaves. I mean, people are getting instantly set free of agoraphobia, schizophrenia, bipolar. I mean, instantly, instantly, instantly.

SID: You know what I love about the two books, especially your new one that we’re making available is you take, in one book, it’s foundational, you take every disease and you tell what the roots are and how to attack them, and then this new book deals with the understanding of stress, and stress accounts for how many diseases?

JOAN: Eighty-five percent of the diseases of people in doctors’ offices, they go because they’re all stress related.

SID: This is Sid Roth saying fasten that seatbelt. Pull it real tight, because there is a presence of God that is going to come out of the piano as Alyosha Ryabinov plays; this Jewish concert pianist that has been so touched by the Spirit of God. I proclaim to you that you will be physically healed when you listen to this music. I proclaim to you that you will experience supernatural peace when you listen to this music, in Yeshua’s name.

music ——————–>>>>>>>>>>>>>

(Hebrew)

And the Lord bless you and keep you.

The Lord cause His face to shine upon you.

The Lord be gracious unto you,

and may the Lord lift up His countenance upon you

and give you His peace, His shalom

that surpasses every human understanding.

music

SID: Our great Rabbi, Yeshua, the Messiah, said that rivers of living water will pour out continuously from your innermost being. And Alyosha Ryabinov, that’s what he was doing when he was playing. We have a special CD that we’re offering, in which a sabra, a native-born Israeli, speaks the Hebrew, and Alyosha plays, by the Spirit, music. Alyosha, what you were just playing for us, that was not rehearsed at all, was it?

ALYOSHA: No, not at all.

SID: You were able to get that, just spontaneously?

ALYOSHA: Yeah, and I asked the Lord to give me something for healing.

SID: Ok, Jody, I’ve been saying this and thinking this, and just marveling over the supernatural qualities to the language Hebrew. Why is there such supernatural qualities to Hebrew?

JODY: Well, I believe that the bulk of scripture were given to us by God, in the language of Hebrew, and everything has a frequency. Every thought, every substance. A rock has a frequency that it vibrates at. An ocean…

SID: You mean, when it says in scripture that “If you don’t praise Me, even the rocks will…”?

JODY: The rocks will cry out. And it’s really true. And so we see that everything has a frequency that it vibrates at. Hebrew has, and Hebrew scripture, has a very high frequency that it exists at. And so, we take the word of God in Hebrew, and we take those scriptures in Hebrew, and we believe that when God sent those words out, those scriptures out, they were intended by Him for us, His people, that we would be healed, that we would be transformed, that we would be changed into His very image through the word of God.

SID: Now the thing that’s amazing to me is these two, as well as myself, we’ve been studying science lately, most of it done by people that aren’t even believers in the Messiah. And the thing that I just marvel over is science is finally catching up! They’re finally getting it. Tell me some of the things you’ve seen in science that just confirm the deep truths that Jesus was telling us in the New Testament.

JODY: Well, He said “I send My word and it heals them.” So, when the word of God goes forth, when we pray the word of God, when we share the word of God with people, people receive the word when it’s mixed with faith –  because the word of God can go out to an unbeliever, he looks at it, and nothing happens. But when it’s mixed with faith and people position themselves; we have to humble ourselves to receive God and receive His word. But when we do that, the frequencies within the word of God are healing for every listener, for every recipient. And so we see people healed of all kinds of diseases through the word of God and through faith. And we know that there are even experiments done by even people who don’t believe. For example, let me give you an example.

SID: That’s what I… right.

JODY: Here’s an example that was recorded in a book. They took two jars of cooked white rice, and on the label of one jar it said “You fool”, and on the other jar it said “I love you.”

SID: “You fool” and “I love you.” Ok.

JODY: And so, they took elementary school children and every day for a month, the kids spoke to this rice, “You fool”, and “Thank you”, I think it was “Thank you.” Every single day. And at the end of the month, one jar that said “Thank you, appreciation, and love” was fermented into a sweet miso. In other words, there was nothing rotten about it. The other jar that said “You fool” actually rotted and stunk. It was the same rice, two jars, two different thoughts, and two different intentions sent into that rice.

SID: And scripture says life and death are in the power of the mouth, and science is proving that this is true.

JODY: That is right, that is exactly right. And so we see that God wants His people healed. We don’t have any question about that, that God wants us whole, He wants us healed, He wants to see restoration of lives. It’s so exciting to see His word go forth and to see people get healed through the scriptures. And also, there’s an intention, so we talk about thoughts. Every thought we have has a frequency.

SID: Thoughts have frequencies?

JODY: That’s right. Every thought has a frequency that it exists at.  This can be tested, just like a cardiogram can be tested, through mechanical machinery these days can also register thoughts. So if we have thoughts that are peaceful and loving and kind and blessing, we see that those thoughts have very high frequencies. When we’re fearful, when we’re doubting, when we’re in unbelief, when we’re scared, or we’re angry, those thoughts have very low frequencies.

SID: So what she’s basically saying, even if your thoughts and what you say with your mouth is coming from the highest truth imaginable, the Bible, you’re going to be walking in the level that God created you to be, in the kingdom level. But first you have to know the King. His name is Yeshua in Hebrew, Jesus in English. Tell Him you’re sorry for your sins, believe His blood washes away your sins. Say “Jesus, be my Lord, now.”

Sid:  This week I promise you will make you “Red Hot” for the Messiah.  I have been interviewing all this week, Bill Wiese.  Now Bill was a successful realtor in southern California.  Making over a half a million dollars a year, strong Christian, married, good marriage, never had a drug, doesn’t drink,  never been drunk, I have character references on him from his pastor, from the chief of police in his community that has known him for over a twenty-five years. Never had a supernatural experience , by the way, went to a prayer meeting with his wife, his wife went to bed after the meeting.  He stayed up for a little while and on November 23, 1998 at 3:00 AM in the morning Bill Wiese’s wife heard something and she went to find her husband.  Her name is Annette, I have her on the telephone right now.  Explain exactly what happened at about 3:00am.

Annette:  Thank you Sid, for having me on.  Yes, we went to bed after a prayer meeting and I awoke to screams coming from my living room.  And the first thing I did I looked at the clock and it read 3:23.  And Bill had woke up at 3:00 AM to get a glass of water and that’s where the 23 minutes in Hell comes from.  I proceeded down the hall and I found my husband in a state that I have never ever seen him in.  Anyone that knows Bill, knows his nature is calm and conservative and keep in mind that we’d been married for only one year at this point and I found my husband in a state of complete torment, screaming out in terror.  And he began to scream out pray for me, pray for me!

Sid: What did you think was going on?

Annette:  I thought at first he was dying or having  a heart attack.  I was about to call 911.  But when he screamed out pray for me, pray for me. The Lord has taken me to Hell something inside me and I know was God gave me a peace and I just began to pray for him.  I did believe him right away and I began to pray for him, after about twenty minutes or so he calmed down and he began to tell me what happened. 

Sid:  Well, when he began to tell you what happened, did you believe everything he said at that time?  Did you think that he might have begun to hallucinating?

Annette:  No, not at all because I knew his character and his integrity from all the people around him while we were dating. I knew Bill and I knew that he was not even given over to something like this, he would never make up something like this.  He would never lie and he was traumatized Sid.  He was complete trauma while I was praying for him until the Lord took the fear and the torment from his mind.  When God did that, he left the memory.  He left what the experience was but he took all that fear away just like he can divide soul and spirit.  That’s what He did.

Sid: I found out how it changed Bill.  How has this changed your life.  You were a strong Christian at the time, correct?

Annette:  Correct.  We were both serving in our church, normal Christians.  We had never studied Hell, never looked at this topic and we both had witnessed and shared the Lord in our jobs and so forth.  But it rocks your world, to say it honestly.  It totally rocks your world.

Sid: By the way, what type of work were you doing at the time?

Annette:  I was selling new homes for a builder in Irvine, California and I had been doing that successfully for fifteen years.

Sid: Okay, how’s it changed you?

Annette:   It first of all Sid, made me examine my life.  It made me ask questions to God, what am I doing here?  Why am I here?  What will please you Lord?  It first of all..

Sid:  You know, I believe it’s almost like most Christians are asleep and people are dying every day all around them and I know they say they care but their actions speak louder than their words, their doing nothing. 

Annette: Yes, that’s right.  That’s exactly right.  It gave me a complete, I had a desire and hunger for God but it gave me a complete passion for God including my prayer life.  Thinking about all the people I know who are going to this place.  Now we are not called to beat them over the head with the Bible but we are called to share when we have opportunity.  We are called to love them, were called to be an example and we are called to pray for them and pray passionately and fervently for people and not give up and fast and yes its inconvenient and yes it’s a sacrifice but you know what, just like you said these people are dying and everyday around us and if we don’t open our mouths they might never hear the gospel.

Sid: It’s almost the devil has put spiritual scales over the eyes of Christians that really know God and really love God. 

Annette:  Exactly, and it also causes, the enemy wants us to stay distracted.  He wants us to lose our focus and he wants us to become self absorbed.  Well I’m depressed or I have this issue or I, I, I that’s all he needs to do to get us off the course to stop helping people to stop praying for the lost, to stop seeking lost and calling them to repentance and to the love of God.

Sid: Let me talk to Bill again, thank you so much.

Annette:  You are very welcome.  Thank you, Sid.

Sid: Now Bill, you sounded like before this event, as you are now you were a very stable person, but just out of curiosity your human you have problems like everyone else.  But do you worry much like most Christians worry today after that experience?

Bill:  No, not at all.  I mean, those things seemed very minor comparison to the big picture.  You know this gave us a better overall eternal perspective on what’s really important in life.  You know when you understand eternity that what we do for God living for Him is what counts.  These small little things that we go through are not really significant and its going to pass but what we do for God will last for all eternity.

Sid:  Now you’ve done a lot of secular talk shows of all the questions that they ask you what would say was the most important question they asked, and tell me the answer.

Bill:  How can a loving God allow a good person go to Hell?  That’s the most common question as a matter a fact it was a 2006 Barnum poll that showed that 54% of American’s generally believe if you are a good person you will go to Heaven.  If you are bad you go to Hell.  That’s the common misconception.  It’s not based on being good.  It’s based on a relationship and I think an analogy would help people for them to see this because it’s such a common misconception.  Sid if you went and found the most expensive home in the country and knocked on their door and you said excuse me, I’m moving in with you because I’m a good person.  What do you think the people would say?

Sid:  They’d close the door on your foot.

Bill:  Right, because and you wouldn’t expect them to because you have no relationship with them.  Yet people go through their whole life having nothing to do with God, they deny Jesus is the Son of God, which he says is the only way to His house then at the end of their life they have the nerve to come knock on His door and demand to live there because they are a good person.  Good has nothing to do with it, you have no relationship with Him.  You don’t know Him.  He’s your creator but He’s not your Father until you invite in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, then He becomes your Father, now you have a right and  a privilege to live at His house.  But until then, that’s unreasonable to expect to live at someone house you don’t know.  So you see why good has nothing to do with it but yet, that’s the common misconception.   I’m good.  Good has absolutely nothing to do with it.  And the second reason is none of us are good enough according to His standard, you might be good compared to people but not according to God’s standard.  His is absolute perfection.  If we lie once, if we steal one thing, if we have one lustful thought, anyone of those things would keep us out of Heaven.  So we can’t  stand there and say I’m pretty  good, let me in.  You know you can’t even get into another country by saying I’m a good person.  You have to have you passport or visa you know and yet we expect to go to another kingdom and just enter by saying I’m good.

Sid:  Now, you’ve done over 200 secular radio talk shows, many television shows, tell me about one interview you had and pick someone that was almost making fun of you at the beginning and how they changed.

Bill:  I had one where it was syndicated across the nation people would know the name if I even said it,  but he started of saying Bill, I don’t want to hear one Bible verse on my airwaves don’t you give me that’s scripture.  I said no problem.  And he said you know I submit to you that your God’s unloving and mean because he doesn’t consider my viewpoint only your Christian view point.  I’m a good person I have a good viewpoint I should go to Heaven.  Your God’s actually guilty of a hate crime so what do you have to say for yourself?  And Sid that’s where I gave the analogy of a house, if you found the most expense home where you wouldn’t expect to live there because you have no relationship, so people can see it that’s unreasonable to expect to be good.  Then he said, well you Christians are narrow minded, you think that you are the only ones that’s right.  I said well, can I give you another analogy?  And I said say you invited me over to dinner and you said I want you to go south on 95 turn right at Main Street, go up the hill you’ll come to my house, that’s the only way to my house.  And I say to you, you know what I’m going to go north on 95 I am going to get off at Beach Boulevard because I think all road lead to your house that’s what I think.  Well you’re going to tell me Bill you’re not going to get to my house, I’m trying to give you clear directions.  The same way God gives us clear directions to his house.  I think God knows where He lives, all we have to do is follow His clear directions we will get there.  That’s being narrow minded, that’s being specific.  He’s specifically giving us clear instructions on how to get to His house.  He is not trying to keep us out He is trying to get us there.  And so it went on like this I had to give about five analogies like that for Him to start seeing and then he opened up the questions.  And Christians were calling in with questions and they were mislead Christians saying there’s no Hell and nobody’s in Hell, our God is a loving God and he allowed me to give scripture to refute some of their false accusations and so forth.  Anyway by the end of the interview he totally was on my side saying, Bill give them some of that scripture stuff, fire away at them.  Because, I was using a lot of verses so it opened Him up to see and He understood because I responded with love and kindness with these people even though they were really mean to me, a lot of the people on the air were real rude and he said is that some of that Christian love?  I said yeah, actually it is you know because people will share what they have.

Sid: But what about someone in deep Africa that has never heard the gospel would a loving God send them to Hell?

Bill:  Well, yes actually but there’s five ways God gets through to that person.  1. He gives us Roman chapter 1 says: Creation is all around us and evident.  You look at the human body, you look at the animal life,  and you look at plant life, the universe, stars.  There’s evidence of the design everywhere.  Well, that points to a designer if there’s a designer that’s a God.  All you have to do is say God, you’re real.

Sid:  Oh listen,  there’s four more points.  You need all of this information on this course called “Whatever Happened to Hell” it explains the afterlife.  It’s three books, one DVD, it’s his full testimony.  It will give you such a passion for God.  You’ll understand the power of God like you never had before.  It’ll give you such a passion for souls.  It will change your destiny, were making the entire course “Whatever Happened to Hell.”