Sid Roth

SID:  Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Dr. Gwen Correll, something wonderful is about ready to happen to you, Gwen you smile for the first time since your husband had died and you made a decision you told me.

GWEN:  Yes right after that, I had decided that day that I was going to run after Jesus with everything within me.  That I was going to be made whole, that my heart wasn’t going to ache because I was going to allow Jesus to totally heal me and then I was going to see other people healed and I was going to do what he called me to do.

SID:  You know what I believe, I believe that you have a vendetta against sickness I believe that you are just going to break the hold of the demons and devils.  In fact you started or have been involved in healing rooms, and there are two people that we have video clips on from these healing rooms and one is Woody, and the other is Billy.  And there is power supernatural power in the testimony literally as they share miracles, we call them miracle camps.  This is something that I want you to do, when you see a miracle I want you to take your camera when a miracle happens in your home, anywhere from one to three minutes and send it to us and we will put it on.  Let’s take a look at Woody Jewel who had hepatitis C and Billy Arid who was literally deaf in one ear.

Woody:  About a year ago I was working as a manager in a shoe store, and I got real bad sick, I was having severe abdominal pain I was nausea, throwing up, couldn’t work, real weak, and my skin started turning yellow, and my eyes started turning yellow.  I went to the doctor and after several visits to the doctor and a lot of test the nurse calls me and she says well you have hepatitis C and it is quite advanced and now we have to set you up for a liver biopsy.  Well I had met Dr. Gwen Correll when my company first transferred me to Summerset here I saw a sign for an apartment and I called her and that is how I met Gwen and she told me about the healing rooms and I have never heard of healing rooms, I had been a Christian for a while, but I had never heard of healing rooms.  Well I decided I was going to come down here and get my healing.  So I came down here and the ladies prayed for me and anointed me with oil, and I actually came for prayer twice and I came to one of the services and got prayer again and it just so happen at that time they were doing healing training so I went through the training to actually pray for other people.  Well I went back to the specialist that was going to do the biopsy and he walked into the room with a confused look on his face and he said well, I can’t explain it he said I know that you had hepatitis C and he said but you don’t now.

Billy:  A few weeks ago I was with Gwen Correll at a healing room training session, and I was taping the session for her, and it was just a wonderful day at Life Abundant Ministries and she was training a group of people on healing.  And as I was taping at the end of the training session she began to pray for people and I was standing behind the camera and all of a sudden I heard a big loud pop in my head and it was just kind of a shock and then all of a sudden I could hear out of both of my ears I could hear out as good of my right ear as I could my left ear.  I played rock and roll for a number of years and just about lost the hearing on one side.  But God miraculously brought my hearing back God is the healer, Jesus is the healer and I give God the glory.

SID:  Do you realize that these are miracles, these are just ordinary people with an extraordinary God you can do that too.  Many of you have had miracles and I expect you to take your little video camera and do a couple of minutes, three minutes get close to the mike though so we can hear you and I want to hear ordinary people I think the world doesn’t realize miracles are going on.  Gwen I believe that if you pray for people right now I just heard that someone’s back is healed in Jesus name, would you pray for people right now

GWEN:  Yes.  And earlier today when I was praying God spoke to me he said necks are going to be healed.  God is wanting to heal your necks and your legs God spoke to me about knees and throats.  If you have something in your throat you just need to believe God as I pray for you right now God is going to touch you right there in your home I am going to send the healing name to you.  Father in the name of Jesus I send the healing word, everyone watching right now father I am asking you to heal the throats, the necks the backs, I am asking you to heal them of cancer every infirmity every disease right now in the name of Jesus.  Father you sent your word and healed them and by your stripes they are healed and made whole.  And father we agree now for your healing touch upon there bodies in Jesus name amen.

SID:  I believe that many of you were just healed right then but the greatest healing is just about to happen.  You see pain in the heart that is what Gwen had, she had grief and pain in the heart.  Some of you have grief and pain in the heart and Gwen I believe that you have a special presence of God the special compassion for those that have lost loved ones, for those that have lost there dreams, for those that have lost there vision, for those that just don’t know where to go and they are angry and they know that it is wrong, but they are just plain angry.  You were prayed over, it was a process but it also started with a supernatural prayer, would you pray that now.

GWEN:  Yes, father I just ask you to touch each one watching, that has a broken heart that has grief.  God you said you come to bind up the broken hearted, God you said you come to set the captive free.  So lord we send healing into them right now God set them free.  We come against the spirits of grief, I come against the spirit of anger, bitterness, resentment, un-forgiveness, God I pray right now that they are just going to let it go, they are going to release it, release it now in the name of Jesus, and I say be made whole according to the word of God lord go and pour your oil, heal there hearts, heal there minds, heal there bodies, heal there motions, heal every part of there body God set them free right now.  And let then know why you are hope to the hopeless, you are help father God, you are there ever present help, in time of trouble, I thank you lord for healing them right now, In Jesus name Amen.

SID:  Gwen you recently got back from India, and you saw some very few things that people have ever seen tell us about that women who had a demon in here that made her dance all of the time.

GWEN:  Yes we were in a crusade and while we were on the platform we looked down and there was a woman and she began to dance.  You know making unusual motions with her body, with her hand, and so we came down off the platform and we just began to pray for her.  You know, we knew it was a demon in her and we began to take authority over that, and we began to command it to come out of her, to loose her, to go from her in Jesus name.  And as we began to pray and God began to set her free, totally deliver her, totally by the end of the day we were there three days, she brought all of her family.  Brought all of her family to the crusade, she hugged me, and she spoke with me through an interpreter, and she said go back to America and tell, tell what God has done for me, she said thank you, thank you, thank you, for helping me.

SID:  Was she a Hindu before?

GWEN:  She was Hindu.  And she had given her heart to God, but because she had not stayed in this church, and stayed with the right people, I believe that seven more demons, greater came into her, and it was greater then before.

SID:  Let me tell you something most of you have just settled for religious Christianity there is more, there is so much more, eye has not seen nor ear heard all that God has in store for you.  And although it was very important for you to get free emotionally, although it was very important for you to be healed physically.  I am talking about someone’s magnitude is so much greater, I am talking about eternity with God starting now, I am not talking about dying and going to heaven I am talking about the kingdom of God invading earth through you.  I am talking about you hearing gods voice for yourself, I am talking about you walking in supernatural peace and I am talking about you being able to lay hands on the sick and see them recover.  I am talking about you having dreams and visions and it starts right here, don’t take anything for granted, tell God you are sorry for the sins that you have committed and ask for his help to be free and tell him that you believe that the blood of Jesus washes away those sins and now that you are clean, tell Jesus you want him to be more then just your savor, you want him to be your lord, you want him to be your all and all.  You want him to live inside of you, lift those holy hands, and yes they are holy, lift those holy hands to God right now, some of you are getting overwhelmed with his presence start worshipping him, praise your God, we worship you lord, oh God thank you.  Thank you, thank you, thank you, don’t look at circumstances, look at God circumstances won’t help you, only God will, Jesus is the way truth and the light.  No man comes to the Father except through the Son, Jesus is the sun of God now.

SID:  Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Dr. Gwen Correll what happens when your husband dies, you are both young; you have three young children, you don’t expect this, you don’t believe that it could happen, but it happened.  And you got angry with God and literally, as I understand it, it is a natural thing for a widow to grieve for her husband.  There is nothing wrong with that, but yours was beyond natural explain that.

GWEN:  I became very angry with God, angry with everyone.  I became very depressed, I shut myself down, I would not answer the phone I wouldn’t go to the door, I didn’t want to see anyone, I didn’t want to go to church, I didn’t want to go anywhere.  And I became angry and I said God why did this happen to me?  You know I am a good person; I try to do what is right.  Why me what did I do?  And you begin to blame yourself and you begin to blame everyone else.

SID:  And why did you happen to go one day to Pensacola Florida, the Brownsville Assembly of God Church, why did you go?

GWEN:  Someone had come to my family and told them that there was a great revival move of God in Florida.  And they said maybe you need to go there and take her, and they mentioned it to me and I said maybe if I can get out of town I can run from my problems.

SID:  Well as you and I know the grass always seems greener somewhere else until you get there.  She got to the church and she got something she wasn’t bargaining for and we actually have a clip of that.  Let’s go to the Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola Florida right now. 

Preacher:  There is someone here, you have been brought here by a friend, or relative and you have just experience a death of someone very close to you, I am not sure if it is a husband or a wife or a child but you are in deep sorrow.  And there is a grief that is wrenching your heart out and somebody said you aught to come with me to the Brownsville Revival and the Holy Ghost right now is lifting the grief and letting you have a normal grief.  There will be a tear in your eye but he is going to put a smile on your lips.  Praise him, praise him. (singing in tongues) Help the grief fly away, go.  I command you to go, leave.

SID:  Gwen when he said that what happened to you?

GWEN:  I was there and I was actually in the overflow room and I said he is talking about me and so I went when the service was over….

SID:  You weren’t even in the main auditorium, and God knew your name, he knew what was going on, that was you.

GWEN:  That was me.  And I went to the people who have prayer badges and I said he was talking about me, and they prayed for me and they said he needs to pray for you.  We are going to take you to him, so they took me to the main auditorium people were all around him, because every night they pray for everyone there, and there was a crowd around him, but they pushed me in front of him and I looked at him and he looked like a drunk man.  I have never seen anything like it, swirling around, his eyes rolling and I thought what is he going to do, is he going to pray for me I didn’t know.

SID:  Was he what is known as drunk in the Spirit?

GWEN:  You are drunk in the Spirit,

SID:  And the Spirit of God was so over him, it looks like someone is drunk, that is what happened in the book of Acts second chapter and so what happened?

GWEN:  And so I said I am the one and I looked at him and said I am the one, and he looked at me and he leaned back and when he came forward he blew on me.  And when he blew on me I fell to the floor and my body started violently shaking just shaking for thirty minutes my body just shook non-stop.  And then when I got up the people I had come with me they had seen me on the screen I believe and they came over there where I was and they said it looked like there was something around me, like I was glowing, and for the first time in three months I smiled.  And I told them with God I can do this, with God you know I though how am I going to raise my children, I said with God I can do it and I made a decision…

SID:  Did you hear that?  With God you can do that, with God there is going to be such a flow of the supernatural; don’t go away.

SID:  Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Dr. Gwen Correll, this is a different show, different than any show that you have ever seen on television, because it is truly interactive, what I mean by that is you are not going to just sit back and have your shoes off and eating your popcorn, or drinking your beer, or whatever you are doing.  This is interactive, you are going to receive many of the things that my guest has received supernaturally through the Spirit of God you will see what I am talking about.  My quest Dr. Gwen Correll, went through a horrible tragedy.  She was a mother, wife, three children and her husband died.  And she had read books on healing and she was convinced that her husband would live.  But let’s go back just a little bit, Gwen as a young child you had an encounter with God, tell me about that.

GWEN:  I was supernaturally touch at the age of six.

SID:  Six!  At 30 I became to know the Messiah, now I wish that would of happen to me but go ahead.

GWEN:  Well a little girl had invited me to what she called a tent revival, in a small town, I went with her, I had never been to any place like that before I had never seen anything like that before.  And while I was sitting there people were going to the altar and something came over me, I just got up didn’t really think about it I just got up and I walked down to the altar I knelt down and a strange language flowed out of my mouth.  I didn’t know what happened, no one said anything to me no one had prayed for me but God had supernaturally touched me at that meeting.

SID:  Now I am going to fast forward and then you are married and then all of a sudden you get on fire for God again, but your husband is dragging his feet tell me about that.

GWEN:  Well I got touched by the Holy Spirit I was hungry, I was on fire, I was reading all kinds of materials, I was praying, he just didn’t understand, it was not in him, he just did not understand, so I began to pray for him.  I just began to ‘call those things that be not as though they were.’  I called him into wanting to know God, hungry for God and he began to want to win souls, he became a soul winner; and then, little by little…

SID:  Now if you had not taken that stance and maybe taking that stance as many Christian women when the wife gets really on fire for God and the husband is dragging his feet, or vise versa.  And unfortunately there is too many divorces that go on, instead you took the time to believe God.

GWEN:  I was determined I wanted us to live in unity together and to want the same things, and so what God had done for me I wanted it for all of my family, I wanted it for my husband and my children, and so I was determined that the word works if you work the word.

SID:  So he got hungry for God and this was your hearts desire and then when did you find out he was sick?

GWEN:  Well we had he had been supernaturally touched actually when we were in India, and then he had a desire; he was a business man all of his life and had a desire to start a ministry for drug addicts and alcoholics.  So we had our first meeting to start this ministry and the next day we were at a church meeting and during the altar call in the service he dropped to the floor with a grand mal seizure and four months later he was dead.

SID:  Now you understood that it is Gods will that you live and not die?

GWEN:  Yes

SID:  He understood that, but he died and I have to ask you this, why?

GWEN:  I believe that he had head knowledge but it had not dropped down into his spirit.  You have to have heart knowledge of the word, it has got to become real, it has got to become apart of you.  And there are so many things actually I didn’t know and he didn’t know you know the bible says my people parish for lack of knowledge.  Knowledge we didn’t know on certain things and so he died before his time.  God promises us a long life,

SID:  But you didn’t prepare for his death?

GWEN:  No I wasn’t

SID:  You prepared for him to live.

GWEN:  Oh yes.

SID:  And were you there the moment that he died?

GWEN:  I was in the hospital when he died, we had been playing video’s healing video’s for the last part of his death he was comatose and yet we just continued to speak the word, continued to believe I was speaking the word night and day.  I was not going to take no for an answer, but you know when you wait till the last minute when something tragic hits your body, it is hard then to get a hold of the word and get that truth inside of you and so we were playing a video Betty Baxter, In Heaven and we had that on and it was after she was showing heaven and all about heaven and right after that video he bottom lined and he died, and I believe that he made a decision.  I believe he saw glory, I believe he saw a glimpse of heaven and he said I am out of here.

SID:  He said I am out of here, but she is left with three young children not planning on her husband dying and she literally got angry with God we will be right back after this, you are going to want something that is going to change your life, because Gwen has told me already that there are healing words that are about ready to flow, it is interactive we will be right back after this word, don’t go away.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Steven Brooks. And Steven, you like to teach on the anointing.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: What is the anointing?

STEVEN: Sid, the anointing is the power of God’s Holy Spirit to remove burdens, destroy yokes and do it in a way that seems easy. The anointing, when we think of anointing we often think of oil, of somebody being anointed with oil, but that that oil is slippery. And God can do things that we can never do. We might struggle to get it done, but God can come in one second with that anointing. It’s slippery, so fast, so easy, often times the miracle is done and we’re puzzled just trying to figure it out because it happened so easy. Many times it just flows just like oil does.

SID: What happens when you teach on it? Give me a specific.

STEVEN: What happens is those burdens, many times the burdens rest on a person’s shoulder, tries to weigh a person down. The burdens begin to get lifted.

SID: It’s almost like the oil causes it to slip off.

STEVEN: It slips off. Then there’s the yoke. The yoke goes around the neck. The yoke is that last thing that the enemy tries to have on a person to hold them down. But that anointing snaps that yoke. That yoke is not only broken, it’s absolutely destroyed and that’s why when a person receives God’s healing power or that anointing of the spirit they can stay healed. That thing can be destroyed and gone from their life forever.

SID: Tell me about that person with the spine that was bad.

STEVEN: Well I was ministering down a healing line, Sid, and just ministering in that healing and anointing, and the anointing makes it easy for me to minister. There’s no strain. And so often times I don’t have to just really hit somebody or lay hands on them strongly. I always try to use a gentleness. But often times I just touch a person. And recently I just gently touched a lady and she was absolutely healed of a major degenerative spine problem, just instantly healed just by very simple touch. That’s how powerful the anointing is.

SID: I’ve got to hear about when he is speaking about the anointing in the Himalayas and the golden raining came down. Tell me what happened.

STEVEN: Sid, that was a powerful meeting up in the Himalayan mountain region. We had about 400 young people in the meeting, most in their late teens, some in their 20s, up to the age of 29. And the anointing was so strong in the meetings, first of all, the fragrance of the Lord just blew through the room and yokes began to be absolutely destroyed off of people’s lives. And some of these young people, Sid, had heavy addictions with backgrounds in drug usage or tremendous sexual abuse, or sexual morality, and this tremendous freedom began to come to the place, and God began to deliver the young people, and it looked liked if you were to just walk into the meeting you would have thought a bomb went off. It was one of the most drunken services I’d ever seen in my life, even some of the grown adults, spirit-filled believers for years where their assistants were wiped out by the spirit. One man that weighed over 200 pounds, very dedicated worker in the Lord’s ministry, had to be carried out of the meeting, and he had to be carried one mile back to the lodge where he was staying at. Just powerful, powerful–

SID: Just overcome with the presence of God.

STEVEN: Just tremendous overcome. And overcome, not for 20 minutes, all night long for six

or eight, or even 10 hours just people got moved.

SID: Why does God do this when you’re teaching the anointing?

STEVEN: It’s the teaching anointing mixed with the hunger. Those two things come together. There’s a catalyst of people wanting to be set free. The Lord wants them to be set free, and so that anointing hits their faith and it causes the chain reaction in the spirit realm.

SID: Tell me in India about the person with the chunks of flesh.

STEVEN: I was ministering in India last year, Sid, and when I went to the meeting to minister there were no easy cases. It was all hard cases. There were no headaches or no little arthritis in the elbow. It was major diseases. Either it was leprosy, people with body parts missing, people with chunks of flesh falling off. Tremendously hard cases. And I began to pray for some of the Christians first, “God, begin to heal them.” The Hindus saw that. The Hindus came to the meeting with no faith in Jesus as Messiah, but they saw the miracles, and they came and when they saw what God was doing they jumped up in the healing. God began to heal the Hindus. Many of them just gave their hearts to the Lord there on the spot. But Sid, even as I was ministering there was a young woman in her early 20s. I could see her. She was laid out on the front row. They brought her to the meeting. They literally carried her into the meeting. She was blind, paralyzed and demon-possessed. God did an incredible miracle with her. They carried her up into the line and I laid hands on her. I knew the anointing of Jesus went enter her body, but they carried her off. When they carried her off she looked almost exactly the same as she did before I prayed for her. But the next morning the crowds had swollen. We’re well into several thousand people in the meeting now. At the height of the praise and worship when everybody had had their hands raised worshiping Jesus, in walked that young woman absolutely totally healed. All the paralysis gone, her eyesight restored, and she had given her heart to Jesus and rays of light were literally streaming out of her face. Everybody saw it. The church almost fell out. It absolutely shook the church. It shook the community. I just returned from India. She’s still saved today. She was a Muslim. She gave her heart to the Lord and she’s saved today.

SID: Now when you speak all sorts of supernatural things occur, especially when he teaches on the anointing. And we were talking about the affect of this golden rain in the Himalayas. What did it look like?

STEVEN: Sid, you could literally look up, lift your face up and look up, and you could literally feel liquid drops of rain falling on your face. It felt like rain in the natural, but it was golden, and it would just splash all over your face and give you the most uncontrollable laughter. You would just laugh and laugh. It doesn’t matter how difficult life was or what kind of discouraging experiences you may have had. When that golden glory hit you and that rain just went all over you, you just would laugh uncontrollably. I was laughing uncontrollably. I was just so full of the joy of God that it just makes it all worth it.

SID: Steven, I feel the rain. I feel the presence. Would you pray for those that are watching right now?

STEVEN: You know, some of you are watching me. You’re discouraged. You’re discouraged about your finances. You’re discouraged about your body. You’re discouraged at your children not serving the Lord. Just let God refresh you right now. Come on and just look up to the Lord. Raise your hands. Father, I pray that you rain, refresh and bless your people right now because God says it’s gonna be all right. God wants to wipe away your tears right now and it’s time for you to smile. You’ve come through your season of the storm. Now the clouds are parting. Now the sun is shining, and now God is wanting to bless you because you’ve honored Him through this whole thing. You’ve praised Him and now it’s time for your reward. So lift your eyes up and look into the Lord Jesus Christ. For your faith shall not become site, and you will see the blessings of God overtake your life. Glory to Jesus. Just receive his golden rain now.

SID: I’m receiving it. Briefly, tell me about this dream you’ve had for 20 years keeps reoccurring.

Steve: Sid, I’ve had this dream over 100 times of a gigantic tidal wave. When I began to have this dream about 20 years back I didn’t understand it. It would almost terrified me. But a gigantic wave breaking over America, breaking over the nations of the earth. And what I’ve come to understand that this is, is a great End Time outpouring of God’s spirit that’s going to break over the church and God’s going to beautify His church, and we’re going to see the glory poured out upon His people like we’ve never seen before. The greatest miracles we’ve ever seen are yet to come. We’re going to taste them. We’re going to experience it. We’re going to walk in it and live in God’s glory.

SID: Did you get that? A tidal wave is coming. You don’t want to be on the sidelines when this happens. You want to be a participant. There is no close second to the excitement of having intimacy with God knowing that God loves you, knowing that you weren’t an accident, knowing there is a destiny for your life, knowing that if God is for you who could be against you. The only way you can know this is not through religion, not through tradition, but by knowing God for yourself. The only way to know God is to know that God came in a human form, Jesus, who lived among us as a man guiding your place, and by his blood your sins will wash away. It’s as if today is the first day of the rest of your life. What are you going to do about it? Do you want this new beginning? Do you love the way it is? Are you saying there must be something more? There is. In your own words, I mean, I got a simple prayer, “Jesus, help.” Transformed my life, my marriage, my mind, my health, everything. It’s time for you to have that transformation. The rain is falling right now, the golden rain. With your own mouth, out loud, make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. Do it now.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Steven Brooks. Steven is living in a cardboard box. His car isn’t working. He’s got no money. He gave his last few dollars away in an offering. It’s cold as 18 degrees. You’re living off of food in trash cans. It can’t get much worse and then it does. It rains and he’s got a cardboard box he’s living in. You must have been cold.

STEVEN: I did. And also I had a budget cardboard box. It was the one that didn’t have a roof on top. It just had four walls and a bottom. So I got rained on. I was freezing. But, you know, I gave that $4 offering, Sid. And before I knew it, a whole week had gone by and it rolled back around to that mid-week service, and the Holy Spirit prompted me again to get ready and go to that meeting.

SID: But your car isn’t working.

STEVEN: I explained that to the Lord. He said, “You get ready. I’ll take care of the car.” And I said okay. And so again, the car would not start. I tried to start it during the week and it would not start.

SID: That same thing happened to you the first time you went it didn’t start, but it started. So you went the first time.

STEVEN: That is correct. So right before that meeting I tried to start the car up and it started up. And so I drove to the meeting as fast as I could, definitely didn’t want to stop. And so I got to the meeting, went inside, sat down. But Sid, I had been going through this for quite some time now. I felt like a rubber band mentally had been stretched and I felt like I was about to snap. I felt like I had fallen off the side of the world and nobody had known about me. And so when I went to that meeting–

SID: And nobody cared.

STEVEN: That’s what I felt like and the enemy was trying to really enforce that. So there was despair. There was a hopelessness. So I sat down that night and that minister came out that evening and he just put his hand on my shoulder and I felt a heat go all through my body. I grabbed him and I said, “I need to talk to you.” He said, “Come to the back room.” We went to a back room and just began to weep and cry. I told him everything I had been going through. He said, “Steven, if you go out here and tell the people what you just shared with me,” he said, “I believe God will do a miracle for you.” And I said, “Okay, I’ll do it. Will you stand with me?” He said, “Yes.” And so we walked back out to that room and he told everybody, “Steven has something he would like to say.” And I just looked at the people and, Sid, I told them I had been living out of a cardboard box. I had been eating out of trash cans. I just broke with great weeping and balling, and crying. And a young woman in the group that night, she just popped up. She said, “Why don’t we receive an offering for Steven.” Everybody said yes and they all just joined in and they put me in the middle and began to toss money at me and financial gifts. And after it was all over, me and that minister, we gathered it up, went in the back room and began to count it. We poured all the money out on the bed. We started counting $20, $60, $80, $200. He stopped and said, “This is a pretty good offering for a small group.” But we kept on counting. $300, 320, 360, 400. We stopped counting at $418. And he got very serious, Sid. He looked me. He said, “I want to ask you a question and you tell me the truth.” I said okay. He said, “Did you give four $1 bills in the offering last week?” I said, “I did, but I didn’t think anybody saw.” He said, “Well my wife saw you do that.” He said, “Do you know what this is?” I said, “No.” He said, “This is the one hundredfold return. And Sid it was. That night I had literally 100 times given back–

SID: Steven, it was better than a hundredfold return because someone gave you a room to sleep in. Someone gave him a bed. Someone gave him a job. And now as I said at the beginning of the telecast, he is married, has a daughter. The family travels the world telling people about the goodness of God. But I have to believe it was in those times of nothing to do but pray and read the Bible that it made you who you are today. Something amazing is happening with him. When he speaks often times there are supernatural fragrances. Not just one person smells it. Many people smell it and one of the more familiar smells is antiseptic.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: Explain that.

STEVEN: Sid, many times when I minister in the meetings there are people with infections or diseases, infections of the natural that even natural antibiotics can’t knock out. And so often when I begin to minister the fragrance of the Lord will come into the meeting and there’s a fragrance that’s known in the Bible as Anika. Anika was one of the key ingredients that was used in the holy incense that we read about in Exodus, Chapter 30. And many times this fragrance of Anika will begin to manifest in the meetings. And in the natural Anika is a very powerful antiseptic. It’s very expensive, very hard to find. But that same fragrance, which is an attribute of the Lord Jesus, begins to manifest in the meetings and people with some of the most horrendous infections and skin diseases–

SID: Give me one specific one, and I know it happens often. But give me one specific one.

STEVEN: We haven’t had it happen in America often, but just recently when I was in India, a lady with a tremendous sinus infection with uncontrollable drainage, severe pain, she was completely healed in the meeting when that beautiful fragrance of the Lord began to go across the room. Hundreds of people smelled it. And her sinuses in her nose was instantly, absolutely, totally healed. She was overwhelmed with joy. The pain was all gone. All the drainage was gone. We see this often in meetings.

SID: The thing that’s even more overwhelming to me is that it not only happens in the meetings, but you were, I believe, in Israel and they were televising it, and someone in, I believe it was China.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: Tell me about that.

STEVEN: Well we were doing a conference on the top of the Mount of Olives. And Sid, as I was ministering the beautiful fragrance of the Lord came in so strong you literally would have thought somebody took gallons of perfume, broke bottles and just threw it all over the room. Hundreds of people smelled it. It was waves of God’s glory going back and forth through the meeting. God began to heal people. Also, people that were watching by live streaming and by satellite broadcast began to shoot in emails, and they were saying they were also smelling the fragrance there in their rooms. And this was people in China, people in Indonesia, people from all over the world that were smelling it there in their room and also experiencing God’s healing power.

SID: We’ll be back right after this word. And I want to hear about the golden rain that came down in the Himalayas. Be back right after this word.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. It’s hard for me to believe. I look at my guest, Steven Brooks, I’ve met your wife, I’ve met your daughter. You have a worldwide ministry, signs and wonders, you prophecy, the prophecies come to pass. You’ve prophesied over me and it’s come to pass. So I know you hear from God. But it’s hard to believe, Steven, that 20 years ago, it’s hard for me to believe when I look at Steven now, 20 years ago he was single, he lost his job, and you couldn’t go to your parents. Why?

STEVEN: Well Sid, it was a tough situation all around. I had just recently received the baptism in the Holy Spirit at that time of my life. I began to speak in tongues. I was introduced to a church that believed in these types of things. I was totally unaware of it before. So it was all brand new to me. And I went back and I told the old denomination that I came out of that miracles are still happening. God still is doing miracles today. These things are real. And when I joined the church they gave me the right hand of fellowship, but when I told them that they gave me the left foot of fellowship. I was on the way out. My family didn’t understand me. They had been raised in this certain denomination all their life that did not believe in miracles. And so when these things happened to me a lot of my family and close friends did not understand what I was going through. So when I was in a time of great need they did not want to help me. They thought it was some type of judgment upon my life.

SID: And so you got two months behind in rent and he does the honorable thing. He says, “I’m not gonna get into debt any more.” He doesn’t have a job. He looks for a job. You can’t get a job and so he gets in his car, he’s driving out of town and he sees a cardboard box. Why would you grab that cardboard box? What did it look, by the way?

STEVEN: Well it was a large cardboard box, Sid, not your normal cardboard box. It looked like somebody had taken a refrigerator out of it, unpacked it and just threw the box aside. And something told me that I was going to need that. So I stopped my car, popped the trunk and folded that big box up and shoved it in the back of the trunk, because I didn’t know where I was gonna live at, and I drove about 12 miles out of the town and found a place off to the side of the road that I just pulled off to the side, and literally took that box out of the trunk of my car, set it up, and I thought I’ll only be here a few days. It probably won’t be too long. And I begin to live out of that box.

SID: Did you ever in your wildest imagination think that you would live in a cardboard box?

STEVEN: No. The whole time this was going on I kept thinking, why is this happening to me? I was crying for help. I actually went by a church that I was belonging to at that time and I asked them for help and I explained my situation, and they basically replied and said, “You’re going through some type of Job experience. You need to just go ahead and go through it.” And I didn’t understand really it was the enemy trying to destroy my life. And so every time I tried to get help it seemed like it just reinforced the difficult situation I was already in.

SID: Okay. And your car stopped working, so you couldn’t go in your car at night and warm up with the heater. You didn’t have money for gas. How cold did it get?

STEVEN: It got real cold. You know, Sid, when I parked that car I thought I’ll be leaving in a few days. I’ll get out of this mess, but the start stopped working. And before I knew it, it rolled into the winter times and the temperatures began to drop. And one night it got down to 18 degrees, which is considerably below freezing, and that was one of the toughest nights I had.

SID: Now I’m reminded of the time that you said, “Lord, it can’t get any worse.” And then what happened?

STEVEN: Well I was laying in that cardboard box and I was hungry. I had not eaten in four days and things were just difficult. There was stress and pressure. But I said, “Lord,” one night while I was laying in the cardboard box trying to keep from freezing, I said, “Lord, it just cannot get any worse than this.” And when I said that, Sid, I literally felt something wet begin to fall on my face and it started to sprinkle. It started raining. And I said, “Lord, it did get worse.” And so I hit the rock bottom that night.

SID: Well there was something that happened, though. He had a post office box and he got an unexpected check for $400. Had you been eating much?

STEVEN: No, hardly eating anything.

SID: Where did you get food?

STEVEN: Well it was depending on what was available in the trashcans. I found out that some of the local pizza companies, if they didn’t sell all their pizzas at night, they would just throw them away. So if there was something in the dumpsters I ate. If there was not then it was another night of prayer and fasting.

SID: So what did you do with that $400 that came down unexpectedly?

STEVEN: Well it was a shock. It did come unexpectedly. But I remember that I had that friend that I had never paid the back rent on. So I went back and I said, “Listen, I know your dad is the landlord. I want to give you that money so you can take it to him.” And I gave him the money.

SID: Why did you do that? I mean, it’s the right thing to do. But here it’s 18 degrees, it’s raining on you. The cardboard is soggy. Your car isn’t working. You’re eating out of trash cans. $400, Steven. How could you do that?

STEVEN: Well I really wanted to go to the grocery store, but I knew enough having been brought up in a Christian home that there are certain things you need to do in life that were the right things to do. So I took that check and I cashed it at one of these check cashing places, and I took the money over to my friend. He took it to his father, and his father was absolutely shocked that somebody would do that. I just wanted to honor the Lord.

SID: You did have a few dollars cash that you kept. How much?

STEVEN: I kept four $1 bills that I had never spent.

SID: Okay. Get this. He remembers a Bible study that he went to a couple of times. So he goes to that Bible study and they take up an offering. This is a guy that only eats out of trash cans and does a lot of prayer and fasting because he doesn’t have any food, and he puts the $4 in the offering. How could you do that, Steven?

STEVEN: Well there was a guest minister that night. He said, “I’m going to travel down to South America. I want to take medical supplies. I want to receive an offering.” So they begin to pass the offering basket around the room. And I’m sitting there in that room, Sid, and literally a conversation began to go on each side of my shoulder. It felt like an angel was sitting here and an evil spirit was sitting over here. And I heard God just so strongly talked to me and said, “Give your last $4.” And I thought, “Lord, I’m gonna starve.” And I heard a voice on this side say, “If you give that you will starve.” And I thought just for a moment, and the whole time the basket is getting closer to me. And I thought, you know, I’m already starving. I might as well just give it and obey the Lord. And right when I decided to do it, I pulled the money out when the basket showed up. I just threw those four ones into the offering plate, and it went around and vanished, and the meeting was over.

SID: And so you went back to your box and your no food, horrible weather.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: You think it’s gonna get any worse? Wait ‘til you wait what happens next week. Be right back after this word.

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Tom and Ginny Hauser. What happens when corporate America decides to through in the towel and go into ministry? Now Ginny, if someone had told you that you would be going to Brazil casting demons out of people, being a nice corporate wife, living the good life, husband making a quarter of a million dollars a year, never would you, would you?

GINNY:  Oh my goodness no.  No, I’m just a typical person.

SID:  Tom, did you believe that there were really demons?  The truth.

TOM:  Honestly no.  I knew that men were capable of evil, because you can see that, very rational. Someone had told me that the Lord was going to pull my shirttail out, mess up my hair, and mismatch my socks, and I got that word and said – But he’s done all of that and some. I used to think that the demons, the devil, the horns, all that was Hollywood stuff to sell movies…

SID:  Okay. I’m going to take you two to Brazil the first time you had an encounter with demons.  Tell me about it.

TOM:  That was really amazing.  We were with a ministry, Global Awakening, Randy Clark, and there was only thirteen, fourteen, of us on that trip, eleven of them are from out church and I’m supposed to be the pastor who knows everything.

SID:  Of course.

TOM:  Protect them, and we’re in a ministry meeting, the church is filled, we’re in a very poor section of Brazil, and there was a word given for those who were terminally ill. And Randy said I’m going to preach, the team needs to take the terminally ill to the back and pray for them. So we go back, and I’m telling you Sid, it was a sight; it was just a sad sight. There were many dying of aids, there were those in wheelchairs, it was a sad sight. My wife started – I was praying for a woman with aids, and my wife started to pray for a woman, her name was – Priscilla.

GINNY:  It was Priscilla.  I had interviewed her as we’re told to do and find out the details, and of course you are working through an interrupter.

SID:  Right.

GINNY:  So it takes a little time.  But I was finding that I was getting nowhere as far as praying for her, and it wasn’t happening, and the more questions I asked through the interrupter I found out that she had been involved in, had a family history of curses put on her, witchcraft, and this is prevalent in Brazil, it’s you know. So I said stay right here with the interrupter, I’ll go get my husband, he’s good at that stuff.  So I went and got TOM, he had finished praying for the other woman.

SID:  He’s the expert in demons; he doesn’t even believe they exist.

GINNY:  Yes, he’s the expert.  Well anyway, we together ministered to this woman named Priscilla, and she was, I’ll let Tom share, it was just really precious how – she had a deformed leg from a curse put on her, believe it.

SID:  How deformed was it?

GINNY:  She could not walk.

SID:  That’s deformed.

GINNY:  She could not walk without a huge limp, and you could see it was curved.

TOM:  The foot was ninety degrees out, at one year old, her father had made fun of a neighbor child who was crippled and in Brazil there is a group called the Mucumba witchcraft people, and he had a curse put on his family from what happened. At one year’s old this Priscilla’s foot turned out, she had nine surgeries. She came crippled, her back out of alignment, and when she started to tell us about this I said, okay. Well, I read the book, and the Bible talks about demonization. At that point my wife and I we went through our first deliverance with this woman, taking authority, not knowing well, we’d read a lot of key books at that time.

SID:  Now had you read this book at that time.

TOM:  Yes, yes.  Derek Prince.

SID:  I knew him personally and he said that when he was writing this book that he and his wife had had the toughest time. This is so valuable, it tells it all. But go ahead.

TOM:  So it was a pretty graphic deliverance for us. I won’t give you any details of it but you can imagine some of the Hollywood stuff, and I’m thinking wow. Every time I used the name of Jesus the demonic realm would respond, and they would have to listen and behave and go and leave. So at that point after about two hours of this graphic deliverance Priscilla turned to us through the translator and said, I believe I can walk. And with my wife on one side of her elbow, and me on the other, as she walked across the room, her ninety degree foot turned straight.

SID:  Really

GINNY:  Straightened out.

TOM:  Her back came into alignment…

SID:  could you actually see this?

GINNY:  You could see it.  It wasn’t complete at that time, but she definitely started walking with more strength, less of a limp, and she was filled with joy.

TOM:  I wondered why God – and here the engineer kicks in – why is there only five percent of this not complete God? The next night she shows up, and I’m like excited I got – I just saw this thing, you know the rational mind, so at that point I had her come and we prayed that the Holy spirit would finish the work. And Sid she, during the midst of worship, it was as if she had grabbed an electrical line, started shaking, she hit the ground, I pushed through the crowd, and her husband looked at me, he was very happy, because he had a crippled wife the night before…

SID:  Right.

TOM:   He doesn’t – they have a one-year-old child and they are worried

GINNY:  That she’s going to be cursed as well.

TOM:  And in the midst of that, I said to him, and I felt the spirit in me, and I didn’t know how to Portuguese, but I said this. Be healed in the name of Jesus. And right before my eyes her leg went completely straight. And he looked at me like, did you see that? That night the husband, Priscilla, and their one-year-old, finish the story honey, walked up to us. She gave us that…

GINNY:  Oh she gave us a letter, which I thought you would bring.   But anyway she signed it I love you, thank you so much, Priscilla. And he has it in one of his Bibles. We should have brought it, but it was such a precious testimony of the love of Jesus.

SID:  The two of you have ministered to a lot of people in deliverance, but you mention something called curses. What could some of the symptoms be, if people are viewing us right now have curses, what would some of the symptoms be?

TOM:  Torment, such that at night you are unbelievably tormented and lack of peace. Strongholds, where you are doing things you know you do not want to do but there just seems to be…

SID:  Compulsion.

TOM: Compulsion that I cannot stop. It can be drugs, it can be alcohol, it can be pornography. There is a place where you opened that door that it’s almost a place where you invite in a presence. No one wakes up and says I’m going to be a drug addict or an alcoholic, or I’m going to be someone who overeats, or I’m going to be in some bondage to pornography. But we have done ministry now in all of those cases and that stronghold gets a hold and invites that darkness in.

SID:  Tom could you pray for people and break the curses because I understand curses can go back four generations, break up to four generations of curses right now over people.

TOM:  I believe there is someone here tonight, you’ve tuned in, and I believe this is a divine appointment. It’s a point where you’ve come. I want to pray now this bondage that you’re in. In the name of Jesus we come and we take authority over all the curses, generational curses that have been placed upon you, that which has visited not by your choice. And then those who are stuck in bondages who have opened the door to sin, and you are now in a place where you cannot seem to get free, in the name of Jesus Christ, we break that authority off your life, we ask that you would come, and you’d run to the foot of Christ and you’d throw yourself at his feet and he will set you free.  In Jesus name.

GINNY:  It’s done in Jesus name.

SID:  Now you sound like you’re sure of that.

GINNY:  I’m sure of it because I’ve seen it, and God’s word will not return and not do its work.

SID:  Tom, you prayed for one more deliverance, tell me about it?

TOM:   Probably the one that was very dramatic, we had a doctor degreed, she’s in my church, she’s been in my church, doctor degreed UNCW professor, I’m going to call her name Sally, 20 years as a Christian, had gone to psychologists, many, many psychologists. She’d spent thousands of dollars to psychologists trying to get trying to get free of torment and anger towards her husband who was a non-believer. She came to me and she said there’s something really wrong, when I start to pray, I begin to curse my God.   And she said…

SID:  Hum.  I’d say something’s wrong.

TOM:  I know this is not good. So she set up and she came in, one of my associates was with me, my secretary from church. And we began to pray, she went through a list of prayer that we do, and in the midst of this, dramatically, again this is the left brainer, I used to think, man this is dramatic, I’m just telling you as it happened. In the midst of praying she renounced witchcraft, she’d been involved in the occult, she had been to mediums, to psychics, her mother was a shaman, a psychic, and she realized that she’d ask to be forgiven of that, but never renounced the generational curse of that. When she spoke the words I renounce the generational curse of witchcraft, she got up in a violent state, and in a male voice, this is a young, short woman, spoke in a male voice and said, you can’t have her, she’s mine and I’m high level. Something rose up in me. I hate the enemy, I just do. The enemy of your soul that is out to destroy people, and I said I know someone higher level than you and his name is Jesus Christ. You do not have authorization to her, and it says, the spirit started to cry, and it said well where will I go? And I said go to the place of the dryness that Jesus created, and it said all right. And instantly she came, and the personality of the woman came forward and she said, it’s gone, I sense it’s gone. Now that was two and a half years ago, she has come before our church giving testimony. She even brought a large sum of money to bless the church because she said; I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars with secular counselors. You cannot counsel a demon.   Jesus made it clear in the Bible, he didn’t counsel them; he cast them out.

SID:  Well you know Derek Prince personally said to me, God does not set you free of your friends; he sets you free of your enemies.   And these demons are enemies. But I want you to capture this vision, the devil is say, the size of a human, God is the size of the Washington Monument. I mean give me a break, when you say the name of Jesus all the forces of God come against those demons. The demons are actually more afraid of you than you are of them. Perfect love cast out all fear, and love has a name. His name is Jesus and boy does he love you. You just reach out to him.

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Tom and Ginny Hauser.   Now Tom is making a quarter of a million dollars a year as a nuclear engineer, his wife gets radically saved and experience with Jesus, then they see their daughter healed, and his engineering mind goes tilt, and he also becomes radical for Jesus, even to the point of speaking a language his brain had never been taught, the Bible called it unknown tongues, or unknown languages, and Tom, you were growing dissatisfied being a nuclear engineer but then you get this radical idea of going into ministry. Tell me about that? 

TOM:  I had gotten transferred from the nuclear site in North Carolina, and ended up in Georgia, and we were in a Vineyard church in Georgia. And at that point I’m really dissatisfied, I’m really getting to the top of my game, I’d been promised a very large promotion, and at that point I said this isn’t it, this is not – you’ve answered my prayers, but this is not it. So I tell my wife I believe the Lord’s calling me into full time ministry… 

SID:  And Ginny, what did you think about that? 

GINNY:  Are you nuts?    

SID:  What do you mean; are you nuts?  First you want him to become a believer in Jesus and now he’s going a little too far.  You liked the quarter of a million? 

GINNY:  But I was, you know, the hair done, the nails and all that stuff.   And we loved Jesus the whole time. I mean in the corporate world… 

SID:  So why won’t you let him become… 

GINNY:  Because I had this idea in my mind, oh Lord I would never want to be a pastor’s wife. 

TOM:  You’ll send us to Africa or something. 

GINNY:  Yeah.  I just thought you know they were some weird breed.    

SID:  So how did you change your mind? 

GINNY:  Well I went to bed asking the Lord and praying and saying oh my Lord could this be you? Where are you giving my husband this idea? And all night he played this song, like this spoke to me all night, and said, won’t you trust me? Won’t you trust me?  So sweet, the Holy Spirit spoke to me. And I got up, woke up in the morning and the Lord reminded me of a sort of impression in 1989. We had just moved into a brand new house, and we had the whirlpool tub and all that, and I felt like there was this spirit saying, well enjoy it now, because within ten years your whole life is going to change and be different. And I said boy I must be just dreaming I’m enjoying – and the Lord brought that to my remembrance and here it was the year 1990… 

TOM:  It was within six months of that one. 

GINNY:  Eight. So it’s almost like ten years and so I said, could – is this the, is this the,   

TOM:  Fulfillment of… 

GINNY:  Fulfillment of what I felt the spirit was speaking to us and he said yes. And so I said – and he kept saying won’t you trust me, and I said yes, I will trust you Lord. And I told Tom and he goes what? 

TOM:  Now she’s scared me! 

SID:  Now you’re the one that’s scared. 

GINNY:  Now he’s scared again. 

TOM:  I had three fleeces before the Lord, I don’t know about, but I had asked three things of the Lord, I said Lord you’ve got to give my wife the same heart, because I won’t go into ministry without it. And then send me two people that don’t know anything and let them speak to me about this. So that night a woman from our church came up and said you need to come be a pastor in our church and I argued with her. We drove back to Georgia, and a man called us up, his wife called us up and said we need to come over tonight. And I said not tonight, we’re tired. And she was kind of forceful which was not like her, they came over and we were speaking and in the middle all of a sudden the man said I see a big cymbal with a General Electric sign on it with a red line through, you’re not working for General Electric anymore, you’re going to be a pastor in a large church, and I said oh. 

GINNY:  Well we looked at each other and said that must be… 

TOM:  That’s it. 

GINNY:  Conformation of the Lord. 

SID:  Yeah, but Ginny you are a nice executive’s wife, living the good, the nails and everything 

GINNY:  But I was still going to be the executive’s wife, see. 

SID:  Okay.  Did you every in your wildest imagination could see yourselves… 

GINNY:  No, no. 

SID:  Casting demons out of people in foreign countries like Brazil?  Ever, Ginny?  

GINNY: Never in a million years, but you know its God doing it. 

SID:  How do you like the word that Ginny had, can you trust me? Watch what happens when two people say yes God, I can trust you. We’ll be right back and find out about the most amazing people being set free of demons. Don’t go away. 

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Tom and Ginny Hauser. Tom, give me a break, you’re making a quarter of a million dollars a year, you’re a nuclear engineer, you have it made, Ginny I guess you’re kind of happy with his career… 

GINNY:  Oh yes. 

SID:  And then one day he gets this thing in his head Ginny that he wants to leave his job and go into ministry. How did you get that in your head? 

TOM:  Well it was a journey; it really has been a journey. We got saved back in about 1974, my wife got saved first, and the Lord brought me into the kingdom, I call it be the two by four method. Our daughter had been sick, I thought I was saved, I had been raised in a Methodist denomination, when our daughter got sick, all of my scientist background, I had really made science an idol, rationalization… 

SID:  Now I find engineers are very difficult to believe in the invisible world as a people group. When someone is next to me on an airplane and they say they’re n engineer I say, oh brother! 

TOM:  That’s what happened to me, my wife came home and she said I got saved, and I argued with her and I said you’ve been a good Catholic girl, you’ve been saved, you know what are you talking about. Well, our daughter got sick, and at nine months they put her in the hospital. And we had a Jewish doctor, Doctor Nichman, and they had tried everything to find out what was wrong with her intestinal disorder, and they essentially gave up, they had tried all the testing, they had her on intravenous feeding. My wife got home and said we’re going to a healing service and we are going to trust that Jesus will heal her. 

SID:  Did you believe it’s possible? 

TOM:  No. 

SID:  I know you didn’t Tom. Give me a break, a nuclear engineer. 

TOM:  And I walked into the hospital room after Doctor Nichman had told us basically they had given up, my wife walked in with me and my daughter was essentially tied down because they had been I-V feeding her and she wanted to pull it out of her head, and I had the closest thing to a nervous breakdown. I said I’ve got to leave, I drove home in tears, we lived in the woods in upstate New York, I was working on a nuclear site for the fast attack submarine service at that point. And I said to God in anguish of my soul, I said, I’ve heard all my life from my mother that you are a God who does all these good things, if you even exist, heal my daughter. And if you will, then I’ll talk to you.   Well… 

SID:  Big of you to be so gracious with the creator of the universe. 

TOM:  Yeah, it was pretty arrogant, now I, oh my Lord.  Well about a week later my wife came home and said we’re going to a healing service. There was a Baptist pastor named Reverend Floyd Baker. He had been Hells Angel, got converted, he looked like a Hells Angel in a suit, right.   We go to this open-air park at upstate New York in Schenectady, and he’s giving words of knowledge. And I’m thinking man, this is a scam, this just can’t be true you know, I don’t even know what these are, and all of a sudden he points, he stops in the middle of his sermon and he points to the bleachers where I’m sitting in the back with my wife and said there’s a couple praying for a young child, and that child is being healed of an intestinal disorder right now. And I said, man, I think I said to my wife, did you tell him. 

GINNY:  He did, he did. But I didn’t. 

TOM:  And she gets on her knees worshipping Christ, and I’m like, my left-brain is going tilt.   

SID:  I understand. 

TOM:  And so at that point we went to Doctor Nichman, I think he thought we were very stressed. My wife explained to the Jewish doctor that Jesus had just healed our baby.   And so we took the baby, my wife a great woman of faith, the doctor had given me all these prescription things, you know that I was supposed to buy, and I bought a hundred dollars worth of banana flakes, Pedialyte®, mineral substitutes, be careful he’s warning. She gets home and says, don’t worry about that stuff, Jesus has healed the baby, puts the baby in a high chair, puts the finger food, and little Sarah ate I don’t know how many meals in that one sitting. About a week later, she’s still well, and she is gaining weight. And at that point I took a walk in the woods after the doctor said, well whatever is going on here, I don’t know how to explain it, keep doing what you’re doing. And I took a walk… 

SID:  But wait a second. How in the world did you know to believe like that? You’re a baby believer in God yourself. 

GINNY:  I had, I had no other choice.   I just was a desperate mom and I wanted for my child, and I said, you know I had just gotten save, started to believe that the Lord was real, he wasn’t just someone you prayed to and you are doing a good deed or something, so I said we are going to believe this and see if that is really real.    

SID:  I know, but you have a Tom, a doubting Tom over here. 

GINNY:  Well we believe in complete opposites you see. And I said lets just trust God for it. 

SID:  Okay. 

GINNY:  And we did. 

SID:  So Tom, you go out in the woods… 

TOM:  I go out in the woods and say, okay, so you are real, I don’t like your methods, I don’t like it at all. So that’s what I tell people now. I’m one of those guys, a two by four. There is a pastor I tell this joke once in a while. There is a pastor, an old pastor who had a horse and he loved this horse, and he’s given this horse away to another one, and he says I just have one criteria; you need to love this horse and treat him well. So the young man says I can do that, so he gets up on the horse and says giddy-up and the horse doesn’t go anywhere. So the old pastor picks up a two-by-four, whacks the horse on the side of the head and says now go.  And the young man says I thought you said be nice to him, and he says, I am, I’m just getting his attention. 

SID:  Okay. 

TOM:  So God got my attention.

SID:  And? 

TOM:  At that point I really surrendered. I said all right I give up, I don’t understand it, I’m willing to check my rationalism, all my science stuff, I’ve made an idol out of science, you’ve obviously done something here I don’t understand. I want more. And at that point, a week later, I think my wife invited a young man, one of the men from our church who had been in this guitar mass who had led my wife to the Lord, he came over and says, why don’t you just give up and why don’t you surrender, you’ll go free. How do I do that? There’s got to be a plan, there’s got to be a model, I’m a man of models and all that. He led me to Christ and within one minute I got the gift of tongues. And I didn’t really understand al of what that was, there’s been a lot of controversy with it… 

SID:  Well you know what happened you had what was known as a, you’ve heard of heart bypass, he had a mind bypass. He started speaking a language that he had never been trained. This can’t happen to an engineer, but it did. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back. 

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter.  We’re having so much fun here I almost missed the break when we came back. My guest is Tommy Tenney and we are experiencing the supernatural of God. Tommy Tenney is about ready to have a major Hollywood motion picture be released on the life of Esther. Tommy, as we discussed earlier, you’ve studied Esther, you’ve loved the book of Esther for many years, but there was a point in your life when there was a reality that there was something in Esther that you must use for the world. When did it hit you? 

TOMMY:  Well, I was teaching people about the presence of God, and just as a momentary illustration it popped in my mind that just as Esther prepared for twelve months, she soaked six months in oil of myrrh, six months in other spices. Twelve month of preparation for one date with the king.  But one night with the king changed everything.  It changed her destiny, saved her people; brought favor. You have to be ready when it’s your turn.  Favor is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. What if Esther had said, “I don’t like myrrh, I want to wear frankincense”?  And the king may have been allergic to frankincense.   There’s a protocol… 

SID:  All of history would have been changed… 

TOMMY:  That’s right.  There’s a protocol, there’s a way. And there’s is little clue in Esther chapter two, verse fifteen. I write about it in the book that we’re talking about, that Esther listened to the chamberlain.  The king’s chamberlain told her it says very plainly, she only wore what the chamberlain appointed for her to wear.   That tells me other young girls wore what they want, said what they want. But Esther said, “Look, here’s a guy who has been in the inner chambers, he knows the king better than me.  You tell me what to wear.”  That was one of Esther’s secrets. 

SID:  Now when you made that statement in that church, the line from Esther, “One night with the king,” what happened? 

TOMMY:  I’ve written 600 pages about Esther since then, two fiction books, a children’s fiction book, an adult fiction book, a teaching book, and all the revelation of those 600 plus pages was contained in that one little nugget, it just unfolded like a flower. 

SID:  And what does one night with the king mean to our viewers? 

TOMMY:  One night with the king can change everything.  And it’s about, if the king likes you it doesn’t matter who dislikes you. So I’ve been teaching people about the Esther anointing, it’s a good way to put it; how to find favor with the king. Everybody understands we need favor in our homes, favor with our children, favor on our job; favor in our finances.  We need favor.  Favor!  Oh I love this, Sid.  Favor can restore in a day what was stolen over a lifetime.    

SID:  It’s too good, you’ve got to say that again, Tommy. 

TOMMY:  That’s some of the little…what I did is when I started studying Esther. I pulled out all the little truths that I thought…okay; she had to have learned this: And I called them protocols, protocols of the palace, protocols of the king’s presence, and that’s one of them; is that favor can restore in a day what was stolen over a lifetime.   They had been a disenfranchised people; the Jews were carried captive into Babylon. Babylon was taken over by Persia, second-class citizens, so to speak, but it doesn’t matter.   By the time the day of favor is finished, not only Esther is in a place of favor, but her adopted father, Mordecai and all the Jewish nation. They are in an incredible place of favor.  Favor can restore in one day what was stolen over a lifetime.  But you have to find favor with the king. 

SID:  You know, I found it extremely fascinating when you revealed this historical truth in your book that Adolph Hitler banned the book of Esther for obvious reasons; he didn’t want favor on the Jewish people, but I believe… 

TOMMY:  He didn’t want the knowledge of what could happen. 

SID:  Yes, but I believe that there is like a spiritual scale over the eyes of most Christianity that they have to understand the mysteries from the book of Esther. How, why, this motion picture, this Hollywood motion picture? 

TOMMY:  It’s interesting you said mysteries.  The book of Esther is the only book of the Bible that the name of God is not mentioned.  And suddenly it dawned on me, that although His name is not mentioned, His works are evident.   So, it’s like God steps back and works behind the scenes and He gives us a view of how that happens. Same thing that Jesus did; whenever Jesus wanted to reveal a truth, Sid, He would conceal that truth in a story, and we call it the parables. I took the same concept, wrote it into the fiction book, it became a movie, and no, this is not a come to Jesus movie. This is a tell the story…Sid, when is the last time you went to a movie and at the end of the movie they said,  “Everybody bow your head, raise your hands, whose going to commit adultery this week, whose going to harbor hate in their hearts.” 

SID:  It’s not done. 

TOMMY:  They don’t do that.  But they tell the stories and it moves the cultural value markers.   And any battlefield we abandon, we loose by default.   So, I’m just telling the story, with the values of a hero who stayed faithful, who learned protocol. And it’s about an earthly king, but it points to the heavenly king. 

SID:  Is that the purpose, really? 

TOMMY:  That’s the purpose. 

SID:  Who’s in the movie? 

TOMMY:  Peter O’toole, Omar Sharif… 

SID:  I’ll tell you what; I believe there is such a presence of God especially on the music by Tommy’s wife, that as you hear this music, backs are going to be healed, people that are hurting are going to stop hurting, and literally, those tears may come for an evening, but I promise you joy will come in the morning and many of you will have encounters with Jesus. Let’s go out with that clip on the movie, “One Night With The King.”