Sid Roth

Sid: My guest is another Jewish woman that is red hot for the Messiah. She’s been red for God most of her life. She was raised in an observant Jewish home in New York City. Sharon Allen does that mean you followed the festivals, you kept Shabbat, you kept kosher, what was your family life like?

Sharon: Well we kept the commandments from the Torah, Biblical commandments, but we also kept the rabbinical commandments. Those were the commandments that the rabbis added to the original 613 positive and negative commandments, to try and protect the original commandments. So they added rabbinical commandments that we followed.

Sid: Now what did Judaism mean to you growing up?

Sharon: Well for me it meant following God’s ways, and by following God’s ways we were showing our love and devotion to God. So we followed His commandments and for me Judaism was the truth. It was the only way to relate to the one true God.

Sid: Okay, you did what a nice Jewish girl should do; you married a nice Jewish man; you had a child and it did not work out too well. What happened?

Sharon: That’s right, we were married in the Orthodox tradition. Then a few years later we did get a divorce, we had to get a Jewish divorce which is called a Get. Then this Get, this Jewish divorce then enables the couple to remarry other Orthodox Jewish people, once again in an Orthodox ceremony.

Sid: So tell me you get your divorce, you decide to change locations, and you went as far west as you could go. You went to California; you got involved in the real estate business; I mean real estate is booming today, how was it back then?

Sharon: Well it was wonderful. It was in the 1970’s and everybody seemed to be getting their real estate license because there was this huge real estate boom happening. So I got my real estate license and we had moved to the Orange County area. I had brought my parents out to be with me. At the time my real estate license was in a company that was owned by a gentleman by the name of Ron Allen, who would later become my husband. When I first met Ron we got to know each other. Of course, everybody who meets me knows that I’m Jewish. Of course at the time everyone knew my Jewish ways, and my daughter and I were involved in a synagogue because when you’re an Orthodox Jewish person your life revolves around the synagogue. The only thing that my husband, he wasn’t my husband at the time, but when I first met Ron, the only thing Ron had ever told me was that he was a protestant. He never mentioned church; he never mentioned Christianity; he never mentioned the name Jesus if had I would have run in the other direction. All he ever said was that he was a protestant. Actually business was his religion at the time. He was a very successful businessman. So we started dating, and he became more and more involved in our Jewish ways. In fact, every time he would see my parents my mother would say, “Oh he’s so haymishe,” which means “He’s so comfortable to be with.” Little by little Ron became involved with our family, and with the synagogue.

Sid: So you eventually got married and you became, as you just said with the synagogue. What kind of synagogue was it?

Sharon: We were involved with Chabad of Irvine Jewish Center, Lubavitch; Orthodox.

Sid: For those that don’t know about the Lubavitch, or Chabad, tell us a little about it.

Sharon: Chabad Synagogues observe the Torah very strictly, and rabbinical law very strictly. Even those who are not raised in such a strict manner somehow or other, many of the families who maybe are not so familiar with Orthodox ways they want to join a Chabad Synagogue because it’s a way that they feel comfortable. Maybe they’re not observing all the Yiddish kite, which are Jewish lies, but by being in an Orthodox Synagogue they feel like they’re linking up to the One true God. That is why in the Chabad of today we have a modern Chabad attitude. Where we’re very open to all Jewish families in the community.

Sid: So Ron, your husband, is haymishe, but he’s not Jewish. So obviously you make plans for his conversion. How did that go?

Sharon: Well you know it was interesting because when I married Ron he actually adopted Alisa, my daughter Alisa. In the adoption papers it actually stated that he would raise Alisa Jewish. So we are living Jewish life, and it did become very obvious to everyone including Ron, that he’s ready what is called to have a Kosher conversion, which is considered an Orthodox conversion. So at this particular time it was this particular morning, and I just in a very nonchalant voice said “Well you know Ron there are basically 3 ceremonies that you’ll be doing to actually have this Kosher conversion, Orthodox conversion.” We wanted and Orthodox conversion as opposed to Reformed or Conservative conversion because when it’s an Orthodox conversion it’s excepted in all the countries and it’s especially accepted in Israel. So at the time we felt that the Kosher conversion, the Orthodox conversion, is the only way to go. So the first ceremony when a person wants to be converted to Judaism is a mikvah. They are water immersed into a mikvah, which is similar to a baptism, but the water immersion into a mikvah is for purification and identification with the Jewish people, and of course Ron was fine with that. Then the second ceremony, this is for a man who wants to be converted to Judaism. The second ceremony would be circumcision. In the case of my husband was already circumcised as a baby, and for all men who want to have an Orthodox conversion who have already been circumcised, like my husband when they were babies. What the rabbis do is they just draw a little bit of blood, and it’s symbolic. Ron was fine with that because it’s Biblical. Then the next ceremony that I explained to Ron would be that he would appear before a Bet Din, a council of rabbis, a rabbinical court. He would appear before this Bet Din, and he would renounce whatever he believed in before. Now I am not sure if this is necessary for a Reformed conversion, or a Conservative conversion, but it is very important to do this for an Orthodox conversion. In a very matter of fact way I said to my husband “Well I guess because you know you said you were Protestant I guess you’ll renounce That Man.” Because Orthodox people, we don’t say the name of Jesus, we say “That Man.” So I said to Ron, “I guess you’ll renounce That Man.” He looked at me and he said “I don’t think I can do that.” I was shocked! I said “What do you mean you can’t do that?!” I mean it was a horror for me because here we are we’re living a Jewish life, our daughter is going to Hebrew Academy. I mean there are Jewish fathers who don’t send their children to Yeshiva. Our daughter is going to Yeshiva; our home is used for Jewish outreach. In other words, when the synagogue wanted to bring in the Jewish families from the community who may not be involved in a synagogue, we would open our home. We would have different activities. One was like a flower arranging show, and we had it for the ladies. I was driving the…

Sid: Sharon, if he is not going to renounce as you say “That Man,” as I’ll say “Jesus,” so what’s going to happen with this conversion he can’t convert?

Sharon: Well I was in shock! I ran into Alisa’s room; I said “You’re not going to believe this your father says he can’t renounce ‘That Man.’” Then in a moment I had a thought I’ll just go and read my Jewish Bible. I figured it wouldn’t take long, I’d begin to read page 1, I’d read a couple…

Sid: I’ll tell you what hold that thought.

Sid: My guest Dave Brennan and he has revelation from the Book of Zechariah that I’ve never heard people talk about. Zechariah talks about a quartet of four nations that work in tremendous unity. He wrote two books on this subject “The Israel Omen” and “The Israel Omen II.” And in his first book you sound like a fairly cautious guy Dave but you took a leap of faith and you made some predictions based on what you’ve seen happen in the past if reference to coming against Israel.  And you know it’s amazing what you said there that came true; tell us another one.

David: Yeah what is that we look for a major policy shift against Israel and that seems to trigger some type of historical calamity. We actually receive that, that’s what was indicated in the middle part of 2009 as Obama’s administration was just getting going.  And it was pointed out that if this happens then this is what we need to look for.  And it happened on May 19^th 2011.  The President came out in a speech that was described as being very strongly Pro-Palestinian to the point where he was asking Israel to go back to the pre-1967 borders which by previous presidents viewed as something you would never ask Israel to do.  He also indicated that he didn’t want the Palestinian state, that would be created to be severed in two he wanted it to be one continuous land mass. Well the problem with that is that Israel gets in the way.  So it means that Israel would have to be bisected. It was such a strong shift against Israel and US policy that the Washington Post indicated it as such, Democratic Senate leader Harry Reed did, Alan Dershowitz a Harvard Law Professor did as well.

Sid: These are the closest Obama team you can speak of all came against Obama saying that.

David: Yes, so it qualified as what we would be looking for Sid that should produce the historically significant calamity associated with it. So let’s see what happened here.  We know the speech came out on May 19^th, however we know that that isn’t the day that he came up with the policy.  Some weeks earlier the administration obviously came up with the policy and the May 19^th speech was the result of it.  So we can actually track down when he came up with that policy be looking at the actions of his Middle East point man George Mitchell.  Mitchell tendered his resignation letter which was announced about one week before the President’s big speech. It was highly unusual because to have your point man for the Middle East resign just prior to you giving a big speech is not something the administration could have been too happy about.  But Mitchell resigned just the same before the President’s big speech indicating in strong diplomatic terms “I disagree strongly with this policy.” But the New York Times reported that his letter was written on April 6^th. Well since we know how strongly he felt against the policy we can infer that once the policy was decided upon it was probably not more than a day or two that he tendered his letter of resignation.  That brings us to April 4^th or 5^th and what happened would be began happening on April 4^th 2011 is what is described as the worst tornado rampage in world history, not just U.S., but world history as well as flooding only comparable to 1927.  So tragically it included the monster tornado that struck Joplin, Missouri; I was in that area of the country back in July and it just incredible what that tornado produced there.  In addition it was now the record was broken by hundreds of tornadoes; I believe it was 892 tornadoes were accounted for over a period of about one month.  And it all began on April 4^th which coincidentally appears to mark the best date we can narrow down to when the new policy was started.  You can also look back and see in the state of Alabama that they were just ravaged by tornadoes.  I know in Louisiana the flooding that we experienced caused what we call the spillway to be open which caused people to have to move out of the spillway to let the water go in there.  It just impacted a lot of people.

Sid: You know with the current anti-Israel administration in, I can understand why the majority of the Jewish people voted for President Obama the first election, but it defies reason why the majority of the Jewish people in the United States of America voted for him a second time when he is so anti-Israel and the administration is so anti-Israel.  It kind of reminds me to a parallel of Adolf Hitler when the Jewish people were blinded to even him until he started doing things.  Do you see that?                                               

David: I think it’s a state of disbelief; there’s a lack of the ability to wrap one’s mind around certain concepts because they’re too unpleasant.  And I think in this case you know I’m not sure that Jewish people realize just how dangerous the situation is growing for Israel by the day in the Middle East.  You know you’ve got regimes being toppled for example the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt good-gosh really I mean how dangerous is that.

Sid: But they keep having visits to the White House, they are friends of the Administration.

David: It blows you away because they will never be a friend of the United States or Israel.

Sid: For those that don’t really know the Muslim Brotherhood tell me what their objective is.

David: Their objective is the destruction of Israel, complete eradication of the Jews from the land and to take back Al-Quds they call it, which is Jerusalem.  The leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who is so cozied up with Obama Administration was in the United States worshiping and they were able to read his lips as he came in agreement with the cleric who was speaking about desiring the annihilation of the Jews in Israel.  So there’s no doubt that they’re not a friend of the United States, there not a friend of Israel and we shouldn’t be cozying up to them but for some strange reason the United States is under President Obama.

Sid: Well, tell me about some of the next things you see happening based on having reported what would happen in your first book and it did happen. What are some of the new things you see happening.                           

David: You know I talk about the, what I call three common denominators to all of these historically significant disasters, when we look at each one of them they do in fact have three common denominators.  If you look at the first effort which was the Madrid Peace Process in 1991 the whole concept behind that was if we can just get Israel to give away land it’s going to result in peace.  So the word “peace” is established in that.  The round 6 of Madrid produced a move toward that ultimately lead to the Oslo Peace Accord the whole concept was peace.  Every single effort is in the name of peace and it’s important here to distinguish between real peace and the facade of peace.  So we have that one denominator that’s common to every one of these 13 calamities that we’ve looked at the word peace.  The other most obvious word associated with all of them is “destruction.”  You know the destruction of what we’re looking at is historical in each and every one.  We’re not looking at any run of the mill type of calamities but we’re looking at historical, we’re looking at the Perfect Storm. Wow was that an odd storm when you study about it once in a hundred years.  Hurricane Andrew good gosh I was in Florida at the time they asked anyone going south to bring water to the poor people.  The great flood in 19…

Sid: All of these occurred within hours of coming against Israel and these are some of the worst calamities to ever hit in the history of America!

David: And you just hit the nail on the head for the third one, not only do we have the word peace associated with all of these but also the word destruction which we just looked at, but you just said the third one, it was “sudden destruction.”  It happened immediately and usually it happened to the day that the effort was being launched at worst, it began the week of it. I don’t know if anyone’s ever calculated the odds of this but it would have to be astronomical.  Now this is the thing, if the Lord wants believer’s to see a sign that will be missed by the world; in other words those of us who are being watchful and sober concerning the times that we live in, then we seem to have three recurring themes since 1991 playing like a broken record.   Peace, then sudden destruction, peace then sudden destruction, playing over and over again.  So perhaps we need to take a look and step back and say “Hey there must be a message here,” and in fact when you consider that particular phrase there is.  If you go to 1^st Thessalonians chapter 5 we told “When they say peace and safety then sudden destruction comes upon them and they shall not escape.”  Well, it’s a pretty dire warning but it’s exactly representative of what we’ve been seeing.

Sid: So in affect that scripture that most Christians are familiar with is we’re getting previews of it and we’re being shown exactly what ingredients that are necessary for it to happen.  We’re out of time but I’m going to tell you this is fascinating this is new revelation from scripture.

SID: So Jennifer has a great miracle. She has a relationship with God. God begins answering her prayers. She’s out of jail. Her record just totally disappears. She’s back and reunited with her daughter. She’s making $3000 a week. She has an extraordinary gift for writing. She’s making $3000 a week. And then all of a sudden she loses her job. She’s now making zero a week. She’s on food stamps. That must have been quite a comedown.

JENNIFER: It really was. It was very humiliating, honestly, having to go from having sort of everything to nothing. But what I had was worth more than all the money in the world. At this point, I had Jesus.

SID: Well and because she had a relationship with the Messiah things began to change as you began to pray. Tell me what happened.

JENNIFER: Well I began, as I said, to devour the Word and I never stopped. I began to meditate on the Word, and I began to put the Word into practice. And it’s one thing to read the Word and it’s another to study the Word. But when we put our action on the Word, that’s when we begin to see results, and that’s what I did. I plugged into a good church, I got equipped and I began to take the Word at face value. You know, if the Word says it, I believe that’s what it means.

SID: Well speaking of the Word saying it, one day, God speaks to you and He says to you, you’re robbing me. What did He mean?

JENNIFER: Yeah. I was living, very little money at the time. But what I did have I was generous. I would let people borrow it. And they kept stealing it from me. I wouldn’t be able to pay a bill because someone had taken the money that I lent to them. And I was really very angry and annoyed. And I was down on my couch on my knees, and I said, “God, you know, what is going on with this? I’m generous, I’m trying to help people. What is going on? I’m tired of all these people robbing from me.” And I heard the still small voice, and my heart says, “Well stop robbing from me.” And it was then that I learned really to tithe, to give the 10 percent to God. And I tell you when I did that, Sid, things slowly, it didn’t happen overnight, but step by step, began to turn around for me.

SID: Well give me kind of a review of what’s going on with you right now about the turnaround. How many books have you published? Have you ever seen those books for dummies in bookstores? She’s written a couple of them. Tell me about that.

JENNIFER: I’ve written several of those now, and those were the first books that I began to write long before I began to write religious books. And so I’ve written a number of those. I’ve now written eight Christian books on top of that. And God has taken the gift within me and used to bring increase and to bring prosperity into my life, and He’ll do the same thing for anybody.

SID: Okay. Tell me about the oceanfront condo. I mean, from food stamps to an oceanfront condo. Tell me about that.

JENNIFER: It’s really supernatural. What happened was I began to understand the law of confession, and I’m not talking about the name and claim it. I’m talking about standing in line with what God’s Word says. And so I began, I had a desire in my heart. I wanted an oceanfront condo. And so I began to confess: I have an oceanfront condo and it is paid for, back in 2005. I have an oceanfront condo and it is paid for. And I just, everyday, I had a list of confessions and I would read that. At the same time I would tithe, I would give offerings and I would work hard. And sure enough, within five years I have an oceanfront condo. And guess what?

SID: What?

JENNIFER: It’s paid for.

SID: I like that. How would you like that? Anything God will do for her, God will do for you. But let me ask you something. You struggled with fear and doubt, and unbelief. What did God show you about doubt and unbelief?

JENNIFER: God showed me a couple of things. Doubt is the doorway to unbelief, and unbelief will lead to fear. But the Holy Spirit showed me something even last night. He said, “The battle is in the mind, but the war is for your heart.” And the reason why is because—

SID: Wait a second. Explain that first.

JENNIFER: The battle is in the mind. So we have thoughts. The enemy launches his fiery darts. And really the battle is in the mind. It’s the thought, it’s the imaginations, it’s the suggestions that we hear: well you’ll never prosper, well you’ll never be healed, well you’ll never do this or that. And that’s the enemy bringing doubt, causing you to bring doubt that you will doubt God’s Word. See the battle is in the mind, but the war is for your heart. See, because the Bible says that we believe with our heart and we don’t believe with our mind. Believing with our mind is simply mental ascent. But believing with our heart, having pure faith in our heart, that is where the miracles happen.

SID: We’re going to come back in a moment and I want you to share the revelation that she had of how to believe with all of your heart, because that’s the reason that many of you are not having your prayers answered. There’s fear, there’s doubt, there’s unbelief. And even though you say, I believe, you really aren’t believing in your heart. We’ll be right back.

Sid: I am really overwhelmed of the value of this brand new tool Mike Shreve that you’ve just come out with.  It’s a book and 4 CD’s called “Sixty-Five Promises from God for Your Child.”  I believe that it’s a right on book because on yesterday’s broadcast I was talking to you about our school system, education system where there calling black white, they’re doing the opposite of God’s word. By the time someone graduates from college and has gone through out school system they will find systematically everything they’ve taught their children under-minded unless they’re undergirded by a faith that is Bible faith it’s not hope, it’s not struggling, it’s absolute knowing.  And that’s why you’re book, you’ve researched it, you’ve used it on your own family; you’ve gotten so many testimonies of people that have heard your teaching and they’re finding miraculous results going on.  I’ll tell you, share one quick testimony of someone that has used your teaching with their children or grandchildren.

Mike:  Well, I got an email recently from a woman who knows you very well, in fact twenty years ago you witnessed to her husband in an airport up in Baltimore and he came to the Lord.  And because of the kind of life that he was before he got saved it affected the children in that family.  The son became a heroin addict, but this woman became familiar with a particular revelation that God’s given me and she began praying the promises over her son who was a heroin addict and he was all messed up in a lot of ways couldn’t hold down a job just totally rebellious. Now she emailed me and she said “He’s off of heroin completely, he’s got a job a great job,” and she’s just believing God to do even more miracles in his life.  And so but she began claiming promises like Deuteronomy 30 verse 6 where God said “I will circumcise your heart and the heart of your seed to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul so you may live.”  You cannot legislate love; you can’t force anyone to love a concept, to love God, to love you.  You can’t make a child love you nor can you make a child love God.  But God said, “You claim this promise Deuteronomy 30 verse 6 I will circumcise your heart and the heart of your seed.”  Which to me means that God will cut away the worldly influence, the negative peer pressure; He’ll circumcise the heart, he’ll cut away, He’ll peel away the carnality that rules the fallen nature, and that He will implant within that child genuine love for God.  And she began claiming that promise and it wasn’t I guess it was about a year she kept praying, and it doesn’t always happen overnight, but he got off of heroin, God changed his life.

Sid: Would you explain for those because it’s a brand new book and it’s just literally off the press, would you explain what is accomplished in this book and the 4 CDs.

Mike:  Well I believe it’s a major assault against the enemy on a battlefield that every parent knows very well.  Because there is well, we have history of how for instance the enemy through Pharaoh tried to destroy Moses’ generation in order to prevent the seed that would come to bring deliverance.  And I believe the enemy has an orchestrated plan right now to destroy this generation with witchcraft, perversion, with all kinds of dark agendas. So we have to go to business with warring against the adversary.  The way you wind a battle with demonic forces is the words. That’s how Jesus fought the devil He would say “It is written, you don’t fight with your emotions, you don’t fight with logic, you fight with the word of God and when you find the specific promises, sixty-five promises that God’s given to our children, and you begin to wage warfare with those promises it definitely has an impact in the Spirit realm.  One of my favorite promises for backslidden children is Proverbs 11:21 “The seed of the righteous shall be delivered.”  The whole verse says “Though hand join in hand the wicked shall not go unpunished but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.”  And when a parent who has a backslidden bound, up child that is all bound up in the world and in sin begins to speak that over the their lives I believe that it disintegrates the yoke eventually.  The word of God will prevail in that child’s behalf.

Sid: Well, I have your book open I just opened it at random let me explain what I’m seeing; here is, and these again are 65 verses; you should have one book for your children and grandchildren and in some cases if you have great grandchildren.  First of all you have the scripture for salvation.  “Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”  Then you do very anointed teaching on this scripture so that someone will believe this they just won’t be saying words out in the atmosphere it will be from a heartfelt conviction.  And then you have, you’ve written the prayer for them and then you have a space form them to actually insert their child or their grandchild or great-grand child’s name.  And I can picture every day I’m looking at the gentleman that produces our television show Warren Marcus and I know he has children, and I know that he has grandchildren. I can see him getting one of these books and putting his daughters name, his son’s name, his grandchildren’s name and every day getting up early and sowing into his children and grandchildren something that money can’t buy.  And you know these 4 CDs that you’ve done Mike, God has given you such a supernatural level of belief from seeing what God did in your own family from the thousands of positive feedback from different people from all walks of life and all situations that have done this.  In fact I got to ask you a question, your son who was supposed to have mental damage and had such a traumatic birth.  And your daughter that was supposed…they wanted you to abort her and now you see them today and now you see them better than normal you see children of Godly parents should be way beyond normal. They should be extraordinary and tell me about when your son was 4 years old he had a dream about heaven.

Mike:  Oh yes, that fits in with the promise “All you shall be taught by the Lord and great shall be the peace of your children.”  One morning my son came down from his bedroom and he said “Mommy, daddy I died in my sleep last night and met Jesus and He showed me around Heaven.”  And of course he didn’t die but that’s how he interpreted it because it seemed to him as he had left his body and went to Heaven.  And he used words that were adult words. For instance he said “Jesus told him not to ever watch bad television and to always have compassion for all people.”  He looked at me quizzically and he said “Daddy what does compassion mean?”    

Sid: At four of course he doesn’t know what that word means.

Mike:   Yeah the very fact that he didn’t know what the word meant let me know that it was a legitimate experience and I told him I said, “Well, that’s love feels the suffering of other people.”  And so that was a real transformational experience for him. I had been claiming that passage of scripture.  I’ve always searched through the promises of God there’s 7,487 promises in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, but there’s 65 that belong to our children.  And one of my favorites is Deuteronomy 7:9 where the Bible says “He is a faithful God who keeps covenant and mercy with them that love him to a thousand generations.”  A generation is either 40 years or a 100 years; there’s controversy on that.  Well if it’s 40,000 years we don’t have that much time but God says for 40 millennia there will be hovering over of covenant and mercy over those that had come forth from your family-line long before you will be forgotten there will be people in this world with a reservoir of mercy hovering over their lives, if you’re in a relationship, a submitted relationship with God.  And so if the impact last that long it’s certainly going to hover over my sons, and daughters my grandsons, my granddaughters.

Sid: Just very briefly you prayed this way with your daughter for a month for her to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. At age 6 briefly what happened to her?

Mike:  Well, actually I prayed a very specific verse or two verses Isaiah 44 verses 3 and 4.  Where God said “I will pour water on him who is thirsty and floods on the dry ground and I will pour My Spirit on your descendants and my blessing on your offspring.”  Well I began to confess the promise over her, she was 5 years old at the time.  She was in one of my meetings where I was preaching and that night she fell out under the power of God was overwhelmed by the Spirit she crawled up in my arms and spoke in tongues for about 45 minutes and then she looked at me with tears streaming down out of her eyes and she said “Oh daddy Jesus filled me,” now would that have happened had I not claimed the promise?  I’m not so sure, there is such a power in knowing these promises and claiming them…

Sid: Oh Mike we’re out of time.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Ron and Glenda Pettey. Ron dies on the operating table. He’s instantly in heaven. There’s a registration desk. An angel looks through the book. His name is not there. He causes, as he says, a ruckus. I don’t blame him. I would cause a ruckus too. But Ron, there were people on earth praying for you. Tell me about that.

RON: There was a lot of, what I’m calling, confusion in heaven. I had it thought of as a quiet, serene, beautiful place, and when I got there, it was a lot of noise, like walking into a large auditorium. A large auditorium and hearing everybody talk at one time. And I didn’t understand what it was. The person behind this desk asked me…

GLENDA: I think you asked him, “What is all this noise?”

RON: Yeah, and this person behind the desk said “Don’t you know?”

RON: I said “No, I don’t. Tell me what it is.” These were all intercessory prayers coming up on my behalf.

SID: So all the noise that you were hearing were people praying for you to not die.

GLENDA: Right.

RON: In disbelief, I said “You’ve got to be kidding me. I don’t know this many people.” The person behind the desk said “Would you like to hear one?” A prayer was drawn out. I was drawn to it, basically, and I heard every word that man was praying. And it was verified, because I think two Sundays before, they had started recording their messages, and it was all on tape.

SID: So when you heard it, it was word-for-word? Actually, as I understand it from the book,
you said the prayer, and then you listened to it? Is that what happened?

GLENDA: Exactly. That’s exactly what happened. So Mabry Cain, our friend, said “Well we prayed for you a lot of times. I don’t remember a particular time.” So Ron explained again, said the prayer, quoted him an exact phrase, which was a unique phrase, and then they found the tape, and it matched exactly. SID: You had so many wonderful experiences in heaven. One had to do with, you had a stillborn baby. Tell me about that.

RON: I’ll let… Ok. I’m sorry.

GLENDA: Ron relives his testimony, his story, every time we’re asked to share it. And that’s a very difficult part. He heard children’s voices, and one child’s voice was drawn out above the others. He tried to walk near to this barrier, but he could not pass through. He could not see the children, he could hear them playing as if playing in water, a stream. They sounded very happy. But he immediately knew that voice drawn out was our son, Jason. And as you walked toward the wall, or the barrier…

RON: This very large, authoritative angel stood in my way; put his hand over my face. It was a large hand, because it covered my entire face. He said “He’s fine, he’s taken care of. Now move back.” And I did. I moved back to the table where my name wasn’t in the book. I moved back to that table.

SID: Glenda, the thing in his story… It’s an overwhelming story, about the children in heaven.

GLENDA: Right. The next scene Ron was aware of were many thousands of people walking in the same direction. It was a corridor of people. Ron looked ahead to see where they were going, and Jesus was there, seeming to receive them. The majority of the people were children, children of all sizes and ages, with adults sprinkled throughout the crowd. You also saw children carrying something in their hands.

RON: What these children were carrying were other children. What I saw was not other children, I saw a miniature adult in their hands; what these children would’ve become if they’d have not been aborted or stillborn.

SID: Ron, you made eye contact with a young man in heaven. Tell me about that. It was very significant.

RON: This young man, almost in a mischievous way, said “I made it, I made it, I made it. And you didn’t.”

GLENDA: As he was walking along in the crowd, you made eye contact.

RON: He walked up to the Lord. Now the Lord was there. He passed through the Lord into heaven. I just… The Bible just came alive, because it says the only way to enter into heaven is through Jesus Christ Himself. That’s the only way.

SID: And what did the Lord tell you about this young man?

RON: He said…

GLENDA: Two words.

RON: Two words: “Remember this.” I thought I was supposed to remember that young man, and I would never forget him. I still don’t, to this day.

SID: But there was a reason that Jesus said that, and it’s so amazing. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back after this word.

On It’s Supernatural: Julie True is releasing the sounds of heaven through the music that God gives her. When people hear Julie’s music, they experience peace and rest. The supernatural becomes normal, and many experience the presence of angels.

Do angels exist? Are healing miracles real? Is there life after death? Can people get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 25 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. I had an experience with Julie True. I was interviewing her on radio, and after I interviewed her, there was a tangible… I don’t mean just something in my mind, I mean tangible. You could touch it. It was peace. She has found that when she sings, there’s like a portal from heaven coming to earth, flooding people. In this world, the way… I mean just be human. Just breathe a few times and you’ll find challenges in this world. Challenges in the economy. Challenges with traffic. Challenges with family. Challenges with finance. Just plain challenges.

If you could just bask in that presence… It’s the presence of God, is what it is. Julie, I don’t think you can answer this question, but I have to ask you anyway. How come this happens when you sing?

JULIE: When I get quiet and still and start to sing, I always feel the peace of God.

SID ROTH: You know what’s so amazing? It’s sort of like, every one of us has gifts inside of us. Like the last thing in the world I ever wanted to do was be on television behind a microphone. Absolute last thing in the world. But, through circumstances, I found myself in that position. But it’s almost as if we get sabotaged in our gifting before we even know we have the gifting. Now Julie, when you went to church and wanted to use – I mean you’re a fabulous musician – you wanted to use an instrument to worship God, what did they tell you?

JULIE: That was not allowed. The way I grew up, it was believed that it was not pleasing to God; that under the New Testament, instruments were not part of that, because it said to sing and make melody in your heart to the Lord.

SID: We had a Hebrew word that explains what you’re saying right now. You know what that Hebrew word is? Mashuga. It means crazy. You’ve got to be crazy. The whole purpose is for us to have intimacy with God and worship God. Your CD, your music – I’m going to use an expression the teens use – is hot.

I mean literally so hot, there was this woman in Canada who got this particular CD before she even…

Now this is hot, before she even… Well, I’ll let you hear it in her words. Let’s go to that.

When I went down to get the mail, there was only one package. As soon as I just opened the corner,

I didn’t even see the CD, the cover of it or anything, the power of God came on me really strong.

I nearly fell on the floor. I was able to get to the chair, to fall on the chair rather than the floor.

I started to weep. It was so incredibly beautiful, it was like a pure and holy weeping. It wasn’t a painful, sorrowful weeping, it was like a healing weeping. I dashed into the living room and put it on my CD player, and when I started to praise the Lord, something else incredible happened to me. I was praising God in a way I never praised God before. It wasn’t in words, but it was in the sound of my voice. It was so different. I knew there were angels. I knew the room was full of angels, and I was kind of afraid to open my eyes,

because the presence of God was all over me. I just felt the love of God, the peace of God, and I just felt so comforted.

SID: Now when you hear that, Julie, that is wild.

JULIE: That is wild. She hadn’t even heard it yet. I mean she had not started playing it yet.

SID: The thing that I find when I listen to your music, I feel so peaceful, I feel so restful. Do you hear this from other people?

JULIE: Yes. Peace and rest, helping people sleep, babies being able to sleep. That’s a big part of the kind of feedback I’ve gotten.

SID: On this CD, you can bottle it, it’s so tangible. You’re going to hear this and experience it for yourself.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. It’s so good to have a studio audience. My guest, David Herzog, his father is Jewish. And at 13, he had a Bar Mitzvah like no Bar Mitzvah you’ve ever seen. It wasn’t fountain pens. It wasn’t all a big party. He had a visitation from the Messiah of Israel and he was commissioned to teach on the Glory. He understood by going to Heaven what the Glory or the manifest presence of God, is—when God invades a place. He got revelation of this and he’s known, it’s interesting. It was…the word “glory” was mentioned in his visitation and that’s what he’s known for teaching throughout the world. When he teaches on the Glory, and I can tell you I’m an eye witness to this, this isn’t second hand. I literally was sitting in front of a woman with grey hair and all of a sudden I saw brown hair start just radiating from her. Throughout the course of the night it was turning browner and browner. I have seen people lose weight instantly in this glory realm. People, now this I haven’t seen, but I got reports of people that did not have hair, hair would come out. People that had metal in their body, the metal would turn to bone. David Herzog, now this is absolutely ridiculous. We have in the studio audience a man that had a meeting just a couple of weeks ago, invited you to speak and they kept adding up the total of the offering they took. And the reason they kept adding it up is it kept getting larger. This should not happen.

DAVID: It’s a great problem to have when you have to keep counting.

SID: I mean, how would you like to count your money every night and see it multiply. Are there any accountants out there? That will blow your mind. So David, tell me this encounter you had at Bar Mitzvah age.

DAVID: I was 13 years old at this youth camp and they said, “Who wants the Holy Spirit?” I said, “I do. I do.”

Man 1: Alright then, guys, let’s get up and walk this way.

DAVID: I ran up there, waiting in the line. And this guy in front of me starts crying before we got to the front to get prayer. And I said, “Why are you crying? Does it hurt?” He goes—

“No. It feels great.”

DAVID: I thought it hurt because he was crying.

Boy: It feels great.

DAVID: Why would a guy cry unless it hurts. So I waited. Suddenly this warmth came on my body and I started crying, and I felt this pure liquid love. And suddenly I was taken to Heaven and I saw the thrones of God, I saw the Father, the son. And suddenly this voice came out and said, “You’re going to travel for my glory.” And I was just, I think all night I was praying in tongues, which is a foreign language from Heaven, and I couldn’t stop praying. And I knew from that day something changed my life when I saw Heaven.

SID: Tell me the first miracle of note that occurred after this experience.

DAVID: I was asked to teach a little group of young people. They were like maybe seven or eight years old on a Sunday morning. So I taught them from this manual that they gave me. I got kind of bored teaching from the manual. So I kind of went off the script. And I said, “Listen, kids, let’s just pray for someone that’s sick. Don’t tell the pastor because I might get in trouble. But let’s just pray and see what happens. Don’t tell him I didn’t follow the weekly thing because they might not like that.” And so a little girl comes out and says, “Look at my leg, it’s so short compared to the other one. I’ve got scoliosis.” And I said, “Sure, let’s pray for that and see what happens.” And I closed my eyes, and my first miracle, and her leg instantly began to grow out, and the kids began screaming, “Look at her leg!” And I opened my eyes and her leg had grown out, but I had missed watching my first miracle.

SID: That’s okay. You’ve had many since. So David literally goes to Bible school and then he hears God tell him to go to France. Now I have to tell you, if I was picking countries, no offense for those watching us right now in France, I would not have picked France. That is a graveyard for people that talk about God. And so David, no one knows him, would you believe he had the longest standing revival move of God’s spirit in France in 50 years. But he had to get a revelation from God on how to have this move of God’s spirit in this graveyard, so to speak. What did God tell you?

DAVID: I remember when that revival hit right before I said, “God, I’m so desperate. I’m so hungry.” I took time off. I began to seek the Lord, to pray. But one of the things God showed me when I was in France, I said, “Lord, how do we touch this country? It’s so hard.” He said to me, I went on a fast, and He said during the fast, “Here’s the secret. You do what Paul did.” Paul was the expert on touching the Roman Empire, which is Europe. He said, “He went to the Jew first.” And He says, “I go to the Jew first to make them jealous and win some of them.” And in return God would magnify His ministry to the gentiles. It says it right there: “I magnify my ministry to the gentiles by making the Jews jealous and saving some.” So I went to Israel. I led 13 people to the Lord. When I got back I had non-stop revivals for the next five years every single week.

SID: What types of things did you see happen?

DAVID: Crazy things. In that revival a girl was picked up off the ground 13 centimeters, lifted and floated in the air. During the revival she was weeping for souls. She flipped over like a pancake and she was heavyset, too, a heavy-weight girl, so it was even a bigger miracle. And she stayed there for a few seconds, went back down on the ground. At that moment—

SID: Wait a second. If she was 90 pounds that would have been a big miracle.

DAVID: And at that moment all these young people ran up to be saved and demons are coming out of them. And that launched that six-month revival, which was the longest running in 50 years in one place.

SID: When we come back you’re going to find out how everything speeds up in the Glory. You’re going to find out, as a matter of fact, I believe that some of you are going to actually, and I’m hearing it, are going to get gold teeth from Heaven. Has this happened in many of your meetings?

DAVID: It happens almost every week.

SID: Hold that thought. We’ll be right back.

SID: You know, many religious people, they’re used to going to a congregation and having a few songs and then the announcement, and then the offering, and then the message, and then lunch. But Roy Fields, you will worship sometimes for two hours. And you said to me that there is such, the atmosphere so changes, that it activates the promises of God without you even saying anything, just in that worship. Tell me about the person that had a burn on a leg.

ROY: I was in a meeting a few years back, and this 15-year old kid approached the stage and he had a bad fire scar on like his leg. And in the middle of worship, he screamed out, he felt pain again in that leg. And when he lifted it up the scar had disappeared, and he came up and showed everybody. I’ve been a skeptic, even as a Christian, because you want to see the real. When I saw that, I went, okay.

SID: What would you do?

ROY: It got my attention.

SID: All right. This amazes me. In four different locations, four different children saw the same thing. What did they see?

ROY: Well we were here in a meeting. I know what you’re referring. We were in meetings. We had about 8000 people in the arena, and these four different children with their parents, from four different states, as you said, came to the back of the table to tell me a message. One of them was on video. The other three were told to me by our staff. And they all said, while I was leading worship, that there was a huge angel standing behind me with a big sword, and it was on fire, and he was just waving it like this. I have never seen an angel. But when all four say that, I don’t have to.

SID: Okay. Tell me about this song, because I happen to love it. It’s the song, how did “In the Presence of Angels” happen?

ROY: Well I was in a house in Destin, Florida, and a boat captain was there, his house. I had done a meeting in his house. And at the end of the night after the meeting was over I was still caught up in worship. Everybody had gone home. I don’t sleep much, Sid. I don’t get a lot of sleep. My mind, my heart, my spirit is always going. In the middle of the night, I was just worshiping the Lord by myself, wasn’t trying to write a song. I don’t try to write a song. And in the middle of worship, once again, I heard this melody. I heard [singing] da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. [talking] I mean, I just, I didn’t have a huge vision, but I could picture it in my mind, as they say, you have your mind’s eye. I pictured this massive throne room with angels, and I mean multitudes and multitudes of angels were just like dancing in this kind of order. It was kind of like ballroom dancing, except not with partners. It was just everybody and it was all to God. And it was [singing] Holy, holy, holy, worthy, glory, glory [talking] over and over. I must have sang in the middle of the—until, I don’t know, three o’clock in the morning. I looked down at my watch. I had been at the keyboard for two and half hours. I wasn’t even aware of the time.

SID: You know, I could listen to that song for hours.

ROY: I have.

SID: I’m sure. I want to release you to sing, “In the Presence of Angels” and I want to release you to be freer than you’ve ever been before, because I believe you are in the presence of angels.

Roy [music, singing] This is a realm of your glory. This is a realm of your grace. I can feel your mighty power. It is moving in this place. We’re in the presence of angels with God’s glory on their wings. Like the voice of many waters I can hear the angels sing, singing holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. This is a realm of your glory. This is a realm of your grace. I can feel your mighty power. It is moving in this place. We’re in the presence of angels with God’s glory on their wings. Like the voice of many waters I can hear the angels sing, singing holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. You are worthy, worthy. You are worthy, worthy. Show us your glory, glory.

SID: I don’t know what’s going on with you, but I can tell you the presence of God is just penetrating me when Julie sings. It’s almost like in the invisible world your music is going into people. Your words are going into people. You told me, in the barn years you learned to lose yourself in the Spirit. What is that? What does that mean to you, lose yourself in the Spirit? What goes on?

JULIE: Well as soon as I sit down at the keyboard and begin to sing, it’s like I enter another realm and everything else in the world that I’m worried about just falls away. And I love that place. It’s like there’s no place like being in God’s presence. It’s peace. It’s rest. It’s freedom.

SID: Doesn’t it amaze you that you get all of these reports in of what’s going with people, and all you’re doing is letting them know what you do when you lose yourself in His presence.

JULIE: Yeah, I know. It is incredible.

SID: Tell me about one person’s marriage that was healed.

JULIE: Well there was a couple that they had, there had been betrayal on both parts. And the husband decided to start soaking, and he just played my music day and night. And he said that it just softened his heart, and he was able to forgive, and ultimately there was reconciliation. But I think that’s a lot of what soaking does. It just, it soaks off all of the hard places on your heart when you soak in the presence of God, and you know, you go into a different realm that is outside of what your mind might tell you to do, and it gives the Spirit of God time to work.

SID: Tell me briefly about that salesman.

JULIE: Oh yeah. That was cool.

SID: This music takes care of every problem, it seems. Tell me about it.

JULIE: Yeah. This lady was telling about her husband who had taken a part time sales job, and he was really uncomfortable and intimidated by what he was asked to do. And so he started playing my music while he went out on sales calls, and started having incredible sales. He ultimately was hired full time, and he became the top salesperson in their business. And when people would ask him, what’s your secret, he would say, “I played Julie True’s music.” And they were like, who? And so it was pretty amazing.

SID: Your heart is to go deeper into God’s love. Is that really what you’re goal is?

JULIE: Yeah. Because I feel like the core, the thing, the anchor to our whole soul is knowing that we’re loved by God. And if we don’t spend time with Him we don’t know how much he loves us. And the more that you get to know Him and understand how much He loves you, the more that you want to worship Him, and the more time you want to spend with Him. And so, I love that.

SID: Well I want you to lose yourself in the spirit right now. And I want you to hear Julie True, “Where the Waters Flow”. And my Bible says, in Ezekiel, “Wherever the waters flow there’s healing.” Julie True.

Julie [music, singing]: I want to go deeper, Lord into your love tonight. I want to go deeper, Father, into your love tonight. I want to go deeper, Father, into your love tonight. I want to go down to where the waters flow, go to where the waters flow. I want to go deeper, deeper, deeper where the waters flow, where the water seeps into every crack and crevice in my heart. I want to go deeper. I want to go deeper, Lord, into the heart of love, my Father’s love for me. I want to live out of your love for me. Deeper, Lord, deeper Lord, deeper Lord. Oh let the water rise, let the water rise. Let the river rise up in thee. Oh…

SID: My guest, Steve Hill is so hungry for God, he went to the various moves of God throughout the world and he received the same thing these great men and women of God had. And he went to a church, a single church in Pensacola, Florida, and from all over the world, because the word got out, the power of God was there, four million people came to that one single church. Well the devil tried to knock him out. He was on his deathbed. He was preparing the funeral arrangements. And a great miracle happened and he also was given, at that time, a vision. It was like he could see it happening, and it is what is about ready to happen to Planet Earth that he literally feels everyone must understand this vision. Hello. I’m here with Steve Hill, and I’m looking at almost like his rap sheet. At age 10, his dad starts him drinking beer, alcohol. By 12, 13, he’s into hard drugs, injecting drugs into his veins, arrested 13 times. You know, when I read about myself I can’t believe that that was me. You must feel the same way about yourself. That’s not even you.

STEVE: It’s a miracle that all of us are alive and that we made it through it. You know, one of my favorite things to do when I’m in my hometown area, when I would witness to like young men and women that are involved in drugs and alcohol, I would take them, of course if it was a girl, I would take them to somebody else to the graves of my dead friends. And I would talk to them about Carlos. I’d talk to them about Billy. I’d say Billy was 19. You’ll meet a similar fate if you do the same by using those drugs. And I would witness because no one ever believes it’s going to happen to them. No one ever believes. The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. But he’s patient. He’ll take you on a journey. If he can finally get you there and drop into Hell, that’s his final goal, and it’s a goal he had for my life.

SID: He had a total transformation, and as a result, he had, first of all, there was a key that I noticed. You were mentored by some of the best men of God: David Wilkerson, Leonard Raven-Hill.

STEVE: David Wilkerson, Leonard Raven-Hill are two of the men, to me, they’re my spiritual fathers. And people ask me, they say, why are you the way you are. Well we’re all products of who we’ve been hanging around. And that’s why I say, pick your friends carefully. Okay. And David Wilkerson put me through Bible school, met Leonard Raven-Hill. Nicky Cruz taught us on evangelism. So I was raised around, Raven-Hill was friends with Smith-Wigglesworth.

SID: So it goes on and on. It’s all connected. But another thing I noticed about, you were hungry for God. Whatever he heard there was a move of God. He was there. I mean, a lot of people say, if God wants to do something to me, He’ll come to me. Well he can and will. But I’m so hungry for God. If I hear He’s somewhere, I’m out there. That’s the way Steve was.

STEVE: See, it’s so non-biblical for people to say if God’s going to move, He’s got to come to me. Who do we think we are to say to God. He’s already come. He’s already come down. Okay. And He set it up. We celebrate Christmas Day. He set up the whole pattern. The baby Jesus was there. The shepherds had to come to him. Later on, the wise men had to come to him. And I always tell people, God gave the first altar call. He sets it up to where we got to go to Him. And so I have pursued the Lord all my life.

SID: Let’s take you to Argentina, the revival. You went there. They’ve been in revival more years than I can even remember. But tell me, when you saw Carlos Annacondia.

STEVE: We lived there for seven years during the peak of the Argentine revival, and it’s still moving on. God is still moving. We saw churches go from 500 to 20,000. Just amazing. Started, my wife and I planted 13 churches, built an orphanage. But Carlos Annacondia, when I got around him and [Spanish], and those that speak Spanish, I speak Spanish fluently, my wife and I lived there seven years. But Carlos was insane, and if you’re watching Carlos, that’s a respectful word for you. Okay. He was insane for the things of God. And he’s a man that owns a nuts and bolts factory. And so anyone that feels like you’re common, okay, look at this man. And I went to one of his crusades, in a nutshell, because we talk all day about this man. Went to his crusade, 20, 30,000 out there in an open field, a bunch of just hanging, naked light bulbs hanging everywhere. No big fanfare. Just this man that had authority. He had authority over darkness. And I would watch him in front of tens of thousands of people, and he would go, [Spanish], in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, [Spanish], I bind you, Satan. And as far as the eye can see, people were hit by the power and thrown the ground. People that were walking down the sidewalks not even paying attention to him would be thrown to the ground, start shaking under the power. And I saw this, and I went, Jesus, whatever this man has, Jesus, Peter, shall heal the sick. And this is the closest thing I’ve ever seen to that. I want what he has, and you’d better get hungry, my friend. If you want to be used of God, you got to have a hunger. You got to have a craving for that. And I got that.

SID: Steve went to these various moves of God. I was hungry. I was overwhelmed with what I saw. Obviously, a lot of other people worldwide were overwhelmed. Four million to that little church in Pensacola, Florida because the power of God was there. Tell me about that girl that had cancer.

STEVE: There are so many stories. I want to talk about this vision that God has just given me, because many, you’re looking for these peaks in your life. The peak in your life is in front of you, not behind you. Okay. There’s more to God than what you have. But the Brownsville revival, we saw millions of people come through. I preached there for five years, saw four million people come through. But they would come in jets. They would come in private jets. They’d some on trains. They’d hitchhike. They came from all over because we had the news, CNN and all these guys covered it. And so they brought the lost in. But this one little girl, 15 years old, came in. She couldn’t have weighed 80 pounds, had a little baseball cap on, dying of cancer. A long story in a nutshell, we did something we never did. We brought her on the platform, thousands of people there that night, and I just felt of the Lord that we needed to lay hands on her. She was going to die. She was sent there as a last request. She wanted to go to Brownsville, not Disney. She didn’t want to go anywhere else but the Brownsville revival. Laid hands on her. Two weeks later, this is before Internet and all this kind of stuff, Internet was out, but it wasn’t Facebook and all, her father sends us a letter, “Just did the PET scans, just did all the scans. All the cancer is gone.” And now years later, we just contacted her and she’s graduated from University. She’s doing fantastic. All the cancer is gone. Now remember, she was given up for dead. And so we’ve just seen so many miracles. I believe, that’s why I love your program, It’s Supernatural. If you don’t believe in the supernatural, you don’t believe in Jesus. I want to say that again. If you don’t believe in the supernatural, you don’t believe in Jesus.

SID: Now you see why the devil tried to take him out. And let me tell you. Something happened to him. I observed him before he developed cancer and it was terminal. There was no chance of him surviving. He was preparing for his funeral, making arrangements with his wife. He is literally on his deathbed. And he cries out to Jesus, and he says, “Jesus, if you want to take me, take me. But if you leave me here and give me my strength back I will win a million souls for you.” And guess what? God answered his prayer. God gave him a vision for the last days. You’d better listen to this.

STEVE: I recently had a supernatural visitation from the Lord. I am under mandate to share with everyone. It’s tearing me up even as we talk right now, because God, I was in Heaven devotions and I was sitting on my couch. I could take you to the exact place. I was sitting on my couch and the Lord, it was early in the morning. No one else was awake in the house. And I closed my eyes and I began to see this color vision come down and just, a vision is just a supernatural experience from God. And He began to download this in my spirit. And I saw this resort, an incredible ski resort, and I opened my eyes because it was so real, Sid. And I opened my eyes and it disappeared. So I closed them again and I began to shake because it was like watching a movie. And I looked up, and I saw above the ski resort, I saw this mountain of snow. Now I’m a skier. I saw this mountain of snow, but it was piled up. It was more than what we needed to ski. And the Lord began to speak to me about the End Times, that this mountain of snow is all the false teaching that is falling on the church right now. And if we don’t do something about it, if we don’t destroy these layers and layers, and layers of snow then it’s going to come crashing down on innocent Christians. And in this vision, the resort was the church. These were people that just came. They came, they paid to be at the resort. We give tithes to be at church. Innocent people are going to die if we don’t do something about this. I can’t believe it’s happening in my lifetime. My daughter, who was in Bible school, one of the teachers stood up and said to the students, said that “Once you’re a Christian you are free to do anything you want. You can do anything you want. You’re free to sin.” And so my daughter is sitting out there and he’s saying, “You’re free to jump in bed with your boyfriend, you’re free to drink, you’re free to do anything you want because the blood covers it all.” And then the deification of man, that is the worship of man. Look at this world today. We’re putting on pedestals all these ministers and all these politicians. It’s a set up for the Antichrist, because in the last days, we are going to worship man, and we’re going to look to him for all the answers. I’m going to tell you right now, Sid, you see it. I see it. It’s clear as day. I can’t believe other people cannot see what’s going on in the world. But we got to get back to something.

SID: And what is that?

STEVE: And that is what we’ve got to do with this avalanche, the spiritual avalanche that could kill millions. We are responsible as leaders, as generals to destroy. And what I saw in the vision, I saw helicopters, I saw snowmobiles and I saw anti-tank weapons blowing up these mountains. And it was as clear as watching a television program. Snow was crumbling down. It was under control because these generals were blowing it up themselves before it blew up and came down, and killed people. I got on the phone, soaked already with tears. My phone was sticking and I talked to the Colorado Ski Patrol and I shared with them my vision. And he said, “Everything you saw, Mr. Hill, is exactly what we do. You saw the ski patrol in action. We’re trying to save their lives.” And he said, “I personally man an anti-tank weapon and my shells shoot five miles, seven, eight kilometers into the mountains to blow them up.” And I’m listening. And this just happened. This is not five, 10, 20 years ago. Then he said this and I close. He lifted his voice like an evangelist and he said, “Can I say something to you, Mr. Hill?” And I said, “Yes sir.” And his voice began to crack like mine is cracking. He said, “Do you want to know why they die?” And I said, “Yes, why do they die?” He said, “Because they don’t listen to me.” He said, “They refused to listen to me. I tell them don’t go up to that mountain, but the go anyway. They go on their snowmobiles. They go on their helicopters.” And he said, “They’re dropped off onto the mountains.” And then he said, “An hour later, I’m digging their corpse out of the snow.” And I told him, I said, “Thank you very much.” And I said, “I do the same thing. I spend my life trying to save lives.” And I bought an avalanche probe, which is a long, long, long, long pole that you drive in the snow. It’s the most wicked device I’ve ever owned in my life. It’s to find dead bodies. It’s to find dead bodies and hopefully find one that’s got just an ounce of breath left, a backslider, spiritually speaking, a prodigal, spiritually speaking, of someone who’s been covered by all this false teaching. And many of you that are watching this you know exactly what I’m talking about. You know what you’re doing is wrong. You know what you’re listening to is wrong. It’s feel good teaching. I am warning you right now, if you are in a church that is allowing you to be free to do anything you want, run for your life. If you’re not in a church that is preaching the whole Gospel, all the words in red, run for your life. If you’ve fallen away from the traditional teachings of your Christian life, get back. Get back to what you used to believe in when you were first a child of God.

SID: I’ve been very burdened over this. I didn’t have a vision. But many godly men and women are burdened over, I’ll call it what it is, what Steve did, it’s false teaching that is flooding the airways, flooding Christianity. But I’m going to tell you something else. I’m going to turn Steve loose to pray for the same power that was on Jesus that rose, Messiah Jesus from the dead that rests on him, that’s about ready to rest on you. Don’t go away.