Sid Roth

LARRY: Welcome back to Something More. I’ve got Judy Franklin with me, and we’re talking about how you can actually experience and encounter God specifically God’s invitation for you to know, and experience, and engage Him in the Heavenly realms. You know, Judy just shared a powerful story her testimony of how God began a process in her life of actually taking her in to the Heavenly realms where she would experience God, and Jesus. And this wouldn’t just be concept stuff; this wouldn’t just be in her imagination. I mean  Judy, how did that all play out? Like how did you actually experience God, in this realm? Was it a physical experience? Well, I mean could you explain the nature of what it was like?

JUDY: I’ve been trying to explain it for 19 years now.

LARRY: Well we’re going to figure it out today.

JUDY: [laughs] Yes!

LARRY: No; nah. [laughs]

JUDY: [laughs] You know, you have a spirit; everybody has a spirit; and I found the Scripture, in Ephesians, where Paul is saying, “I pray that the eyes of your heart would be enlightened”, and I thought, “eyes of your heart”, what is that? So I did a study on it, and the “heart” actually means your spirit!

LARRY: Mm.

JUDY: “I pray that the eyes of your [spirit would] be enlightened….” So that well my spirit has eyes!

LARRY: Mm.

JUDY: And then I thought about when Jesus was always saying, “He who has ears … let him hear.” I know there’s deaf people, but not that many that He would say it as often as He did. I realized what He was doing was talking about our spiritual ears –

LARRY: Mm!

JUDY: and how we can hear from Him! And then I know that when you speak in tongues, that you’re speaking a spiritual language.

LARRY:  Hmm.

JUDY: And in 1 Corinthians, it says the “… mind is unfruitful”, because the spirit is speaking.

LARRY: As we as we close out this segment, why do you would you tell the people why it’s so important to have an experiential relationship with God; where it’s not just information, but it’s a relationship. And there and it’s creating that hunger, “I want to experience God”.

JUDY: Well the way the Father did it with me is He I was sitting, minding my own business, and He said, “Ronald Reagan.”

LARRY: [laughs]

JUDY: And he was our President at that time, –

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: and I just said, “Yeah, he’s our President.”

LARRY: [laughs]

JUDY: And then He said , “You can read about Ronald Reagan everyday”; I said, “Yes, in books and newspapers”. He said, “You can hear about him every day”; I said, “Yeah, television news, and radio”. And He said, “You’re affected by what he does”; I said, “Oh yeah. He signs bills and laws into our life”. And then He said, “How well do you know him?”

LARRY: Mm.

JUDY: “I don’t know.”

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: He says, “You can read about Me every day.”

LARRY: Mm.

Right now we just pray right now for those individuals that are in our mind that needs a miracle. Father we intercede right now, Father, that You would use our ears to hear, to see and eyes to see and our bodies to be conduits to release Your glory! I release glory right now! I release the power and the virtue of God! This will be a season, Father, open their prophetic senses, open their senses, open their eye gates, open their ear gates, open them up to a world in the spirit! Father, allow them to ascend to a new place in the spirit! Father, it’s not just for one person or one individual. You’re raising up companies of prophetic people! You’re raising up a prophetic generation! You are raising up in this hour in the Last Days You said that you will pour out Your spirit upon all flesh and Your sons and Your daughters will prophesy! These are the people that will do great exploits! These are the ones that You’re raising up! There is a special group, a special people and Father I thank You that we’ll be stewards of Your glory and I thank You that we will be ones that will not be silent! Jezebel will no longer keep us silent but we will speak and we will prophesy and we will not, I break spirit off of those that does not want to speak. I remove the muzzle off of their mouths. I remove the muzzle that says they will not speak again! I release them into an ability and a purpose that they will rise up and be the prophets in the prophetic generation and the ministers and the evangelists allow everyone to move in a dimension of the supernatural. Well these are the Days of Elijah, of a double portion, these are the days of an outpouring of Your Spirit. These are the days that we’re going to see great resurrections. We’re going to see signs and wonders that we have never known before! These are the people that You’re raising up! There is a wind that is blowing right now! Angels of the Lord is encamped around us! Allow us to move into destiny and purpose and right now Father we receive it! Open our eyes, just lay hands on your eyes, those who are watching, those who are laying hands on your eyes. Father we activate our eye gates that we will see into the heavenly realm. That we will see prophetically and we will begin to see clearly. Give us 20/20 vision in the realm of the spirit! Give us bulls-eye accuracy! Give us clarity of thought. Father, in Jesus’ name, just lay hands on your ears now. Father, in Jesus’ name we lay hands on our ears. Father, open up our ear gates. Allow us to see, allow us to hear, allow us to discern, Father in Jesus’ name! And I decree and declare that we will have a new frequency that we will know and tune into heaven’s channel, to heaven’s radio station to know what’s on the Father’s heart and mind and will speak it and declare it with boldness. Father, give them boldness in Jesus’ name! Lay hands on your belly. Father right now in Jesus’ name we stir up the gifts that’s on the inside of them. We fan the flames! We fan the flames that’s blowing right now! We fan it and stir up the gifts that’s within us! Those gifts right now. So Father I bless Your people in Jesus’ mighty name! And I give you praise and glory! If you believe that come on clap those hands!

AUDIENCE: Woo! Woo! (CLAPPING)

HAKEEM: Come on! Claps those hands!

SANDRA: I believe with all my heart, that that anointing has been released for miracle, signs, and wonders to happen in your life. I believe if you just lift your hands and begin to praise him with everything in you and thank him, I believe that you begin to see the aches and pain leave your body. I believe tight muscles will be released. I believe that cancer will begin to shrink and dry up and get off of your body. I believe that hearts will begin to beat and rhythm in the name of Jesus.

SANDRA: I believe there’s not anything at any point anywhere, fogginess of eyes. And no matter what’s happening to you, ears will pop over, only because God’s in the miracle business and you are in agreement with him. Lord, you said in this end time season that we are in, in this great awaiting, you said that we are to have an expectancy of miracle, signs, and wonders. And that your people should be moving out in them and seeing these things happen on a daily basis, not just here, there, and yonder.

SANDRA: So Father God, I ask that you just release your power upon your people. I pray that by faith, they surrender father God, with expectancy in their heart to see you do things they’ve never seen you do. Yet it’s all over the Bible, that they just expect you to be is the supernatural God that you are, with signs and wonders happening. Every time they turned to the left or to the right, that they see things happen that they thought they would never ever see before. Things that are like dead end things. This cannot be changed. Oh yes, it can. We do not serve a dead end God.

SANDRA: And I’ll release upon you today, with all of the authority of the word of God, I release upon you, the healing power of God, pushing out the darkness, pushing out the sickness, pushing out the disease, pushing out the tumors, pushing out all of the things that the demonic forces that tried to bring you away. And most importantly, pushing out tradition and wrong teaching, that has come upon you, and you have believed that God is not still in the miracle working business. Yes, my friend, he is. He knows where you are, he loves you, and may you receive what he has for you simply by opening your heart and surrendering to him as your healer.

SID: Two more. Two more words. There are people with pain in their wrist. The pain is gone. And in their hands, I don’t fingers. Any pain you have in your hands, it’s gone. And neck, it’s gone. Prostates are being shrunk right now in Yeshua, that’s Jesus’ name.

SID: God heard that prayer. It’s been a lifetime pursuit for Warren Marcus. And Warren, there was a street preacher that wouldn’t leave you alone and you wouldn’t leave him alone. And at 21 you finally said a prayer to make Jesus your Messiah and Lord, and you proceeded. Still, you wanted to know more about God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the one true God. But one day something happened to answer that prayer. You got a phone call from a friend in Israel.

WARREN: Yeah. Rick Amato called me and he’s at the site where the pendant was discovered. This pendant was discovered and this ancient pendant… And he was so overwhelmed. He was weeping on the phone and I’m going, what’s going on with you, Rick? And he said, this pendant is 400 years older than the Dead Sea scrolls, what’s etched into it in the ancient paleo Hebrew. And he said, it’s that prayer in Numbers six. And he said, when it was prayed over me in Hebrew, I could feel like honey, oil being dripped from my head to my feet. Warren, my life has changed. His name is upon me. And I went, what is he talking about? What happened was, it said to me… As I started looking at this, I said, there’s got to be something about this prayer for my friend to be so affected. This Gentiles, reading the Old Testament, and I’m a Jew, why am I being infected? I had that prayer said over me by other people. I’ve had that prayer pronounced over me.

SID: I’ve had it prayed over me many times.

WARREN: Right. It’s a beautiful prayer. Maybe I should just share it. It’s Numbers six, 24. It’s a simple prayer. You can find it in your Bibles. The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious unto you. The Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. Now, that’s a beautiful prayer, but I didn’t have the experience that here, my friend, Rick Amato’s having. And I’m saying, how can I have that experience? Especially me, I’m already cognizant of the fact that God is real, from my childhood dream, from Ten Commandments, where I saw him on Mount Sinai. This thing that I felt, even when I received Yeshua, I can sense Yeshua personally, but the father, I knew about the father, but I didn’t know him.

SID: But you know what? There’s one more line after that prayer. And God says, he says he will put his name upon those that say this prayer. And in the Hebrew, my understanding is he will put his presence upon you. When God put his presence on the Jewish people for 40 years in the desert, what did that mean, as far as blessings?

WARREN: They are in the desert and they’re receiving this incredible favor, they’re receiving angelic protection, they have provision; manna, quail. When they got tired of eating manna of burgers, they got quail. The rock was hit. Water was provided in the middle of the desert to feed their flocks. They received incredible health. And also what was incredible, for 40 years, their shoes and clothes never wore out. Imagine the cleaning bills you could save, not having to buy new wardrobe.

SID: Tell me about that recent vision you had of shaking?

TIM: I saw five government angels in the service, I was just getting ready to preach. Five government angels, purple sash. And I was in the Spirit, I began to see portions of the White House falling off the side, like you see in the footage of earthquakes. Then I saw the state house, and then I saw the DOJ and the Supreme Court, portions of the building falling. Then I saw portions of tech giants falling, portions of the media crumbling, portions of education. And I knew something’s happening, and then Holy Spirit spoke prophetically that the shakeup had to do with the natural realm and the natural nations. But remember that in Hebrews, “Although the kingdoms and every kingdom can be shaken, your kingdom cannot be shaken.” And then he said, “This shaking will shake open capped wells of evangelism. It will shake open a new revival. It will shake open signs, wonders, and miracles. It will shake open mighty deliverance and it will shake open a change even in the governmental structures of your world.” The shaking has begun.

SID: Wow. There are divine moments in time when prophecy manifests on earth, Tim says this is your moment. And Tim is going to pray for your destiny, your family, their salvations and healing, next.

SID: All right, Tim Sheets. You talk that there’s a moment when assignments and alignments converge, what do you mean by that?

TIM: Well, Isaiah 55:11 says that the words that God gives us have assignments in them. And we are in a supernatural time when prophetic dreams, prophetic visions, prophetic words are all coming to a supernatural moment. I had a vision about angels dropping plumb lines in this particular moment to connect.

SID: In the natural what is a plumb line?

TIM: Okay, a plumb line is what they used to hold up, now they have lasers, but they would hold up the old plumb line with a pointed bobber at the end.

SID: Builders do this.

TIM: Builders would do that to align the building exactly right. And these angels were holding up plumb lines over churches all over the world. And it was like they had to have everything exactly right because they were connecting to a supernatural moment of destiny. Now in this supernatural time, angels are dropping the plumb lines to connect apostelates or New Testament—

DAVID: Now, there was no time for this to have been photoshopped, I’d seen this young lady at a few meetings prior, and I knew that she loved the Lord and she was just as much in shock and awe as we were to see that picture like that.

SID: So this particular woman’s expectation was sky high. That’s the purpose of these signs and wonders. And so what happened the next day?

DAVID: Thing about encounters is that they always lead to more encounters and more of Jesus. I might know Him like this one day, but that spirals up or it expands so I can know Him even more that day. And after the meeting, the young lady’s heart began to burn. She was looking at the picture that night. So the next day she came to the meeting, not only ready to take pictures and create memory stones of the tent revival, she came expecting to see God do something else in the supernatural. And we weren’t too far in the meeting when I look over and I lock eyes with her and I see her coming my way and I started getting goosebumps. I knew that she had something because her heart was so full of expectation to see God move. And so before the meeting began, she had come around the tent and looked in different places and was just taking pictures.

DAVID: And in one of the pictures, the one that she showed me, the cosmos, the stars, the heavenly glory had replaced the tent canopy. Now, this was a large wedding tent and it went up to the center and to a point it dips down again, went up whoa, to the point and dips down again. And what you should have seen in the picture was a very faded white tent canopy because the lights were on underneath it with worship going, but that’s not what you saw. When you looked at the picture, you saw the cosmos shining out of the tent canopy. Now, normally that would have been up in the sky behind the tent, but what she captured was a prophetic glimpse of everything that was happening in the spirit. She was able to capture in the picture with the glory in the heavenlies shining right through on the photograph.

SID: I have to tell you, I am so excited about this show. Yvon Attia, born in Egypt, raised in Australia, and you’ll hear when she speaks, an Egyptian Australian accent. At six, you experienced your first miracle.

YVON: Yes. So at the age of six, I fell from a three-story building, and—

SID: What did you fall on?

YVON: I fell on concrete slab.

SID: Three stories?

YVON: Three stories building. It was terrible. I was on my back, and I was in so much pain, but something amazing took place as I was falling. I was surrounded by angels. I remember what they looked like. They were my body shape, so they weren’t big angels. They were holding hands, they were in a circle, and there was glorious light coming out of them. And when I landed on my back with all the pain that I was in, I was telling everyone that I just saw angels. I mean, I was more fascinated with what I was seeing, more than the pain that was in my body.

YVON: But then I went to hospital, of course. And it became more real when I went to hospital, because I was diagnosed with, obviously, fracture in my spine. Doctor said to my parents that by tomorrow morning, she should be dead. Why? Because there is a big possibility of brain hemorrhage. And they even said x-rays are showing that the brain is swelling up. And then they said, “If she does survive that, then she will be quadriplegic, paralyzed from the neck down. She will never be able to walk because the spine is fractured.”

YVON: And at this time, there was dear believers. One of them is my grandfather, who was a minister. He did not receive that report. He did not receive it. And I remember him sitting next to my bed, and he was just crying out to God. And that’s a lot of the healing is just crying out to God, “God, would you do something? We will not accept that report.” And the presence of God was hovering in the room, hovering in the room.

YVON: The next morning, I was still alive. I mean, before, they we’re telling my parents, you need to start getting prepared for the funeral because it’s happening. But the next morning, “Oh, she’s still alive. What’s happening?” And so, that encouraged my parents, and it encouraged my grandfather, and they continued to pray, and the presence of God continued to hover around this bedroom. And I am totally, miraculously healed. There is nothing wrong with me. No one believes it.

SID: And at seven. Before your very eyes. Imagine this, a seven year old girl, she saw her uncle, who loved the Lord with all of his heart, become a martyr.

YVON: Yes. So I was seven, Sid, and in our street, we had a mosque. And that day, the imam of the mosque basically was preaching his Friday sermon, and he said that by the end of today, I want the blood of the Christians to reach knee-high. We didn’t think much of it, but they all came out of the mosque, unfortunately with swords, and knives and stick.

YVON: And towards the end of the day, we lost a lot of, obviously, the men in the village, including my uncle. He had come into our street to drop his wife, who was pregnant at the time, and I ran downstairs to give him a lemonade. And as I was giving, I literally turned around, he was on the floor, and he was slaughtered. He was gone. That left me horrified, broken, angry at God at the time. God, why did you…

ROBBY:  Yes. Father I thank You for Your glorious presence Lord and just as Moses said in Exodus 33: “Show me Your glorious presence.” Let Your glorious presence be known. I want toknow it. I don’t care about the land. I don’t care about the “bling” of God, the fancy things that we would pursue in the natural. But Lord, Your presence surpasses all that. So Lord I just thank You for that. And Lord we just say just let that presence be revealed. And I release the manifest presence of God right now! That tingling, that heat of the Spirit. Many of you are just feeling that tingling or heat in your hands or across the back of your neck. Some of you are feeling it even go down your legs and others of you your hearts are racing or your legs are starting to shake or your hands are starting to shake. That is the manifest presence of God. And Lord, we say more! More! Let it increase, Holy Spirit. As a prophet prayed double portion, we just say double portion right now! Turn it up, Holy Spirit. Turn it up! Increase just that manifest presence and that reality of God’s presence. I thank You for it, Father, and for that breakthrough of experiencing You. Even some that don’t know the Lord. Right now there’s some of you listening you don’t know Jesus but you’re feeling Him now. Right now! This is not psychosomatic. This is not hypnotism. This is not— This is Jesus right now manifesting on your physical body. Right now receive Him. Open up to the King of heaven. He is Lord of heaven and earth. Be filled with that right now. Be filled with that. And we thank You for that reality, Father. And we thank You that we can live in that. In Jesus’ name!

SID:  Okay, Robby. In about one minute I’d like you to explain to me what you mean by we are to follow the SLIGHTEST prompting by the Holy Spirit.       

ROBBY:  You know so many times we just think that the thoughts are our thoughts or feelings are our feelings and so much more it’s the Spirit of God. And whenever it’s in line with scripture, whenever it’s a prompting or a sense or oh I see that person that needs healing and I’ve got compassion, I need to, you know somebody needs to pray, that’s, that’s the open door that God has given for us to do that, to respond to that. He created these minds to receive messages from Him and this body to receive messages. And so move on those just out of your compassion. Simply that you feel the compassion for that person is the nudge of God to go because Jesus was moved with compassion and healed them all!

SID:  Then there are many people that are believers right now that have to get this mentoring because you don’t want all the years that Robby wasted to have to learn this information when you can get it right in front of you right now. I can’t wait for you to get these 4 CD’s and the Book “Do What Jesus Did” for an investment of 39 dollars. And I’m going to tell you something else! Ears are being opened right now. Spirit of deafness you come out in Jesus’ name!  

ROBBY:  Right!

 SID: Do you hear another word? We only have about 20 seconds, Robby.

ROBBY: Five bone spurs in someone’s neck disappeared as soon as you said that about neck and then also somebody with a serious problem with their pancreas and the, and the  sugar levels fluctuating terribly, it’s aligning right now in Jesus’ name. And the sciatica nerve right there.

SID:   You are healed in Jesus name!

ROBBY:  Yeah! Amen!

SID:  Robby, do not say that when I take a gulp of water. There could be a disaster on this set! But I’m going— go ahead.

ROBBY:  (laughing) And so I had no, I had no idea, you know I had no idea what had just happened. It just kind of was there and came. And so then she— I said so you know I said I mean I’ve heard of people getting healed and I know of people you know and I said sort of theologically I believe it but I just never see it. I don’t know anything about this. And she stopped and she goes you said God is going to give my dad a brand new heart? And I just kind of chuckled and I said “yes but you need to understand something.” And she goes “thank you!” and she hung up the phone. And man when I heard that “click” (snaps finger) of that phone it was like my heart dropped to my toes. And I thought I bet this is some TV expose show—

SID:  (LAUGHING)

ROBBY:  —exposing pastors who make you know declarations of healing but actually kill people with their prayers and I just fell right into the trap. And I mean my heart started racing and I was like man, and I literally was like I’ve got to get my resume together because I’m going to get fired. We’re going to get sued. I’m going to lose my position. I mean everything. My mind started racing in panic. Now I know that to be the, the enemy. That, that feeling and that caution and all that. And you know, Sid, there’s some people that won’t pray because they feel that and they think it’s their feelings or they’ll even think that’s God stopping them from doing something foolish. And yet—

SID:  Well we really do have an enemy. But bottom line because we’re running out of time.  

ROBBY:  Sure.

SID:  Tell me what happened with her dad.       

ROBBY:  She comes back the next week, she calls me. Well she calls me later that day and she called and through her tears, I mean I could barely understand her, as a matter of fact the first time I hung up on her and she called back because I couldn’t understand her. And then, and then she said my dad has a brand new heart. She goes they opened him up. He did not have any— He had a valve from a pig to replace a damaged valve and it was completely gone. It had disappeared. Everything was human. There was not even scar tissue from previous surgeries.

SID:  Now wait. I’ve heard of metal being replaced with bone but this really trumps that! A pig— a pig’s—  

ROBBY:  This was a valve. Yeah.

SID:  A pig’s valve being replaced with a real valve? (laughing)  

ROBBY:  With a human—  

SID:  A human valve!

ROBBY:  And the doctor looked and said your dad still told the wife your husband has the heart of a thirty-year-old man. And she said you didn’t know this but he had had a half a lung removed. She goes I didn’t even bring up his lungs because the lungs weren’t the issue. But she said when they, you know cause they have to separate the ribs you know and do all that but she said when they did they checked and they saw a whole rib and they sent him, as a matter of fact they sent him for an x-ray to verify that he had a whole lung in place of the half lung.

SID:  Robby, this is a creative miracle!

ROBBY:  Yeah, yeah, it was.

 SID: You have just become normal! Normal as defined by the Bible!

ROBBY: That’s right!

SID: In Jesus, and somehow if he hadn’t said it, He might not have seen what he saw.

LADONNA: Right.

SID: I don’t know, you tell me.

LADONNA: Let me tell you a wonderful illustration of that. He was in Lubumbashi, it was Zaire at the time, now it’s the Democratic Republic of the Congo. And a man was there, a large man. He came angry. He was a Muslim, he did not want this foreigner deceiving the people. So he came and brought a woman from a village who was blind. And his purpose was if that woman is not healed, he had a whip under his robe. He said, “I’m going to take this whip and I’m going to beat that man in front of all this crowd, and we’re going to run him out of town. [laughs] Well, of course, you know what happened. And the blind woman was healed. And this man, his name was Alexander. He was so shocked, he fell on the ground and repented. And he says, “Oh I’m sorry God, I know I was wrong. Forgive me. Please don’t strike me dead!” He accepted Christ, came and testified. Do you know that man became the planter of Churches all over Zaire, more than 6,000 Churches? [laughs] All over that nation. From that one fact that you can put God to the test because it’s His Word that He is always ready to perform.

SID: So, tell me LaDonna, do you do the same thing? Do you make is such a, do you have that Holy Boldness?

LADONNA: Absolutely!

SID: Chutzpah? [laughs]

LADONNA: Absolutely! And to me, it seems for any believer who would not just stand on the Word of God. If Jesus said it, He’s going to back it up. The only hindrance is our own doubt, our own lack of belief where our own intelligence, could I say? We’ve become so smart that we can’t just accept the Word of God for what it is. The Word of God is powerful, and God is behind it. You know that. I know that. But yes, I go to places in recent years I haven’t had to, but for most of the time, I just travel alone. I go to places that people should not go. It wouldn’t be safe at all for a woman to go, but do you know when God send me, he can keep me. He performs His word, and while there have been many threats, there has never been an incident; been delivered out of all of them.

SID: Now I asked you at the start of the show, tell me a notable Miracle that you saw with your parents. Tell me a notable Miracle that you saw from your ministry.

LADONNA: Oh, there are so, so many. One that I love to share is a story of a little boy. He was 6 years old and he came to our Crusade in Mizoram, this is a restricted area of India. And he was born with no knee in his right leg. It happened that in that particular Crusade, they were televising everything from beginning to end. It was going nationwide. And this little boy, he heard about the Miracles, and he told his father, if you will take me to that place, I’ll be healed.

SID: Now, that is faith, that is faith. That is ‘Child-Like’ faith as a matter of fact. [laughs]

LADONNA: Absolutely, that’s the ultimate. Well, the father didn’t want to come, because it was very, very crowded. Huge multitudes, all the streets were jammed with cars. It was almost impossible to get to the grounds. But the boy wouldn’t give up. “Get me there and I’ll be healed.” Well, finally the father said to him, “Are you sure?” And the little boy said, “Yes.” So he put him on his shoulders and walked all the way to the grounds. Now, I was told this later when they came to testify. As soon as the father’s foot touched the grounds, the little boy said, “Okay, put me down.” And the father put him down, he was completely healed. A kneecap had been creatively restored to that child and of course, they came to testified. And the people were amazed. But only God can do these things.