Sid Roth

SID:  I just want to add one word I heard back there. He’s healing hearts, hearts, hearts.

KYNAN:  Amen, amen, amen. Somebody has been dealing with depression, you’ve been dealing with depression, thoughts of worthlessness. I want you to lay hands on your head– lay hands on your head those who fall into that category– And I want you to, we’re going to by faith– I want you to close your eyes and imagine that the hands of Jesus Christ are on you right now, and that He’s laying hands on you. And I want to tell you something. Jesus never prayed for anybody that didn’t get healed. There was no sickness big enough for Jesus. So I don’t want you to be thinking as me praying for you but I want you to think as the Master Himself, Jesus, Yeshua, praying for you now. And some of you are even being touched right now. The Holy Spirit is touching you right now. Father, I thank you in the name of Jesus Christ, that Lord, you 2,000 years ago paid a price, not only to do away our sin, but to do away with sickness. And God we are coming to You based on Your promise, because You are a covenant God. And we thank you now Lord that people are being healed, even now in the name of Jesus. People are being healed and delivered. People are being set free. Right now! –Thank you, Lord. I want you to say this after me. I want you to say

[KYNAN PRAYS AS AUDIENCE REPEATS AFTER HIM PHRASE BY PHRASE]

Lord Jesus; I recognize; that my body; is the temple of the Holy Ghost; and I’m not my own; I have been bought with a price; Lord; I decide; to glorify You; in my body; and in my spirit; which are the Lord’s; Father; forgive me; for doubting; forgive me for not trusting; I thank You Lord; that today; I have Your faith; And this faith; is perfect faith; it casts out all fear; it casts out all doubt; and Lord; today; I receive my healing; I receive my deliverance; and I have the victory; from this day forward; right now; in Jesus’ name; Amen.

SID:  Thank you so much. John, would you come here for a minute. Wondering if you could just give us a little bit of dessert, about 5 minutes’ worth of dessert with no calories!

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER AND CLAPPING)

JOHN:  But He [God] said “if you’re willing and obedient you’ll eat the fat of the land.”–so it’s the good kind of fat, all right?

SID:  Okay, yeah, there’s good fat and bad fat, I understand that.

JOHN:  (laughing). Twelve years ago Cindy Jacobs prophesied to me and she said that God had given me an anointing for wealth and a war chest. And a war chest is where you store your wealth to wage war. And my good friend Chuck Pierce last year he prophesied to me, he said “the Lord has called you to unlock the wealth of the world.” Now I’m not the only one, but He has called me to unlock the wealth of the world. Let me ask, Judith, would you come over here for just a minute. I’m want to pray for wealth for you, is that okay?

AUDIENCE:  Yes!

JOHN:  But I’m not going to pray just for wealth I’m going to pray that you become very, very, very rich. You know the word of God says that Jesus was made poor so that we might be made rich. And as a doctor of theology I looked up that word “rich” and do you know what I found out it means? Rich!

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

SID:  I did. Someone’s knee, you’re getting a new knee or the pain is leaving your knee right now. And I was telling Katie once the healing of God is manifest in a room you don’t even need a word of knowledge. All you need is knowledge Himself. Yeshua, Jesus. He is made unto you wisdom. He is your knowledge. I’ve heard this again. Arthritis in the fingers, it’s gone, in Jesus name.

KATIE:  Jesus. The healing power is here. So if you haven’t heard a word of knowledge for your particular affliction right now, I want you right now, we’re going to have Toni play one more song, if that’s okay with Sid, and I want you to just come before the Lord and say, ‘Lord, go inside me, inspect my soul, go in the midst of my heart, which is your soul and find the wounds that are connected to this affliction that I can’t get the breakthrough for.’ And that should be your focus. Just say, ‘Lord, go right at those wounds right now that are connected with this thing that I can’t seem to shake and fill them with your blood and your “dunamis” power.’ I just want everybody now, this is how you’re going to go home and get healing in for yourself, for your family members and everything else, you’re going to go right at that, right at those wounds that are causing that problem, with the blood and the “dunamis.” Amen? So while Toni sings again, let’s really do that, let’s really go after that. And you know and before we do that, I want to do one last thing here, as far as my part. I want to give you the anointing of “dunamis.” Because it says that Jesus gave His disciples power and authority to drive our demons and heal the sick. Right? Okay, that power is “dunamis.” So He gave them “dunamis” which enabled them to what? Drive out demons and heal the sick. So that meant that the disciples had the ability to heal people in their souls. And they were keeping themselves healed in their souls because they had “dunamis.” Amen? And as far as the driving out demons part, well when that wound goes, that’s the legal right for the spirit. The woman bowed over with the spirit of infirmity for 18 years, you know what gave that spirit   the legal right to literally bend her spine? It says that she had a spirit of infirmity, right? That word infirmity in the Greek means weakness and infirmity of the body and of the soul. So when you get rid of that wound that spirit has to go. That spirit has to go. And you’re not going to scream at it for 16 hours and have it not go anymore, you’re going to actually see it go. And you won’t even have to name it or anything else like that, it will just leave, amen? All right. So in the name of Jesus, when Jesus gave His disciples the anointing to drive out demons and heal the sick, He said to them, ‘Freely you have received, now freely give.’ Well I have freely received that anointing and I freely give it to you now. Jesus made everything impartable so that His people could be fully equipped. And I don’t need to touch all of you because the anointing is filling this room right now. So I am decreeing that it’s landing on every one of you in the name of Jesus, that you are receiving power and authority to drive out demons and to heal the sick. In Jesus name I release to you the anointing I am carrying of “dunamis.” In Jesus name become carriers of this resurrection power on a whole new level than you ever have before. I impart it to you, I impart it to you. And I command that you would take hold of it. Grab hold of it with your faith right now. Grab hold of it with your faith right now. I am releasing it to you. In Jesus name you need it and Jesus wants you to have it ’cause it’s what causes you to be prospered and brought into health even as your soul is prospered. Receive it now, receive it now, I release it you to. Receive it now, receive it now in the mighty name of Jesus. Everybody say:   I receive it. I receive it. I receive it. I receive it. I receive it. I receive it. Give God a cheer, c’mon. Give him a praise. Give him a praise!

AUDIENCE:  [CLAPS AND PRAISES]

GUIILLERMO:  Hey, you’re too polite — you must be crazy for a moment. Do I have crazy people here today?

AUDIENCE:  Yeah!!! (CLAPPING)

GUILLERMO:  You’re too polite. I’m too polite. Yeah, I don’t care how God will do it. I don’t care. If I want to jump, I want to roll on the floor, I will do it. But you must say God — I’m willing to — (laughs) this is what I teach the people — Have you noticed in America why most of the preachers don’t demonstrate what they preach? Not here, I mean over here guys —

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

GUILLERMO:  Okay, you know why? 3 reasons. Number 1: because there’s nothing to prove. It is easy to preach a message that you don’t have to prove. Number 2, the reason they can’t demonstrate it is because they don’t have revelation. You can have the best message, get all the dictionaries, and all the good things but if you don’t have the breath of the Spirit nothing will happen. No demonstration. And number 3, I like this one, they don’t want to lose, they don’t want to risk their reputation. Over here guys, can you help me?” You lost your reputation so you can go “amen.” They don’t want to risk their reputation. Okay, I’ll prove it you. (to congregation) Sit down. I’ll prove it to you? Can you move this? You want me to lose my reputation? (audience laughs) Is anybody sick in their body here? Okay, I want you to stand, I want you to stand, I want you to stand if you’re sick in your body. And what I will do is pray here. I can do it, but I’ve got my people here, they can do the same thing, okay, but I will demonstrate it to you for you to see it. But if you do the most of the preachers will not do it because they say “Well, I’m too big. You know, I can lose my — what if it doesn’t happen,” and many things are involved. But I am dead. So I don’t worry about it. I am dead. So if you dead you don’t worry. You worry about Jesus. You say “Jesus, you do it.” So what’s wrong with you, what’s wrong with you? Yeah, what happened? … No, just one word, and that’s it because — back problem. Okay, does anybody have problem here where you feel the pain right now? Okay, you got the pain? Okay, I want my team going over there please. What’s wrong with your back? Ear. What’s wrong with your ear? So you can’t hear anything? Okay, okay, anybody else in the ears? You have an ear —what’s wrong with you? Completely gone? Ringing? Ringing? Come over here, can you come up here? Can you come up here? Any ears, ears, come over here, come over here, come over here, come up, ears, come over here, hurry up here. Can you pray in the Holy Ghost because you need to respond? No, no, no, not like that (saying it gently, Guillermo then prays in tongues) In America they told you not to pray anymore. C’mon you are Pentecostals — I want you to stay here. Okay, come over here, get closer, ears right? Any of you have lost one of the ears completely, any of you, any of you, you? Which one? The right is gone? How long ago? 6 years ago — come over here my team — come over here please. Frank, you pray for him. Anybody else in the ear, that you lost your ear? I like the difficult cases first, the most difficult case — Okay, the rest of the people will be healed. But let me tell you this, can we bring — what about you? You lost it? How long ago? So it’s gone. I just want the people to hear because they say “Well, it was an emotional thing.” No, I want the people to be sure why we say it. But I need your support —

AUDIENCE:  Amen, hallelujah, YAY!

SID:  Now, now who says that?

TOM:  Well he could give you some of the names.

SID:  Okay— just comment on the statement he made.

CRIS:  I mean there have been various Catholic scholars who have seen the final pope in this role. One was a Jesuit way back then, Lacunza, Cardinal Manning is another one. O’Connor gave that homily in the 1980’s in New York where he predicted that the Roman church would go apostate and become the seat of the anti-Christ. Now one of the reasons why I think this final pope is the false prophet, is if you look in the Book of Revelation in chapter 13 it talks about 2 beasts. The first beast is the anti-Christ, the second beast is the false prophet. When it describes the false prophet the language is “he has horns like a lamb yet speaks like a dragon.” Now I think we all would recognize “like a lamb” would be trying to identify someone as, that has a Christian identity, at least an appearance like a lamb. The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. Horns in apocalyptic literature is a generally a symbol of power. So here we have a powerful Christian leader who speaks like a dragon. And I think we all know who the dragon is in the Book of Revelation. So to me that’s really identifying this false prophet as a pope, I think. I mean if you ask anyone in the world, you know from all cultures, who’s the most powerful Christian leader, you know worldwide I think your majority answer’s going to be the pope, you know even if they’re not Catholic. So I think that the Book of Revelation has, has pretty much given us a really strong hint that’s what we should expect.

SID:  Okay, we’re not going to speculate on the next pope  because we’re doing this before he’s announced. Next question.

QUESTIONER #6:  Well, before I got saved miraculously I was praying that God would please give me a sign and if I could be forgiven because I thought I had went over the 490  times, you know, and I was deceived to think “no way I could be forgiven.” And I saw a light like you’re talking about. It come in my room and it changed me, something happened. And anyways I’ve really been drastically just seeking God, seeking His word, reading, and whatnot. And over these past years I’ve seen some, met some Christians who practice, I mean Catholics who are practicing that, you know, religion, that they pray to Mary and go, you know, before a priest and confess their sins. And I would say to them according to the word, it says that we only have one high priest in the Book of Hebrews, and says there is only one mediator between God and man, and he is Christ Jesus. And, so if someone does, if they take their last breath and they never change from that and they continue to go through the rituals of praying to Mary or going into a church and confessing their sins before a priest, would that person enter into the kingdom of heaven?

SID:  Well that’s an easy question to answer. I’ll take that. Jesus said there’s no other name in which a man must be saved but the name of Jesus. And so therefore they could be in some heretical doctrine, but if they believe Jesus died, rose from the dead, and by His stripes they are healed and forgiven, then they go to heaven. Next question.

SID: Now, as most of you know, I know there’s going to be a settling of God’s glory that’s going to change the whole paradigm of planet Earth. But Perry just recently was teaching at a church and his family angel whispers, I understand in your, right-

PERRY: Right ear. Always the right—

SID: In your right ear, began teaching you about the glory and I have never heard some of the things that came out of your mouth. Tell me some of the revelation you have.

PERRY: Okay. Let me go through, explain the service. We were, I had the message already planned. We have a Holy Spirit gathering every Sunday night, all of our meetings, and we pray for people that want to receive the baptism and the spirit.

When I walked into the, it’s the Princeton Pike Church of God in Hamilton, anyone watching that was there will know what I’m talking about. And I walked over to my associate Robbie James, and every hair on my body stood straight up for no reason. I looked at Robbie, I said, “Robbie, it’s going to be different tonight because he’s here.” Robbie man, “Man, when you just said that,” he said, “Something walked right by me on the aisle, and all my hair stood up.”

Now, he never felt, he’d been with me, but he said, “I feel the atmosphere, but I’ve never felt what you talk about”-

SID: Right.

PERRY: Where when the angel walks, the hair on that side of your body stands up. Then if he walks on this side, and you, okay?

So, I had no notes. I had zero notes, and I said, God, you have something for me, so what it is? So, I started, I came off the platform. I said, I’m not preaching at the platform. I’m going to start talking. With no notes, not even a Bible open, I started getting downloads and the only way to describe this is if you were to take a laptop and plug the plug in here and hit a button and transfer what’s written into audible, I can’t describe it any other way.

But it’s always my right ear. In other words, I hear right through here. This stays totally blank, and I think it goes to the principle of Jesus is on the right hand of God, the angel appeared at the altar in Zacharias, the right side of the altar. There’s something about that. I don’t want to go into all the explanation there.

So I begin to talk about, and I want to share this very quickly. When Moses asked God to show him his glory, he’d already seen 10 plagues. He saw the Red Sea open. How much more glory do you want? Think about it. No, think about it. This guy has just tore the whole Egyptian empire up with God using miracles.

So, in Exodus, God says I can’t show you my face, but I will turn my back and you’ll see my hinder parts. Now, I believe the King James says hinder parts.

SID: Mm-hmm.

PERRY: That always confused me. So, okay, he saw the shoulder blades of God and that was the glory of God, and that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, because the face is where the glory is.

SID: Right.

PERRY: I looked up the Hebrew word, and it actually can mean, and I checked this out with some scholars, they said yeah, the way that word is, it can mean, and I’m going to transliterate this so we can understand it. I will show you something in the distance, or I will show you something about the future.

Now, get ready for this, because—

SID: That changes the whole perspective.

PERRY: It changes the whole perspective. So, in other words, God says I’m going to cover you, I’m going to veil you, I’m going to lift the veil off you and you’re going to see something about the future.

I believe that the Lord showed me, and folks, this is the abbreviated version. He’ll have the information on the whole thing, because this is abbreviated. Moses later comes off of that mountain with his face glowing. He’d been on that mountain forty days before, his face was not glowing. This experience caused him to glow. They viewed his face. Remember that?

SID: Right.

PERRY: Okay. Why was his face, what did he see, the glory? Yes. But what did he see? He went into the future. He went to the mount of transfiguration.

SID: Well, we know, it says he was there, but you are saying….

PERRY: He was there. He went in the future, he stepped into the future to that place where the glory of the Messiah was so on the messiah that it came on him.

SID: What God is saying is Moses stepped into the future. I’m wondering if many of your going to have experiences like that.

PERRY: Well, basically a vision that comes from the Lord is a vision takes you out into the dimension, and it’s really the glory dimension, because when Isaiah saw the Lord high and lifted at that point he talk about, he said the glory filled the temple.

SID: You’ve heard a lot here. Some of you it’s hard to even digest, but that you’ve not only heard, but you have felt a tug of the spirit of God. If you will, I touch a splash of the glory of God. It’s just came on you.

If you say I do not really know this Messiah of Israel, I really want to know him, you could have been in synagogue, in church, in a mosque, all your life but I don’t know him. Repeat this prayer and believe it to the best of your ability.

Home, studio audience, repeat after me. Dear God.

Audience: Dear God.

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: Against you and you alone have I sinned.

Audience: Against you and you alone have I sinned.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe.

Audience: I believe.

SID: The blood of Jesus.

Audience: The blood of Jesus.

SID: Washes away my sins.

Audience: Washes away my sins.

SID: And I am clean.

Audience: And I am clean.

SID: And now that I am clean.

Audience: And now that I am clean.

SID: I ask Jesus to come and live inside of me.

Audience: I ask Jesus to come and live inside of me.

SID: Become my lord.

Audience: Become my lord.

SID: Give me experiential knowledge of you.

Audience: Give me experiential knowledge of you.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: See you at sidroth.org.

TONY KEMP:  I was in the state of Louisiana there was a woman who came forward for prayer. She had 60% bone loss. She was in a lot of pain. I came, when she came up to, and I prayed for her nothing happened. I said “Lord, what’s the problem?” The Lord spoke to me and He said “When she was much younger she had an abortion. She repented, asked me to forgive her but she never forgave herself. So I brought it up to her. Instantly she began to cry. As soon as she forgave herself because Jesus said in Luke 6 “Forgive and you shall be forgiven” instantly her pain disappeared and she was healed by Jesus. I was sharing earlier that there was a woman, I did a, a Minister’s meeting in Joshua Texas. A woman came up. She had one shoulder blade like this, another shoulder blade like that. And, uh, she was in tremendous pain. And the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said “She’s mad at her body. She has bitterness and unforgiveness at her body because she can’t do what she used to be able do. Tell her to forgive her body.” In Luke 6 Jesus says “Forgive and you shall be forgiven.” He doesn’t say who and He doesn’t say what. The minute I ask her to forgive her body she yell, she puts out a yell, and she goes UHHH! And her, and her shoulder blades go “Phoooh” and become even and her pain disappears!

AUDIENCE:  Whooo! (APPLAUSE)

TONY:  I remember a case. I’ll never forget this case. Uh, this was a, uh, uh, a Hispanic, uh, brother. He spent a lot of time in, in prison. Uh, he had, he had come to church. Uh, uh, you know, he was kind of a street guy. It was a middle class church. They didn’t understand him, uh, he didn’t understand them. And he got hurt in church, because, you, you know, and he developed bitterness and unforgiveness toward the people. And he, then he had cancer. I so I said to him you need to forgive the people. And he obeys the word. He said this. He said when he obeyed the people he said it was as if lightning struck him! The pain disappears. He goes back to the doctor and they could find no trace of the disease!

AUDIENCE:  (APPLAUSE)

TONY:  The first thing I want to say to you is this. I want you to go before God and I want you to forgive everybody. That means ex-husbands and ex-wives. That means son-in-laws and daughter-in-laws. That means father-in-laws and mother-in-laws. That means employers, supervisors, and employees. And if you are mad at your body, I want you to forgive your body. Because the word says, Exodus 15:26: “I’m the Lord who heals you.” The word says in Exodus 23:25: “The Lord will take your disease away.” The word says in Isaiah 53, that Jesus: “was wounded for your transgressions, bruised for your iniquities, the punishment that brings you peace was placed upon him and with his sufferings at the whipping post we are healed.” The word says “by his wounds you were healed.” And see this is what I say to people: I say, Listen, if you get healed I don’t take the credit. If you don’t get healed, I don’t take the blame!

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

TONY:  Look at somebody and say: “Because the Hebrew songbook says…

AUDIENCE:  The Hebrew songbook says…

TONY:  that God sends His word and heals you.”

AUDIENCE:  …that God sends His word and heals you!

TONY:  So you really don’t need my hand to be laid upon you. Look at somebody and say, “the presence of the Lord is here!”

AUDIENCE:  The presence of the Lord is here!

TONY:  Look at somebody and say, “the power of the Lord is here!”

AUDIENCE:  The power of the Lord is here!

SID: You know Cindy, you were recently in Portugal and there were a group of gypsies, you were speaking to them, and one was brought forward who was in the last stages of cancer. What happened?

CINDY: Well it’s very interesting. There was actually a gypsy man who was in the hospital, and yes, just last stages. They were going to see what they could do to help him. And we arrived and they said, “Well this is so sad. What are we going to do?” And so we set a cloth that we prayed over it. It’s amazing. You lay hands on a cloth and the power of God goes into it. So they took him to hospital. The next morning they operated on him, and so when they opened him up, they just closed him back up and because there was no cancer in his body.

SID: You know Cindy, you’re known as an intercessor. But what exactly is an intercessor?

CINDY: Well you know, an intercessor is one that prays more for others, although you can intercede for yourself. But an intercessor is going to hear from God, sit in the presence of God and let him give some instructions to them on how to pray. It’s very important. Don’t just, you can pray petition praying, which is a list you pray. I have lists I pray over every day. There’s five things I pray every day for myself. But I want to say to you it’s very important to pray like militant prayers. I mean, many times we’re very quiet when we pray. That’s great. I pray those kind of prayers. But I remember a story about Gordon Lindsay. Can I tell the story?

SID: Please.

CINDY: It’s such a great story. Let me just talk to you guys here on the camera.

SID: Excuse me. You use a word and I haven’t been able to shake this word, when you talk about this prayer of Gordon Lindsay. It’s called “violent”. You ever heard of violent? You’re about ready to hear about it.

CINDY: Yes. There comes a time in your life where you say enough is enough. There’s a great Spanish word for it: “basta.” I mean, it means no more, that’s it, it’s over. And when sometimes a situation will be in our life and all of a sudden it occurs to us, wait a minute, I have power and authority right here, and I can stop this. And it’s like a holy indignation. There’s something that just comes up from inside of you, and we call it violent, militant intercession, where we just say, “Satan, you will stop! Basta! You are not doing this anymore. It’s over! Your reign is over and your authority.” This is such a good story, such a good story. Well I write in my book, “Possessing the Gates of the Enemy” a training manual for militant intercession. That’s a gutsy subtitle, isn’t it. But anyway, and that Gordon and Freda were in a place, and a woman heard Gordon’s voice, and she said to Freda, Mrs. Lindsay, she said, “Were you in Shreveport on such and such a day, and was he praying those kind of prayers on such and such a day?” Because Gordon said everyone should pray at least one violent prayer every day, at least one, just rev it up there. And so sure enough, Freda taught, “Yes we were.” And she said, “You know, my husband always prayed like an atomic bomb going off. He’d get up at 5 a.m. and just pray these violent prayers that shook hell and populated Heaven through the intercession.” And so anyway, but he did that and he was known for that. And I think that it’s important to pray prayers with authority and declaration, and I’ve heard you pray those prayers, Sid. You believe in that.

SID: Every time I’ve read that story about Gordon Lindsay, don’t you forget that, he believed you should pray one violent prayer per day. If there’s something that you’re so angry with the devil, have you got a child that doesn’t know the Lord? Have you got a child that’s in drugs? I can think of a lot of reasons why you want to pray a violent prayer. But there’s another aspect that this woman does that I want to understand. I understand Satan hates it when you laugh.

CINDY: [laughing] Yes. That’s great. That’s great, Sid. I was casting out demons one time.

SID: No wonder.

CINDY: Yes, it’s a great job. Anyway, I was casting out demons and this demon, all of a sudden I started to laugh and this demon manifested like this. I hate that voice. I hate that voice. I’ve heard that laugh all over the world. Of course, it would just make me laugh more.

SID: Of course.

CINDY: I was just laughing and laughing, and laughing. But Psalm 2 talks about, “The Lord laughs in derision.”

SID: So in effect, you are laughing at the results of what you’ve just accomplished.

CINDY: Yes. If God is going to laugh in the earth realm, he’s going to laugh at us, right, just like he prayed for us through the power of the Holy Spirit. So that’s a great intercession.

SID: You talk about all over the world that when people understand intercessory prayer they can avert a national crisis. Tell me about one.

CINDY: Absolutely. There are so many. Oh I’ll tell you a good one. You know, I always say, people, you need to pray for my husband Mike because, Sid, being married to intercessor is just a different life. I always tell him, Mike, you have more starch in your crown for just being married to me. So I wake this guy out of dead sleep and I say, “Mike, Mike, wake up! There’s going to be a terrorist attack on a plane and it just left! We got to pray right now for it to stop.” Well he kind of like opened one eye ball and kind of rolled over, handed me his hand and we prayed. And it was averted that night. It was the shoe bomber.

SID: I have heard so many stories. You don’t have any idea how much power and authority that God is entrusted to you. But you know, when I hear intercessor I think of someone interceding for someone else. But guess what? If you know how to intercede for someone else you know how to intercede for yourself, for your loved ones, for your job, for your peace, for anything. Is it a boring life being an intercessor?

CINDY: [laughing] Gotcha.

SID: That’s enough. We got the devil. We’ll be right back after this.

Sid: Everyone knows that God doesn’t wink at sin. But most people feel that there’s a certain length of time that they can get with it. And maybe your day of reckoning will come 10 years from today, 20 years from today. But I have a guest that has documented that the exact date the United States as a nation does what God constitutes, and just look at the 10 commandments for starters, what God constitutes as sin the exact day a warning judgment comes and it’s so many times that if more Christians understood that God is a holy God who is looking at everything that we do with a since of love to stop us from getting into areas that will require judgment we wouldn’t dare do the things do. I’m talking about believer’s image what happens to non-believers. I have on the telephone John McTernan, now John wrote a book called “God’s final warning to America.” On October 11, 1987 John McTernan that spent 26 years as a Federal Agent he was with the Internal Security Division of IRS. Something very unusual happened to you on that day John tell me about it.

John: Well Sid I was watching TV and it was the news and it had a story on about a rather large, in fact up until the time the largest homosexual gathering I think possibly in history, took place in Washington DC. And the homosexuals were gathering for their rights and to promote their agenda and I watched it I didn’t know that it was taking place I just picked it up when it was on the news and I turned the news the TV off because it troubled my spirit to watch it so I walked away. At that point Sid I didn’t think of praying, interceding, I didn’t think God would be offended by that. Of course I wasn’t personally happy by it but I forgot about it. And then that week that very week the stock market melted down to, at that time to record levels with the following Monday the big crash in 1987 do you remember that Sid?

Sid: Yes I do I used to be a stock broker with Merrill Lynch so I do keep an eye on the market.

John: Okay well then this is oh about 8 days later and I’m watching the news again and there’s a newscaster on it and he was obviously shaken by this stock market crash his lip was actually quivering. As I was watching him I had this like this flash back it was like a vision Sid and I could see the week before and I could see the TV. I was looking at the TV but I was actually seeing the week before. I saw the homosexual gathering and the news commentator and all of a sudden I heard in my inner man the voice of the Lord saying that this stock market crash was in response to this homosexual march and that I didn’t fear the Lord otherwise I would have interceded. Otherwise the country is naked and open before me in judgment because the fear of Me has been lost. It was as if it was like overwhelming I actually fell prostrate on the ground before the TV and I repented. And if you had asked me on the day before if I feared God I would have said “Oh yes I do I fear God” but I really didn’t Sid and at this point God opened my eyes that we had fallen under His judgment as a nation. And from that day to this I have been documented one instance after another where as you mentioned in the introduction there will be a Supreme Court decision regarding abortion let’s say, and at that very day a hurricane will smash into the country.

Sid: You know that was the thing that was so overwhelming to me in your book John. It’s not like in the same year, it’s not like in the same 6 months, it’s not like in the same month it’s the same day!

John: Yes Sid.

Sid: I don’t think people realize this correlation.

John: And it’s bit 1 Sid it’s like every major…every hurricane since 1989 has fallen on one of those days everyone. All the major earthquakes 6.0 or greater have fallen on those days. Massive tornadoes that sweep up whole small towns are falling on those days. The stock market has gone at one point to all time heights since 1987. And in my book I fully document where each major will say dip in the stock market were to fall 100 points in l day and things like that they’re all around or should say the very day abortion event a national homosexual event or touching the apple of God’s eye which is Israel.

Sid: I want to take you back to October 11^th 1987 was this just like an inner sense what you’re describing to me? Did the presence of God come on you? Did He speak to you audibly? Explain I know that you told me what you saw but what did you feel? What did you experience?

John: Sid it was not an external voice it was an internal voice but it was so powerful that I was like overwhelmed by it it was….the voice specifically spoke at me about not fearing “You don’t fear Me” that’s exactly what I heard. “If you feared Me you would have interceded when you saw that march.” And I was sort of like shamed I remember that I was ashamed before the Lord but it was Sid it was like me and God alone it was like time stopped where I was at the time and I was just being…I don’t want to use the word lectured I was being spoken to by the Lord.

Sid: But you know John the Bible says that there’s a judgment day for everyone of us wouldn’t you rather have had your warning on that date so that you could change than when you die and go to judgment day?

John: Absolutely Sid. I mean you I could sense what it was to be in the presence of the Lord and not quite right with Him. And that was what it was Sid and I repented. I mean He didn’t tell me to repent I just realized that I was wrong in my understanding of the Lord and right then and there I fell on the ground and I cried out to Him and said “Lord” it was like pride was exposed to me also. Because it was if you had asked me like the day before if I said the day before if you had come to me and say to me “Do you fear the Lord?” I would have said “Oh yes I fear the Lord definitely.” But when God showed me what the true fear of the Lord was I immediately repented.

Sid: Help me “What is the true fear of the Lord?”

John: Sid it’s real simple the true fear of the Lord is to as we see in the book of Job “To shoo evil to hate evil, to flee evil, to flee sin.” And you mentioned it in the introduction that thinking that you can sin and get away with it and all of that.

Sid: It impossible to watch secular television without witnessing illicit sex, drugs, homosexuality, nudity, pornography, I mean you can’t even watch that. Even if you choose what you’re watching they’ll slip a commercial in.

John: Your right Sid and I watch very very very very little TV I like to watch college football and you watch football and the advertisement will be for some show on and advertisement is exactly as you say. We’ve become …sin is promoted on it now and it’s encouraged and it’s promoted and there’s no fear of God anymore it’s gone.

Sid: What is God trying to tell us by you correlating all of these events of sin and then a judgment coming the same say what is God telling us?

John: God’s telling us a couple of things that’s a very good question. Number 1 the object of the book and what I believe that God’s showing me and showing the nation He’s holy and that God’s holy and that He’s not winking at sin. And #2 we’re to truly fear him over sin when we see homosexuals like gay pride day the church should fear the Lord over that and intercede before Him for our nation and that His word is real Sid. God’s word is authority it’s real. When He says in His word that He’s going to judge and destroy nations over the very sin that America’s doing. And as you said already precisely on these days and we see the hurricanes hitting and these stock market crashes and all of these combined it’s a warning that we’re on a collision course with God. And what He says in His word He’s going to do.

Sid: John give me one specific sin and what the judgment was pick one out of the large numbers of events that you have in your book.

John: Okay the centerpiece of the book is June 28, 1992 that was Gay Pride Day. And on June 28 and Gay Pride Day let me just explain to your listeners is the last Sunday in June and it’s been going on since about 1970. It started the late ‘60s early 70’s and its most of the major cities in the nation celebrate it New York celebrates Gay Pride Day, Boston, Chicago, Los Angles, San Francisco and Atlanta and there are other cities too. And the homosexual march and their supporters come out and very rude things happen. I have seen oh boy horrible things Sid oh boy I’ve seen a Gay Pride Day in San Francisco where it was the real thing and it wasn’t edited for the news of TV and it was so vulgar I wouldn’t dare repeat on the telephone what I saw with my eyes taking place. So any way on this day June 28, 1992 it was Gay Pride Day 2 massive earthquakes in southern California. One was 7.6 on the rector scale and the other was 6.5 on the rector scale. And the big one was called Landers Quake and in fact when you read the newspapers count the accounts of the earthquake in the Los Angeles Times the front page is “Gay Pride Day and the Earthquake and that’s all that’s on the first page.

Sid: We’re out of time.

SID: Just before John was arrested, he asked God for two things. What were those two things?

JOHN: I asked him, I knew I was going to jail and I let my children down once again. I said, “God, I want my children to forgive me and to love me one more time. And Father, I want to teach again” because I was a licensed teacher and I knew it would be taken away. I loved teaching so much. I wanted to teach again. And that’s the only [thing] that I asked. I didn’t ask him not to go to jail. I didn’t ask him anything else.

SID: The judge could have put you away for life. Sentencing day, tell me about it.

JOHN: Sentencing day comes around and in Minnesota we have the career criminal division, and when they prosecute you these guys are, they have no sympathy, no empathy for anything. It’s like you have crossed over the line. You have went over the sentencing guidelines. They’re, you know, we’re going to put you away for as long as humanly possible. Well the prosecutor that was prosecuting me, all of a sudden wasn’t there that day, and this guy really disliked me. He had prosecuted my son, my cousins and everybody. The judge had seen me time and time again, and was just tired of me. But that day, I had like nine months before I came for sentencing, and the judge told me, he’s seeing something different in me. And my lawyer was arguing for the ten-year, you know, let’s get him ten years. And I told my lawyer, “Just chill out, man.” And the judge said, “I’m going to give you probation. I don’t know why.”

SID: No time in jail?

JOHN: No time in jail.

SID: That’s a miracle. So those two prayers you prayed, I think God instantly answered them.

JOHN: He instantly answered them. And the place that I got shamed and got arrested at, that the cameras came to, they not only rehired me, but they promoted me.

SID: When you were talking about that day when the cameras were there, I saw crocodile tears coming out of your eyes. Why?

JOHN: There’s no way to explain when God does what he does and how blessed I was to receive it. I owe him everything and he did it for me, for me right there and then regardless of my past or anything. He did it for me.

SID: Would he do this for anyone if their past was even worse than yours?

JOHN: He would do it for any one of his children in an instant.

SID: Would you pray for the ones that are looking right now, and you know who you are, because God has been dealing with you and he loves as much as he loves John Turnipseed. He loves as much as he loves me. He loves you enough to die for you.

JOHN: God, you know us. We’re your babies. Father, sometimes we are disobedient. Sometimes we do not do what we’re supposed to do. But father, you told us that you loved us so much in John 3:16, that whoever believed in you shall not perish, but have everlasting life. And Father, we’re your babies. We need you in our life. Knock down the barriers for the ones that don’t believe in you, Father. Just knock the barriers down and let them know that you’re there, Father, because only until you come will they know how great you are, Father. So please, Jesus, just give us unyielded, unrestrained favor, today, Father, even if we don’t deserve it, Jesus. Amen.

SID: You know what? The Bible says if you confess your sins he is just and faithful to forgive you of all, all, all, no matter what you’ve done. Real quick, tell me the first message you ever gave, your first sermon.

JOHN: My first sermon, I gave my life to Christ and I went back to school to become a minister. I went to a funeral that another pastor was supposed to do. I get a phone call because he’s not there and it’s from a cousin of mine that tells me, “Hey, Johnny,” that’s what he called me, “I’m just telling you this because I know you’re at that funeral. The pastor ain’t showing up. The pastor owes us a whole lot of money and for drugs and I’m just telling.” Yeah, it’s hard to believe. “And until Monday, he’s gonna stay right here. So tell the family.” So I went to the family and I told them, I didn’t tell them whole story. I just said, “The pastor won’t show up.” And I said, “But I’m a pastor.” “You are?” And I said, “Yeah.” And they asked me, “Well would you do the service because the funeral home is waiting.” And I said, “I will.” And when I got up to speak the crowd there, I heard cursing.

SID: They know about you.

JOHN: He’s a pimp. He’s a thug. You know, he did this to me. I mean, all of this. And God just, I felt him. And I went up and I opened the service up with John 3:16. And I’ll tell you how I said it. I said, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him, even Johnny Turnipseed, shall not perish, but have everlasting life.” And then I told them, “I don’t know about the God you serve, but the one I serve said that and meant that, and I’m going to do this service.” And I got a standing ovation.

SID: Well now. What about that large extended family of pimps and fatherlessness, and prison, and murders, 34 members of your family serving time for murder right now? What’s going on with all of that family?

JOHN: Most of them that are in prison are saved.

SID: What percent would you say are saved?

JOHN: I would say 90 percent. I would say 90 percent. My children are saved. My brothers are saved. We are no longer raising criminals. We’re raising hopefully little preachers, you know. That’s my greatest hope. That’s bigger than the president in my family.

SID: Okay. With your family, you broke the curses. How can people watching you right now break the curses over their family, whether it’s sickness or whether it’s divorce, or whether it’s prison, or whether it’s addictions? Whatever. How?

JOHN: What I had to do with my family is we had to sit down and come face to face with these are the things, and be honest, that are plaguing our family, okay: the prostitution and the gang, and the drugs, all of that, father absence, men walking away from their children. We had to say some very unpleasant things about the reality of who we were. Okay. And then in agreement with each other we had to act on it. And then we had to arm ourself because the enemy came and he, man, did he ever come. When I started talking this message he started attacking my family more than he had, because before he could just leave us alone because we were doing it all by ourself. But once we started, we armed ourself with the Word and the blood of Jesus Christ and stuff that he had to back off. He had to back off.

SID: Did you hear that? He armed himself with the Word of God and the blood of Jesus. That’s why they had to back off. And I tell you the devil, the curses, are backing off in Jesus’ name.

JOHN: Amen.

We’ll be right back to It’s Supernatural.

Sid: I have on the telephone Jon Maracle I’m speaking to him at the Tyen-di-naga, oi vei was I close Jon?

Jonathan: Tyendinaga.

Sid: Oh I wasn’t even close territory Ontario, Canada where you were raised. You are a Native American from the Mohawk Tribe. And as a matter of fact you’ve done some pretty serious song writing with the television series “High Way to Heaven” played one of your songs how did they happen to do that?

Jonathan: Well I had written a song before I was a Christian and it was called “Survival in the Streets” and it’s amazing that the TV show “Highway to Heaven” picked it up before I was a Christian.  And it was about in with the in crowd and I wrote the song about the death and the struggle of people in the streets and the pain and the hardship of being on the street as a street way of life.

Sid: How did you end up in that type of a lifestyle coming from a really good Christian family?

Jonathan: Well I guess the thing that really took me in that direction was the hypocrisy in the church.  As I grew up as a young man I was in church most of my life as a young man, and you know I just noticed that people said one thing and did another a lot in church. And unfortunately I did not realize that it was a personal relationship that I needed and that I didn’t need to be looking to see other people and their walk but I needed to focus on my own. And this was when I was young and didn’t really realized that I was supposed to do it that way. So I watched people fall and rise and to me that was like “Well if you’re supposed to be a Christian aren’t you supposed to do things right?”  And so that’s why I left our home when I was 17 and began a career in Rock and Roll that lasted for 13 years.

Sid: We’re you much into drugs?

Jonathan: Oh yeah I did I did my fair share of drugs yeah.

Sid: Have any close calls?

Jonathan: Awe yeah I took enough at times to knock myself right out you know. And oh I spent some awful time drinking. I was so wrapped up in drugs that at the end when I was realizing that something had to change I couldn’t get away from them I had to have them every day and I’d drink, and I just felt life was over I didn’t even care to live any more.

Sid: But your father not only was he a minster he had a miracle ministry. Didn’t that have an impact on you even with the hypocrisies you saw the real thing also?

Jonathan: Yeah it did but you know the way of the world was sweet it seemed to me and I just kind of was wooed by people that were around me by piers and all.  I guess music was really caught my spirit. And I got involved in music you know I was in music in the church and then when I saw the excitement of the music in the world and I tasted and I kept going in that direction for a long time but it was a steady downhill spiral for me in my life.

Sid: What basically caused the difference what was the change besides going downhill and then dying?

Jonathan: Well I was in Hollywood, California and I had left home over 3 years before that and every once in a while I would call home and see if they would send me some money or something to help me out in my plight to become a world famous Rock singer (Laughing) that was my vision.  And I could remember calling home one time and my father I asked him if I could get some money from him and he said…and I hadn’t talked to him in like you know it was about a year from the first time that I had called him because I was arrogant and I didn’t want to have to ask but when I was down on my luck I guess the world would say “I called and I asked and I said “Dad can you help me?” And he said “Son I can’t help you do what I believe your doing is not of God.” He said “I believe God has a calling on your life” he said “And I’ll tell you this God has told me you will never make it in the world” he said “Because God has set you aside for His Kingdom.” And he said “When you turn to God” he said “You’re going to see but he said “Son I’ve got people all over North America that are praying for you every day.” And I got mad at my father on the phone and I swore at him and told him I didn’t want him to have his people praying for me because it was stopping me (Laughing) you know from doing what I wanted to do. So my dad and I didn’t talk for about 2 ½ years after that.  And I was really broken and I was in Hollywood and I had signed with a world record deal and it looked like things were going to start going where they’re getting sales in Germany and Japan and stuff like that through this band that I was joining they had already opened up these markets and I was going to be their lead singer. So I became a part of this band began to write and all and then the record company that picked us up we did a showcase for them and during this showcase I was singing the songs that kind of reflected my native heritage because that’s always been a big part of my life and so I was singing songs like the songs that I have as a Christian “Ride the Wind” And “Fly Like an Eagle” and different songs that reflected my heritage. So I sang these songs at the showcase and at the end my manager came to me after sitting with the producers and the people with the record company and told me they really liked the way you sing, they like your style they really like the band but they said “You don’t have enough connotations of evil and you don’t talk about sex and drugs and those things you need to talk about in your music. They said because that’s what the North America public wants.” And I looked at them and said “I’m native I want to sing about native things” I said “I want to sing about who I am and represent myself that way to the world.” And they basically said “We’re paying the bill so you do it our way or don’t do it at all.” I walked out and I became very very very depressed very broken didn’t really…I’d lost my will to live almost and I went out for a walk and saw some things happen in Hollywood that were just terrible a man got knifed that same day that I was in this terrible depression. The guy who knifed him on a bus jumped off and took off running. Just all of these things just helped to affect my condition that I was in and when I came back to my apartment I was crying and I sat at my desk and I always knew I was songwriter that I wrote my best songs in what emotional state I was in if I was really happy I could write a song that was really up.  If I was really broken I could write a song a tear jerker a bluesy song that was just you know draw people on their emotions. And so I sat down and thought “Well this is going to be a blues song of all blues songs.” And so I sat down and started to write it and as I wrote it I began to cry. Well 3½ years before when I was leaving Canada to go to Hollywood my dad gave me a ride to the bus terminal and as I was getting on the bus the last thing my father said to me and I hadn’t we didn’t talk all the way it was like a 20 minute drive to the bus terminal and I was taking the bus all the way to California. And the last thing he said to me when I got on the bus was “Jonathan when your backs against the wall, when you have nowhere to turn call out on the name of Jesus.” I just kind of looked at him and just kind of fluffed him off because I didn’t figure I needed Jesus I was arrogant, I was strong, I was a good singer, and I didn’t care about that and there was a hardness there. So when I was sitting at that table in Hollywood at my desk and I was writing this song and I began writing it and as I would sing it back to myself it was so depressing it would even make me worse so I was really crying. Right at that last minute I crumpled up the song and threw it in the garbage can and buried my head in my hands and I remembered those words my dad said “Call on the name of Jesus when your back’s against the wall.” Well I knew my back was against the wall and I said “Jesus help me!”  And within 10 minutes the phone rang and it was my father and this was 2½ years, at least 2 years, since I had spoken to my father and the phone rings and he says “Jonnie I’m coming to California to see you.” And I said “Dad” I said “You don’t want to see me here fly into Florida and I’ll come and see you and mom together.”  Because they were staying in a winter home in Florida and so my dad adjusted it so that I could go and stay and be with them and that was like the beginning of my call or…

Sid: You know we’re almost out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast Mishpochah. I thought when I heard Hebraic Spirit Filled music there could be nothing I’d like as much but I’ve heard Jon your Native American music. Tell me about this selection out of the English “My Father, My Father You are My God.”

Jonathan: Rake’ni:ha means my Father and Ah Ni Io means God. So I say Rake’ni:ha Ah Ni:Io My Father My God My Father and in my heart I’m going my Father you are my God. And you know it’s about a passionate relationship with one who took me and saved me from a suicidal non-caring place and took me from a place where I was doing drugs and I was drinking and couldn’t get away from it and He had such mercy on me.

Jonathan Maracle “Broken Walls”