Sid Roth

LAURA: So this is the 21st century. This is a broad question but what is the number one hook when you see people come in. It may differ for – 

DAWNA: Fear!

LAURA: A different demographic. Fear?

DAWNA: Fear!

LAURA: Always?

DAWNA: Hands down!

LAURA: Wow!

DAWNA: Because God did not give you a spirit of fear but power, love and a sound mind. And fear is number one!

LAURA: Okay. So that’s the root. What is the next immediate emotion? You know what I mean?

DAWNA: Uh-huh!

LAURA: Sometimes you’ve got to dig to find the fear. It usually manifests itself in some other way. What is that other thing usually?

DAWNA: Anger! I find that rage is, you know, and control!

LAURA: Right.

DAWNA: I find that the most controlling person you know is going to be the most fearful down inside.

LAURA: They are fearful. I agree.

DAWNA: Because they’re just like – they’re trying to arrange everything.

LAURA: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

DAWNA: So that they don’t get hurt or – yeah, fear.

LAURA: Yeah. I’ve been that person. I’ve also said that anger is a secondary emotion. Hurt – you know anger’s easier! Hurt feels too – it feels so hard to deal with. It’s painful! So it’s easier just to get mad! So I was just curious your bent on it like with all the people that you see that come through your ministry you know fear – it’s not a surprise that you answered with that. And fear is faith in the devil I heard somebody say one time, you know.

DAWNA: Yeah. Definitely.

LAURA: And so really it’s the opposite. It’s the opposite of the faith that we’re supposed to have.

DAWNA: Yeah. I heard someone else say to me that fear is the belief that something bad is going happen. Whereas faith is believing that something good is going to happen. And so I had a friend who worked as a policeman in Iraq and he said he would get up and he would flag every morning on top of the building and he said I just wouldn’t buy into fear. I was just going to say no, something good’s going to happen today.

LAURA: Wow!

DAWNA: Yeah.

LAURA: Okay. Just now I just felt like the Lord –

DAWNA: Hah! [laughs]

LAURA: Said that –

DAWNA: [laughs]

LAURA: Yeah. That there was someone when you said that word about there’s somebody who’s controlling. They try to arrange things. They did not understand about themselves that that’s fear. Would you pray them? 

DAWNA: Yeah. Yeah.

LAURA:  Because that was really a moment of revelation for somebody.

DAWNA: Yeah. So I would just say if that’s you if have that sense of people tell me that I’m controlling but I don’t think I am. I just like things in order that you would actually allow the Holy Spirit right now to look past that control and the need to be in order and that you would allow Him to take care of the fears. And I just break off of you the lie that God’s going to punish you. That God is looking to change what you’re doing because you’re not doing it right. And I just release you from any negative words spoken by your parents. That your mom maybe was like you should have done this better or why did you do that? We break [snapping finger sound] off a critical spirit that’s come against you that has made you fearful of failure, that has made you want to control. And your husband is going to love it if you’re a woman married and your wife will love it if you fix all this if you’re a married man!

LISA: I’ll forgive him when he brings forth some fruit worthy of repentance. Then I’ll forgive him when I have some kind of hope that this is not going to be another weekend like all the other weekends then I’ll forgive him. And the Holy Spirit said to me he cannot change unless you forgive him. And then he began to talk to me about when I come to Him and I ask for forgiveness. And I said God forgive me. I gossiped again. He doesn’t say to me You know what? You’re just going to do it again next week. Just come back when you’re really sorry, Lisa. He always says to me I believe you want to change and I forgive you. And God told me he said when your husband comes home from this weekend away rather than bringing up you did this, this, this and this but I forgive you. He said you can only say John, I believe you want to change and I forgive you. And from that time forward it was never a problem again. But it had created a fear in me and then John felt like a failure and the guilt and the shame and the condemnation he was feeling just escalated it. And you know there are some women and I mean I’m never saying a women that gets hit isn’t a victim, but I didn’t cower in a corner. I hit him back. So we were just ridiculous.

SID: You grabbed a lamp. (LAUGHING)

LISA: I grabbed a lamp and went after him. Absolutely. I did not, I did not take it laying down.

JOHN: (LAUGHING) Oh, man

SID: John, John, how did that John, how did that affect you when Lisa came with a Jesus type of attitude when you came back?

JOHN: You know I was, I was so humbled by it and so in awe of it that it made me want to change. And I mean I was like oh my gosh, she’s just, she’s, she’s not berating me. That’s the thing. We would berate each other. So I would just hone in on what she was doing wrong. She would hone in on what I would be doing wrong. And it was so freeing to me and it gave me a motivation even more so which I had already gotten when I went away and prayed that weekend, but a motivation to say gosh, I got to be her prince. I got to be her champion and you know I mean deep down in every single person you wouldn’t have married that person probably 99.9% of the time if the man didn’t want to be the champion for his wife. That’s the desire of every guy. And when Lisa started treating me with such tenderness and forgiveness, I was like it made me want to be her champion even more. Does that make sense?

SID: And, and so if that’s what the man is looking for, Lisa, what is the woman looking for?

LISA: Well I think every woman wants to know that she’s irreplaceable. Everything in our culture says to this woman  you’re never going to be good enough. You’re never going to be thin enough. You’re never going to be tall enough. You’re never going to be young enough. You’re never going to be beautiful enough. There’s always going to be a competitor out there that can displace you at any given moment. And I think that’s why so many women feel so insecure in their marriage. And so one of the best things that John did for me was he built me up. It was like, okay so when we were first, you know first dating all I had was a suntan and a six-pack. Not a beer. But I actually used to be buff and muscular. So John would say things like I bet she’s going to be an amazing mother. I bet she’s going to be great with money. I bet she’ll be a great cook. And I was an idiot! I didn’t know how to do any of those things.

SID: [LAUGHS]

ROY: And it sounds like you’re saying there’s no authority without love as well?

JENNIFER: What it is is it limits you. Your heart will only fight so far.

ROY: Yeah.

JENNIFER: You know because the pain gets too great. The battle gets too heated and if you don’t know His love and His intimacy you know you’ll stop short!

ROY: Gosh that’s so important! 

JENNIFER: Yeah.

ROY: Well listen, we’re going to come right back with Jennifer Eivaz and I am excited to tell you we’re going to minister to YOU!

JENNIFER: Amen!

ROY: You want to capture some of this today! Maybe you’re oppressed by something today. [music] Maybe you’re dealing with this thing. She’s going to help you through that because Jesus touched her, Jesus is going to use her to touch you! We’ll be right back right after this!

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ROY: Hey welcome back! [music ends] This is Roy Fields! Hi! And I’m with Jennifer Eivaz and we’ve been talking about how to get delivered from demonic oppression and how to be used in intercessory prayer and in the prophetic! And Jennifer you’ve been talking about you got delivered from this thing even after a Christian as we were talking through the show.

JENNIFER: Yeah! Yeah!

ROY: And then you’re now equipping and training people in the prophetic and I know for a fact there’s somebody out there watching this and they’re listening to your story and they’re thinking help me through this. What would you say to somebody right now if they’re going through what you’re going through? Cause I know there’s many!

JENNIFER: Yeah!

ROY: How would you lead them to step out of this thing that they’re dealing with?

JENNIFER: Well the first thing I would say to them and I’m actually going to minister in prayer in just a moment.

ROY: Okay.

JENNIFER: Cause I can feel it actually that there’s some people that are going to need some specific prayer. But it’s actually understanding that you’re not alone.

ROY: Yeah.

JENNIFER: And so you know I’m just going to talk to you right now that just understand that you’re not alone in what you’re dealing with! That there are many others like you who are dealing with feelings of torment. Hearing tormenting voices at night. Things in your house are shaking or moving on their own and you’re like this is crazy! I’m a Christian! I serve the Lord! This should not be happening at this stage, at this place in my life! And so first of all I want to tell you that you’re not alone but you are dealing with demonic oppression. And so I want to give you the tools right now to take authority over it and I want you to rise up in YOUR authority that YOU have in Christ and I want you to tell those things to go! I’m going to go first but then you’ll have the verbiage, you’ll have the words that you can continue on after this show is over. And so in the name of Jesus I just pray over you right now! I take authority over every demonic spirit that is tormenting you, that is keeping you awake at night, that is keeping you, keeping you in a feeling of being crazy and out of your mind.