Our Guest Dennis & Jennifer Clark
JENNIFER: Who can tell that the atmosphere changed in here?
DENNIS: And discerning the human spirit was the thing that was the strongest in me, but I never really told anybody. But I would find tactful ways to tell somebody, “You gave the right Biblical answer and you were sincere, but let’s try to go a little deeper because I could feel, if the hurt’s still there, that’s not forgiveness. Jesus is the only One that can take your shame, your hurt, your pain, your fear, nobody else can take it. You can find all kinds of substitutes.”
JENNIFER: You can suppress it,
DENNIS: But it’s going to be expressed later. But the bucket goes down to your spirit,
SID: The rope is cranking it down slowly. This is the way I do it, anyway. You go all the way down and get in touch with your spirit.
DENNIS: And now see, when the Lord showed me this in the school of the spirit, He says, “Now that you’re down here, you’re touching Me”. I didn’t worry about whether I got a word or a revelation. I have Him. And I’m spirit to Spirit engaged in a spiritual perception and I’m touching Him. It’s relationship. And then all of a sudden, the way I learned this was all of a sudden, I’m enjoying that presence, down here, it is sweet communion, me and Jesus. And then all of a sudden, I would see my foreman at works’ face in my mind and that peace went away instantly and it went, “Errrrt!” And the Lord said, “Don’t let anything come between what you and I have together.” That’s when I went, that “Errrrt!” with the foreman, I let forgiveness flow to him. And here’s the interesting thing. I saw his snarling face in my head, but there was peace down here. That from my perception, all I cared about was Jesus is back and there’s nothing in the way now.
JENNIFER: But He didn’t go anywhere, you went somewhere [laughs].
DENNIS: Yes. A toxic emotion means that you have opened the door to the enemy’s territory. And His peace never leaves you, but you can walk away from that peace by getting preoccupied. But almost, let me tell a story on Jennifer and we’ll do it with you too. We’re in the car and, you do not need words. We’re used to prophesying and declarations, decree, declare, and that’s all good but you start with the source. See discernment goes, “What’s the source behind the words, the proclamation?”
JENNIFER: Is it a good source or a bad source?
DENNIS: Is it coming from the head or is it coming from the heart? Is it a good source or a bad source? So, we’re in the car and all of a sudden, the car floods with anxiety, but nobody’s talking. And I look over and I go, “Jennifer, tell me what you’re thinking.”
JENNIFER: [laughs]
