Our Guest Bruce Van Natta
KYLE: Welcome back to Something More! I’m Kyle Winkler and joining me is Bruce Van Natta! Bruce, we’re talking about prayer! And you were just telling us about your friend Tim and how he didn’t realize that God was speaking to him the whole time but yet He was!
BRUCE: Yeah, and I think it’s so common! I think we see this so often with Christians who don’t believe or realize that God is speaking to anybody just like Tim. Even then he said it’s a coincidence! What a crazy coincidence. And I said Tim, look at the timing! Look at the timing! We’re talking about seconds!
KYLE: And this was time after time!
BRUCE: Three times in a row over the period of three weeks and it comes right down to the second! It wasn’t a coincidence! And I said tell me what prompted you? And he said it was just a thought. And I said that’s it, Tim! That’s how God speaks to us! It’s those thoughts! Now discernment then is realizing that that thought is really from God, right? I mean and getting mature in knowing that. But God is speaking and it’s Spirit to spirit so it comes in our thoughts.
KYLE: How do we get to the point of recognizing that it’s God’s voice in our lives? I know you have something with a State Fair that has helped you with this.
BRUCE: Yeah. Well, so I just use this analogy a lot of times for people because it makes sense to them. Let’s say you and I are at a State Fair. Any other large function with thousands of people and you got separated from your loved one. A husband, a wife, a brother, a sister. You get separated from someone and there’s thousands of people around you. You can’t see them but all of a sudden they start calling your name in that crowd. You’re going to what? You’re going to recognize that voice. Even if you can’t see them you’re going to recognize that voice because you know them! So you’re going to recognize their voice because you know them and it’s the same way with God!
KYLE: Which goes back to the scripture you mentioned in the previous segment.
BRUCE: Exactly.
KYLE: “That My sheep hear My voice.”
BRUCE: Exactly. And so once we get to know Him, once we have intimacy and get to know Him. How do we do that? We do that by spending time! Just like you do with anybody else. Spending time with them! How do we spend time with God? Through prayer. Through reading the Bible. You know just that back and forth. Practicing His presence. And then we get to realize oh, this is God speaking! Oh, I just read this verse. This is applying right now! But you know in that State Fair the person recognizes the voice because they know Him! It’s the same way with us! We have to get to know God! We have to get to know Him so that when you know when He speaks we recognize that voice now.
KYLE: After all the distractions, and there are plenty with all the social media and everything that is going on, there are plenty of voices and the only way that we’re really going to hear God is if we can get into His Word. If we can be intimate with Him! Spend time with Him so that we’re hearing His voice over all of the others!
BRUCE: That’s right.
KYLE: What do you say to people that would say well I don’t know if God speaks anymore? You know there was even a recent media person that said people have, mental illness if they’re hearing from God!
BRUCE: Sure.
KYLE: What do you say to something like that?
BRUCE: It’s real, simple! I go back to the Word! John 10:27. “My sheep know My voice.” It’s clear. There’s a period on the end of that sentence, right? John 8:47. “He who belongs to God hears what God says.” “He who belongs to God hears what God says.” Again another analogy. FM radio tower. The FM signal is going out. It’s going out. It’s going out. Now if you’re driving along or let’s say old school. You have a really old car where you have a tuner instead of digital and you actually had to turn it. If you didn’t have your tuner tuned in, even though that signal is being transmitted, you’re not going to get it. Right?