Sid Roth

JERAME:  You know people that don’t manifest? You know God told me this about them. He said, Jerame, there are so many people that are feelers. Right? You know they’re the ones that are just always getting touched by God. And then there’s the ones that don’t manifest at all. He said Jerame, you want to know why they don’t manifest? I said Why? He said Those are the ones called to be the watchmen on the walls. He said it wouldn’t make sense if the watchmen were rolling around on the ground, would it? How could you be watching if you’re – You know? See for some of you right now you’re getting set free as I even tell you that. Because you’re starting to realize, Oh, wait a minute, with that calling to be a watchman I now have an authority, not to judge manifestations but to actually pray. You know manifestations are interesting. People that laugh like crazy. You know, people will start laughing and they’ll fall on the ground. We’ve been in meetings where the joy of the Lord comes. The spiritual sense of touch opens and you can tell people will leave the meeting – I don’t know if that’s of God! Well how could it not be? When did the devil give people joy? You know?

AUDIENCE:  [LAUGHTER]

JERAME:  And not only didn’t, when did the devil give people joy, but what’s the fruit of the encounter? I remember we were in England, right? And this lady falls off the front row, starts laughing and her hat falls off and she’s bald. And I thought Oh, wow. You know? And she’s laughing and laughing and she goes, grabs her hat, puts it back on and starts screaming. She jumps up and she’s screaming and dancing so I’m thinking this looks like a good time to see what’s going on. So I said What’s happening? And she said I came tonight and I had a cancerous tumor on the back of my head. She said it was massive and I can’t find it anymore. I started laughing and it disappeared!

AUDIENCE:  [CLAPPING]

JERAME:  See why am I mentioning that? Because if somebody starts to get touched by God instead of going I don’t know if that’s of God we just go No, God is opening up the sense of touch. More Lord. Bless them. Bless them, God. So if you’re at home praying and you feel the fire of God, maybe you need to go Okay, Lord, what do you want to burn out of my life? Or maybe you go God, is there someone you want to heal or deliver because Your fire delivers and heals. See, I’m telling you all these things – I’m kind of just flowing spontaneously. I’m, I’m going off the top of my head. Don’t have my notes. But what I’m saying is this: God wants us to grow in to a fuller state of maturity.

That’s why Hebrews 5:14 it says: But solid food belongs to those who are of a mature age who by reason of use have exercised their spiritual senses to discern good from evil. See God wants us to walk in discernment. And I believe that in the times and the days that we’re living in we must have discernment. And the reason why is cause not everything is of God that people are saying is of God. Doctrines and things that people are preaching. And you know I, I want you to understand something. One of the things that will earmark encounters with God will be the holiness and the purity of God. And you can see that, you know, when the elders are worshipping Jesus in heaven.

They’re throwing their crowns down at his feet and they’re going holy, holy, holy is the Lord God almighty, who was and who is and who is to come! And I’ll tell you I don’t think you have to force people into purity. It’s not don’t this and do that and putting legalistic things on people. Because I’ll tell you what. You put rules on people they’ll break ‘them! But if you teach people to fall in love with Jesus they’ll be transformed. And there’s a by-product of purity and holiness that comes when you see the Lord. I believe every believer needs to see the Lord because there’s a by-product that comes.

That’s the reason why the elders keep casting their crowns before the Lord and crying holy, holy, holy is it’s because every time they truly give Him the honor for who He is in their lives He reveals a new facet of who He is to them. See the motivation of their heart is I’m throwing my crown before you and I’m crying holy not cause it’s a religious thing but because when I honor You as my King and as my Lord and as my Savior, when I lift You up and I give you the position of who You are in my in my life You reveal to me a new facet of who You are. Ah, Jesus. You see that’s what God wants to do today. He wants to reveal a new facet of who He is in this place. Ha-ha. Thank you, Jesus.

Like for instance, I remember one of the first times I ever had an angelic visitation where I got activated to see in the spirit. It was because of another guy, a prophet was telling me about this angelic visitation that he had. And, and in this experience he had an angel come and he saw ‘them in a vision and he came with a blue ball and he put it in his belly and it was an activation of revelation and, and from that moment on he had all these dreams and these visions and at that point I had never had an encounter like that. And I remember I said God, I want that!

How many of you know there’s a good jealousy and there’s a bad jealousy. Right? How many of you know that when you hear testimonies about the supernatural and the power of God it should provoke you to want more of God. Not discourage you and go God, that’s not fair. You’ll do that with them but not with me. See God wants to do it with you. You just got to realize that if people are walking in more of God than you are they’re an example to you of how much of God you can have if you will mature in relationship like they have. And so I’m, I’m looking at this guy and said God, I’ve never had an encounter like this.

I really want one! And I remember the next day I said, God, I’m going to position myself. If you want encounters you’ve got to position yourself. How do you positon yourself? Make time to pray. Make time to wait on Jesus. Make time to press into Him and, and worship Him. You know most of the major encounters I’ve had have come not when I am seeking encounters but I’m just in the middle of worship. And then, they happen. And, so that was what was happening. I was worshipping God and all of a sudden I became aware that there was an angel in the room. But here’s the thing. I didn’t see it, I felt it. And all of a sudden I felt this fist go into my belly and it like doubled me over and I went phew like this and I felt a release of heat in my stomach.

And I remember thinking it’s, it’s funny how we are as humans, I remember thinking God, I want to see it, like as it’s happening! But I knew that I had the same encounter that my friend did. And you know what’s amazing though is from that moment on visionary experiences with God went to a whole other level. I mean they just heightened. They went to the next level. I began to have trances and visions and encounters and, and, and what was funny about it was afterwards when I prayed, I said God, what, what’s the deal? Like how come I didn’t see it? And this is what God said. He said You did see it. It’s the same.

So I want you to understand something. Our five senses are heightened. And you know what? Just cause you hear something doesn’t mean that it’s less level, a lower level than someone that sees it or just because you feel something doesn’t mean it’s less of an impartation than the one that saw it. My friend saw it, right, and the activation happened. I felt it. The activation happened but the fruit was the same. See, why am I sharing this? Because some of us need to hear this because we’re frustrated. And, and what happens is sometimes we don’t like our gift and we don’t like the way that we’re wired in the spirit and we’re too busy chasing after everybody’s, everybody else’s rather than being secure in who we are in God. Does that make sense?

RODNEY: It should be, a person has a demon. It is the word, like the subject, the verb, echo, and then it, really, the dema. So a person has a demon.

SID: So it could be a Christian has a sickness.

RODNEY: Yeah. In fact, it’s used like that, Christian has a sickness. John the Baptist had a camelhair coat. You know Mary had a child. I mean it’s like a person has this or a person has an offense. It’s not that a demon has a person. The other time that it’s used, it’s a verb. It’s a very general verb, [foreign language], so it could talk about the guy at the Gadarene or it could talk about, listen, I just have a spirit that’s harassing me. So the word oppressed probably better describes about a person having a demon. Because a Christian cannot be owned by a demon, but they can be oppressed by one.

SID: Well, it’s a fine line. Some say a Christian could not have a demon in their spirit, but they for sure could have one in their flesh, just as you could be sick in your flesh. Is that a sin? No, it’s a sin if you could get rid of it and not get rid of it, and you just keep it the rest of your life. But, okay, tell me about, real briefly, your first deliverance.

RODNEY: My deliverance happened by seven months earlier. And by this time I’d moved to Washington State and I’m pastoring a church. My wife set up an appointment for me to minister to one of our young ladies that she thought had a demon. By this time, my wife and I were talking about this. She invites her over and I asked my wife, “Why did you do this? I never done this before. I don’t really know what I’m doing.” But she said, “You are her pastor, so you should be the one,” So she pulled a pastor card out on me, and I had to do it.

RODNEY: So she came over and I got a little bit of phone instruction, but I really didn’t know. So I didn’t know how to start this thing. So I mean, I’ve never seen one. So I thought, well I’ll just read scripture. Maybe I can stir them up. So I read scripture, but that didn’t work. So then I said, “Well let’s pray.” So we all bowed our head and closed our eyes and prayed, which by the way, do not close your eyes when you’re ministering in this area.

SID: Why?

RODNEY: Well, because you want to see what’s going on.

SID: Okay.

RODNEY: You want to observe this stuff, so you don’t want to close your eyes to a demon, but nobody told me the rule, so I didn’t know. So I got our eyes closed and I’m praying. As soon as we finished praying, I’m looking up, my wife’s looking up, and she couldn’t open her eyes. I go, “What do you mean you can’t open your eyes?” She goes, “I can’t open my eyes.”

RODNEY: I looked at my wife and I said, “What did you get us into?” But I said, “In the name of Jesus, I command those eyes to open,” and boom, they opened. And I go, whoa it worked. And then she couldn’t hear me. She was deaf. And then I said the same thing, “In the name of Jesus-“

SID: Was she naturally deaf?

RODNEY: No, all of a sudden…she sees my lips moving, but she can’t hear a thing. So then I said, “I command those ears to open,” and boom, they opened up. And for the next several hours, several hours, that was the worst experience of my life. And I don’t know if they left because we drove them out or we wore them out, but they ended up leaving. But by the end of the night, I looked at that face and I saw a face of freedom and I said, “Lord, I don’t like the mess, but I love the face.” I’ll do it for that.