Our Guests John Veal
JOHN: So the next day, it was a Sunday, I was in my church. I felt led to really, really minister deliverance at the end of my message and as I did this, everyone in the church started manifesting even the elders and leaders that were going to assist the other people. They started dropping on the floor. It was unbelievable. I never seen anything like that in my life.
SID: Are you special or can every believer walk in that kind of authority?
JOHN: Well, Jesus said in scripture that one of the signs of them that believe, one of the first things he said was, cast out devils. They shall cast out devils. Any believer can cast out devils. You don’t have to be a deliverance minister, a prophet, apostle. If you’re a believer, you can cast out devils. That’s one of the signs. It shows you are believer in the messiah.
SID: Just between the two of us, most Christians seem to be afraid of the devil. It should be the other way around.
JOHN: Absolutely. Absolutely. He’s a defeated foe. Luke 10 and 19 says, behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy. One version says he gives you authority to destroy Satan’s power, so we have to walk in that authority and believe it. Speak it. Declare it. Decree it. The devil is under our feet. He’s a defeated foe. We give them too much power, too much access in our lives, but he is defeated already by the wonderful work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
SID: And you know this is so important for you to understand this whole area of deliverance. It’s not an emphasis, but it’s part of the package because shortly millions of young people are going to come to the Lord. We’re going to have the greatest move of God’s plan. And when they come to the Lord…I was messed up big time when I came to the Lord, but they’re even messed up more, if that’s possible. They’re into more stuff than I even imagined it was possible to be into and they’re going to need to be set free and they’re not going to have to go to a deliverance specialist. That’s part of the package.
SID: So that same presence of God on you, that drives the devil nuts. It’s on what you teach. It’s on your books. You are going to have to understand that you can’t go running to some pastor somewhere and knock on his door at midnight. “I need help”. You’re the one that God….. the Jesus in you is as strong is the Jesus in me and the Jesus in John. Now one of the things you’ve said that I thought was pretty interesting, you said when we identify the strongest demon…into something you describe it like a heavy ball and chain. What happens? That was fascinating.
JOHN: Mark 3 and 27 talks about binding the strong man and then being able to plunder his goods in his house. So I believe that with effective deliverance we need to go for the strong man. Jesus went in for Legion and he got rid of all those demons and so a lot of times we waste a lot of time going for minorly demons and I mean say someone has a thousand demons in them, it’s going to take more than a lifetime, a couple of lifetimes to get them totally delivered. But if we can get that head demon, that chief demon, we can get him out. It’s just like a ball and chain analogy. If I take a ball and chain, I throw it off a bridge and anything that’s attached to it that’s lighter than it, it’s going to go over. So when we get this big, chief demon, this heavy demon to get out of a person, all the other demons that are connected to them are going to go too. And then that way you have a effective, full deliverance.
SID: What he has been taught step by step by God. He’s put in his teaching and in his books and you told me you had such resistance when you did this book. You know why he had such resistance? Because the devil knew that you were going to read this and listen to this teaching and you were going to be just like Jesus in front of someone with a demon. John will pray for the spirit of fear, sickness and failure to leave when we return. Be right back.