Sid Roth

SID: Now, some of you, this is a new area, others understand, but I’m telling you, this is lifesaving, essential end time information. Becky Dvorak define the demon of death.

BECKY: The spirit of death. It’s a demon and it’s a deadly demon and it’s out to steal, to kill, and to destroy us in every way possible.

SID: Give me some examples to identify this.

BECKY: A spirit of death would come after someone in the area of incurable rare diseases or someone has reoccurring sickness and disease in their bodies that they just can’t seem to get free of. They have thoughts of suicide or they have murderous terroristic thoughts against other people including abortion, and sometimes people are so bound by a spirit of fear. That’s what a spirit of death does to people and you know that it’s attacking you.

SID: How does this get into people?

BECKY: The spirit of death, it’s real sly, it’s real cunning and it’s looking for a weakness. It’s looking for an entrance into your life, and so if you’re weak in faith in a certain area, it’ll come after you in that manner. Negative emotions are definite open doors to the spirit of death to come in.

SID: What’s the first thing, when we recognize there’s something going on and it isn’t just normal. What do we do?

BECKY: Well, we need to take our authority over it and renounce it. Cut it off from us in the name of Jesus.

SID: How do you do that?

BECKY: Well, an example is to lay your hand on your body and say, “In the name of Jesus, I renounce the spirit of death. I command it out of my body and I release the spirit of life into it in the name of Jesus.”

SID: I have many people that teach based on studying the Bible, Becky teaches based on firsthand experience, but unfortunately she didn’t have anyone teaching her these things. You were on the mission field and you get hit with the worst kind of typhoid that it’s possible. Tell me about that. And you didn’t do nothing. You didn’t know even how to fight it.

BECKY: You’re right. I didn’t know how to fight it. And with typhoid, it’s something that reoccurs in your body and it’s high fevers and it’s very painful and it just totally drains you. It wears you out. And this time it was level four, which was the worst. And I didn’t know what I know today. I didn’t know to come against it. I didn’t know those things. And I remember just laying in my bed in our bedroom and I just reached a point where I just didn’t want to fight anymore. And I just said, “God, take me home.”

God, take me home.

BECKY: And as soon as I said those words, “Take me home, God.” I heard the Lord speak to me in the form of a rebuke. And He said, “Get up.”

Get up.

BECKY: “Get out of bed and get dressed.”

Get out of bed and get dressed.

BECKY: And you know what? It’s what I needed to hear, Sid. And I heard the Lord say again, but not in the form of a rebuke, but in the form of an encouragement, like you can do it. And He said, “Get up, get out of bed and get dressed.”

Get up, get out of bed and get dressed.

BECKY: And it was very ungraceful, very un-lady like I’m telling you, but I just slid out of the bed onto a lump on the floor and I crawled. It took everything within me, but I crawled to that dresser and I got myself dressed. It took a long time, but I got myself dressed and then I crawled to the door and I had to try and reach and open up that door, but I got it open. And then I had to pull myself up in the doorway. But I got myself up and I was leaning against this wall, this hallway, and with every step I’m telling you, I felt strength return to my body. And from that moment on, I never ever had another bout with typhoid. I never had one symptom of it in my body.

SID: You know, Becky, never give up.

BECKY: Amen.

SID: Never give up.

BECKY: Never.

SID: Never give up.

BECKY: Amen.

ROBIN: Well, that’s the essence of the understanding of this episode with these wagons, Sid, was the Lord said I would understand the meaning of the wagons if I would study the story of Joseph’s restoration with Jacob.

For 22 years, Jacob believed that Joseph was dead, and he wasn’t dead. He suffered 22 years unnecessarily. Now, when there was that restoration between Joseph and his brothers, he was now head of Egypt. Basically, he sent back wagons to his father to prove to him he was still alive. And the Bible says there in Genesis 45; it says, “when Jacob heard that Joseph was alive, his heart failed him. But when he believed the words of Joseph and saw the wagon sent to return him to Egypt,” it says, “Jacob’s heart revived.” First-time the word revival mentioned in the whole scripture. And the very next verse, it says, Israel said, “this is more than I could ever have imagined. I will now go and see my son.” In a single moment in time he went from 22 years of despair, by revelation, into the transformation from Jacob to Israel.

SID: Comment on the power of word curses against a person and a believer, especially having a critical spirit.

ROBIN: Exactly, well, you know, as I was writing the book and trying to articulate this thing about criticism, I remembered a story of how they control elephants. When an elephant is a baby, they get a stake, they get a chain strong enough to hold that baby elephant, and as the elephant grows, it is built into his mind that no matter how big he gets that little chain and that little stake he can never get free from. And that’s what happens when people curse you with a bad description or description that that makes you believe you’re someone less than you really are. And that’s the power of criticism. It becomes a stronghold that you need to reject and renounce and believe the things God has to say about you in the words.

SID: Let me go back to that analogy. As that elephant grew–

ROBIN: Yeah.

SID: He had the ability to do that with just like, a feather, that stake.

ROBIN: Exactly.

SID: I mean as he got that big, but those word curses, keep us victims.

ROBIN: They trap us into being a person that we never were.

SID: It’s a deception.

ROBIN: It’s an absolute deception.

SID: And what about deliverance?

ROBIN: Well, the Bible talks about God being the God of hope, and it says may the God of hope give you joy and peace through the power of believing the truth, Sid. And that’s what we need to do. We need to realize that when we’re trapped, we’re not believing the truth. I had the Lord telling me this early one morning Sid, it’s so amazing, the Lord said to me, “Robin, each one of my children is my own personal favorite.” And I thought about that then he said, “but very few believe it.” When you begin to believe that you’re God’s favorite person, many of those lies begin to break off. Many of them break off because God identifies each one of us as a beloved child.

SID: But I believe you have the authority.

ROBIN: Yes.

SID: To break word curses–

ROBIN: Yes Sir!

SID: Off of those that are watching this show right now.

ROBIN: That’s what we’re going to do.

SID: Would you pray that prayer?

ROBIN: Yes Sir. Father, in the name of Jesus, as I see this viewing audience, those who have been cursed, described inaccurately. I ask by the power of the spirit of God, all Lord, and by the grace and the mercy that we find in Christ Jesus. We break those word curses now and we release a manifestation of the presence and the glory and the peace of God. In Jesus’ name. Amen.

SID: And Amen!

ROBIN: It is happening now.

SID: That was powerful. Now let me ask you something, God showed you five wagons and they all had to do with the theme, The Harbinger of Hope.

ROBIN: Yes.

SID: What do you mean by Harbinger of Hope?

ROBIN: Well to me, my encounter was a Harbinger of Hope. And a harbinger, it’s a forerunner. It’s something that comes before something that’s just behind it. For instance, I’m actually a harbinger. My name Robin, robins always appear before the springtime, and I can promise you this, when people believe the gospel. I preach, when this Robin comes, when this harbinger comes and declares to them the goodness of God, when they believe that their springtime comes too. And so, my Harbinger of Hope was the encounter I had because God has five amazing blessings, which are all incorporated in the gospel of Christ Jesus, that are to be released to the world in an unprecedented outpouring and harvest.

SID: Well, God showed Robin that there are many people that are hopeless. Not only will Robin pray for people who feel hopeless to be injected with supernatural faith, but also what he sees on the horizon far nation. You’re not going to want to miss this, be right back.

BOB: Welcome to Something More. I’m Bob Duvall, and joining me today is Stephanie Schureman. Stephanie is the founder of “Dwelling Place Ministries.” She’s an author. She’s a speaker. And she’s a homeschooling mom of six.

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: And, Stephanie, I’m excited. Because Stephanie is joining us today to tell us about hearing from Jesus in our everyday life. Now, I think everybody knows the picture of, you know, like the Ten Commandments, and Moses going up on the mountain and hearing God’s voice. And that’s how we hear God’s voice. Right?

STEPHANIE: Yes.

BOB: But that’s not always how it is. And that was just Moses. Can everybody hear from Jesus?

STEPHANIE: Absolutely. You’re never too young or too old to hear from Jesus. He wants to speak to you. It doesn’t matter who you are, or where you are, or what you’ve done. It doesn’t matter if you’re the worst person on the planet or the best. The Lord wants to speak to you, and He is working all the time to get your attention and speak to you. We just have to catch the subtle hints.

BOB: Now, you’re a busy person. I can tell just from the things I described already. But one of the things that you do, is you lead something called Fire Camp.

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: And you have young people there. Of course, old people come, too. But it’s geared toward young people.

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: And this is one of the things you teach the young people. Right?

STEPHANIE: Yes.

BOB: How to hear God.

STEPHANIE: Yes. One of the most important things that we do in Fire Camp is that we want to have every child have an encounter with Jesus before the camp is over. And we started out with kids about ages 8 to 15. And, but as the time has gone on, adults have gotten jealous and said, “Please do an adult.”

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: So we do adult Fire Camps and missionary Fire Camps. And then, we’ve sent it now all over the world. It’s a fun time of just learning to know and experience what the presence of the Lord feels like. That’s our main goal. But we don’t, there’s no entertainment involved in this. We just simply want to experience the presence of the Lord and enjoy Him, and know what it’s like when He speaks to us when the angels are. What does it feel like when the angels are around us? What does it feel like when we,  how do we pray for somebody, and asking the Lord how He would pray, and what do we do? So we’re always asking Jesus what’s on His mind.

BOB: Now, what about somebody who might say, “Well, why does Jesus want to speak to me?” In fact, tell me about Gertrude.

STEPHANIE: Yes. Well, I was teaching an adult Sunday School class many years ago. And I had this dear precious Gertrude who I picked up for church every day, every Sunday. And she was in her 80’s, I believe. And she had this very small house that she lived in. It was very small. 10 or 12 by 12 feet. That’s all, the only space she had. And all day long Gertrude sat in this space and watched Christian TV and just loved on Jesus. But one day she comes into Sunday School, and she says, “Stephanie?” She says, “Why on earth would God want to speak to me? I don’t talk to anybody else. I don’t have any way of evangelizing.

BOB: Yeah. She has no influence on anybody.

STEPHANIE: She felt like she had nobody to talk to, except to love her own family when they would come. And I said, “Oh Gertrude.” I said, “You are precious in God’s sight.” And I said, “Think about it. You have the best job on the planet. You get to just worship Jesus.” And I said, “Yes. He wants to talk to you. You’re just as, you’re even maybe more important than talking to the president at times. [laughs] But He wants to speak to you the same as He wants to speak to anybody else on the earth, no matter what kind of power or influence they have.” And she, Gertrude got a hold of that concept.

BOB: Uh-huh.

STEPHANIE: – and began to have the most precious experiences, not only talking to Jesus, but Him talking back to her. And she was realizing that “He does want to talk to me.” And she would just come with tears and amazing experiences. I know she was having angelic experiences, even every day. And even through the night, she was having amazing heaven dreams.

BOB: Yeah. And so, if somebody is feeling like Gertrude,

STEPHANIE: Uh-huh.

BOB: -like, you know, I have no influence. You know. But even Gertrude,

STEPHANIE: Uh-hum.

BOB: Even if you’re just in a little room by yourself all day long, you can influence the world by hearing from Jesus.

STEPHANIE: That’s right.

BOB: In prayer, and worship, and His presence.

STEPHANIE: Absolutely.

BOB: Now, how about for you? How did you learn to begin to hear from Jesus in your everyday life?

STEPHANIE: I think one of the funniest experiences I had with it, I always felt like I could hear from the Lord, and hear His voice, and understand Him. But I realized that the Lord was repeating things through my day a lot of times. And one of the funniest experiences was – I was sitting at a stop sign one day. And Max Lucado had just written a book called “3:16, The Numbers of Hope.” And so this billboard had this book advertised. And the numbers 3:16 were huge on this board. And I’m sitting there staring at these numbers. And I thought, “Wait a minute. That’s my birthday.” [laughs]

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: And then I’m thinking, “I wake up at 3:16 almost every single night, and I know the Lord wants to pray. You know, He wants me to pray.”

BOB: [Laughs]

STEPHANIE: And so I pray at 3:16. And I’m like, “He’s really talking to me through those numbers.” And it was just a stunning revelation. I look back on it now, and I just laugh, because everything’s 3:16. I’ll go to a hotel and, you know, my room number’s 3:16, you know. And I still wake up at 3:16. And I’ll look at the clock at 3:16 during the day. So that number’s all over the place. Well, we can, obviously, tie that to Scripture so easily, because of John 3:16. And many times, if you’re seeing numbers repeat, like 1, 1, 1, or 11, 11, those kinds of numbers – You know, people will say, “What does 4, 4, 4 mean?” And so you tie those numbers to Scripture. And the Lord may be speaking to you right out of His Word. He may be giving you the address. You know, 1, 2, 3, 4 can even be a fantastic Scripture. So just go look up those numbers. Deuteronomy 1:11 is the blessing upon everyone, and how the Lord will bless us a thousand times. But, you know, you just go through and look up from Genesis to Revelation all of the Scriptures with that address, 1:11. And find out what Scripture speaks to you. And then began to stand on it. Every time you see 1, 1, 1, you go immediately, “Lord, I know You’re speaking to me about this blessing. And I know You’re blessing me.” And just, when He’s speaking, you can tie into that and say, “I’m calling on that blessing right now.” Because He’s actually initiating that conversation.

BOB: Well, Stephanie, we’re going to take a break right here. And Stephanie had an encounter with Jesus [music] in her basement laundry room. So we’re going to find out about that in just a moment. We’ll be right back.