Our Guest Tom Horn and Cris Putnam
SID: Now, now who says that?
TOM: Well he could give you some of the names.
SID: Okay— just comment on the statement he made.
CRIS: I mean there have been various Catholic scholars who have seen the final pope in this role. One was a Jesuit way back then, Lacunza, Cardinal Manning is another one. O’Connor gave that homily in the 1980’s in New York where he predicted that the Roman church would go apostate and become the seat of the anti-Christ. Now one of the reasons why I think this final pope is the false prophet, is if you look in the Book of Revelation in chapter 13 it talks about 2 beasts. The first beast is the anti-Christ, the second beast is the false prophet. When it describes the false prophet the language is “he has horns like a lamb yet speaks like a dragon.” Now I think we all would recognize “like a lamb” would be trying to identify someone as, that has a Christian identity, at least an appearance like a lamb. The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. Horns in apocalyptic literature is a generally a symbol of power. So here we have a powerful Christian leader who speaks like a dragon. And I think we all know who the dragon is in the Book of Revelation. So to me that’s really identifying this false prophet as a pope, I think. I mean if you ask anyone in the world, you know from all cultures, who’s the most powerful Christian leader, you know worldwide I think your majority answer’s going to be the pope, you know even if they’re not Catholic. So I think that the Book of Revelation has, has pretty much given us a really strong hint that’s what we should expect.
SID: Okay, we’re not going to speculate on the next pope because we’re doing this before he’s announced. Next question.
QUESTIONER #6: Well, before I got saved miraculously I was praying that God would please give me a sign and if I could be forgiven because I thought I had went over the 490 times, you know, and I was deceived to think “no way I could be forgiven.” And I saw a light like you’re talking about. It come in my room and it changed me, something happened. And anyways I’ve really been drastically just seeking God, seeking His word, reading, and whatnot. And over these past years I’ve seen some, met some Christians who practice, I mean Catholics who are practicing that, you know, religion, that they pray to Mary and go, you know, before a priest and confess their sins. And I would say to them according to the word, it says that we only have one high priest in the Book of Hebrews, and says there is only one mediator between God and man, and he is Christ Jesus. And, so if someone does, if they take their last breath and they never change from that and they continue to go through the rituals of praying to Mary or going into a church and confessing their sins before a priest, would that person enter into the kingdom of heaven?
SID: Well that’s an easy question to answer. I’ll take that. Jesus said there’s no other name in which a man must be saved but the name of Jesus. And so therefore they could be in some heretical doctrine, but if they believe Jesus died, rose from the dead, and by His stripes they are healed and forgiven, then they go to heaven. Next question.