Sid Roth

PERRY:  Bless the Lord! We want to welcome you to this Mentoring Session. We’re going to be dealing today, I’m Perry Stone, we’re going to be dealing with a book that has been rejected by some in our culture today because of perhaps the difficulty of not understanding the symbolism of it, or perhaps because people think it’s a negative Book or perhaps because people think it’s already been fulfilled.  And that is the Book of Revelation. And the Book of Revelation, a little bit history about the Book. Was written by the Apostle John. And it’s real interesting because I want to go back and tell you a statement that Christ made. Christ made a statement in which He said: “There are some of you standing here which shall not taste death until you see the Son of man coming in the Kingdom.” Now some people believe that because Jesus made that statement that all of His prophecies about the time of the End had to happen by the destruction of the Temple in the year 70. But then if you take the statement that Jesus made and go to John 21 where He is there with His disciples. Remember that He gives a prediction to Peter that Peter would live to be an old man. And Peter says to John, he looks at John the Apostle, and says: “What about this man?” And Jesus makes this statement: He says, “What is it to you if he tarry or he’s still living when I come?” The next verse written by John says, “Then went this saying abroad among the disciples that that disciple should not die.” But Jesus did not say he would not die, he just said what is it to you if he tarry ‘til I come. Based on that verse there are people that feel like all of the prophecies had to be fulfilled in the time of John. So in other words this came up with the doctrine that we hear today called “preterism.” Where people take those two verses and they say well you know the Book of Revelation had to already been fulfilled because Jesus said “All of this will come on one generation” and Jesus said “This generation shall not pass until all these things are fulfilled.” Now if you don’t understand what Jesus is saying there you would think that the Book of Revelation was written before the destruction of the Temple or you would think that the Book of Revelation’s already been fulfilled. But notice what I am about to tell you. According to early church fathers and even scholars who know history, the Book of Revelation was written by John on the Isle of Patmos where he was a political prisoner around the year 95 A.D. After the Emperor who had him arrested died, John was allowed to be released from the Island. Now someone said “why do you think he had to write it in symbolism?” Let me give you one example why he had to write it in symbolism. Because if you read Revelation chapter 17 and 18, it talks about a “Mystery Babylon,” a city ruling over the kings of the earth that’s going to be destroyed. John, in fact in the time of Jesus, when the Jews were speaking against Rome they always called it Babylon. They coded it. And the reason they coded it is any statement by a Jew against Rome or the Roman Empire was instant persecution, jail and death time. So God allowed John to veil it as Babylon so that no one who would be a Roman who would look at that scroll would keep that scroll and burn it. I mean think about this for a moment.

SID: Now, as most of you know, I know there’s going to be a settling of God’s glory that’s going to change the whole paradigm of planet Earth. But Perry just recently was teaching at a church and his family angel whispers, I understand in your, right-

PERRY: Right ear. Always the right—

SID: In your right ear, began teaching you about the glory and I have never heard some of the things that came out of your mouth. Tell me some of the revelation you have.

PERRY: Okay. Let me go through, explain the service. We were, I had the message already planned. We have a Holy Spirit gathering every Sunday night, all of our meetings, and we pray for people that want to receive the baptism and the spirit.

When I walked into the, it’s the Princeton Pike Church of God in Hamilton, anyone watching that was there will know what I’m talking about. And I walked over to my associate Robbie James, and every hair on my body stood straight up for no reason. I looked at Robbie, I said, “Robbie, it’s going to be different tonight because he’s here.” Robbie man, “Man, when you just said that,” he said, “Something walked right by me on the aisle, and all my hair stood up.”

Now, he never felt, he’d been with me, but he said, “I feel the atmosphere, but I’ve never felt what you talk about”-

SID: Right.

PERRY: Where when the angel walks, the hair on that side of your body stands up. Then if he walks on this side, and you, okay?

So, I had no notes. I had zero notes, and I said, God, you have something for me, so what it is? So, I started, I came off the platform. I said, I’m not preaching at the platform. I’m going to start talking. With no notes, not even a Bible open, I started getting downloads and the only way to describe this is if you were to take a laptop and plug the plug in here and hit a button and transfer what’s written into audible, I can’t describe it any other way.

But it’s always my right ear. In other words, I hear right through here. This stays totally blank, and I think it goes to the principle of Jesus is on the right hand of God, the angel appeared at the altar in Zacharias, the right side of the altar. There’s something about that. I don’t want to go into all the explanation there.

So I begin to talk about, and I want to share this very quickly. When Moses asked God to show him his glory, he’d already seen 10 plagues. He saw the Red Sea open. How much more glory do you want? Think about it. No, think about it. This guy has just tore the whole Egyptian empire up with God using miracles.

So, in Exodus, God says I can’t show you my face, but I will turn my back and you’ll see my hinder parts. Now, I believe the King James says hinder parts.

SID: Mm-hmm.

PERRY: That always confused me. So, okay, he saw the shoulder blades of God and that was the glory of God, and that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, because the face is where the glory is.

SID: Right.

PERRY: I looked up the Hebrew word, and it actually can mean, and I checked this out with some scholars, they said yeah, the way that word is, it can mean, and I’m going to transliterate this so we can understand it. I will show you something in the distance, or I will show you something about the future.

Now, get ready for this, because—

SID: That changes the whole perspective.

PERRY: It changes the whole perspective. So, in other words, God says I’m going to cover you, I’m going to veil you, I’m going to lift the veil off you and you’re going to see something about the future.

I believe that the Lord showed me, and folks, this is the abbreviated version. He’ll have the information on the whole thing, because this is abbreviated. Moses later comes off of that mountain with his face glowing. He’d been on that mountain forty days before, his face was not glowing. This experience caused him to glow. They viewed his face. Remember that?

SID: Right.

PERRY: Okay. Why was his face, what did he see, the glory? Yes. But what did he see? He went into the future. He went to the mount of transfiguration.

SID: Well, we know, it says he was there, but you are saying….

PERRY: He was there. He went in the future, he stepped into the future to that place where the glory of the Messiah was so on the messiah that it came on him.

SID: What God is saying is Moses stepped into the future. I’m wondering if many of your going to have experiences like that.

PERRY: Well, basically a vision that comes from the Lord is a vision takes you out into the dimension, and it’s really the glory dimension, because when Isaiah saw the Lord high and lifted at that point he talk about, he said the glory filled the temple.

SID: You’ve heard a lot here. Some of you it’s hard to even digest, but that you’ve not only heard, but you have felt a tug of the spirit of God. If you will, I touch a splash of the glory of God. It’s just came on you.

If you say I do not really know this Messiah of Israel, I really want to know him, you could have been in synagogue, in church, in a mosque, all your life but I don’t know him. Repeat this prayer and believe it to the best of your ability.

Home, studio audience, repeat after me. Dear God.

Audience: Dear God.

SID: I’m a sinner.

Audience: I’m a sinner.

SID: Against you and you alone have I sinned.

Audience: Against you and you alone have I sinned.

SID: And I’m so sorry.

Audience: And I’m so sorry.

SID: I believe.

Audience: I believe.

SID: The blood of Jesus.

Audience: The blood of Jesus.

SID: Washes away my sins.

Audience: Washes away my sins.

SID: And I am clean.

Audience: And I am clean.

SID: And now that I am clean.

Audience: And now that I am clean.

SID: I ask Jesus to come and live inside of me.

Audience: I ask Jesus to come and live inside of me.

SID: Become my lord.

Audience: Become my lord.

SID: Give me experiential knowledge of you.

Audience: Give me experiential knowledge of you.

SID: Amen.

Audience: Amen.

SID: See you at sidroth.org.

SID: Kerry, give me a one-sentence definition of redemption.

KERRY: To bring back to whatever God’s intentional purpose was. In other words, God doesn’t give up on us. He had a plan from the very foundation of when the Lamb of God was slain. So therefore, whatever the original intention of God is he redeems us or makes that possible for us.

SID: God spoke to you about redemption. Tell me exactly what he said.

KERRY: I was on the way to the office and I was just asking him, would you give me a nugget that I could share with the staff, who’s been working hard. And he told me that very phrase, “I’m going to give you something, a tool, that you’ll be able to apply to every problem you ever face and be able to solve it.” I wanted to pull over the side of the road and take notes because I thought, here’s the King of the Universe right here, thought he told me some mystery, you know. But what he said to me, “To shrink the problem you have to magnify the solution.” And he said too many people have been magnifying the problem and cannot hear the solution. Psalm 34 says, “O magnify the Lord with me.”

The word “magnify” means to make larger, to extend like the overshadowing. In Psalms 91, the shadow, overshadowing, “magnify” is the word “shadow” there. It actually means thoughts. So he says, “Magnify me. Let my thoughts, intentions, come over you and you shrink the problem.” So we tell people, you know, what the doctor said and how bad life is, and how bad my kids are, and they magnify the problem, in essence saying, but look what the devil has done. But when we magnify the Lord, I don’t deny the problem, I just deny the devil the right to use it against me, so I magnify the Lord with him, make him bigger than that.

SID: Now you talk about the power of worship.

KERRY: Yes. When David, in First Samuel 30, is inquiring of the Lord, it actually is a point of “enter into his gates with thanksgiving,” to be able to worship not because it was a great environment, with the music playing and everything was motivational to you—because here these men were talking about killing him. David enters into this place with the Lord and he begins to just allow it to come in up out his heart. Worship really begins from the Throne Room of God. Ezekiel 47 talks about this river flowing and the farther it gets from the threshold, it gets down and the deeper it gets, and he’s looking for people to step into it. So Hebrews 13 says, “Let us offer through Jesus the sacrifice of praise.” So he really is wanting to speak back through us and in doing this, in the revelation of worship, things are made known. There is understanding of who he is and then we can identify the things that have been lost generationally and lost in our life that we can go after.

SID: You told me about something that I have to tell you, excites me no end, going on, I believe it was in Dallas with millennials.

KERRY: Yes, these are millennials. I felt like the old guy there and they were looking around 20 and 30s, and they enter into this place of worship in such an intensity.

SID: How many would you say?

KERRY: Oh, there were at least 2000.

SID: Two thousand?

KERRY: Yes and that’s only one particular service. In a warehouse that is nondescript, wires hanging down, bulbs in the ceiling. There’s not all this fancy tile work and all that.

SID: It’s not the Golden Nugget.

KERRY: No it’s not, so they’re not entertaining. I saw women with babies strapped to their back and one to the front with her hands lifted up and they were not distracted. There was no nursery, no frills at all. We would say you’re not offering anything. The intensity and the worship and just the presence of God would be there for such an extended time. And out of the songs of the Lord, new songs started rising up in that environment.

SID: Can you picture if that is just a microcosm of what God is about ready to do all over the world. There is hope for the world. Stop magnifying the problems in the world and let’s magnify the Lord. You teach on spiritual weapons and my favorite is the power of the blood of Jesus.

KERRY: Yes.

SID: Talk to me about it.

KERRY: Well in the pursuing and overtaking, and recovering, I use four different weapons in there, and but the main one is the power of the blood. And the blood was what purchased the right of redemption. And so with that, we had, there’s a sound that comes out of that. We see in Genesis 4 where the blood of Abel that was spilled by Cain cries out from the earth. Blood has a sound, and in Exodus 12, “When I see the blood, the spirit of death passes over it.” So we carry the redemptive spirit inside of us that rejects everything that opposes the very nature of who we’re called to be and the blood of Jesus has a sound, and it is pushing back. We said, resist the devil, submit yourself to God and resist the devil. We resist him because we carry a sound inside of us that pushes back against the gates of hell. And the Bible even says, the word Jesus told Peter that, “I’m giving you these keys and the gates of hell won’t prevail,” and he uses the word “gates”, plural, meaning, but he’s not talking about the gate of Sheol down there. He uses the plural “gates”, which means anything that blocks the revelation of who Jesus is in you is a gate of hell.

SID: I’m going to tell you something. We are using so little of what God has given us.

KERRY: Yes, it’s true.

SID: What would happen if we use it all? I’ll tell you what would happen. You’d start experiencing Heaven on Earth. When we come back I want Kerry to share this amazing dream he had about Washington, D.C. and the Glory. I know it seems like the two don’t go together, but they do. We’ll be right back.