Sid Roth

Sid: Sid Roth with Something More and I’m here with Shane Wall on some of the prophecies you’ve had.  According to my notes you prophesied to an infant that he would be a genius and now he’s age 10 get this and has a full scholarship that has to blow you out of the water.

Shane: It really did.

Sid: Tell me about that.

Shane: I was managing an artist a gospel artist and he sang that Saturday night and I preached that Sunday morning.  And so the pastor of the church asked me to pray for their brand new infant baby boy their grandson. So I held the baby and I was just praying and then the Holy Spirit started speaking and I said “The Lord said that this child is a genius and will be a genius.” And so I prayed accordingly and handed the baby back and I through Facebook the grandfather he sent me the article the whole 9 yards said “Do you remember my grandson you prayed for him and you said that he would be a genius, there is a university he is so smart there is a university that says ‘Whenever you graduate high school if you choose to come to us you will get a full ride, a full scholarship if you choose us’” at age 10.

Sid: Shane why does there appear to be such a huge emphasis on understanding in the Bible I mean what 300 times?

Shane: Exactly.

Sid: That is if God says it once that should be enough.

Shane: (Laughing) It’s because and of course we mentioned Proverbs 4:7 “In all thy getting get understanding.”  Because understanding Sid is a super power all success is attained by understanding. Success in marriage, success in your workplace, success in your ministry, all success is attained by understanding. I usually tell people I want you to just think of somebody just think of anybody you consider successful. So I waited a couple of seconds and I say “I guarantee whoever you’re thinking about they are successful simply because of what they understand.” And everybody’s eyes get larger like “Oh my goodness they were thinking about maybe a doctor or a singer, a politician maybe, or some athlete of some actor, actress because of what they understand that is what that brings success. When you go to look for a job let’s say on an employment site you’ll see the title of the job everybody wants a title, they went the money, they want the fame, the fortune all of that but they’re missing something. So when you go on the site you see the title you see the salary you see all of the benefits you’d love it. But what is under that title? The job description the understanding. So if you get the understanding you can get the Title, you can get the benefits, you can get the salary. What am I saying? When you get understanding, understanding attracts success.

Sid: That’s what I was going to ask you “When we demonstrate God’s understanding we become a magnet for success.”

Shane: A magnet for success, everybody who is successful is because of something they understood first. If you didn’t put forth your football abilities you would not have attracted success. If you would not have the understanding for singing high notes very clearly you would not have attracted the success to your life whatever it is that you understand and understand well always attracts everything you ever need.  So get the…that is why it’s so important God puts so much emphasis on it because when you get understanding everything else it’s almost like saying “Everything you’re asking me for get understanding,  understanding already has it it’s a package deal.”  I mean when you get understanding you get the success.

Sid: You know what I’m hearing you say “The most people put God in a box of their logic and their formula and when God doesn’t conform to their formula they say “I guess God doesn’t love me.”

Shane: (Laughing) and they missing it you’re right God does love you He gave You His word.  When you give somebody your word on it you’re going to have to back it up and of course God’s word….and the Holy Spirit said to me “God is only responsible for one thing out of everything we hear and say He’s only responsible for one thing His word. If He doesn’t say it He’s not responsible for it.” So when we get God’s word on it, when we get that understanding everything else we want, everything we’re asking Him for we can get it through the understanding that He’s already given us that we put on the shelf “Oh this is just understanding now I’m waiting for the goodies, now I’m waiting for the blessings,” it’s all in the understanding every bit of it.

Sid: You call this “God’s ultimate secret to success in every area of your life.”

Shane: Every area of your life there is nothing else on planet earth or in any hemisphere or stratosphere that you can say “God uses this more than anything else to bring success it’s His ultimate secret to success.” I saw secret as you said at the beginning at the program you said “Never heard a message on understanding.”

Sid: Wow.

Shane: I friend of mine said I’ve been in 1000’s of services, I’ve been in over 60 counties with different church services I’ve never heard a message on understanding it’s a secret. Someone said “I think God just saved this message for you Shane I just think He just did.” And it’s a secret because everything we’ve gotten it was an understanding this said everything we get is from understanding. The clothes that we wear, the water that we drink everything comes out of understanding.  There has to be an understanding if there is to be success and we can get understanding because God has all of it and it’s freely given.  And the word of God Sid doesn’t even say “To ask.” Just get it as a matter of fact in the Psalms the Psalmist says “Give me understanding.”  It’s almost like commanding God “Give me understanding that I would keep your law. Yeah I shall observe it.  Give me understanding and I will keep Thy law, yeah I shall observe it with my whole heart.”  In other words, what I need is Your understanding I can’t keep your law without understanding, I cannot do what you call me to do without understanding.  You know that I know that I have a prophetic gift in me but I don’t understand how to use it, get understanding.

Sid: Okay clarify again what is the difference between wisdom and understanding.

Shane: Okay wisdom is information.  Of course knowledge is getting that information.  Wisdom is I have this information and I have some experience to go along with it. But understanding is revealed insight. God reveals the insight that we need for a particular situation for our gifting.  He reveals the insight that we need to receive and He wants us act on the information that He’s given to us by the knowledge. And then we have the experience but we don’t have that insight, we do not have the insight so we ask God for the understanding.

Sid: Alright I’m going to demonstrate this right now and then I’m going to draw on…make a demand on the anointing on you.

Shane: Praise God.

Sid: To demonstrate right now because I’ve heard this several times, there are people watching right now, or listening to us right at this moment and you have a pain in your neck. If you’ll just bend you’ll bend right out of that pain. There are also some people with problems in your jaw and in your teeth and God wants to heal you right this moment.  And problems with your fingers when you bend you have no problems anymore in…use His Hebrew name in Yeshua’s name in Jesus name.

Shane: Hallelujah.

Sid: What’s God showing you?

Shane: The Lord is saying to me that there is someone who is watching right now and as a matter of fact when Sid was giving those words of knowledge you put your hand it’s a lady you put your hand on your heart and you began to believe God…that’s right you began to believe God to touch you at that moment He saw you precious lady He saw you. And the Lord not only touched you but He has healed you.  As a matter of fact you’ll know it’s you by what I said but you’ve also been having an upset stomach no matter what you’ve been eating you’ve been having an upset stomach.  That goes in Yeshua’s name it is gone right this very moment just by the power of God.

Sid: You told me that God longs for us to have this understanding more than we even want it.

Shane: Exactly He does.

Sid: I mean how can we build His kingdom on earth if we’re doing it as Frank Sinatra said “Our way.”

Shane: Exactly building it our way we cannot and that’s the frustration in the soul of man. I know what God has for me. I know I’m supposed to be somebody but I don’t know how to get there. “Lord show me how to get there, No I’m going to give you the understanding of who you are once you know who you are then as I said earlier you can act on the revealed insight that God gives you through understanding. “Give me understanding.” And that’s exactly how we can get it from God “Father give me understanding” as you just said.  He wants us to have it much much much more than we want to so we say “God give me understanding for this situation.”  He has to because He commanded us to get it; so we go to Him for it He has to give it to us.  And it doesn’t force Him it is His joy.  Jesus said “Little children it is the Father’s pleasure to give you the Kingdom.” God wants us to have the understanding.

Sid: Let me ask you a very sensitive area has God given you any understanding about money?

Shane: Yes He has.  You know there was one point in time I said something to God I said “Lord I need money.” And He spoke back to me the Holy Spirit said “You don’t need money money needs you.” I said “Whoa!” And then He showed me…

Sid: Maybe that’s what I’m thinking you said it I’m thinking it.

Shane: Exactly I said “Whoa!” And I work at a credit union so I’ve seen stacks and stacks of cash.  So He said to me “Take 1 million dollars put it on a table what could that money do?” I said “Nothing.”  “Exactly you don’t need money money needs you.”

Sid: Hm.

Shane: So don’t go to God and say “I need money.” No money needs you to spend it, to invest it, to donate it.  Money needs you that’s the way God sees money so you have to have the understanding about money that God has.  Then when you go talk to Him about it concerning the understanding that He has about money then you can receive.  I received a miracle because of that.

Sid: What was the miracle?

Shane:  I was preaching and I told the saints I was talking about a faith. I said “You know I have a faith I’m going through something now this is early in my pastoral ministry and we had very few members. So I knew that none of them could even give me what I needed so I felt very comfortable in just sharing how behind I was on my mortgage.  And I didn’t give the amount but I said “I’m behind and I told the Lord yesterday “Father I don’t want this blessing not one second before you give it to me I don’t want to be out of sync with Your desire at all.”

Sid: Everything is timing in the kingdom.

Shane: Yes.

Sid: If you look at the feasts in the Bible it’s timing and it’s the whole first coming of the Messiah is shown to us, the whole return of the Messiah to earth in the Biblical feasts. So God set up this whole earth.  In fact eternity has no time.

Shane: Exactly.

Sid: But here we are stuck with something called time.  Okay so now you’re behind in your mortgage what happened?

Shane: Then when I told the saints I said “Listen I’m behind but I’m believing God I told Him I don’t want it 1 second before that He wants to give it to me so not a problem.  There was a guy who visited our Assembly and he asked if he could meet with me” I said “Okay.” And he’d been visiting quite awhile so I thought he now wanted to join but just wanted to talk to me about becoming a member. So he said “Can I come to your home?” And I was like “Okay.” And he did came to my house and he said “Well I heard you say that you were behind in your mortgage do you mind sharing with me the amount?” And so I said “Okay, I said its $5,000.”  He said “Whoa!” And I said “I know thank you for your concern but it is quite a bit.”  He said “Pastor Wall that is not why I said whoa, I said whoa because when you said that I went and I prayed and I asked God to bless you and God said to me “Why are you asking Me to bless him when you have the $5,000 that you can give him.”

Sid: (Laughing)

Shane: He said “I said whoa because God has never given me such specifics in prayer before.” So he went and literally brought 5,000 cash dollars to me I’ve never had that happen in my life.

Sid: As you explained it it was not…and you know a lot of ministers manipulate.

Shane: You’re right.

Sid: They don’t ask God let’s face it they manipulate that wasn’t in your heart.

Shane: Not at all.

Sid: You were just explaining.

Shane: Yeah that’s all that I was doing this man I didn’t even know him and he just came in just regular clothing.  I wasn’t trying to make a plea God spoke to him.  And that was the proof that that was not manipulation or God would not have spoken to him and given him the specifics.  He said “That’s exactly what God said.”  So he left my house and he called and said “Can I come back?” And in a small brown paper bag he brought it.  And so I kind of questioned him I said “You just have cash laying around on a Saturday?  He said “This is just what I do my mom did it we just like to keep our money with us.” And we said “Okay, hey praise God glory to God for it.” And that came for me saying to the Lord “I don’t want it one second before You give it me you’re understanding is what I’m resting on.” Simple just that simple.

Sid: …You know you told me when I talked to you on the phone yesterday that God had shown you something our ministry what did He show you?

Shane: The Lord said concerning “Messianic Vision” that He is expanding, He is opening doors.  It’s because the reason why people watch and will be watching “Something More” and listening to the Podcast and the radio and “It’s Supernatural” is because you are used by God to give people the understanding that they need to get.  That is why they constantly watch, they constantly listen because they’re getting understanding.

Sid: So you said “Understanding attracts success.

Shane: Success.

Sid: And that’s why this ministry is…

Shane: Sucessful.

Sid: It’s amazing.

Shane: It’s going to grow.

Sid: Do you know that we don’t owe any one anything.

Shane: Glory to God (Laughing).

Sid: And you haven’t had a walk through our facility its state of the art.

Shane: Wow.

Sid: That means that after the expenses, the TV time and things like that…

Shane: Yes.

Sid: Everything is poured into reaching Jewish people with the gospel.

Shane: That is remarkable you have a heart. That is the other thing the Lord told me “Sid has a heart, he has My heart.  He wants the understanding for himself so he seeks it, he gets it and he gives it to others.”

Sid: You must be talking from God because you’re reading my mail.

Shane: (Laughing)

Sid: You see I am not just trying to do this for you I do this for every guest I try to understand what they’re doing so that I can do the same that their doing.

Shane: Of course.

Sid: And guess what I’ve been doing it and guess what many of you have been doing it.

Shane: Amen (Laughing) and they are getting the success because they’re getting the understanding. So glory be to God for Messianic Vision for releasing the understanding that people need to get.  I shudder to think what would be happening in the world if there was no Messianic Vision. If you did not seek God for the Supernatural, if you did not reach out to those who God is using and say “Come teach me and let’s teach the world so that they can get the understanding; and when they get it they will be successful.” They have been praying for people, nothing has been happening, they’ve been trying to operate in the gifts, nothing has been happening but let’s give them the understanding. And with all their getting they get the understanding, success is immediately attracted to the understanding because God revealed it. And whatever God reveals He will always back it up.