Sid Roth

Sid: I’ll tell you something if you are not red hot for the Messiah you are not going to make it with what’s about to happen on the late great planet earth. I have in the office John McTernan he’s a retired Treasury Agent he’s with Treasury 26 years.  Co-founder of an organization called “Cops for Christ.” Author of a brand new book that is literally is going to affect the destiny of the United States of America and even more important your destiny.  The book is called “Israel the Blessing or the Curse.” On yesterdays broadcast we found out that John has documented that within 24 hours sometimes even immediately when the United States takes an anti-Jewish or anti-Israel position within 24 hours there is a judgment that hits America of major consequence.  John if you would give another example of this.

John: I sure will Sid the greatest natural disaster ever to hit the United States was Hurricane Andrew in August of 1992. To this day that remains the greatest natural disaster; now 9/11 has surpassed it be the total amount of damage but I don’t consider 9/11 a natural disaster.

Sid: Of course.

John: Alright well I’m showing you front page New York Times reporting the storm.  Over here you see Hurricane Andrew front page. In the middle notice what is in the middle of the New York Times Sid. “Israel offers plan for Arabs to rule in occupied lands” and next to it “Bush’s gains nearly evaporate in latest poll.” So the entire front page of the New York Times is about President Bush, Sr. now what this article here Sid has to do with the Madrid Peace Process which we discussed yesterday was…

Sid: Land for peace.

John: Land for peace was transferred from Madrid, Spain to the United States and even Washington.  At the very time they were meeting in Washington Hurricane Andrew slammed into the United States and was the greatest up to this time the greatest natural disaster we’ve ever had literally as on our soil. We were discussing or we were in the middle of let’s say in the middle of it a mediator in this land for peace. And the land is covenant land that God has given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob by covenant, an everlasting covenant, we got into the middle of that and we suffered at that exact time. Sid not hours before, not hours later or days before or days later at that exact time we were suffering the greatest natural disaster ever to hit America. And the other article is the man that initiated the peace process the Madrid peace process.  He had a after the…

Sid: President Bush Sr.

John: I refer to him as President Bush, Sr.  He had a 90% rating in the polls after Desert Storm. He initiated the Madrid Peace Process in October of 1991 about a year later his popularity had plummeted. The New York Times and the newspapers picked up that the exact time that the Madrid Peace Process came here he was collapsing in the polls and apparent he wasn’t going to be elected.  I personally believe, my personally believe that God removed him from office because of the Madrid Peace Process.

Sid: And look at the judgment this country had because he was removed look who became President. Oi!

John: Oh you can see His judgment upon judgment it’s like dominoes falling.

Sid: Hmm.

John: But there it is Sid you can see it you know when God does things it is not in page 8 in size 10 print and page 42 in size 6 print its front page national newspaper that goes all over the country the most influential paper probably right the New York Times and the Washington Post.  And probably you can look at the Washington Post and see the same thing. There it is right there the greatest natural disaster, the Madrid Peace Process meeting on our soil for the first time and the man that initiated the Madrid Peace Process collapsing in the polls.

Sid: Well you have 100’s of these examples. I’m curious within 24 hours there’s a horrible consequence to America have there been any exceptions? Have you found any major acts of anti-Israel by the US that hasn’t had a serious judgment?

John: Sid I can say this that every time Yasser Arafat has come here. Now over the covenant land there is one time he came he was invited to some religious meeting but every time he’s come every time Sid over the covenant land we’ve suffered a disaster that very day every single time. All documented in my book; we’ve had stock market crashes, we’ve had the worst week in the stock market in the NASDAQ was on that very day surrounding it. We’ve had massive tornadoes that have scooped up whole towns, hurricanes hitting on that day, incredible flooding. And then you’ll see headlines in the newspaper “President meeting with Arafat massive flooding in Texas; President declares Texas a disaster area” every time Sid.  And the Lewinski’s scandal one of the ugliest, nastiest scandals we ever had Yasser Arafat was literally waiting to meet with the President of the United States when that scandal broke in January there of 1998. And they had to postpone, they had to cut short Arafat’s meeting because the President was distracted with it trying to get a handle on the scandal.  He was literally meeting with Arafat when that scandal broke and then Sid in December the President to escape the impeachment pressure went to Israel he met with Arafat in Gaza at the exact time he was being impeached. The exact time the house gave the Articles of Impeachment the President was meeting with Arafat in Israel.  Isn’t that amazing?

Sid: You know Mishpochah it’s absolutely phenomenal within 24 hours every time the United States does something disastrous to Israel the United States suffers a consequence. What is reason spiritually that this is going on, give me a little bit from your thoughts?

John: Well Sid in Genesis 12 verse 3 the scriptures say speaking of Abraham now, God said “I will bless them that bless thee and I will curse them that curse thee and in thee all the families of the earth shall be blessed.  And that’s where the title of the book comes from “Israel the Blessing or the Curse.” And so what happens is when we bring Arafat here for example we are bringing judgment upon us literally. Because that man is a terrorist from the beginning; his whole desire he’ll say one thing in English but then when he’s talking to Muslims it’s the destruction of Israel. His whole goal seems to be the destruction of Israel to kill Jews. And when we bring that man on our soil the reaction from God is a hand of protection is lifted and awesome judgments hit.

Sid: You know one of my favorite scriptures that states the covenant promises that’s almost a summary is the 105 Psalm.  John why don’t you read Psalm 105 verse 8 – 11.

John: Okay Sid I have my Bible open to it.  “He hath remembered His covenant forever the word which he commanded to a thousand generations which covenant He made with Abraham in his oath to Isaac and confirmed his same unto Jacob for a law to Israel and a everlasting covenant saying unto thee I will give the land of Canaan the lot of your inheritance.” But it says it all doesn’t it Sid?

Sid: And I was jotting down as you were saying it number 1 it says that “Covenant having to do with the land of Israel goes to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.  For number 1: It’s everlasting, number 2: it’s forever and number 3: it’s for a thousand generations. I mean God says it 3 times in three different ways.

John: Exactly.

Sid: It’s got to be important.

John: Exactly Sid it’s so clear and the problem is the lack of teaching, unbelief, the church has not stood on the importance of this covenant. What’s important to God should be important to the church Sid.

Sid: You know we talk about Genesis 12:3 God says “I’ll bless those who bless the Jewish people and I’ll curse those that curse them.” We’ve been focusing on the cursing what would happen to the church, I mean the true church of the Messiah; what would happen to the true church if we hung tough for Israel and the covenant right for the Jewish people to have the land of Israel?

John: Well Sid I believe God would pour everything into the church that we would need to touch the heart of his physical seed Israel there would be an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, there would be like blessings and joy that the Jewish people would see and that they would want. I mean that’s what God has called the church, one of the things He has called the church to be is to be so full of the Messiah that we would make Israel jealous and they would see this and there would be financial blessing.  Everything would be just pour on us as we stood for His everlasting covenant.

Sid: You know I had this thought as everyone knows Argentina has gone through it economically and every way possible. And yet Argentina has the longest standing revival that is still currently going on in history of any country and the pastors are scratching their head. And they’re saying with all of this revival why has out dollar lost so much value? Why are we in such economic turmoil, why are we in such turmoil with revival?  And yet as many people know Argentina was a safe haven for the Nazis, a lot of the gold the Nazis took with them came from the teeth of the Jewish people that they murdered. And I believe that if there is a missing ingredient for the revival in Argentina it’s called Genesis 12:3. I mean if everything’s focusing in towards Israel and return of the Messiah to Israel and the return of the Jewish people to Israel and the glorious church coming on the scene that has to be the major ingredient that’s missing.

John: Sid as you mentioned it just sort of came out of this interview, the first thing that hit my mind when you said Argentina was like anti-Semitic you know supporting the Nazis that’s the first thing that kind of hits my mind. I don’t think of revival going there I think of that past and how Argentina was a safe haven for the Nazis and all of that. And so there is a Spirit there that has to be dealt with in Argentina.

Sid: I have to now balance things, what about the Palestinians; what about the fact that they claim that they own that land they have the right to that land they were pushed out of that. What about all of the violence going on; what should a Christians position be in reference to the Palestinians, I mean God loves the Palestinians as much as He loves the Jews and that’s a fact?

John: Well Sid the best the church has to do in this particular junction is to know some history.

Sid: Well you know we don’t have the time Mishpocah and I apologize and on tomorrow broadcast I’m going to ask John to teach from his knew book “Israel the Blessing or the Curse.”  Because the history will amazing you your not getting this from the press it’s totally opposite from what you’re getting from the press and I think it’ll help you understand what is really going on in the Middle East.

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is certainly hot for the Messiah his name is Dr. Dell Sanchez and I’m talking to him about his book “The Last Exodus.”  This book includes a listing of 6,000 Spanish names that have Jewish blood, and it is estimated Netanyahu the former Prime Minister’s father estimates there are approximately 60 million Sephardic or Spanish Jews, scattered throughout the world. Even the Jerusalem Post says there’s as many as 20 million Spanish or Sephardic Jews throughout the world. And most of them don’t even know that they’re Jewish. Dell…

Dell: Yes.

Sid: …tell me about how you found out and the clues that you even had before you knew in your mind about the family secret.

Dell: Oh! My goodness I had all my life felt that there was something mysterious about our family with relationship to the Jew, the Jewish people and Israel.  I…

Sid: Did you have a love for the Jewish people in Israel?

Dell: I’ve always had a tremendously intense love for the Jewish people in Israel.

Sid: I find a lot of people have this love and then they find out a family secret so what happened to you?

Dell: Well but my father was 77 years of age he’s the baby of the family a big Spanish family Sanchez is the name.  And one day he approaches me…now my dad is the clown of the home as I said “He’s a baby he was 77.”  And his nieces that older than I am because he’s the youngest there did uncover the secret to him and said “Have you heard Theo (Uncle) that this and this.” And my dad didn’t know, all of his older brothers and sisters knew the secret but they kept it from my father.  And so then my father after he told me about the stories, the oral history of what he knew, and linking together the different pieces of our heritage from my father, grandfather Delfino from Matamoros, Mexico. My grandmother Juanita from Monterrey, Mexico a huge land grant that they had that they lost and even when the murdered one of my uncles when he was trying to retake the family property I thought “Wait a minute there’s something here.”  I thought it was too good to be true the true of our identity was the Jewish people in Israel because I’ve always had this passion, this love intense way more than identity.  So when I dove into this Sid and I began to dig because I hold a PhD, I love to research, I love to study, I love to write. And so I dug with a passion passionately. I went from library to library chronicles, archives, I went to Spain, took a few trips to Israel in search of our roots. I went up and down the streets and corridors of Israel interviewing people asking them “Hablas español”  “Do you speak Spanish?” Because I didn’t want to go by just some hearsay of what my father had been told by his family I wanted the truth.  I discovered alone in Israel today there’s about a million Spanish speaking Jews that have been living there that made Aliyah already.

Sid: In Israel there are about a million, I had no idea.

Dell: Yes Sir Sid there about a million and they are coming over still I mean they come Aliyah many of them are working there.

Sid: This has got to be the devils worst nightmare!

Dell: Oh yes (laughing). With our people are in the northern part and the central, in Jerusalem, in the Negev predominately, they’re coming in from all across the United…from the Americas.

Sid: So tell me what you found out about your grandfather.

Dell: Well I discovered that my grandfather; see what happened is a tradition of a Spanish Jew who is that you have to stay strong or Catholic. If you were not a devout Catholic you were going to suffer very intensively. I mean you would suffer persecutions, confiscations, tortures; you would suffer a breach of estate back in the older days.

Sid: You know what it sounds like although it’s unknown to most people of this sad history it sounds very equivalent to what happened to the blacks in America.

Dell: Yes, yeah.

Sid: Just because they weren’t white.

Dell: Exactly.

Sid: It sounds very very parallel.

Dell: Yes, yes. Well what happened was see there was a tradition among the Sephardic family that you would take your first born son and offer him into the Catholic convent or monastery as a first fruit so that you would appease the powers of religion of the Christian Catholic Church.   So sure enough they put my grandfather Delfino the first, I’m the third by the way they call me Dell and they put him in this Catholic convent and he kept escaping, and they kept retrieving him and whipping him and he would escape and for various reasons and they would bring him back until he finally decided that he had to escape and go far enough across the Rio Grande River as many of us Hispanics call it Rio Bravo, which means a very brave and almost vicious river. And he came across into Texas and winds up marrying a young lady Juanita, my grandmother.  Who themselves had fled the area of Monterrey which happens to be the crown jewel of Nuevo Reino de León of the new kingdom of Leon meaning lion.  And originally it used to be the New Kingdom of the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

Sid: Hmm.

Dell: But they dropped that because for obvious reasons the persecution.  So Monterrey is the State of Nuevo Leon as the New Leon or the new Lion.  So grandma and all of her family had to escape and come across the Rio Grande to just survive.  And that’s where one of my uncles kept saying “We need to retrieve the land that is ours it was a land grant it was a huge land grant plum in the middle of a humungous land grant that King Philip II had give to an explorer from Spain that was given a land grant that you measured in miles rather in acres.  It was equivalent to about 320,000 square miles that was give to Don Weese and over 200 Sephardic families from Spain and Portugal. Well plum in the middle of all of that my grandmother’s family Elisandros had this big land grant which went that is consistent with all of the sub-land grants that Don Weese gave to many of the people that were passengers with him and descendants of his people.  So this family secret has just been unfolding…

Sid: But the thing that is so amazing is what your grandfather found out about the background of his father.

Dell: Exactly.  Well he discovered you see, well he finally told the family that of course before he died the year I never met Grandpa Delfino because in ’43 I was born and that’s the year that he passed away. But you see his father was the high ranking Mexican official in the Mexican Army, he was an officer.  But that was a secret as well as to his actual Jewish identity. These secrets are just emerging and I just came back from Denver, Colorado from doing a conference on Sephardim and everywhere I go I mean rather it be Latinos or Latin America, or even Jews that are living in Israel right now, when I allude to certain words, terms, clichés, practices, read books etcetera, they all just brighten up they just light up because they relate to them because they heard them, they’ve seen them, they’ve done them.

Sid: Tell me one.

Dell: There’s so many rituals and of course I don’t agree with a lot of the rituals okay because they were not necessarily Biblical, they were not necessary spiritually.  But one ritual for example was that after the death of a loved one they would cover the mirrors so we just covered the mirrors.

Sid: And that’s what we do in Judaism today in traditional Judaism.

Dell: Well it’s amazing wow yes Sir another ritual was that upon a new babies first bath put the baby into the bath water that we would throw a coin into the bathtub into the baby bathtub. And on and on and on many rituals even dietary rituals and as to how do you test a knife before you use it.

Sid: Many of these rituals were also traditional Jewish rituals is what you’re saying.

Dell: Yes exactly, yes yes.

Sid: Now I promised our Mishpochah that we would pick up where we left off yesterday but this was so fascinating to me and we were talking about how the Jews got from Israel to Spain and how significant they were in Spanish history.

Dell: Oh my Lord I was at awe when I first found out from the word of God from the book of Chronicles, the book of Kings that King Solomon used to send Jews once every 3 years in a fleet of ships not a ship but a fleet he had partnered with King Hiram of the Tunisian Empire and they would send a fleet of ships back and forth to Tarshish. Well Tarshish is known as a land of yellow jasper. Well what we’re they retrieving from Tarshish, which is today Spain, they were bringing back gold and silver and exotic animals and food okay. Another scripture also the same books relate to the fact that King Solomon had a port they were building ships in what is now known as Eilat and they would navigate. They would navigate southward all the way down beneath the continent of Africa come in the western side of Spain. And of course we know about the Strait of Gibraltar crossing across from one sea to the other so that’s we’re talking about 900 and some odd before Messiah that they were already exporting and importing from Tarshish to Spain.

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to fulfill their destiny in God. That’s why I’m so excited about this week my guest by way of telephone in his office in Baltimore, Maryland is John Caver. And God has commissioned John to put together archives of the greatest men and women of God that have moved in the miraculous power because there’s a generation, that’s what the Lord told him; there’s a generation that is alive today that knows nothing about the miracle working power of God. And you know how did Jesus train people? They became disciples, learners they just studied Him they followed Him they, they watched Him observed Him.  But who can we watch and observe to learn about these great miracle ministries and so that’s why John Carver has put this together…Now John on yesterday’s broadcast we promised to… I asked you why there aren’t people today walking at this level of anointing and this level of power? And you said “Well there’s a price to pay.” What is the price that has to be paid?

John: Well in my evaluation from studying and looking around the price is simply dying to ourselves. What would mean dying to me would not mean dying to you.  And now I know that sounds religious but let me back up again where it says in Romans it says to be “Now conformed to this world” and that means selfishness. And a lot of people just do not know how to wait on God they love the exposure and they love ministering under the anointing and the power of God but that’s only a small part of what it is to actually minister that way in the anointing and the power.  Many times a lot of ministers get wrapped up in the gifts and the anointing and the power and the exposure and the success and they fail to continue walking in their dedication that they once had with God.

Sid: So therefore they don’t really fulfill the great call they had.

John: That’s correct, that’s correct. Not long ago I did an interview with Freda Lindsey, Miss Freda Lindsey, of Christ for the nations.  And without me actually asking her this that’s what I wanted to ask her is “Why these men didn’t continue in the power and the anointing that they first started out in?”  And the answer came was this was that “They never continued doing what they did there was a price to pay to get there and then once you get there you have to keep paying that price.”

Sid: Give me some examples of what the price was to get there.

John: Well for one thing it’s called in AA Allen his book called “The Price of God’s Miracle Working Power.” In that book he deals with 11 things that God dealt with him about. Now if it be me there might be some other things that God would deal about that wouldn’t be with AA Allen.  For one of the things that let us say he used pride for one of them.

• Pride of place
• Pride of race
• Pride of position in the church and so on.

And so it’s called character imperfections. And what happens is if you don’t get control over self and God begins to lose you then you become a casualty.  And we’ve seen people who’ve had success in the last couple of decades who become causalities because of the power of the success that they’ve gotten.

Sid: And how about all of the ones that unfortunately end up backsliding.

John: That’s what I’m talking about.  It’s incredible the amount of…when…the church needs to learn to walk in that anointing that God calls them into and many times we don’t walk in the anointing that God’s calls us.  It’s like King Uzziah he wasn’t satisfied being a king he had to be part of the priesthood and offer the sacrifice. The Lord caused him to have leprosy and leprosy spiritually is an outcast. So therefore we’ve got a lot of outcast ministries today and Christians because they’re not walking in the anointing that God called them to walk in and they won’t continue to pay the price. Now AA Allen in that book “The Price of God’s Miracle Working Power” God said that these are the things that are standing between Me and you and the miracles.  Allen was praying “How come I don’t have the miracles in my ministry? And God said “These are the 11 things or 13 things that are standing between you and the power.  And there’s a lot of things and it’s not dos and don’ts it’s not in clothesline preaching type thing but it’s in our walk and our consecration to Christ and what He’s called us to do. One of the most important things that you can find out is what God… once you’re saved what He has called you for. And one of the things that I tell people all the time especially I get calls probably a week doesn’t go by that I get calls from all over the world literally and some of them are asking a question “Well how do I get there?” Well the first thing you’ve got to know is what God called you for. There’s no sense in my studying for me to be a dentist when God’s called me to be a lawyer.  And getting in your proper place in the body of Christ is the most important thing that you can do. Allen was running from it, Branham was running from it, Coe was so eager that it was just like he’s another story all together.

Sid: You know we didn’t touch much on him tell us a little bit about Jack Coe.

John: Well during World War II Jack Coe was…he joined the Army and he wanted to win souls. So he was just so zealous for God that he just went from place to place from one camp to the next camp because they didn’t know what to do with the guy.  And I mean when you’ve got somebody that’s like a boiling pot of water that’s just bubbling over and that’s what it means in the Old Testament. A prophet is one who bubbles over with the anointing. Well he was bubbling with so much of God’s grace and power that the army system didn’t know what to do with him.  Unlike the other 2 men that I mentioned Braham and Allen they literally struggled religiously they had comfort zones and I think that’s what’s wrong with America we’re comfortable and we don’t want to sacrifice in order to do what God wants us to do. Reproach is one of them you got to figure Braham was a Baptist, Allen was an Assembly of God and where God were taking them they were laughing at some of the things that were taking place in that day.  So were scorning it Allen scorned it and he said “This is not God.” And he had already had the vision and so that shows the unbelief that was in his heart. Each person is an individual has their own indigenous call, work that they’ve got to do and God deals with each person along these lines.  Where here you got Coe he was just crazy he went after it with such an intensity that the considered him mad…

Sid: Give me an example.

John: Well I knew his wife she’s passed away about a year or so ago and from my dealings with her I did several interviews with her. He just had the kind of…if God told him to do something it didn’t make any difference who was against it you know if the whole United States would have rose up and said “Jack Coe you’re not going to put a tent up here,” he put it up any way. He just…he just knew…

Sid: Tenacity.

John: Yeah he had tenacity I guess that’s a pretty strong word.  He had dangerous faith that’s a good word dangerous. And he was a dangerous (Laughing) to the powers of darkness it didn’t make any difference to him.  And I’ve viewed over 12 hours of films of Jack Coe.

Sid: Is there one miracle that comes to mind of the miracles you saw on these films?

John: Jack Coe reached up and prayed for a woman who had cancer on her face and he picked it off her face.

Sid: That takes chutzpah, courage.

John: Man I tell you that takes faith and I’ve seen tumors disappear under his arms on film it’s on this video he just had incredible faith! I don’t know how to explain to you except it was out of the ordinary, I mean it’s not just every day walk in faith.

Sid: Where did fasting fit in with these men?

John: Well it was obvious that Jack Coe didn’t fast very much.  (Laughing)

Sid: (Laughing) Well some people thought that fast they throw their metabolism off and that’s why they’re so fat.

John:  Coe didn’t believe in it…now that’s only here say his son told me that he said…

Sid: Well he’s a man after my own heart…oh I’m just teasing (Laughing.)

John: Well when the guys fast I’m going to eat and enjoy my life.  But he was a man that just enjoyed meals. Now my brother literally stayed at AA Allen’s house while he and his wife were waiting for his apartment to open up for him there at Miracle Valley when he worked for Allen. And Allen would fast, Allen was a man who fasted all the time and he would not only fast but he would put meals for ministers that came in from all over the world.

Sid: When he would fast would it be all food and just water or.

John: He’s a coffee drinker from what I understand and yeah…I don’t…he drank a lot of coffee and that’s through several different people who told me that it was very strong coffee so…

Sid: How long would he fast?

John: Well he would go for weeks at a time.

Sid: And he really believed that that would get him closer to the Lord?

John: No two ways about it yeah, no two ways about it Allen was a man who consecrated his life to God and consequently he paid a price for it.  I mean you just don’t…he was totally wore out most folks don’t understand that about that man but he was totally wore out. You figure from 1950 to 1970 twenty solid years every month he had that tent in a major metropolitan city every month. And then in between he had meetings in auditoriums that’s 12 times a year. And some of the earlier meetings would go for 12 weeks and Allen would be up early in the morning doing interviews with people. He would be there and he had 3 services a day and he would be in every service plus the one of his own at night.

Sid: So Allen just listening to what you’re saying didn’t have a whole lot of time for studying the Bible and praying.

John: Oh no he prayed, he was a praying man hearing…I interviewed his tent manager his name was Jimmy and different people who worked for him and they would hear him 3 and 4 in the morning. Now I can’t speak for other people but when I get done with service at night I can’t sleep either so I know what it is to go to 1, 2 or 3 in the morning.

Sid: Did these people pray mostly in tongues or do you not know?

John: They prayed with groaning and utterances that they themselves didn’t even understand and I’ve been around folks like that and I understand that. I don’t know if…

Sid: It was almost like a travailing the Spirit.

John: It’s like a travailing and most of that kind of ministry is a travailing it really is because you’re battling the forces of darkness.

Sid: I’m sorry John we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.

Sid:  My guest is sure red hot for the Messiah Senior Pastor at Bethel Family Worship Center in Durham, North Carolina.  All of this week we’ve been finding out how God has been molding the man to help set the captives free.  But George God uses you in prophecy for instance what is He showing you about what’s going on in the stock market?

George:  He showed me in the beginning of the year and I was sharing with our congregation how He showed me it’s on a rollercoaster the top of the rollercoaster it dropped.  It looped and it did it’s second drop and then mysteriously and miraculously I’m still on the rollercoaster but we’re going over as it were speed bumps just very very small little bumps that would just bounce us but nothing that would drop us or nothing that would take us up too high.  And the Spirit of the Lord said “This is our economy.” We have seen the first drop I think another one is about to come and then release us in the next few years to these small speed bumps in our economy. I think in the listening audience and those who will hear this program begin to be great stewards over their finances, honor God with their substance buy that which they need but stay in the growth of the economy, but also put some away for a rainy day and God will sustain us through the hard times.

Sid:  What has the Lord shown you about the United States and Israel?

George:  I had another dream and in the dream I saw National preachers of all different nationalities blacks, Hispanics, whites, Jewish or what have you preachers of the gospel and they had blindfolds on. And there was a voice in the dream that says “Remove the blindfolds” and when the blindfolds were removed off of our eyes we stood in front of different religions.  There were all different types of religions Islam and there were Krishna Unification Church and all different types of all religions and they had guns putted at us and they released those triggers and the bullets went into us but we didn’t fall. I think there’s going to a showdown between the false religion and true religion. and the Lord has revealed that to me and it’s very important that we in the body of Christ begin to discern and understand the time in which we live in.

Sid:  Specifically though has the Lord shown you anything between the relationship between the United States of America and Israel?

George:  I think this coalition that we brought together and I say this prophetically under the unctionizing of the Holy Spirit. The coalition that we brought together the Arab nations and these other nations who have come together to stamp out terrorism and to go after Bin Laden his terrorist cells I believe that something will spark in the months to come that will make these nations including the United States of America who has been a friend and a protector of Israel to rethink their protection of it and maybe even turn on them for a moment I heavily feel that. That that will spark the beginning of the end as we know it.

Sid:  How close are we to the return of the Messiah?

George:   I don’t really know I’m not a…I also say this to people that I’m not a prophet but the things that I see come out of the heart of God so I’m not…I trust in Him the things He showed me they come to past I don’t have a calendar I don’t have a date on it but I will say that we’re closer now than we we’ve ever been. And as you know that’s the little oust to get out of the question but I think we are extremely close but I don’t want to get into dates.

Sid:  Are we going to see a great revival in America?

George:  It has begun.

Sid:  Do you have any insight as to what will be some of the ingredients?

George:  Well there will be a…what is going to come I believe the next move of God is going to take place with the youth with our young people. They are very fed up they will take the message.

Sid:  Listen there’s a lot of adult Christians that are fed up with how religious the church has become.

George:  (Laughing) Amen.  But I believe it’s going to be…the next move is going to be with our young people.  The old men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions. We’re going to God pour out of His Spirit on all flesh and we’re going to see our sons and our daughters literally prophecy and I believe that’s going to happen and take the message the street. But we’re going to see a glass fall of false religions in our society and the message of souls and salvation.  And the prayers for Israel we’re going to see the intercession for Israel come back through the church.

Sid:   What’s going to happen to the United States of America if we go against Israel?

George:  We’re going to fall.

Sid:  What’s going to happen to churches that go against Israel?

George:  Well the same thing that’s been happening to them they don’t prosper they don’t prosper…

Sid:  How about the reverse what’s going to happen with the United States of America if we stand tall and strong with the nations Israel?

George:  And I answer the same way what’s been happening to America. We on 9/11 2001 when those planes turned into missiles and went into the World Trade Centers people were devastated. But it was because America’s shielding of Israel that we didn’t see the full devastation of the plans that took place on that particular day.  Because it was not only a set for a plane directed at the White House or the Pentagon or Camp David all different types of plans were to happen that day. I believe it was the plan of the Almighty God that would allow the sucker punch to go through to collapse the buildings to get us to wake up to start us to pray to make us aware of the time that we’re living in.  But we didn’t see the complete devastation.

Sid:  By the way a lot of people aren’t aware of this but there were plans… and the United States was ready to release before the United Nations a plan to partition Israel set up a Palestinian state. And this happened this plan was solved because of what happened at the World Trade Center and many people feel that this was what triggered the horrible devastation there.

George:  Yeah I believe that.

Sid:  You had a dream that doing this show almost a month in advance on October 26^th but you had a dream about water; tell me about that reoccurring dream.

George:  I’d been having a reoccurring dream that I’m standing at the top of a mountain which I believe is the Continental Divide where the waters separated between the Pacific and the Atlantic Ocean. I’m on the America side of the Panama; I’m on the American side of the Niagara Falls.  I was at the Keyser Falls at the top overlooking the American Embassy.  And in each dream the still clear water turns green, green slimy green an algae green with a little smell to it.  I believe the Lord speaking to us that the enemy will try to attack our water supply; biological warfare that we have been experiencing is just a little warning to prepare us for the onslaught of the terrorist attacks. And the most frightening thing about this whole new war to stamp out terrorism is this one thing. In the movie Poltergeist this little girl stands in front of the television and she says “They’re here.” Well that’s our problem those that will do this don’t have to come from Iraq or Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan they’re already situated here.

Sid:  So what should a true born again believer do…

George:  Pray.

Sid:  …in the midst of all of the turmoil that will be coming?

George:  Pray and seek the face of God at a brand new level pray for the peace of Israel, pray for our leaders and that’s what God commands us to do. And the Bible teaches us solid solid principles that “These signs shall follow them that believe in My name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak with new tongues and if they eat any deadly thing it shall not harm them.” And I believe the scriptures and I stand on the word. I wrote this book “Weapons for Warriors” you renamed it.

Sid:  Co-named it “Armed and Dangerous.”

George:  “Armed and dangerous” it’s time for the believers to arm themselves with the proper weapons for our warfare. The Bible says “For our weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of every stronghold.” This is the time for us to engage in spiritual warfare with the proper tools to put the devil in his place.

Sid:  Will there be an increase in miracles, and increase in creative miracles?

George:  Absolutely, just one moment we will see the miracles of the Bible days of the last shall be first and the first shall be last. The things, the way that the Lord started this off that’s the way we’re going out. We’re not going out with a fizzle we’re going out with a bang! We’re going to see men and woman of God the anointing of the Lord come upon them and they speak the word and dead people get up after falling dead; we’re going to see limbs grow back on.

Sid:  But your burden is that many that aren’t listening aren’t free enough to move in this that’s why you wrote the book “Weapons for Warriors.”

George:  That is correct.