Sid Roth

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah but this is ridiculous Mishpocha Heidi is… I don’t think she’s red hot I think she’s white hot, that’s hotter than red hot. Anyway I caught up with Heidi and Rolland Baker in Toronto they have a wonderful ministry in Mozambique, Africa. On yesterday’s broadcast we found out in 1997 Heidi, who has PhD, was pinned to the floor in Toronto, Canada pinned to the floor by the kavod, that’s the manifest presence. One of the definitions of the word is heaviness of God. Literally pinned her to the floor for several days; she was just totally…how do you describe totally immobile, is that right Heidi?

Heidi: I was incapacitated (laughing).

Sid: But the thing that is so wonderful is the fruit that has come from this. Today you have how many orphans are you taking care of?

Heidi: Several thousand orphans and our church pastors are beginning to take 10 each.

Sid: You said there were a couple thousand churches but you think it’s up close to 3000 now that have started under your ministry in the last few years?

Heidi: Over 3000 now.

Sid: If someone had told you 10 years ago “Heidi you’ll be feeding this many people and you’ll have to start all these churches.” Would you have believed it?

Heidi: I would have been quite shocked.

Sid: I’m sure or if someone would have you told you about your style of preaching and how it would change.

Heidi: (Laughing) I wouldn’t have believed them.

Sid: So for those that are listening for the first time and those that are… I want you to get a little more graphic. Let’s take you to 1997 the first time you had this major encounter with the Lord when you were pinned to the ground. What did He say to you and what did you see?

Heidi: Well the first time as I was sharing a bit yesterday I saw Jesus and I saw His eyes and His lovely beautiful face. The love of God pouring through His eyes and His broken bleeding body and He handed me His side and I fed it to the children. He said “There was always enough because He died.” He handed me a cup that flowed with blood and water from His side He said “There’s always enough because I died.” I gave it away to the children and it multiplied, just multiplied in my hands. From that day we’ve never said no to a dying hurting child taking them all. The next time the weight of God’s presence fell upon when we returned to Toronto and Randy Clark prayed for me and asked me, he said “God asked him would I want the nation, would I want the nation?” I didn’t know what that meant. I didn’t know God gave out nations I was confused by it but I just ran forward kneeled on my knees and my hands lifted and I screamed “Yes! Yes! Yes!” I was shocked by the power of God electrocute shocking and absolutely overcome by the power of God’s presence. Then I was again stuck to the ground unable to move, this lasted for seven days. Rolland and others carried me into the church and out of the church and in this time God spoke to my heart. He said “That I could do nothing, absolutely nothing without Him.”

Sid: Now when you were carried back and forth and out in the spirit that length of time, were you aware of anything going on on the outside? Were you aware that people were carrying you?

Heidi: I was aware of it I even heard some people laughing, some people thought it was kind of funny, but there was not one thing funny about it. It was holy, it was holy, holy, holy the holy presence of God. God… the first part of this literally I became hot I thought I was going to die I began to scream and I’m not one that would scream in church, I began to scream out “I’m going to die! I’m going to die!” God said “Good I want you dead” and that’s what changed my life. He just wanted me dead to my own desires, my own ambitions and He killed me, He killed me, He killed my flesh and after that experience all of the miracles, all of the healing miracles…

Sid: For those that are not familiar would you tell me… you had mentioned off the air that people had been dead are coming back to life. Tell me about that.

Heidi: Yes we have 4 pastors now who have raised the dead. After that experience where I was on the ground the Lord said “He wanted me to start a training school for pastors.” We started with 12 He gave me a prophetic word over 2 that they would raise the dead. I told them to go and pray for the dead. The next month both of them had raised the dead in Jesus name and revival had resulted from that. We’ve just had 2 little girls raised from the dead in Nampula Provence. A Muslim, complete Muslim Provence, and as these girls were raised from the dead, they died in the hospital, they were given back to the families to bury, to bury. This is recent we can’t tell old stories because they’re all so new (laughing). These little girls were dead and they took them back to their huts. This woman who had just been in our Bible school, Pastor Dawn Wheky, she prayed for them and they were both raised from the dead in Jesus name.

Sid: Now I know that your husband’s grandfather saw so many supernatural things of children having heavenly visitations. How about your orphans, has anything like that happening to them?

Heidi: Absolutely that was why we went to Mozambique. We wanted to see a continuation of what Rolland’s grandfather had seen in Hunan Province, China with orphans. The Lord promised us He would do it again and He called us to Mozambique to the poorest of the poor and He began to pour His Spirit out on these children. We started our churches, over 3000 churches now all with orphans and street children. The Lord, just as He touched me and poured His presence over me and incapacitated me He’s doing it to our children. He pours His Spirit into them and they see visions. Little Evon was taken up on shoulders of angels, danced with the angels, sat on the lap of the Lord and told to preach the gospel.

Sid: He was told… Was he the one that was given a song in heaven and brought back to earth?

Heidi: Hallelujah Hosanna yes! Evon.

Sid: Would you sing that song for 20 seconds or so right now?

Heidi: (Singing) Hallelujah Hosanna, Hallelujah Hosanna, Hallelujah Hosanna, Hallelujah hosanna…

Sid: Oh the anointing’s coming strong. Tell me a little bit… I have a video in which your son, your adopted son, and I imagine a few of his friends were singing the song and you were at the Toronto Airport Church. What happens when you sing that song now that song that came right from heaven?

Heidi: Just the presence of the Lord…

Sid: I could feel it as you were singing (laughing)!

Heidi: (Laughing) The presence of the Lord, Nairberto was singing that song it wasn’t Evon in the video but Nairberto who we found on the streets of Maputo a gang leader, a gangster gang leader. Absolutely taken a hold of by God and changed and now he’s at the school of ministry here in Toronto, he’s studying to be a minister.

Sid: Now do they really preach on the streets after they have these visitations?

Heidi: Oh yes we all preach on the streets! We’re still on the streets that’s where all the wonderful stuff happens out on the streets where the poor hear the good news. I was just in a garbage dump a couple of months ago and a man paralyzed from the waist down, 2 months paralyzed – Whoa! – The Lord completely healed Him. He was… yeah 2 years he was paralyzed, 2 years he was unable to walk. I went to the dump went with his wife way down into the depths of the bowls of the dump and the Lord said to me “Baptize him.” I had no river, the poor don’t live by rivers, you know there was no river, there was no lake, and just found a cup of water poured it over his head in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I broke this spirit of death and darkness off of him and he got up and walked in Jesus name. Totally and completely healed – Whoa! I…

Sid: Excuse me Heidi in your video I heard you say what you just said a number of times “Whoa!” Why are you doing that, what is that?

Heidi: I just feel such a strong presence of the Lord that – Whoa! I don’t even know how to contain it, it comes out (laughing).

Sid: (Laughing)

Heidi: (Laughing) Whoa! Sometimes a holy or… it’s just a strong presence of the Lord hitting me.

Sid: Do you ever have religious people that say “You shouldn’t be doing that!” or “You’re such a good speaker why are you doing that? Why are saying these sounds? Why are you preaching from the floor?” Why?

Heidi: Yes I have but I realize now that the Lord uses the foolish things to confound the wise. I actually just recently was saying to God “I’d like notes and quotes. I’d like to sound Dr. Baker thank you very much.” Because a really coherent speaker had spoken ahead of me and instead as I was going to the bookstore to get some books to get notes and quotes, I was again stuck to the floor with the glory of the Lord. God showed me clown shoes He said “You can’t wear these shoes, you can’t wear these shoes you have to walk in your anointing. You walk in the anointing I’ve given you to walk in and I will use you as a sign and a wonder. I will use you the way I want to use you.” I was unable to get any notes or quotes but God showed up and people were changed.

Sid: Is there a transference of anointing that you’re seeing but… obviously I saw you pray for this transference of anointing on all the students at the school of ministry on the video. Do people die to self? Do people walk in the love that God says is available for us when you pray for them?

Heidi: (Laughing) By God’s grace they do and I get emails from hundreds of people that are giving their life away. Giving their whole life away for our precious King Jesus and serving the poor, and serving the lost and dying. It really really happens because of who He is.

Sid: Heidi we’re out of time.