Sid Roth

SID: Sid Roth here with Robbie Dawkins. And so Robbie, it blurts out of you before, you get, you had a mind bypass.

ROBBY: Yes.

SID: You say, “Your father is going to be healed and also his lungs are going to be healed.” And she hadn’t even mentioned lungs. After that came out of your mouth, what happened?

ROBBY: Well have you ever heard yourself say something, and as you’re hearing yourself saying it, you’re like, what did I just say? And I mean, I wanted with all my might, all my power to reach out and grab those words before it hit her ear and pull it back, and swallow it, destroying any evidence that I had uttered anything so stupid in my entire life. And so the first thing I said, “Now wait a minute.” I said, “You need to know something,” I said, “I’m no healer.” I said, “As a matter of fact, it’s probably a bad thing that I prayed for your dad because nobody I ever pray for gets healed.” And I said, “I don’t know what I’m talking about, you should not listen to a thing I say, because I absolutely, I have never prayed for anybody I have seen get healed.” And she says, “But you said God was going to give my dad a new heart.” I said, “Yes, but,” and she said, “Thank you,” and click, she hung up the phone. When I heard that phone click my heart dropped to my toes and I thought, oh dear God, this is some sort of, you know, exposé show on pastors who promise healing that actually kill people, and I just fell into the trap. I need to get my resume together. I’m going to get sued.

SID: Okay. A few days later, she calls you back. What happens?

ROBBY: It wasn’t even a few days. It was two hours later.

SID: Two hours?

ROBBY: She calls back and…

SID: [unintelligible] two hours now.

ROBBY: She was going into surgery right at that time.

SID: Oh I see.

ROBBY: So she calls back two hours later and all I hear on the other end is, [unintelligible], and she couldn’t talk, and I didn’t understand. And so I hung up on her. And then she calls back and she’s like, “Please don’t hang up this time.” And I said, and I recognized it was her, and I thought, oh dear God, I killed her dad. You know, I prayed for him, he’s dead. He probably would have at least survived a little bit. I’m serious, I was in panic. And I started immediately apologizing. I said, “I’m so sorry.” She said, “Sorry for what?” And I said, “Your dad died, right?” And she goes, “No, my dad didn’t die.” She goes, “That what I’m calling to tell you.” Now no one was more surprised to hear that than me. And she goes, “No.” She goes, “This is the thing.” She goes, “I just talked to the doctor.” And she goes, “When the doctor opened up my dad’s chest,” she said, “they couldn’t even find any scar tissue from the previous surgery except the scar on the outside of his chest on the skin.” She said, “Here’s the thing, he had a pig valve replacement of his valve and his heart, and the doctor said it was completely gone.” She said, “When they opened him up,” she said, “he had the heart—”

SID: The replacement was gone?

ROBBY: The replacement was gone.

SID: Wow.

ROBBY: He had a heart of a 30-year-old man, the doctor said.

SID: But then wait until you hear this next thing.

ROBBY: “My dad had a half lung removed because of lung cancer.” And she goes, “When they opened him up and checked, the doctor looked and said, ‘I believe this man has a whole lung.’ And they checked, and he did. He had a whole lung where he had half a lung removed.”

SID: So when this began, something began in Robbie and he has not been the same since. But the thing that intrigues me the most, Robbie, is I’ve seen pictures of this. You go out on the street, you talk to total non-believers and they say they feel something. They feel the presence of God. How did this start and can others do this?

ROBBY: Absolutely. I mean, anybody can do it. My, what I really believe is Jesus came to show us not what he could do as the Son of God, he was drawing a map of what we could do. He was coming as the second Adam to reinstate what the first Adam gave away. And so going out and just following what Jesus said. When Jesus said, “These things you will do and greater,” it’s an invitation to come and do the things Jesus did.

SID: That’s what happened in the first thing that happened with you after they got healed, they were all non-believers. What happened?

ROBBY: That next Sunday, she ended up coming to the church. I argued with her on the phone. I said, “I won’t believe it until I see a doctor’s report.” She goes, “Are you sure you’re a pastor?” And I said, “Yes, and I’m not a naïve pastor.” And she did. That next Sunday she brought a scroll of faxes, she brought a scrolled fax of the doctor’s report and it said everything I just shared with you. And I looked at it, I read it and I was blown away. And she brought her mother, her father who had been healed, her husband. They all ended up giving their lives to Christ as a result of that, every one of them.

SID: So let’s go back because I am so intrigued with the, it’s one thing for a believer to say, I feel the presence of God. It’s another thing for a non-believer to say, I feel. Tell me about this.

ROBBY: Well you know, what happens is that when God, God is in relentless pursuit of us. He’s pursing us. He’s passionate about us. We’re not begging him to come. He’s right here. He wants to come. And so when we pray for people they can feel it and we have the authority. Jesus said, “All authority has been given to me and I am in you.” And so all that authority that he has lives in you, and his power of source was the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit lives in you. We have all the ingredients living inside of us that was in him that did all the miracles. It’s right here. And so when we release we have the authority to release the manifest presence of God. Just like Jesus said, you know, “Peace I give to you.” Not just any peace, my peace. If somebody gives you something you can give it away. And so when we encounter and receive the presence of God we can give that away. We can release that. And so many times I would just pray for people, and I love especially people who just don’t believe at all, people who are atheists or don’t believe at all, to release to them the manifest presence of God so that they will feel the reality, the tangible presence of Jesus and realize that he’s real and that he’s in passionate pursuit of them. And they see it happen all the time.

SID: You know, it’s beyond that. And by the way, when he said see it happen all the time, he means that because the people where the presence of God is, all things are possible, all things. People are getting healed, coming to know Messiah. But he told me something when I was having a meal with him about he’s on a plane and there is a Jewish woman next to him, and if you thought it was a little funny, his first story, you will, you’re going to fall out of your seat even at home on this next story with this Jewish woman. We’ll be right back.