Sid Roth

Sid: I had a divine appointment a friend of mine who is a pastor contacted our office and said “Sid, I have a Prophet that’s in my church that’s the real thing, I want you to come and hear him speak.”  I went to his church and I met Jose Santana and he prophesied a few things over me and it remains to be seen whether they come to pass, and time will tell. However, Jose you did something that I’ve never seen before you took a look… I happened to have a picture of one of my 3 granddaughters. This is the middle one and she’s one of these children that knows what she wants and will not change her mind, she instantly knows. I mean I’ve never seen a little one even when she’s two years old she was like this.  And you looked at her picture and you said that exactly.  And then you also said that she will be given a gift of music.  Now when you said to me what you did and I know that was accurate. Now I’m told that this happens many times when you look at pictures of people you know things about what will happen in the future and about them currently.  How do you know this, do you hear it, do you see it; take this case.  We were having lunch and I pulled a picture out and you tell me this; explain to me what’s going on inside of the man.

Jose: I’m glad you asked usually what do is I inquire of the Holy Spirit of God and I look at the picture as a place of contact.  Just like the Apostle Paul will have handkerchief and would give them to the people and they will get healed.  But in this particular application I look at the picture and I look at the face and I look at the eyes and I asked the Holy Spirit to begin to give me the inside, the makeup likes and the dislikes of the person.  Right away the Word of the Lord just begins to come out of my belly and that’s how.

Sid: Now did you have the whole thought and then speak it out; or did you just speak it out as sort of like a good secretary word for word; as you hear one word you speak one word?

Jose:  I’m glad you asked; usually there’s two ways of process.  It comes from the belly to your mouth and out, that’s in the spirit.  And the carnal mind goes from the belly to the mind to the lips.  So it’s starts by human and I don’t like that I said “Lord just allow the word of God to come from my belly whatever information You’re giving me and be released.  I know that it’s not of mind because I don’t know the people that I see through pictures or in meetings.

Sid: I want to learn more about this gift it really intrigues me and it says in the Bible that we should all prophesy.

Jose:  Yes.

Sid:  So that means that we all should be intrigued by this particular gift.  But I said one other thing at lunch that was troubling me.  You’re one of the first prophets that I’ve said this to that I believe that doesn’t mean that we’re both right.  But you did say what I believe.  I have many prophets that say “You have to believe the prophetic word or it to come to pass.  And if it didn’t come to pass that’s because you didn’t believe it.” And you said to me “If God says it it’s going to happen.”

Jose:  Absolutely.

Sid: Jose I see that as a cop-out an excuse when things don’t happen.

Jose:  I believe that too, I fear the Lord so much that I only speak what He allows me to speak and those things that He’s shown me in the Spirit that is the only thing I share with people.  And I always tell people “I’m not that bright like people with masters and all of these degrees but by the Spirit when He revealed and He speaks to me it is so clear.” It’s so profound that I could not help but to share what the Word of the Lord.

Sid: Now I want to see a little bit, I see the man I want to see what God has done with you.  There was a point and you were not a believer in the Messiah and it seemed as though everything was going wrong in your life.  You had the dishonorable profession of being a drug dealer.

Jose: Yes.

Sid: Using drugs.

Jose:  Right, right

Sid: But everything was coming apart; tell me about it.

Jose:  Oh my, about 25 years ago I left Puerto Rico and moved to New York City and I was poor with a neighborhood and I met some people that was the time of the hippy era and I starting to do a little marijuana and then some other things escalated to heavy drugs.  And then I met other people and we started selling drugs and so forth and I made a mess of my life.  I hit bottom and I almost killed myself in a car accident and I went in the wrong direction, and my family was praying for me.  And one of them said “Can you come to church with us?”  And I said “I tried everything else and it didn’t work.” So I said “Let’s go to church and see what happens.”  And a regular guy sitting there in the 2^nd service gave me a Word of Knowledge.”  I didn’t know what a Word or Knowledge was all about and he said “Jesus Loves you.”  And I go “This guy is wrong, all the wicked things that I have done, all the sinful things that I have done in my life; and how could Jesus love me.”  So I got out of the chair and I took 2 steps and out of my belly rivers of living waters and the peace of God that passes all understanding hit me.  And I said “Lord, who shall I share this experience?”  He said “Call your wife.”  So I called my wife, she said “Calm down, calm down you’re too excited.”  And I go “Honey, I tried drugs, I tried alcohol and I did the things that are wrong and that didn’t get me excited now this thing about Jesus.”  So she kept an eye on me and 3 months later she says, “I don’t know what you have but I want what you got.”  And she got born again and sanctified by the blood of the Lamb.  And 3 years later God began to give me visions in the church.

Sid:  Wait a second Jose, they prayed for you you had this wonderful feeling.  Did you speak in unknown tongues at that time?

Jose:  No, no.

Sid: Okay but you had this, you had all sorts of feelings with drugs and you were a dealer but this was something far better than anything than you’ve ever had.

Jose:  The love of God, the joy drew me to His presence.  I was a person who didn’t like to read any book. So 3 or 4 months later He gave me the desire to read the Bible.  And it would be 8 or 10 hours a day that I would be crying on the floor reading the Bible.

Sid: Now I have a question.  Your wife must have thought we Jewish people have a word called mashuga.

Jose:  Yes. 

Sid: Your wife must have thought that you had gone mashuga, crazy. (Laughing)

Jose: Absolutely but the craziness that she saw in me was good because I became home-bound and respectful to all things my work area, my relationship with my wife; relationship with my pastor.  My relationship with all of the people around it changed, it was a process. 

Sid: Can you picture what had happened to you if you had not had that encounter with Jesus the way you were headed.  You’d probably would be dead now or in prison.

Jose:  The Lord showed me a dream that some people were looking to kill me and gave me the name the automobile that they drove.  But I did not know nothing about the gift; to me it was just a regular dream and I was going crazy.  And I was going “What can I do with this thing?”  And that was my turn around I believe to come out of Egypt into the things of God.  But everything that I know about the Lord it is a process; it is not overnight. As you yield to God and begin to fellowship with Him and read His word and obey His word, then your inside begins to change.

Sid: Now how many years ago did this happen?

Jose: Over 25 years ago.

Sid: I have a question, you’re still very tender over this.  I see tears welling up in your eyes, this happened so long ago; why are you still tender over this Jose.

Jose:  The Bible declared “To whom much has been forgiven much love.”  And I know that I was destitute to go to hell because of my lifestyle. I am so grateful every day that He saved my soul.  Not the gift, the gift is something that He gives to whoever He wants to that’s what the Bible says.  But just the relationship that He has with me.

Sid: You know Jose a number of years ago I had a dream from God.  My kind of dream is one that is literal and in this dream God told me to do something and He knows me.  I did it the moment He told me.

Jose:  Yes.

Sid: And He told me to do a book it made no sense.

Jose:  Hm.

Sid: But He knows better.

Jose:  Yes.

Sid:  And so I wrote a book and they called it “They Thought For Themselves