Sid Roth

Sid: What happens to a nice Jewish couple in New Jersey where the husband’s in the diamond industry working with Chasidic and Orthodox Jews.  He’s Vice President on the diamond exchange 6 figure income and he has an encounter with Jesus.  And then his wife has an encounter with Jesus; she’s what we affectionately call in the Jewish community a JAP, a Jewish America Princess.  But they had a deniable encounter with the Lord and Bonnie there was a turning point in your life even after that occurred.  When the two of you went to visit my friends in a church in Toronto?  What happened to you and your husband?

Bonnie:  We had gone to visit an outpouring we were told of God in Toronto where the Spirit of the Lord had just had visited a place and people were being healed right in front of us.  People were finding Messiah; people were having dreams and visions.  It was just an entire encounter with the Spirit of God; things that we can read in scripture were coming to life.  They were actually happening and they happened to us as well.

Sid: Now tell me what you observed with your very eyes that happened to your husband there.

Bonnie: Oh my (Laughing) well I experienced my husband king of being nailed to the floor under the power of God, and experiencing the presence of God stronger than ever.  My husband was just crawling around; crawling on the floor; and was on the floor of an elevator and nailed just sitting there.  Crazy things that just seemed to be crazy at the time which later on which we came to understand where the power of God invades the body the body the body is very weak and feeble and just does not stand up and act it’s normal self.  And it was a few days of that and again knowing I was married to a very sane man; we knew that it was just an encounter with the power of God.   

Sid: Would you put your husband Felix on I want to ask him what come about this.  Felix has a nice job a 6 figure job and Vice President on the Diamond Exchange.  But after this occurred for 6 months what was going on with you Felix?

Felix:  Sid I was manifesting on the streets of New York City (Laughing) it was just an incredible…

Sid: You mean by manifesting is the glory of God would come on you and you know what some of you may be laughing right now.  But you cannot stand when the glory of God comes on you; the Hebrew word for glory is Kavod which means a heaviness.  And when the Kavod of God comes on me I can’t stand up; how about you Felix?

Felix:  It was the same way I would be going from an appointment to another appointment and as soon as I just began to come into the presence of God this thing began to overcome my physical being and I became completely incapacitated.  I remember when my first journey to Toronto I came from rather conservative roots; I’ve always been rather a conservative person.  And we came back from one of the meetings and I want to tell you I literally crawled from the front door of the hotel on my hands and knees through the lobby.

Sid: Now you are a Vice President of a large diamond company you’re not supposed to be doing this Felix you know that.

Felix:  Yes (Laughing) but it’s just you know an amazing amazing time; I have no explanation other than looking back; the Lord was getting us ready to take a traumatic supernatural step of faith out of a very solid career.  Keep in mind that I’m in my mid 40’s, kids in college, we have a home, I have a wife and God was getting us ready to take one incredible dramatic move. I believe that the level of revival that hit our lives was all in preparation for the ministry to the Jewish people.

Sid: Paint me a picture of what is shortly going to happen in the New York metropolitan area; no not just the New York Metropolitan area throughout the world in reference to Jewish people.

Felix:  I believe that we are in an hour where God’s arm of salivation He literally is bringing forth his voice. Jewish people are having divine encounters with God because of the hour that we are in.

Sid: Last month you invited me to a series of meetings at your congregation and there were a number of Jewish people there that didn’t know Messiah that came forward.

Felix:  Correct we had 6 or 7 people come to faith in Messiah, some of them were Jewish.  What was it?  Well, in their heart they are already seeking more of the supernatural they’re seeking for God, but there is something in the presence of God, the power of God, that draws His people to them.  And that’s what’s happening all over the earth; not only that I believe that we’re in a day that God’s restoring the church.  And restoring the hearts of the fathers to the children giving them an understanding of the Hebraic roots and the very purpose of the church in terms of stewarding the end time harvest of Jewish souls to Messiah.

Sid: You know when I first became a Jewish Believer in Messiah in the 70’s in the early 70’s there literally was a move of God’s Spirit.  I’m seeing people getting healed right now in their mouth, their teeth are being healed; their gums are being healed.   And pain of all kinds especially in the back and neck and hip; pains of all kinds are disappearing.  But in the early 70’s Felix when I became a believer there was a wave if you will of God’s Spirit on young people it was called the Jesus Movement.  And there were a number of young Jewish people like myself that were swept into the Kingdom.  I believe that what you’re saying is history is about ready to repeat.

Felix:  Absolutely, absolutely God is getting ready for a move of God; the Spirit of God is coming upon the earth and it is indicative of the soon return of Yeshua. And there is a hunger and longing in the heart of God’s people throughout the earth, throughout the entire earth.  Not only just New York City which is a strategic center and political in every way; but God is moving across the entire earth amongst His people powerfully.

Sid: Tell me about your congregation, Beth Chofesh, which means Beth which means House and Chofesh means freedom.  Now Bonnie explained yesterday that you were given the name of the congregation supernaturally and you didn’t like it because you thought it was too complicated for people to pronounce.  But God made it very clear that that’s the name of your congregation; what’s the objective of your congregation?

Felix:  Well, the Bible says “Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom” I believe in 2^nd Corinthians chapter 3.  And that had always from the very beginning been central to our hearts.  You know when we look at Jewish people coming to the Messiah, to me once the Jewish people come to the Messiah they need to come into a relationship; a supernatural relationship with the Holy Spirit.  And to allow gifts to operate in their lives because I believe that is what God had intended.  And as I looked around not; by any design, not by any conscious effort I realized that there was no places houses of freedom that were “Messianic” in nature.  Where the Jewish people could not only come in and retain their Jewish distinction but also experience and to operate in the supernatural gifts of the Spirit.  So what we see often is we see Jewish people who come to faith, Jewish and non-Jewish we’re a One New Man congregation.  This is what is in the center of our heart; I believe both Jew and Gentile are one in Messiah and both of them come into that unity.  The Gentile has an opportunity to come into that context to receive the fullness of their inheritance and also to be used fully to a light to the Jewish people.  But Beth Chofesh is a place where we say “Lord operate, move and have Your being in this place.”  And that is why I believe the Lord has the freedom to operate; we see supernatural things, we see gifts of healing; we continually see the supernatural nature of who God is.

Sid: What are we going to see? I know what we’re seeing right now but I believe that just  as we’re going to see an outpouring of God’s Spirit on all people and many Jewish people are going to be swept into the Kingdom.  I see an increase in the supernatural and I saw something when I was at your congregation; I saw that you weren’t afraid to pray for hard cases, I don’t mean headaches I mean people that had to have creative miracles.  You seem pretty bold in your faith Felix.

Felix: I believe that we have to become a people who believe in the impossible because we serve a God who makes all things possible.  I believe that in no way can we limit our faith.  Not that a healing for a headache or any other type of ailment even a cancer or whatever it may be but when we see patients, we see people who need a re-creative miracle whether its Spina bifida or any dramatic and drastic condition where a re-creative miracle is needed.  God is the God of the impossible; He’s not limited by those things.

Sid: Felix but we are limited by time right now so we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.

Sid: There is a key, a prayer if you will, that will release blessings in your life beyond anything you ever thought. I have on the telephone from Lancaster, England Peter Horrobin. Peter I have to believe that this is one of the major keys to physical healing; one of the major keys for removing obstacles and barriers between someone and God this most powerful prayer which is a prayer of forgiveness. But we were talking on yesterday’s broadcast about a most important area and that is what about someone that is in an ongoing situation where they’re being verbally abused. How in the world? I mean yes they have to keep forgiving but enough is enough.  If you would talk a little bit about this from what you said yesterday and then continue the thought.

Peter:  Well, I really feel sorry for people that are in that situation it’s not just sorrow it’s actually a huge amount of compassion because it’s not an uncommon problem.  There’s false teaching I believe in the church which says that you just got to keep on forgiving and being a doormat for everybody else.  I believe that they’re actually comes a time when one has to rise up in righteous anger; the scripture says “Be angry and sin not” and to actually put up a barrier and say “I forgive you for what you’re doing but I’m not going to allow you to do it anymore.” And sometimes there are consequences of that and of those decisions but it takes that sort of godly resistance to actually bring people to a place of realizing what they’re doing.  This often happens inside families where you’ve got maybe a mother, or a mother-in-law, or a brother-in-law, husband and wife, or children and they’ve just taken advantage of people and speak out horrible things day in and day out and they crush people’s spirits.  When our spirits are crushed we are really broken on the inside.  Now there is a huge amount of healing that God wants to do for the crushed spirit but to forgive and to keep on forgiving is the entry point to that.  I don’t think I can go into individual situations.

Sid: You know in your book, I just happen to have a phrase that jumped out at me you said “Even if we forgive someone it doesn’t mean that we trust them; trust has to be earned.”

Peter: Absolutely, forgiveness and trust they’re not the same thing; let me tell you a tragic but not an uncommon story that in a local church where a Sunday School Teacher was found abusing one of the little girls in the Sunday School.  And he was brought to the Minister of the Church with the parents and they forgave him and they had misunderstood this whole issue.  They felt that because they’d forgiven they had to actually give this man his job back.

Sid: Hmm.

Peter:  So they forgave him, put him back in the Sunday School and he abused more children.  You see forgiveness and trust are not the same thing. Forgiveness it deals with our heart; today I actually have to deal with our own heart and you can’t trust somebody who’s not trustworthy.  Jesus Himself didn’t trust himself to people; He was very careful in John 2 verse 24 & 25 it says “He knew what was in people’s hearts therefore he didn’t trust Himself to them.”  He’s very forgiving but there’s a huge difference between forgiving and trusting yourself to people.  And so we need to separate that out and not to let people feel that they have to trust people whom they have forgiven. Somebody might earn that trust and become trustworthy, but it’s not necessarily the case. In Jeremiah 12 verse 6 it says “Your brothers, your own family even they have betrayed you; they’ve raised a loud cry against you do not trust them even though they may even speak well of you.”  See scriptures are very helpful isn’t it in this respect.

Sid: Yes Peter I have to think the biggy for a lot of people involves parents; tell me a little bit about forgiving parents.

Peter: I’ll tell you a story, Karen stood in one of my healing services and she was asking for prayer.  She had a kidney problem and the doctors have said “You got a viral condition on both kidneys and there is nothing we can do for you.”  And they actually said “You have less than 12 months to live.  When she stood before me asking for prayer I was saying “God I don’t know what to pray here I have a heart full of compassion but what do I pray?”  And God spoke it right into my spirit and said “Ask her about her mother?”  And so I asked Karen about her mother and she said “I don’t know anything about my mother.” She was “16 she got pregnant and I was given away for adoption.”  And I spoke to her and I just said “Do you realize that before you were conceived in sexual sin?”  And she laughed and said “I never thought about it that way before.”  But she said “Yeah, that’s true and I said “Have you ever forgiven your parents for sexual sin?”  She said “No, I never even thought about it.”  And I said “Have you ever thanked God that you weren’t aborted?”  She said “No.”  So I want you to do these two things and she did; she spoke out from her heart thanking God for her life and forgave her mother and her father for their sexual sin. As she prayed that prayer something happened on the inside she felt something break in her tummy where she was joined to her mom and as I prayed there was a spirit of cursing that was upon her because the sexual sin of a parents the spirit of infirmity began to leave her and she was delivered of that spirit.  Actually that wasn’t the healing, the healing followed immediately afterward like with the woman in Luke 13 when Jesus delivered her of the spirit of infirmity, then He laid His hands on her that she may be physically healed.  And I asked another lady member of our team to lay hands on Karen’s kidneys and she prayed there in tongues for 20 minutes asking God to just bring healing.  And 20 minutes later all the swelling and the kidney’s had gone down, Karen was able to bend over and to touch her toes which she could never had done before for the  pain was so great.  She wrote to me 6 weeks later and she said “She’d been back to the hospital, the doctors had said they could find no evidence of the viral condition and to forget what they said last time; they told her “You’re okay there’s nothing wrong.”  Now the healing was released in her when she forgave her parents for what they had done.

Sid: What about people that their parents have a particular disease and they have the same let’s take something that’s quite common in our culture arthritis.

Peter:  Oh yeah, yeah.

Sid: Give me an example.

Peter:  Well, arthritis is something that even the medic’s say that there are certain percentage of the people that have arthritis who themselves are bitter. So people who are not the nicest and the most pleasant of characters let’s put it this way.

Sid: Now that’s not true for all.

Peter:  It’s not true for all

Sid: Yes.

Peter: Though there are some who are like that and there is a relinking of the attitude of the heart and the physical condition.  Now there are other forms of arthritis that actually seem to come down the generational line.  One generation after another after another has a similar sort of problem.  There was a lady who asked me for prayer and she had 3 years of degenerative arthritic condition.  Her gifting before God was to actually dance and she used to…

Sid: Well, you can see why the devil wanted that curse passed on.

Peter: Well, she wanted to worship the Lord in dance and she couldn’t because of the arthritis. And I said to her “How long have you had this?  And she said 3 years.  I said “Did your mother have something like this?”  And she said “Yes, my mother was crippled with arthritis.  And I said “How long did your mother die?  She said “Three years ago.”  It was a direct correlation.

Sid: Hmm.

Peter: Acts Chapter 20 and verse 5 says “The sins of the fathers visit on the children to the third and the fourth generation.  And this is a reality that we see sometimes in our working and what has happened in one generation after another and we can break that.  In the Name of Jesus we can ask God to just cut that generation line; and that’s what they did she forgave her ancestors for everything they have done, whatever it was.

Sid: In other words you can forgive even though you don’t know what the specific sin they committed was.

Peter: Nehemiah prays a very interesting prayer, he confessed that “I and my ancestors we have sinned.”  It’s not a case of forgiving for something specific but it’s a confession… the word confess actually means “I agree with.”  I agree that my ancestors have sinned and done ungodly things and I forgive them and I release them into the freedom of my forgiveness. And then we can pray “God will you now cut that chain with Your authority you’ve given us in Jesus in the power of the Holy Spirit Lord will you cut that chain.”  And there’s many, many people who have got things that have come down the generation line and they need to just say “God my ancestors have sinned, I agree with that.”

Sid: Now this lady who had arthritis just out of curiosity did you see her dance?

Peter:  Oh, I did twenty minutes later she was up at the front of our meeting hall and she was dancing and she was worshiping the Lord because the arthritis had been healed.

Sid: That fast!

Peter:  That fast, in her case that fast; but sometimes it’s not that fast but in her case that’s exactly what happened.

Sid: So what do you recommend someone does that they have forgiven someone because they know they’re required to by the Bible but there’s a bit deception and every time that person name comes up there is a bad feeling inside.

Peter:  It’s not necessarily a bit of deception, see there are layers of pain and just like an onion has many layers and we can have layers of pain.  And we can forgive; you see the first act of forgiveness is…..

Sid:  So would you call it a process?

Peter: I’d say there’s definitely a process without a doubt because it begins with a choice and let me say this it’s not just a choice because the Bible tells us to.  Because the Bible can tell you lots of things and you do them with a bad heart and doesn’t do a slightest bit of difference.  We’ve actually got to come to the point that actually in my heart I choose to forgive.  I thank God that He chooses to want to forgive me. The story of the prodigal son for example where the father’s arms are wide open, and we actually go to get to that point and saying “God actually I want to forgive.”  And it’s not just because I’m being told to do it; because I want to do it and at that point we can actually begin our process.  And the process can take quite a while because I have a picture that I use to help people understand here.  If you have a bucket of sand and you have a teaspoon and you take out a teaspoonful of sand it doesn’t look as though there is much gone out of the bucket. But you keep on taking a teaspoon out of the bucket and gradually the level of the sand goes down. And you get to the end where there is actually no more sand in the bucket and there is no more pain.  And we need to keep on forgiving until the pain is gone.

Sid: Peter, we’re out of time.

SID: Hello. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I love the rarified air of Heaven. You know what identity theft is. But I want to tell you about the original identity theft. As a matter of fact, this person was put in the witness protection program against his will for 2000 years. His name, Yeshua in Hebrew, Jesus in English, and my guess says, it’s time to bring Jesus, the one called the King of the Jews, out of the witness protection program. So you’re a young college student. You’re into drugs. Your major purpose is fun. You’re Jewish identity, but not too religious, and your best friend becomes a Jesus freak. Ron, how did that affect you, your friendship?

RON: It about ruined my friendship when my best friend Brian came to me and told me that he now is a born again believer in Jesus.

SID: Now the word “born again”, it meant what to you?

RON: It meant freak. It meant crazy. It meant religious nut. And there was a dramatic change in his life. He began to share the Good News with me. And I said, “Brian, I’m Jewish and if there’s one thing I know about being Jewish, we don’t believe in Jesus, or at least that’s what I was taught.” Well Brian was very persistent, and one day he told me, I actually asked him, I said, “Brian, are you actually telling me that if I’m not born again like you,” I didn’t even know what that meant, Sid.

SID: I know you didn’t. You know how I know you didn’t know? I’m Jewish, too.

RON: So I said, “Are you saying I have to be born again to go into Heaven?” I didn’t believe in Heaven. I didn’t believe, I thought maybe there’s a God. But I certainly didn’t know him. And Brian looked at me and he said, “Ron, yes, you must be born again.” And when he said that I knew it was the truth. I don’t know how I knew it was the truth, but it scared me half to death. And I said, “Brian,” I said, “There is nothing in the Bible about being born again.” Which is really funny, because I had never read, not only the New Testament, I never read the Old Testament. And I said, “There’s nothing in the Bible about being born again.” He opens up the New Covenant to John, Chapter 3 where Yeshua says, “Except a man be born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” And it was like swords coming out of Heaven. I was just, I didn’t know what to do.

SID: But he wanted to be right with God, if there is a God. And so he didn’t know what to do. So he’s in college and one day another friend who’s a Christian takes him to a Christian movie. What happened?

RON: Well this fellow Dean found out that I was a believer. We had a conversation a few days before about Yeshua, about Jesus, and as we’re talking, I suddenly felt the presence of God. I didn’t know what it was. I had never felt it, but there was just an incredible supernatural peace. Well he says, “Ron, I want to take you to a movie about Jesus.” Two days later, we went to the movie in Durham, North Carolina, and at the end of the movie, we’re both crying. I mean, it was a, as far as movies go, I’m all for a movie, but it was a movie. I wasn’t going to become born again because of a movie. We get in the car, we’re driving home and nobody is talking. And we get about a half hour back, it’s an hour drive. We’re a half hour back to school. And I said, “God, I have to know the truth. Is Jesus the Messiah or do I need to become an orthodox Jew or a Buddhist? Just show me how to serve you and I’ll do it.” And the next thing I remember is Dean loses control of the car. It begins to swerve from side to side, flips over upside down in a ditch.

SID: My goodness. Was it totaled?

RON: The car was totaled?

SID: Were you totaled?

RON: Not a scratch on either one of us. And that was my first prayer. That’s when I realized that prayer is power. And we got out of the car, we went to, there was only one house within miles. We knock on the door. And lo and behold, two wonderful believers in Yeshua, Jesus, answer the door, and next thing you know I’m sitting in their living room and I’m asking them about Yeshua. I said, “If Jesus was the Messiah, why didn’t he get off the cross and just prove it to everyone?” And you see, all I knew up until that point is that I needed to be born again, but I didn’t know why. They explained to me about sin, that I was a sinner, that Yeshua came to die for me, that he could have easily gotten off the cross, but he chose to die as a sacrifice for me, and that through faith in him I could have eternal life. Well I didn’t understand anything with their blood, sacrifice, lambs, except for the fact that the power and presence of God was falling on top of me. And when I say, Sid—

SID: Wait a second. You told me that you were into drugs in college. So weren’t you on a drug trip that was like that?

RON: That was my first thought. I said, did I take anything today, and I hadn’t. And I wasn’t a drug addict. I was a drug user. And but this power was, there are no words in English. At the time, I thought this is a force field of electricity coming off of me about a foot in every direction. And I finally stopped and I said, “What is this?” And she said, “What is what?” And I said, “What is this power I’m feeling?” And I believed. I was born again. I walked out of that house a new creature, went back to school. Everyone wanted to know about the car accident. I said, “No, I have to tell you about Jesus.”

SID: You mean, immediately you started talking about Jesus.

RON: Well that’s what Brian had been doing for the eight months previous. That’s all I saw him do. That was my example.

SID: Okay. Now as a Jewish man, I don’t quite get this. He says that Jesus went into a witness protection program and he has just come out, and he wants to tell you who the true Jesus is. We’ll be right back.

Sid: Question, “If someone squeezed you what would come out?”  Answer, “Not a whole lot different then if someone were to squeeze someone that did not know the Messiah.” Problem, “How do you solve it?”  I have an individual that I’ve just gotten to know on the telephone and I am so excited about this interview.  That by faith we’ve decided to do 2 weeks; his name is Leif Hetland and Leif was born in Norway from a 4^th generation Pentecostal family. He went astray as so many young people today are doing it.  But he had an encounter with the Messiah that revolutionized his life and he decided he would serve God.  But he quickly as a Pastor went into burned out works mentality. He didn’t know anything better so he kept doing it.  But then he found that there was something better.  Then he found that there was something more and then his whole ministry was transformed.  And I’m believing as you listen to us this week your whole life will be transformed.  Aren’t you crying, aren’t you praying to God that there must be something more? Aren’t you saying to God ‘I’m desperate for greater intimacy with you.” Yet there seems to be something that is blocking what you know should be yours but you don’t have it yet.  I believe that you ease drop in our conversation that there’s going to be light-bulb that will go on that will forever change your destiny.  Leif,I had a very unfortunate thing happen to me a couple of days ago.  I got  together with a friend of mine is a Biblical counselor and he said “Sid, would you please pray for me because I’m meeting with one of the worse situations; a little fourteen year old girl; she had never been sexually active and one day she had an argument with her parents and she went out in a huff and got together with a male friend and had one beer.”  And he said “You know you really, and she had never had beer in her life.

Leif: Hm.

Sid:  And she came from a good Christian family and then her friend said “You know,” and they were at a party with a few other people, “You really need to unwind would you have another beer.”  And she did; she had the second beer and then before she knew it they slipped a drug on her called ecstasy and before she knew it she was getting intimate with all of the male guests at that party.

Leif: Wow.

Sid: And she was going to now meet with this Biblical counselor; what a sad tragedy!  And he said something to me which I would like you to pick up on.  He said when he first spoke with her he said “Where do you think you made your mistake?”  And she said “When I had my first beer.”

Leif:  Hm.

Sid: And he said “No, you made your first mistake when you got angry with your parents.”  I’d like to know what’s going on inside of you with that story.

Leif:  Well, I can identify with that story because it was very similar to my own life and my own story because of anger towards parents and eventually towards church and also related towards anger towards God.  And I spent about 5 years with scars as a consequence of some of my action that I did as a result of it.  But I do believe that so many young people that are looking for security; they’re looking for love, value; they’re looking for affirmation they’re looking for purpose and destiny.  And suddenly as a thing in the middle of that when something is being devastated many times when they don’t know what to do they don’t know where to go.  First of all I want to encourage some of the parents as a reminder of Luke 15 where you have a perfect father and still one of them  chose rebellion and the other one chose religion despite of the parents have lived right and perfect.  The other encouragement I want to say even to this young lady and this young girl like it is my life and  I hope that no body needs to experience what she had experienced.  And then at the same time Sid I have seen again and again where the Father Himself places His robe of righteousness.  And I have sit there actually who had ended up actually with prostitution and has stood before an altar with white dress feeling like virgin again.  And that means that through Messiah, through Jesus an encounter of the robe of righteousness being placed upon them that they have been bathed by the Father and in the Father’s love.  And He went back and He visited that incidents and all the different things that took place that the Father just erased and when they’re looking back they’re not looking at their history but their destiny.  So I think that even like a Rehab she was not treated on behalf of her history but her destiny.  And I just want to encourage both the parents that even if they’ve been perfect parents you can still end up with a prodigal son and a brother.  And for this precious little girl what men had meant for evil God still can use this for good and she could be a tool that God can use if she just allowed healing love of God to move in and to visit that episode and to be able to through the precious blood of Jesus like we believe in physical healing do an emotional healing.  And I have 100’s and 100’s of stories just from the last couple of weeks not of the same incidents but  similar incidents where people again have been restored back again just before the fall came in.  So I am sadden in behalf of her and her family and at the same time period I do believe as I’m saying that so many times I’ve seen that tragedy has become a triumph.  And instead of whining we can be shinning; instead of being bitter we can become better.  And that’s what I and I pray that the rest of the believing audience will do; we will stand in the gap and we’ll pray that for this for this 14 year old girl and the family.  And that this little girl can be another person that would fit into the Hebrew hall of faith, I will call it a hall of grace.  And humility releases God’s ability, so when she has broken down she’s been humbled I just ask now that we would have the same view towards this girl as we see the Heavenly Father did in Luke 15 towards a prodigal son because maybe of his anger and hurt he wasted his inheritance.  And let us just also keep that heart and that love.  And I do believe that that perfect love can come in and it can bring healing to the wounded heart and the wounded spirit and one day that she can stand before a husband even back in the memory bank knows what happened she can still feel like a virgin because of the precious blood of Jesus covers over all of the mistakes that she has done.

Sid: Leif I want to take you back to 1995 and an individual I’ve interviewed several times crossed paths with you; his name is Randy Clark.  Tell me what he prophesied.

Leif:  Well, I was in a pastors conference in Halgason, Norway. I was the Senior Pastor of  Psalmist Baptist Church.  And in the middle of the meeting like everybody else I had a lot of orphan spirit and orphan thinking; I can be honest I went there I want to get something so I can have a growing congregation of gifts of the Spirit.  I was there to evaluate God in   what He was going to do for me.  But when Randy came up to me and he prophesied he spoke and he saw a picture of me being a bulldozer and he said, “You are going to go into nations and territories where the gospel has never been before and I’m seeing like the Amazon jungle a bulldozer and I’m seeing it’s knocking down all of those trees but I’m seeing there is a mass amount of people that is following after you.”  And then he used the word apostle.  As a Baptist I was just thinking well, missionary but I didn’t understand what that meant.  But right after that I had a major injury where I ended up with almost nine months out and in of hospital and almost most lost my sanity; so it’s very strange that there’s a battle that you have to fight after the battle you won.  There God is making me pregnant-ed  with His purpose and His reason but I didn’t have ears to hear what that meant.  But for nine months I laid in hospital bed with a destroyed neck and back.  And all I could do was to look up and during that time period the Father started to beat His beat in my heart in regard to the 35,000 people who died today who lived their whole entire life on this earth and they never heard the name of Jesus and it just changed my life.

Sid: In your wildest imagination Leif, in your wildest imagination did you ever think you would win a half a million Muslims to the Lord?

Leif:  Definitely no and still sometimes I feel intimidated when I’m hearing about me winning because I do know so clearly everything is God’s grace.  And it’s such a team effort and there’s other people that definitely needs to get the honor and the glory for that.  I was thinking about one Pakistani missionary who said “I spent 25 years praying and preparing the ground and eventually was kicked out of the country.  And I saw two believers in those 25 years.  He is a professor of one of the most famous seminary actually the head of the Messiology Department with a PhD.  And then for us to be able to be coming into place such a seed to 10s and 10s of thousands of people in every single meeting.

Sid: I was watching a video in Pakistan and seeing blind eyes open and people…children that have never spoken before, never heard before.  And I believe Mishpochah that God has lead Leif to an understanding of the Father’s love that the Father God has for Leif.  And the Father has so much love He has as much love for you as He has for Leif and I believe as much destiny as for you as He has for Leif.

Sid:  Let me tell you some good news; we are proclaiming the gospel in the largest Jewish populated city in the world, New York City; secular television; prime time.  Listen to this we just went on RNN TV which is carried on the Time Warner Cable in New York City, Manhattan channel number 91.  We’re on Monday nights at 9:30 pm; the Time Warner cable has 4.2 million households or 93% of New York’s total cable households.  And the RNN it’s self covers New York City, Hudson Valley, as well as New Jersey.  So as far as I’m concerned to be on secular radio in New York City at this strategic, strategic moment in which God is removing the spiritual scales on the eyes of Jewish people.  And I want to have the money to pay for this and God is going to provide it. We took a step out in faith; we are debt free but I believe God told us to go on this station and I want to have the money to have advertisements in New York City newspapers directing Jewish people to watch “It’s Supernatural Television” where they will see miracles such as the guest I have on the telephone right now. His name is Bill Kent I’m speaking to him at his home in Blue Ridge Summit, Pennsylvania.  This is without a doubt one of the most verified medical miracles I have ever seen in almost 30 years investigating miracles.  Bill was in an accident; hard to believe he had a motorcycle accident with a train in May of 1985.  He had closed head injuries, massive traumatic brain damage, spinal injuries, ruptured optic nerve, cardiac arrest; he was comatose for 3 months the doctor said “There’s no hope.”  Quadriplegic, in a wheelchair and he’s about ready to commit suicide, he had all sorts of turmoil going on his life.  You can understand this; how many years were you in the wheelchair Bill?

Bill:  Fifteen and a half years;

Sid: Fifteen and a half years. He actually was involved in the Wheelchair Olympics and he won 39 Gold Metals in shooting. But he heard a voice and the voice said go to Columbus, Ohio on a specific date, November 5^th.  So he just didn’t know what but this voice kept repeating itself day after day; November 5^th go to Columbus, Ohio.  And so he turns on the TV channel surfing and he catches Rod Parsley, he’s never seen him before and Rod’s talking it’s an infomercial on a Debt Burning Service.  But it’s like the Holy Spirit said “That’s the place and it’s in Columbus, Ohio where I’m sending you,” but he didn’t have any money. And his church took up an offering and he went to Columbus, Ohio. It just turns out on November 5^th there happens to be a Miracle Healing Service.  So he wheels himself in; he had already talked to someone on the telephone getting some instructions and the person prayed for him. And for the first time he felt burning in his feet; he knew God was up to something; and so he goes in wheels into the church and what happened next Bill.

Bill: Well, after we entered the sanctuary the service began and the director of praise and worship came out and made the announcement “It was going to be a miracle faith and healing service, but there couldn’t be any unbelief in the house.” So he said “If you can’t believe or you don’t believe then he’d have to ask you to leave. and I saw a few people get up and leave.  Well praise the Lord for that because the next thing that happened Pastor Parsley came out you know after the praise and worship for about an hour and hour and half Pastor Parsley comes out.  And he says that “The Lord had woken him in the wee hours of the morning and told him that there was somebody coming from far away on the promise that he would be healed.” Well my spirit just absolutely leapt you know because that was me; you know I had come from far away on the promise that I’d be healed.  So the service goes on and you know Pastor calls the first thing that happens pastor calls the homosexuals down, blows my mind. He commands the church in prayer over these homosexuals that they be set free.  It’s unlike anything that I’d ever experienced before; the unity in prayer in that church was incredible.  There were over 7,000 people in that church that night and to command prayer where 7,000 people come into unity like that it was incredible.  The service goes on; he then calls the diabetics down and that’s me because I’m a diabetic.

Sid: In addition to everything else (Laughing)

Bill:  Yes.

Sid: Okay.

Bill:  The parking lot just before entering the church I tested my blood sugar. Now I had not had insulin for 3 days I ran out and couldn’t afford to buy any.  So my blood sugar tested in the parking lot was 470.  Normal blood sugar is between 80 and 140 once you get above 140 you’re in trouble.  Mine was 470; so I go down front with my dog and you know I’m sitting there and prayer is going on and the church comes into such unity again but I don’t feel anything.  Pastor Parsley said this is for only the diabetics so if you’re down here and you don’t have diabetes go back to your seat and wait.  Well, a few minutes went by and then he said “The Holy Ghost just said ‘If you have way feel that you’re going to be healed of anything you had better get down here.’” So with that 1000’s came down front the prayers went on, general prayer for healing for all kinds of different infirmities, carpal tunnel syndrome, cancer, HIV, back pain, knee pain, all kinds of things.  And I started seeing miracles unfold; I started seeing blind eyes opened.  I started seeing deaf ears pop, and people beginning to hear, I saw chronic back pain you know gone. I saw cancer gone, I saw visible tumors disappear right before my eyes. It’s incredible absolutely positively incredible. So you know it’s like the service is going on and on and on and on.  And it seems to me like it’s getting towards the end of the service and you know I’m starting to feel a little bit let down. I just cry out to God. I said “God, You told me to come to Columbus, Ohio, and You told me to come to Columbus, Ohio and I’d be healed but I don’t feel anything.  And so it’s like “I know You’re not a liar, I know that You’re a God of Your word; and this is what You told me to do so You better do something.”  And with that I went to adjust myself in my wheelchair and one of ushers his name is Jerry Moore, he was standing to my left. Jerry leaned over and he says, “Are you trying to get out of that chair?”  And what I wanted to say was “No, I’m just adjusting myself” but before I could say anything words came out of my mouth “I’m going to jump out this chair in 30 seconds.”

Sid: My goodness when it came out of your mouth what did you think?

Bill:  I didn’t know what to think I was you know, in shock and awe.

Sid:  Did you get up?

Bill:  I did 30 seconds later I was standing up and Jerry the usher the only thing that kept him from hitting the floor was that there was a knee wall behind him that caught his fall.  And so he started you know praising God you know and said “Can you walk?”  And I said “I don’t know this is the first time I stood in 15½ years.  So he said “Take 3 steps forwards and 3 steps back” and before I knew it I had done it.  And then he says to me he says “Can you walk up those steps onto the platform?”  And I you know just held my hands up and said “I don’t know let’s ask God.”  And before I knew it I was on the platform.

Sid: How did you get there?

Bill: I don’t know.

Sid: (Laughing)

Bill: God knows.

Sid: How many years since you’ve been able to walk?

Bill:  Fifteen ½ years.

Sid: Here let me read this to you Mishpochah by the way he got his blood sugar down to normal; he actually tested it while he was there.  He is not crippled in any way and let me read from doctor, he’s the M.D. Dr. Horns report which I have right here. “Mr. Kent has been supernaturally healed and there is no medical or scientific explanation for what has taken place.  He went in a quadriplegic with diabetes and a few other things and he walked out; he walked out.”  What did you do with your wheelchair?

Bill:  Well, I still have it because that wheelchair is part of my testimony but I don’t use it.  And I have not used it since that night.

Sid: Okay Mishpochah how would you like to have this testimony covering all the Jewish people and all the gentile people in all of New York City.  I just told you by faith I went on a secular station and they cover 4.2 million households; New York City, Hudson Valley, Connecticut, New Jersey. I need help.  I need you to pray for this ministry; I tell you this is God’s time to remove the spiritual scales from the eyes of Jewish people.