Sid Roth

Sid:  Now my guest is a Jewish believer his name is David Herzog and he is saying by faith what I am saying by faith but it is faith based on the written word of God, and faith on what the Spirit of God is telling us.  David do you see a major revival of Jewish people taking place in Israel?

David:  Yes, right now I believe that we’re on the verge of something fresh and new that’s just starting in its infancy to touch people in Israel in a power powerful way I have not seen it in many years.

Sid:  And you know there’s a scripture that says “The Word of the Lord will go forth from Zion.”  Now it’s not without precedence the first move started in Israel; why shouldn’t the greatest move of God of God’s Spirit in history before this whole thing is wrapped up start in Israel?

David: Well yeah because the Bible does say you know the disciples “When will all these things happen, when will the end come?”  And Yeshua said it clearly He said “Not until Israel says ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.’”  So even if you win every nation of the earth to God but we don’t focus on Israel, He’s still not returning.

Sid: So tell me this “Why are there people that are actually moving in the power of God and either they’re in replacement theology meaning the church has replaced Israel or they say  well I see a place for Israel but I don’t see any special emphasis.”  I don’t understand why they’re getting manifestations of healings.

David:  Yes, it’s hard it’s a hard thing to understand; I think that it’s just a lack of revelation; a lot of time people don’t have an understanding or a revelation. I’ve known a pastor for many years and he was replacement theology and we’re still friends but he had appreciated our ministry and finally he said to me “Brother, man I see the blessing, the favor, the miracles; how is this happening?”  And I told him, “You know what, just come with me to Israel I don’t want to argue with you just come on a trip.” He came on a trip and within about 48 hours he understood the revelation of God touched him and now he’s being blessed.

Sid: Well, here’s what I believe the ones that are moving in the power of God you see “The gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”  You stand in His Name by faith you’ll see the miraculous. What I foresee about ready to happen and you foresee is way beyond a headache; I literally see someone without a leg getting their leg back.  Has God shown these things to you?

David:  That amazing you’re saying that because I was just thinking about one story.  In France we had a big big campaign, glory meeting, miracle meeting. Two people in wheelchairs and instantly walked and they were just healed without anybody laying hands on them.  But a third man he left the meeting early he was paralyzed he left with his wife and they went into the car drove to the hotel about midnight. The paralyzed man the husband stayed in the car and while she was getting the keys in the hotel a thief came and stole the car with him in it.  Not very fun to steal a car with the owner in it.  And the seat-belt well it wrapped around…

Sid: Sounds like a bad movie but go ahead.

David: Yeah, and the thief tried to kick the paralyzed man out the door and he managed to kick him out while the car was moving and the seat-belt wrapped around his leg or something had happened and literally cut off his leg. So he’s paralyzed and now he’s missing a leg; he’s laying on the cement on the highway or the roadway and the ambulance come and take him to the doctor.  They grafted the leg back together but you know as well as I do even if you have a good leg and that happens it’s ripped off like that it’s not a good chance you’re going to walk.  So they grafted it back; I didn’t know that happened and that night I prayed for handkerchiefs I said “Some of you have friends or family that are not here; look at these miracles and pray for these handkerchiefs send them to people that are sick.”  And one lady brought it to the man in the hospital the next day or so and laid it on his leg and began praying and the power of God came on his legs.  Just got out of surgery and they had tried to graft it back; electricity came all over his legs.  He began wiggling his toes and his feet and he was paralyzed for one and now he had just gotten his leg put back together after being cut off.  That’s a big miracle; within 5 days he walked out of the hospital; he’s still healed today he’s no longer paralyzed.

Sid: Hmm, David explain to our people when the glory shows up; I mean have you ever experienced the glory where it’s almost like a tangible cloud that you can touch and you can even see?

David: Yes we’ve even had that happen; I was in a meeting one time in Ashland, Virginia preaching when Ruth Heflin was there. The cloud of glory was so thick. I went outside towards the end of the meeting I walked outside through the back door because I was on the stage; when I looked in you couldn’t see the people there was a literal physical cloud.  Others started walking outside as well to look at it and they couldn’t believe it and it was literally from the outside looking in it was a cloud you couldn’t see the people; it was amazing.

Sid: Explain to me, what is the difference between ministering the anointing of God and the glory of God?

David:  Oh, I love that question, yeah big difference; you could be ministering under the anointing of God that God gave you. You know you’re laying hands on the sick and let’s say there’s 1,000 people and you’re starting to lay hands and 3 or 4 people get healed.  But you know it’s going to take you a long time to touch everybody, but when the glory of God comes in the building it’s like Acts Chapter 4 “It says Lord stretch out Your hands to heal.” And that’s when Peter’s shadow began healing the sick, so when the glory comes in many times you don’t have to go and pray personally for each person there’s like a mass healing thing that happens because His hand is being stretched out.  And that’s where I’ve see the most creative miracles, the most amount of miracles in a 5 minute period I could see several hundred miracles as opposed to me one and one trying to pray for each one and find out what happened.  So the glory is an accelerator whatever you can do in the anointing you can do it way faster in the glory realm

Sid: Well, I want to explain something that’s going on in my ministry and maybe you can give me some insight.  When I first started I would get words of knowledge like say a back and I didn’t know what to do with it I just hear that just out of the blue and that’s how I began to recognize “Oh, that’s coming from God, that’s not coming from me.”  So I would say “Everyone with a back problem come forward” and they would come forward and I would lay hands on them and everyone would be healed.

David: Hmm.

Sid: Then I began to see that if I would just speak that word out people didn’t have to come forward; they could get healed in there seat and so I did that.  Then I began to see that once one person was healed of anything; anyone could be healed of anything.

David:  Hmm.

Sid: In other words people are waiting for me to say a specific word of their condition to trigger their faith to receive; but what I try to tell people is the minute I have one word, my first word the glory is there and grab what you need.

David:  Exactly.

Sid:  Now is this what you’re experiencing?

David: Yeah, exactly what happens is you’ll get one or two words or whatever to start but then it triggers a reaction when people realize wait God’s here and they on their own just start receiving their miracles while the glory is there.  Many times it happens that people just drive by the church building and get their miracle and their not even saved.  So the glory of God is not just limited like you said to you giving a word; sometimes that just encourages their faith to get it started for them to believe.  And the Bible says “My sheep hear My voice,” so they also can hear God’s voice for the healing and the miracles while the glory is happening.  And many many times there’s things that we never prayed for.  I was in Versailles, France on the day the Tsunami hit. A lady just jumped out of her wheelchair; I never called out paralyzed and the glory was so thick she just full of faith and knowing the presence was there just got up and jumped into that glory and she was instantly healed.

Sid: Now you actually proclaimed that people could be transported in the Spirit; explain that.

David:  Hmm, this is going to be fun.  Yeah, in fact let me give you a quick testimony about 2 or 3 weeks ago I was driving to Belgium from Paris and my car broke down about 7:30 the meeting starts at 7:00 I still had 3 more hours to drive.  So I called the pastor and said “I’m not going to make it I’ll be there about 10.”  As I got in the car the Holy Spirit began to tell me about transportation; He said “That which you have been preaching and you’ve seen before I’m going to do it again.”  And I thought is this just me or the Lord, even though we’re in this realm we’ll still sometimes wonder.  And as I’m driving and worshiping the Lord I was there within 45 minutes I saw the exit to the place that I needed to be in Belgium and I was there within 45 minutes.  So that’s one example and when I showed up the church was shocked; the pastor was shocked because they had just finished the worship and I was able to preach.  So I was there way ahead of time; you can be transported on the earth; you can also be transported to heaven; third heaven.

Sid:  Now I was talking specifically about French Guiana where you made a declaration that there would be heavenly visitations; what happened?

David:  Yeah, we were doing a meeting in the… it looked like a jungle area. That night the pastor and I were talking about how great with God was moving in the meeting and wasn’t that great to see the people being touched. And as we were talking that night we had an angelic visitation; we both were visit by angels to about 4:00 in the morning, which at that point I had never had that happen with another person.  Then the next day flew over to the capital city; shared the experience of what God had done and two people that we know for sure; there were others.  But especially one was the pastor’s daughter she’d just got knocked out by the power of God on her own no one touching her. And they carried her home to her friend’s house she was about 16; her friend was also knocked out like in a trance kinda state where they couldn’t wake her up.  And the mother of the friend began listening to the pastor’s daughter talking in the trance like state and saying “I don’t want to come back, I don’t want to come back.”  When she came back to finally she explained about how she’d been to Heaven and saw Jesus, Yeshua, and saw her best friend. The mom said that “If this is true we’re going to try to wake up your best friend out of this trance and see if this stories real.”  She had just said she had saw Yeshua and her best friend in Heaven.  Woke up the other friend finally out of the trance and the girl said “Mom I was just in Heaven with her.”  And the mom said “Well, what did you talk about she said you had a conversation together in Heaven.”  It was exact same conversation, exact same experience that they both shared.  So yeah, these things are real; there is Heaven and you can visit it.  We had it happen recently while in Israel where half our tour group actually were taken to the third Heaven right at Bethel the place where it all happened.

Sid: Well, let me ask you something if on say I turn you loose tomorrow to preach on this subject of the glory and you also preach a little bit on Friday’s broadcast what do you believe could happen to people as God’s Glory is released that are just listening to us?

David: Yeah, I believe that as they listen and as they’re being touched and open first of all there will be a lot of miracles, healings, creative miracles, maybe signs and wonders anything can happen. There can be people that have angelic visitation.

Sid: Okay, consider yourself challenged Mishpochah.