Sid Roth

Sid: I have on the telephone the Pastor of Victory Christian Fellowship in New Castle, Delaware Dr. Gary Whetsone. We’re talking about his series all this week of what God has joined together.  But when I got Gary on the phone he said, “Sid about a year ago I was in Israel and I had a vision and I must tell people about this,” please Gary tell me what you saw.

Gary: When I was standing on the Mount of Olives looking over at the eastern Wall right where Jesus would come through the eastern gate as He returns. All of a sudden, actually I was on a video interview asking people to come to Israel with us on the next trip. The entire world just vanished and I saw it go before my eyes, it was an open vision where you are aware of your surroundings, but yet you’re seeing just a panoramic view of what God is revealing. I watched humanity from barbarous days from humanity from every type of culture end. Ethnic origin and agenda age passed into a time where God cried out to them “Here My voice.” Then they would move, some people would listen and they would stay in that voice of the presence in the voice of God. The majority of the people moved outside of that voice, and there was a multitude of other voices. Some voices were telling them what God was saying, others were telling them what God wasn’t saying, what man should do, and people would begin to do things and build things. Everything they did and built even in the name of God burnt up. As I watched this vision I began to, just in my spirit it was like a horror because I realized so few people stayed in the centrality of the voice of God. Then the most effective thing that I saw was myself.  I watched myself come into life, and then come into the voice of God when God spoke to me. Then I watched, people I knew explain what they thought God was telling and saying to do. Then I watched other people tell me how you do this, and how you do that, and how this should happen. I watched everything that I put my hand to begin to burn, and God spoke to me out of that vision, “If I continued listening to the voices of others that which I do would be burned up, the candle would be taken out of its place, and the lamp would be blown out.” Now Sid what that means is the church God has given, and we have several thousands of people; we’ve led over a million people to Jesus in our lifetime so far. We have the names and addresses of 190 thousand families of first time decisions. What took place in my spirit as I saw that, I realized the risk of lives, it’s not just mine, but those that we lead to Christ; those that we speak who Christ is to; those who we declare what the church is to, but the life of God and the candle of the church itself can be removed.  Just like in the book of the Revelation of Jesus, but as soon as I heard that I was instantly with Jesus, with the Father in communion. Right on this video I’m crying out to God that God would do a miracle for the church; that they would have access to the communion with the Father, and with the Son that I have.

Sid: Everyone is listening to prophets, “What is God saying for me?” But that’s not what the Bible says, the Bible says “My sheep hear My voice” everyone has got so many different teachings, everyone is trying to do things for God, but if I’m hearing you right what you’re saying is we have got so much false teaching out there; we’ve got so much false prophecy out there; we’ve got so much tradition out there that if there is ever been a time that we have to hear God for yourself it’s now.

Gary: It is now Sid. I tell you it shook me to the core of my being. Every day for 6 days a week I take a group of people on the internet and in their sanctuary across the country, and we are praying just for the voice of God to be heard in people’s lives for 2 hours a day because there’s nothing more significant than to hear the voice of God.

Sid: Now you have been praying this for almost a year, what is God saying to you right now?

Gary: Well what He spoke into me so clearly and distinctly is that people must take the time with God. That they just can’t continue on the path of religious activity and their current status of events and the way they do things. Right now they have to pause…

Sid: You know I have to interject something right now because this was my thought when you first told me about this a few minutes before we went on the air. That 2000 years ago a Jewish carpenter, the Son of God, Yeshua, Jesus the Messiah walked into the only correct religion of the day, traditional Judaism. He said “Your tradition makes void the word of God.” Now it’s 2000 years later and I believe He could walk into most religious ministries, most churches; I have an idea Gary He could say the same thing.

Gary: Well He did to me. Sid I’d been in early morning prayer for 30 years; I pray every day for an hour, and when I heard the Lord speak to me that I’ve listened to voices of other, and that I spend an hour a day in prayer it just awoken me to the place of even what I’ve prayed for. Has many times not been offered by God, it just shook me. That’s what I’ve been praying for now for a year. That the people, the body of Christ would just stop, pastors would stop, preachers would stop, and just say “What have You said to me God, and if You didn’t say it I’m not going to do it.”

Sid: So you’re almost saying, not almost you are saying “I’m doing nothing unless God tells me.” Is that what I’m hearing you say?

Gary: I have shut down everything that I have not heard God say to do in the last year.  That is what we’ve done.

Sid: That’s pretty bold, but when you see most of the works that you’ll end up doing that man will say “Ah that’s so wonderful Pastor Gary,” and they’ll just burn up. It’s a game.

Gary: That is it, and you know what took place just in this last year God gave us a play. We have led 2,100 people in one month to a first time decision for Christ, with a play that God gave us in this last year.

Sid: This came out of your quiet time with God?

Gary: Just hearing God’s voice. That was one month we had 2,100 first time decisions for Christ in Delaware.

Sid: You know it reminds of, my office is in Brunswick, Georgia, and there was a prison nearby us in which Jim Baker was in. I used to go visit him and he said to me, you know I was talking to him about a big television ministry. He looked at me and almost laughed he said “Listen if someone has the gifting they can have a big television ministry without God.” That’s almost as sobering as what you just told me.

Gary: Yeah it’s true.

Sid: Okay this week the devil is doing everything he can to divide Christian marriages; to cause divorce; this week I want to do something that is completely Biblical. That is your teaching series “Where God Has Joined Together.” Why did you do this series?

Gary: Well Sid it was right at a time when God did speak to me to reconcile to my marriage and my wife, and showed me exactly how to do it. Out of that voice of God I taught God’s word clearly and exactly of what to do to see marriages reconciled, restored, and bring healthy marriages to better wholeness, and bring sick marriages to health. The word of God has gone forth, and several thousand series have been sold and people have been changed and lives. Marriages all across the nation the world had been healed, and it’s just wonderful.

Sid: Alright, but what about a marriage that’s not going be divorced because both parties are believers, but they are really on AM and FM living in separate worlds. Will this cause the marriage to be what God wants it to be?

Gary: Absolutely, it will bring them to the same plane of communication because it takes God to intervene in the affairs of man for change to happen. It doesn’t happen because I want it to, it happens because God said it will. When I can identify the word of God that said “Change is here and change is now” it comes into being, and that’s what this series brings to bear.