Sid Roth

Sid: There are things that are stopping you and I believe one of the greatest spirits of the age that is trying to stop you from fulfilling your destiny, from having your happiness in your marriage and with your family.  From having your health be perfect from having your…from  being able to absolutely walk into your destiny from even hearing God’s voice clearer than you’ve ever heard it before is the spirit of the age, the spirit of fear.  And one of the things that Gary Whetstone that many people are suffering from is an absolute terror and fear of finances.  But before we talk about this, this book that you wrote, the research that you did; you didn’t just do it because there was a need you really felt God’s hand on this; explain.

Gary:  God gave me a mandate to research every cause and effect in the word of God that deals with fear.  How it affected everyone Biblical from the Old Testament patriarchs to our current day apostles that we read in the New Testament. It unveiled the major causes of fear and the how to see them clearly in there operation. And you know the word fear, and I found that there is an anachronism that kind of brings it clear to understanding it is F: false E: evidence A: appearing R: real; FEAR – False Evidence Appearing Real.  Whenever a person trusts in their history in their flesh they only have something that they know that they’ve done before, and therefore there is evidence that’s there and to step out into something or something that God initiates they feel the restriction.  I’m going to give you a scripture in just a moment.  There’s another cause that fear is here and these are the four major factors that I discovered in the word of God that will change everyone’s life.  A it is trusting the flesh, believe it is.  B, 2) is believing information as it naturally appears.  Reports, a doctor’s report, a financial report, any report that comes.  3) Is the sensory reactions that occur, when my senses are affected and fear is a reaction. 4) It is entertaining evil imagery.  Pictures that are in our mind, pictures of falling off a cliff, falling off a bridge, pictures or dying of suffocation, of having injury in life.

Sid: And by the way, these pictures are easy to come by if you just watch television or go to movies, or get on the internet, what about the addiction that’s going on now with pornography they say that’s the worse addiction than heroin.

Gary:  It is more profitable for those that are producing pornography than any of the major corporations out there because of the additive nature of that imagery of the mind.  Listen to this scripture in Roman’s Chapter 8 verse 15 it says “For you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you have received the spirit of adoption whereby we cry ‘Abba Father, or Daddy God.’”  Whenever a person identifies limitation that’s where fear is the results.  If I wake up in the morning and I perceive I’m only going to make so much money today because this is my payroll I will then have fear to step out in new decisions.  I’m going to give you an example, I worked, I own my own corporations we were bringing in about 10 million dollars a year. One day I’m in a board meeting and God speaks to me “Go in a resign.”  This company made up 1/4^th of all of my income and I heard God put in my heart “Resign.”  I thought, “But that’s going to being to be 25% of I’ve got 40 employees, I’ve got trucks, we’ve got retail stores all over, manufactures wrapping business, I’ve got five corporations under me and this represents 25% of our business.  And I said “God, what do I do next?”  And I heard the voice of God say “Give them the representation of their product from the Mississippi all the way to Maine.” I never did that before Sid I had no idea how to do that, but I walked into the board meeting and I said “Gentleman I’d like to let you know today I appreciate being here, but I resigning as your wholesale distributor in this 4 state region.  Which was Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Maryland.  They just about past out because I was about 20% of their sales, and they said “You can’t, but what?”  I said “What I’m going to offer you is the entire Mississippi to Main territory and all I want is 15% commission. I said “But you don’t have to answer me right now, I’ll stay in my hotel for another hour or two before I fly back you can call me, and send me the contract; I appreciate our time together.”  And I walked out, no fear, no fear of losing 25%.  I get a phone call back in my hotel room, they agreed to it that one agreement created over $250,000 in profit the next year.  Instantaneous manifestation of revenue without any expense no warehousing, no wholesaling, no employees.

Sid: But fear would have stopped you from doing that but why did God want you to do it, I’m curious?

Gary:  Well, I was always supporting the gospel of Jesus Christ, I was always taking not just a tenth of our income, but we were selling heating equipment and I was going into the homeless, the people that had needs, we were providing hearing systems for them and I just wanted to see money flood the kingdom of God.  It had to go for the Kingdom of God I wasn’t in ministry yet, I was still working in the working world. Everything I knew I lived for was to see the Kingdom of God advance.  And that’s what He said, “If you seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness all these things will be added unto you.”  I believe people get created thoughts constantly from God but because of fear they don’t take action on them. They are so familiar with the limitations that they live in that the false evidence appearing real is the standard they live by; fear becomes their faith and they are resistant to the voice of God.

Sid: Can I tell you something. I was so fearful in a lot of the things that I’ve done in the ministry I’m in but I so trusted God that it trumped my fear. I know as a fact, if I hadn’t trusted God I would have never have had this ministry that God’s entrusted to me today, never.

Gary: Absolutely not, if we ever allow or history to dictate our next steps we we’ll never take the steps God’s ordained because bondage is what we’re familiar with.  It’s what we’re comfortable with.  So many people think faith is about getting free from conflict, faith isn’t about getting free from conflict faith is about conquering your next opposition.  It’s about ceasing new territory, it’s about taking what God has given to you as inheritance and crippling everything that has defeated and demeaned you.  People are held by fear in their relationships; they’re afraid to speak a word to their teenagers because they’re afraid of the repercussions of it.  People are afraid to exude love because they’re afraid to be hurt, people are afraid of taking out and stepping out financially even trusting God in giving because they think “What happens when the money’s gone, how’s God going to get it to me.”  Fear has had such an overwhelming crippling affect if has clipped people at the knees and reduced them to bow to that power.

Sid: Give me an example in your life, for instance you’re a pastor, you’ve got to get a new church, it’s going to cost 4½ million dollars and you know it might….that was an impossibility in the natural; what did you do so that you didn’t bow to fear?

Gary: I’m in early morning prayer and I need 1 million dollars in cash within in just like in a month or two I mean this thing was very close in time and I had no money.  And God spoke to me “Go out in the parking lot, face the church,” I looked at this building 4½ million dollar building it is screaming at me.”  God then spoke to my heart.  He then said “Go downtown Wilmington.”  I drive down Wilmington and I look at these high rise buildings and they weren’t saying anything to me. God spoke to my spirit he said “Make that building speak like those building, the other buildings were $52,000,000 buildings.”  So I went back to the building and I command you to bow in the name of Jesus I commanded that fear to come out and loose it’s hold from my life.”  And I got the voice of the building to silence, the next thing that happened was an overwhelming thought of inviting 20 families into my living room.   One of them we were just paying their electric bill the month before, another one I helped bail out of prison because she had been arrested for prostitution.  Another one they had just been in a car accident and had no possibility of getting their food together, we’d been feeding them.  And I went through this 20 people…

Sid: And so this is the group you gathered to get your 4½ million? (Laughing) that’s cuckoo.

Gary:  I mean really you think you’d think you’d invite the people that have the money that had the influence and God said “You select the people I tell you bring them to your living room.”  We all got together in the living room, we started praying, worshiping God and I said “Now I want to tell you why you’re here, God spoke to me that every one of you is going to give $20,000 each into this building project, we’re going to stand up on Sunday make a decree before the church and they’re going to give the other half a million dollars we’re going to make this million dollars manifest in the next 30 days.  They looked at me and the one lady that I help bail out of jail she said “You know what if he didn’t come up with that extra money I wouldn’t have been sitting here today, I’m just going to believe God with him.”  They all agreed just to believe God with me, do you know that within that time all the money manifested.  One of the families that were there gave $80,000 within the 90 days

Sid: How could they do that?

Gary:  They had money by pouring in from all kinds of dimensions I mean out of nowhere.  One person the one that got in the car accident it was just a little fender bender they had hurt their leg, they ended up having a quick insurance settlement for $60,000 because of the bump on the leg, didn’t even get any surgery.

Sid: Hmm.

Gary:   Another person ended up, I don’t know how they got the money they just ended up with $100,000 it was just a floodgate of money poured into people.

Sid: Okay and here’s the thing that you must understand God is not a respecter of person’s He’s a respecter of truth, spiritual truth and it’s time whatever area in your life that you’re not able to get a victory in it’s time to make fear bow.