Sid Roth

Sid:I believe the closer we get to the return of the Messiah the more the missing pieces will come into focus.  And that’s why I have Bill Salus on the telephone; Bill has spent the last 11 years researching what’s going on in the Middle East, the fate of America, and as far as I’m concerned this is a missing ingredient that once you understand this you’ll be able to put end-time Bible prophecy much better.  Bill why does God make prophesy such a mystery?  I am one of these people that say “I like one and one to equal two, I like things to be logical, just show me what it is I’ll pray it and do it.”  Why is it so confusing to so many people?

Bill:   Well, it’s interesting and I think where it draws our attention to Isaiah 46 verses 9 and 10 said where God says “He is God there’s none like Him declaring the end from the beginning, things not yet done seeing his council still stand.”  See He holds Bible prophecy to His authentic sovereignty of His own and that how it’s authentic sovereignty.  But once we start to understand prophesy because in some parts of prophesies we do get an enormous amount of detail.  We start to realize that God…prophesy is for us to inform us, not to impress us, God’s not someone with too much time on His hands, He’s the one who holds all time in His hands. And we should be thankful that He wants to share this upcoming information for us like a loving Father would.  So Bible prophesy which is about a third of the Bible Sid is extremely important we can’t discard it and yet many of us myself including came to the Lord through Bible prophesy.It becomes a witnessing tool,as a matter of fact it says in Revelation 19:10 that the Spirit of Prophecy is the very testimony of Jesus Christ.  Only He can say that, His testimony is prophetic.  So Bible prophesy is an amazing part of the Bible and unfortunately seldom taught in many of the churches today.

Sid:Now, there have been a whole series of what I consider supernatural events for you to get this revelation, digest it and be able to put it out in a form we understand.  Tell me a little bit about how this amazing revelation came to you.

Bill: Well, it’s interesting like I said, “I came to know the Lord through Bible prophesy, I was actually attending a Bible study of a scholar and he was doing the Book of Revelation.  And so I immediately got interested in the Bible and especially in the prophetic aspects of the Bible. I thought well, I’m going to study Bible prophesy I want to study the Bible prophesy that’s most relevant for my time, my families time, my children and grandchildren’s time.  I want to know it all I want to study it all I want to know about the tribulation and times and all of that.  But there’s something right now or is there a shoe that fits right now that would equip me for the days for which I live?  Which I think is really the importance of Bible prophecy; so I started being connected to, especially in the event of September 11^th when the twin towers were toppled, I started realizing listen this is about terrorism, that’s the ugly byproduct of the Arab-Israeli conflict.  And immediately my attention was drawn to those Middle-East prophecies dealing with those ancient territories that surround Israel and Syria and Jordan and Lebanon and the terrorist populations.  And I just became obsessed with it to be honest with you Sid; I felt like every time I would sit down at my computer open it up and every morning before I went to work. I had a mortgage company at the time this was about 20 years ago I would realize listen Lord I can’t go anywhere without You inspiring me to find out where you want me to go.  And as I would think I need to pick up where I left off the day before I would go back into that section of scripture and the next thing you know I’d be out somewhere else where the Lord took me.It was just like a miraculous relationship with the Lord; being able to find things He always showed up, He always showed up and took me where He wanted me to go inside of the Bible.

Sid:Now when the towers toppled, 9/11 and you started doing a lot of your studies God literally gave you a clear message, what was that?

Bill:  Well, the message was, well it’s was interesting because I was wondering the world had questions when that happened.  You know what is this, is the Armageddon, I would be listening to the radio shows and there was a harvest that was developing right over there because of what was going on and pastors were going over there and they were preaching the gospel.  But no one was really coming up with a response to it and I had been deeply imbedded in studying this stuff.  I heard one pastor well, known pastor say “You need to focus on Ezekiel 38 and 39.”  And here’s what’s going on and Sid for your listeners that aren’t familiar with that maybe we’ll be talking about it, but that’s a Russian, Iranian, Turkey coalition comes against Israel in the ladder days.

Sid:And most people, most Christians think that’s the next big war on the horizon if you talk to them.  But you say “No.”

Bill: Right a lot of them do believe that it’s eminent and so I want to tell you my reasons why I say it’s not eminent, why it’s near but not next.  But that’s why this one pastor said “Keep your focus on that.”  And that was the best answer that I’d heard but I as I was saying just a moment ago it’s not about Russia, you know it was not about Russia, that was about terrorism.  And so what I realized is that the Bible has to say about how terrorism came into being from the Arab Israeli conflict, which is that conventional method of warfare that the Arabs adopted after their conventional warfare failures of 1948, ’67, and 1973.  And what became clear to me is what follows, this is going to come to a climatic Arab Israeli war that’s described in Psalm 83, and it’s going to put everything else in place.  Once that happens the Israel that Russia invades in Ezekiel 38 that dwells securely in the last days, and there is whole laundry list that I can tell that describes that Israel. Ezekiel is so descriptive, that Israel, will come into place, but that Israel is not in place right now, it’s not dwelling securely without wall, bars on our gates and receipt of great fortune because Russia comes, is coming after it’s plunder.  Now don’t get me wrong we know that Israel is blossoming and it’s discovering natural gas and it’s just amazing, that’s a miracle in itself.  But the Israel that Russia forms a coalition to come and invade for great plunder and booty dwelling securely it doesn’t exist and the reason it doesn’t exist right now is because of the very nations listed in Psalm 83 that surround Israel that want to wipe Israel off the map.  That’s through the mandate of Psalm 83 verse 4 that they would cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel would be remembered no more.

Sid:You know it’s interesting I have often pondered Ezekiel 38, 39 that Israel will be invaded for a plunder, my spiritual logic says “That means they have to be very very prosperous so there for if I was interested in investing which I’m not, but if I was I’d be investing in Israel.”

Bill: Well, I concur Sid, however, you know we need to think about this too, because I get asked that question quite a bit by my friends in finance also a lot of my Jewish friends.  And I say “I do believe there is a greater Israel coming, a greater, a safer Israel coming in the aftermath of the IDF victory over the Psalm 83 war.  But we have to remember that when that war takes place you’re investments and your holdings over there in Israel should you invest they could suffer.  And that’s not going to be real good there for a period of time when a war’s going on.  Now Israel wins and Israel can…

Sid:Yeah, but guess what take any country in the world they’re going to have rough times because yet once more I’m going to shake this earth and those that are not on a firm foundation there going to fall.  I want to read a quote of yours about terrorism.  It says “Terrorism is the ugly byproduct of the Arab-Israeli conflict and that the Bible speaks volumes about what follows,” explain.

Bill:  Well exactly and that’s the whole Psalm 83 scenario.The attitude that’s involved in Psalm 83 and I hope we have time to develop this Psalm this prophesy for your audience here.  But it’s ancient hatred that’s long standing that’s been developed in the religion of Islam that’s embracing the Middle East over there and they are going to want to come against Israel, they have tried to in those various wars I told you about since Israel became a nation.  It’s sort of suspended now but then there’s no peace talks going on nor will there probably be at this point because Israel is not going to concede land that’s acquired in 1967 which is becoming a precondition of the Palestinians wanting peace.

Sid:You know remember the uproar that occurred when President Obama said that “Israel has to go to their pre ’67 borders.”

Bill:  Well, yeah and President Netanyahu was over here speaking to our congress and saying “That’s not going to happen” and in an essence when he came over and spoke that to the Palestinians was a declaration of war for all intense and purposes because to them.they want that land.  They want the Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital and they want the West Bank and the Gaza and they want to bridge it and these…

Sid:And you know what bothers me Bill is that, well like let’s take one of the three DVD’s and your book that we’re offering, but take one of the DVD’s “The Roots of the Mideast Conflict.”  Number one, most people don’t know the historical order as to why there is such hatred today.  I mean it seems to me if I was a member of the State Department, if I was a Congressman, if I was a Senator, if I was in the Whitehouse, if I was on the Cabinet, if I don’t understand the roots of the mid-East conflict how could I possibly give confident advice?

Bill: Well, and that’s exactly it and that’s why for 6 decades plus now there’s been no resolution to the Arab Israel conflict and it’s getting worse.  And you know ultimately land for peace deals are not prescribed in the Bible here this is God’s land and Israel’s being brought back into it.The Arabs want the Israeli’s to recede rather they’re expanding after 1967 they almost tripled their size.  God said they’d be coming back into the land numerous prophesies.

Sid:Bill, we’ve just run out of time.  But what I want our Mishpochah to do is uncover the missing piece of prophesy, the next war in the Middle East.  The experts literally have over looked this and the fate of America when you understand this you’ll see the fate of America.