Sid Roth

Sid:  We’re getting ready Mishpochah to have the greatest Open Heaven the world has ever experienced and the Glory of God is going to come on us and when we speak we won’t have to confess, confess, confess, confess and believe and believe and believe because when God’s Glory shows up everything is instant.  And I have David Hertzog on the telephone and I’m interviewing him this week on his brand new book that’s just off the press “Glory Invasion.”  David in the book you said that you always knew if you could understand about how God created everything out of nothing it would be a key to what God wanted you to do and accomplish in your life.  It would be a key for you to understand all of how God’s faith dimension operates, explain.

David: Well, Hebrews 11:1 alludes to the fact that God created everything visible out of things invisible.  I was taught God created everything out of nothing.  And I always knew what if I could figure out how God could create something out of nothing then I could see incredible things happen that would just boggle the mind for the Lord.  And I caught a hold of Hebrews 11:1, wait a second He didn’t create everything out of nothing as I was taught in Sunday School, He created everything visible out of things invisible.  So I thought what are those invisible things that He used to create visible things, but they’re real things.  Genesis 1 it talks about the Spirit of God or the Glory or the presence or whatever you want to call it.  Hovering that’s invisible, most people most of the time you can’t see those we did in Miracle Valley, most of the time you can’t see the presence of God or the Glory you can sense it.  And the second thing was sound; He said “Let there be light.”  You can’t see sound but it’s a real thing even scientists know sounds exist and I just started getting this revelation about sound and the Glory of God that when the two merge together those two invisible ingredients it creates visible.  “Let there be light,” the Holy Spirit or the Spirit was hovering, God spoke and there was light and I started operating more and more in this realm of creative miracles from the invisible realm to the visible realm where you see a body part or you see something in the Spirit but then as you speak it out when the Glory’s heavy things are created it’s really really exciting.

Sid: You talk about literally science has even proven that the law of gravity can be suspended, what do you mean by that?

David: The smallest particle known to man; I’ll start with that and then I’ll have to explain your question; is a sound wave.  They usually thought it was a proton or a neutron and atom and now they’re saying even in quantum physics if you break down the smallest particle known to man it’s not even a proton, neutron, or an atom it’s sound, it’s sound vibration is the smallest building block of every atom, proton, neutron.  And that sound wave has ability to hear and respond which they’re founding out and so knowing that that the creation can hear and respond is created from sound then it’s a whole different element then you understand why Jesus spoke to the wind and waves and they obeyed Him, not just the demons the actual creation obeying His voice.  Why God told Moses to speak to the rock not just hit the rock, why Jesus had a conversation with a tree and got angry at the fig tree for not producing, how Elijah just commanded rain to come it’s a whole different aspect that when you understand the creation and what makes it tick and how it responds to then you start understanding now you have authority over even gravity or time or being transported.  Do you get the idea?

Sid:  I understand well, let’s take one of the chapters of your book, “Extreme Governmental Glory,” how does this principal operate in the realm of governments and leaders?

David: When you’re in the Glory of God there’s like I said it’s like Heaven on Earth and whatever you speak during that time what God tells you to say this or say that, it’s not like I’m confessing something to happen it’s boom it’s happening as you speak.  So I’ll give you an example I was on my way to Africa to do a big big evangelistic campaign and I’m in the plane and the Lord tells me the Glory comes upon me really strong and the Lord says to me “I want you to speak to the government.”  And I said, “How am I going to do that?”  He says “By speaking it right now in the airplane because My Glory is here right now whatever you speak right now is going to happen.”  It’s like strike the ground seven times right now and as many times as you strike it at this time right now you’ll have victory.  So I spoke it out loud I said, “In the Name of Jesus government open up right now to the Glory of God.”  As soon as I arrived the Pastor said “Is there anything I can do for you, here’s your hotel, here’s some food, get ready for the meetings tonight.  And then I said, “Yes I liked to speak to the government” and he looked at me really shocked so I didn’t push this subject; a few days later he calls me up and says, “I know it’s your night off but get dressed in two hours we’re going to the Vice President’s house, I hope you have a prophetic word for him.”  And I said, “What, how did this happen?”  He says “Don’t ask me,” I said, “No, tell me.”  He said, “Well, I told him you had a major prophetic word that was going to shake his life so he better listen to it.”  And he says, “You have a word don’t you?”  I said, “No, I didn’t think about what I was going to say if it happened.”  And so I had two hours to ask God for this man and I was nervous and I said, “God help me.”  And to make a long story short I got into his house into his living room began prophesying him and his wife began to weep like babies, anyways it’s a long story but God really changed his life and God invaded that man and the vice president of a country just by operating in the Glory.

Sid: Help me understand how would you define experientially the difference you said “When the Glory comes in you know that you can pronounce what God is showing you and it’s going to instantly happen.”  How do you know the difference between the glory and just a heavy anointing?

David: The difference is this, many times you’ll be in a meeting if you go to a lot of peoples’ meetings and they say revival meeting or healing meeting or whatever so you go and you don’t sense anything in the room special but obviously the man is preaching, he’s operating and he says okay we’re going to have a healing line for instance.  So you go up or you don’t even go up you watch others and say “Oh wow I think I’ve been healed praise God.”  So the gifts are operating but you’re not sensing the presence of the Glory in the entire room.  It may be on that one man preaching maybe, or it can just be anointing but it’s not in the entire atmosphere.  When the Glory comes in usually you sense it in the entire atmosphere as opposed to just inside the man of God.

Sid:  Well, you know what that’ll do it’s take the emphasis off the man and put it on God.

David: Exactly.

Sid: I like that idea!

David: Exactly and it makes your job easier because they’re not all looking to you to make it happen, they might be looking to you but you’re looking to God and God’s stretching out His hand.

Sid:  Now something you talk about in your book and you talk about wherever I hear you speak is the connection of Israel, and revival and signs and wonders, and even birthing your ministry.  Talk a little about that.

David: Sure, well in Roman’s 11 it talks about Israel or the Jewish people coming back into the gospel in a big way I mean there has always been Jewish people saved and they’re the first ones who brought salvation.  But it talks about in the last days when Israel comes back in it talks about a world revival.  So I got a hold of that scripture one day I was just asking God about my ministry Lord “What do You want me to do, how am I going to win the world.” When I was a missionary overseas to Europe and I just kind of struggling “Lord, what’s the key, what’s the secret if you can tell me one thing what would this key be for my ministry to win Europe and the world and America?”  And He said to me, “Bless Israel towards salvation and all I’ll bless any other nation that you put your hand to.”  And so that was a huge, huge, huge revelation for me and I was surprised that nobody else understood this revelation, pastors at the time this was years ago and I said, “Gosh, how come no one gets it?”  And they wouldn’t really, and I realized it was just a revelation that I had gotten from God.  Here I’ll just read the scriptures it says “If they’re stumbling has been blessing for the world and their failure rich for the Gentiles think what an enrichment or a great advantage will fall they’re full reinstatement.”  So it’s talking like why if they for a season some of the religious leaders missed Yeshua and God allowed Gentiles to have salvation, if they missed it we got this blessed, the church “How much more if they come back in; it’ll be as life from the dead or resurrection.”  And so that’s why I talk about Resurrection Glory in the sense of when Israel comes back into the gospel it’ll cause a new worldwide revival.  So when our ministry we always made a point to bless Israel, pray for Israel salvation, give towards ministries that are reaching out to the Jewish people or Israel and go to Israel and be a witness.

Sid: And you’re not you would not even want me to say this, but I was very impressed when we first met you started you and your wife started sowing into our ministry.

David: Well, we love your ministry you’re one of the few that are reaching lots of Jewish people with not just the gospel but with signs and wonders, or showing the supernatural part of God which is what you know the Bible says the Jews seek a sign.  So that’s why we like supporting you because you’re reaching them with signs showing that God’s a God of power not just a God of His Word.

Sid:  If people only understood there is such a key but I just love your book, where did you first start understanding the Glory because candidly David most Christians don’t have a clue; when you hear the Glory you hear it’s a word.

David: Yeah, I first… God began speaking to me about the Glory so I thought I had the Glory but I didn’t really fully operate in it.  I was doing a six month revival preaching on the Glory and actually that was one of the main messages and this revival broke out.  But then in 1999 of January the 2^nd I met Ruth Heflin she was a woman of God, very prophetic and she was probably the woman of God that was…I would call her an apostle of the Glory I mean she understood, she lived the Glory, she taught this revelation and just in my encounters with meeting her and being around her and having her invite me that’s really when this new Glory as we call it came upon my ministry through Ruth Heflin.

Sid: When you are in the Glory and you talk about it in your book all the things that happened you talk about deliverance is so much easier in the Glory, explain.

David: Oh, it’s so fun well if you’ve ever done deliverance you know how it can be where you’re praying for somebody maybe you’re trying to find the roots, and how did this demon get in here, were you abused, you can almost go though like a checklist like at a doctor’s office you know sign this release form and then we’ll…but then when the Glory begins to come suddenly it’s easy, you know.  Normally a lot of people shy away from deliverance because it sounds like demons and throwing up and screaming and all this kind and then the Glory sounds like “Awe the Heavenly realm and angels singing.”  So I always thought how do you merge the two together there’s got to be a way and I was in Africa one night preaching…

Sid:  I’ll tell you what, hold that thought we’ll find out about Africa on tomorrow’s broadcast.