Sid Roth

Sid:  You need not be ashamed with the atheistic education system that we have that with a country that won’t allow us to even post the Ten Commandments in government buildings and in schools.  And I am so concerned about the onslaught of within our education system and within our media to undermine the authenticity of the scriptures. That’s why I’ve asked my friend James Nienhuis to talk about his book “Old Earth Why Not?”  Because there are things that I personally took by faith, but I didn’t have the scientific evidence. This book would prepare anyone; as a matter of fact what about teachers, Christian teachers when these questions come up you would love to see his answers for the argument that the earth was started with a big bang, which caused the universe to be established billions of years ago. But Jim on yesterday’s show we were talking about the flood, and now let’s talk about the ark.  How in the world could we have so many animals and species and I mean the ark wasn’t big enough to have all of these animals, how would you explain that.

James:  Okay, before I broach that magnan… quote “magnanimous problem” let me cover one quick “magnanimous problem” also.  Noah’s flood did not cover the Himalaya Mountains rose at the close of the flood year.  Okay, that having been said, Noah’s Ark landed on the mountains of Ararat which are pillar basalts.  A lot much of it is pillar basalts and that’s a black lava rock that rises up through water; how do you like that Sid.

Sid:   They don’t teach that in high school and college I can tell you that. (laughing) I mean You would drive an atheistic professor nuts you know that Jim that’s why I want everyone to read your book.  So tell me about all those animals that fit in that little boat.

James:  Yes, and that the little boat 450’ long by 80’ wide by about 50 about the size of an ocean liner landed in the mountains of Ararat it doesn’t necessary say on Mt Ararat proper, it says in the mountains of Ararat.  So that’s a vast area of the eastern Turkey.  But that vessel had room to hold the 20,000 kinds of animals the Bible speaks, two of this kind, two of that kind, seven of a clean kind going on Noah’s Ark Biblical kinds.  Now the question is what is a kind in the Bible?  Well in modern scientific parlance it’s a syngameon, s-y-n-g-a-m-e-o-n, syngameon; that’s the biblical kind.  For instance a cat syngameon in the sense that, did you know this Sid lions and tigers and leopards can all inner breed to produce offspring.  Did you know that?

Sid:  No. (Laughing)

James:  Because they’re capable of that biologically that proves that they came from a common ancestor, it’s genetic variation within a syngameon or a biblical kind. Thereby only about 20,000 kinds of animals need have been on Noah’s Ark which would have only taken up half the volume of that Ark, about the size of an ocean liner.

Sid:    Now let me ask you a question, have you been coaching Bill O’Reilly or has he been coaching you on these words?  I’m just teaching, don’t…(laughing).

James:  Sid this is big I actually maybe I’m maybe I’m the first young earth creationist to discover this term in the high hierarchy of the esoteric of Darwinian biology, but it pulls the lid off the whole concept.  They have this term syngameon which explains why creatures from different “species” can inner bread and produce offspring. You know what that does to the viability of the term species according to Darwin Sid?  Species is thereby a meaningless term because different “species” can inner breed to produce offspring like the lion, the tiger, the leopard which proves they all came from a common ancestor.

Sid:  This is so fascinating and you know something I was reading in your book that I was also aware of changing the subject just a little bit.  But the Chinese language very few people are familiar that in the little letters of the Chinese language we literally have many of the stories found in Genesis.  Now if China is as old as they say it is how come those accounts were in its formation of its language?

James:  Oh absolutely,  we’ll Ham a son of Noah was undoubtedly a great navigator and he settled and his progeny settled much of the world, you know Shem settles mostly in western Asia and eastern Europe and Japheth settled mostly in Europe proper western Europe.  And Ham was a great navigator and he sailed to many locations and settled there including China. Cam, Cambodia; Cam or Kem as the Egyptians call him Kem or Cam Gulf of Cambay India; Cambodia southeast Asia; that’s Ham he was a great navigator also who was known as Chronos the time man because he could measure and map the earth by measuring the wobble of the  earth’s axis which is a whole another story.  But anyway the progeny of Ham settled in China obviously with knowledge of the ancient, not ancient at that time the stories about Noah’s Ark symbol for boat in the ancient Chinese pictographs is a concave form with eight dots in it.  How many people were on Noah’s ark?  Eight people, the ancient symbol for righteousness or righteous in the ancient Chinese pictographs is the symbol for I and that is me or you Sid under the pictograph for lamb; under the lamb, am righteous.

Sid:  Whoever wrote the Chinese alphabet knew or who ever created it knew all the accounts of Genesis even in a prophetic sense from what you’re telling me.

James:  Oh, absolutely you know and that a Messiah would come who would bruise the evil one.  You know that’s replete in ancient literature as well Osiris and Horus for instance of the ancient Egyptians, which is actually an analogy for the rotation of the planets.  The sun setting and rising everyday that’s a Sirus and Horas but that is what they were referring to a Savior who would; who all the ancients cultures were aware of this prophecy first thing in the Bible or in the early portions of Genesis.  See it’s all mankind and all the ancient tribes have a global flood legend as well; now why a global flood legend?  Why not a global fire legend or why not a global you know hurricane legend?  Why did they all have a global flood legend?  It’s more than coincidence.

Sid:  How old is the earth?

James:  Oh, roughly 6,000 years old.

Sid:  How can you say that with all this scientific evidence showing that things are much older?

James:   Well, when you understand that the Dane methods are flawed and based upon ennoble predisposition; such as what the original chemistry of the rock was.  They don’t know what the original chemistry of the rock was; which is a presupposition of the Dane method, but they don’t know that.

Sid:  So is it the blind leading the blind?

James:  Absolutely, they say the composition of the rock when the rock was formed is what they want it to be.  Now if you want to call that science go ahead and call that science.  Now couple that with the sedimentary stadia for the sedimentary layers; vast sedimentary layers with billions of creatures in tombed therein from a flood forming the fossils which we see today 99% of which are marine creatures up on the continents explain that one.  So you couple that the geology speaks of catastrophe with the fact that the Dane methods are seriously flawed and based upon ennoble precepts and presuppositions.

Sid:  But wait a second when I went to Kenya I saw the Leakey Museum and this Leakey Museum they have monkey’s going back millions of years.

James:   Really.

Sid:  Well, that’s what the museum curator told me.

James:  But there’s no evidence of it except the radioisotope days which are flawed and based upon ennoble precipitations, for instance sometimes rock dates come in with positive values like I said before.  Now what kind of science is that?

Sid:  Well, why doesn’t the scientists realize what your book shows in such simple form?

James:   Well, if they acknowledge that the geologic column is obviously caused by a catastrophe which caused all the disposition of all those eroded sediments stacked like pancakes on the continent .  If they admit that that obviously is the case, then they are doomed to say “Well, the Bible is right all along.”  And then we’d have some serious altar calls at Yale and Harvard and Princeton and the whole bit and I think that they probably don’t want to see that Sid.  The way they’re faking it now anyway.

Sid:  And the thing I see you actually have an ulterior motive and your ulterior motive in this book is after, you explain and you just knock the socks off of these scientists that are trying to disprove the accounts in the book of Genesis.  After you explain it you’ve got a very very interesting chapter in here and the title is “Jesus was just a Wise and Good man.”  And these are myths that you’re disclaiming, but you take someone through to salvation, is that really the intent of the book.

James:  Absolutely, you know God provided me sufficient faith to become born again to burn through all the Darwinian junk that I had learned and still become born again.  But imagine how easy it would be for a guy who says “My goodness Genesis really does look like an accurate history book?”  Then how much easier would it be to act on the faith that God gives everyone?