Sid Roth

Sid:  I have David Herzog on the telephone, and David is known as a Jewish believer that walks in the glory of God.  And I want to find out from him exactly what the glory of God is, how the glory of God operates and how he learned this.  I’m going to take you back to age thirteen David and you went to a youth camp, a Spirit filled youth camp.  And now were you prayed for to speak in supernatural languages or did it just happen?

David:  It just happened I was supposed to be prayed for I was waiting in a very long line of hundreds of people to make my way to the front where they pray for you. Before I got there it had already hit me, this warmth came on me, this love, I just felt peace, and I started crying a little bit and then all of a sudden I started speaking in tongues.  I had no idea how that was going to happen it just happened and then I saw that vision.  I was taken up to Heaven; I saw Jesus and the Father, and then a voice came and said, “You’re going to travel, you’re going to travel, you’re going to travel around the world.”  So at that I had a little bit inkling, I said “Okay, so I’m going to travel,” so that I know and went into my room and I couldn’t stop speaking in tongues all night just getting these visions.

Sid:  Just out of curiosity I assume you didn’t want to but did you actually try to stop?

David:  Not really it felt so good you know when you’re thirteen and your feeling great.

Sid:  But how’s a thirteen year old pray in tongues all night, that had to be highly unusual thing.

David:  It was but it was really, really powerful but that night a lot of people got the Holy Spirit it was just amazing.  I’d always wanted to receive it for three years since I was saved, didn’t know how or what, and finally went to a place where I could get it and it was just.  And my boldness changed, I used to be shy and suddenly this boldness came on me that I never had before with people, with everything; it affected everything.

Sid:  Now you literally were caught up into the throne room and it was a number of years ago, but what did you see, I’d be very curious to know?

David:  I saw, basically two seats where I was, I saw Jesus at the right hand and I saw the Father, I couldn’t make out clearly because it was so bright, the Father but I knew that was Jesus on the right side.  And basically Jesus was smiling at me and a voice just came and said, “You’re going to travel for My glory, you are going to travel.”  And I was just worshipping and “I love You God and I love You Jesus and I worship You and just tongues, tongues, tongues for hours.”

Sid:  Interesting, God knew what He was saying, you didn’t have a clue “You’re going to travel for His glory and you’re known as someone that when you speak the glory of God shows up.”  But you didn’t have a clue back then.  Tell me the first miracle that happened when you prayed for someone that you can remember.

David:  Yeah, I was in Sunday school and they asked me to teach this little curriculum in our Sunday school in our little town in Sedona. So I would go through little thing and read the scriptures they tell me to read for the kids and I got bored, actually got bored doing this every Sunday.  So I said “Kids don’t tell the Pastor but I’m going to try something different, I’m not going to follow the curriculum I’m just going to pray for anyone that’s sick.”  And a little girl said, “Oh, my Mom said I have scoliosis.”  And so I said, “Let me see, let’s pull out your leg and see how short it is,” because I had seen one time someone come and do this and her leg was so much shorter than the other.”  I said, “Okay, we’re going to pray guys are you ready?”  And I missed my first miracle because I closed my eyes and her leg began to grow so fast the kids were screaming, “Look at the leg, look at the leg!”  And her leg grew out and I missed seeing my first miracle with my own eyes.

Sid:  But what happened to her scoliosis?

David:  It was gone, I mean her leg grew out and she didn’t have a problem after that.

Sid:  What a way to start!  You know how I started?  I prayed for hundreds, if not thousands of people and no one got healed, I sure wish I had started the way you did!

David:  I guess I needed the encouragement for being so young you know.

Sid:  Well, let’s go back to basics; the glory shows up when you speak, explain what the glory is.

David:  The glory is the closes you can get to being like as if you went to Heaven while still being on the earth.  You’re in a meeting and you feel this incredible heavenly presence, joy, peace, love, you can feel the angels are there.  Your just like “Awe, this is heaven on earth” and in that realm that’s when things happen so easily.   I always say “On earth as it is in Heaven” if you were sick and you went to Heaven right now, how long would it take to be healed?  It would be instant because in Heaven there’s no sickness; so when heaven comes down on the earth in a meeting or just walking down the street and you pray for somebody the speed at which miracles happen in the glory realm is much faster than they would happen just in regular gifting realm.  You have your gift and anointing, you have faith but when you add glory to it glory is the accelerator.  Demons come out faster; body are healed faster, you sow and reap faster, everything’s faster when it’s done in the presence of God’s glory.

Sid:  Now is this just a pure gift from God or are there something’s that you’ve learned that people can do to walk in that same glory realm?

David:  Oh no, everyone can do this it’s God gave me a revelation of how it operates and when I’ve taught this to other people I’ve had little kids doing it.  One time I was in Ireland, miracles, signs and wonders were flowing and I taught these youth, youth and college age and everything I knew how to do it and when that thing was over it spread all over Ireland and started in healings and miracles and signs, wonders and everything you can think of started happening.

Sid:  When was the first time you’re aware of the fact that when you would speak this manifests tangible presence, thickness, weightiness of God’s presence would show up His glory?

David:   The first time that happened?  Wow, that’s a tough one to think, going back I know that it changed when my intimacy with God changed, it wasn’t just…

Sid:  Alright, well that’s important to know, tell me when that was and what you did to cause it to change or what occurred.

David:  I was living on the mission field in France for twelve years and we had seen you know, I had the gift of faith, I had the gift of healing.  I prayed one on one and I say right now this man will be healed if he doesn’t get healed then God is not God.  And God would heal, but I was getting burned out and I said, “Lord there’s got to me more.”

Sid:  Oh, I’m sorry you’re triggering another question, when you would make such a bold statement were there times when people were not healed?

David:  Amazingly enough I would only do it when I felt led to do it and when I did it it always worked, but I would never do it carelessly.

Sid:    But even if you heard did you have a degree of trepidation when you have a room full of people that could become a mob against you?

David:  Oh, big time I would say “Lord, every time I did it I’d say “Oh my gosh, I think I went out too far on a limb this time, Lord you got to bail me out of this one.”  But God would show up, but sometimes it would be really scary.

Sid:  Okay, alright you were telling me what was happening in France.

David:  Yes, and so I was just desperate, I said “God there’s got to be more, I mean we’re winning people, but not at the rate that we need; I need to see more of Your glory, more of Your power.”  And so basically I took off some time and I just began to fast and pray and I just stopped preaching for awhile, stopped ministering, and I said “Lord if you don’t touch me with something new I’ll come up there and get it, but I don’t want to minister anymore.”  So I just stopped ministering, I just stopped taking, I just locked myself in for a couple months.  Three weeks of those months I was fasting and praying, just seeking God and during that time worshipping and fasting and praying and something, something came on me.  And then sure enough after that time we had I think we took six weeks off and the Lord told me those six weeks that you took off to seek My face led to the six month revival that you had in Paris, France the longest running revival in fifty years.

Sid:  Now, now for those that aren’t familiar, Paris, France is not known for being a real open spiritual place, in fact it’s known as a graveyard.  What happened in Paris?

David:  In Paris, France I told the church to do like what I did, I said, “Okay I’ll come but I want you to do a fasting and prayer chain forty days.  Because when you fast something happens in the Heavenlies like Daniel you know, the angel came and ministered,” and so I had them do that.  I was praying preparing myself and then by the time we showed up the Heavens exploded so powerfully, people ran to the altars to be saved, healings and miracles, signs and wonders flow like honey and a girl was picked up off of the ground some will call it she levitated but we’ll use the Christian term she arose, arise and shine.  She was picked up off the ground in mid air about thirteen, I guess someone measured it, they said that it was about thirteen centimeters in the air, flipped over still in the air and came back down to the ground and she was interceding for souls, she was an intercessor kind of heavyweight girl too.  And the people around were freaked out when they saw it, but it was at that moment that the glory came and all of a sudden all these people that had suicidal spirits started screaming and getting delivered, and so it was amazing.  Girl’s being lifted up…

Sid:  You know what’s coming to me as you’re saying that David, that’s a foretaste of the Messiah says that when He returns He’ll return to same way He came.  How did that, the same way that He left, He left by going up in the air in a cloud and I believe we’re going to be seeing more and more people; even people flying in front of other people, not just dreams.

David:  I have dreams of that all the time, I can’t wait.

Sid:  Well, it’s going to happen, I believe that it’s going to happen that’s why you’re having those dreams.  But tell me the feedback of your revised book “Glory Invasion,” what do people comment, is there on particular chapter that people say “Boy that revolutionized my life!”

David:  Oh while, there’s different chapters that they love, they love the first few chapters because what happens is I use vocabulary to explain how God’s glory moves.

Sid:  I have to tell you when I read that it didn’t cause me to believe any more than I believe, but it did give me understanding of what I believe.

David:  Yeah, it gives you revelation for instance if you’re praying for let’s say a body part to be recreated and you don’t know how to pray, normally you just say “Oh, Lord please do this.”  But when you have the revelation you get in the glory and you realize in the book I explain that everything created has atoms and protons and neutrons inside that it’s sound waves that God put sound into everything; this is confirmed by science.  And those sound waves God put in Genesis He put sound and you command the body part modes come together, cancer die, I know you can hear me because you’re made of atoms and inside the atoms there’s sound and I know that you can hear me.  So you’re going straight to the chase, straight to the body part like Moses spoke to the rock or God told him to anyway.  Ezekiel spoke to the bones and they came together, Jesus spoke to wind and waves; but once you understand behind the scenes what’s going on it actually helps your faith to go wait a second I can speak to body parts and they can actually hear me.

Sid:  David, were out of time right now.