Sid Roth

Sid:  I have a good friend of mine that I’ve ministered with many times over the years his name is David Herzog; when I think of David Herzog I think Jewish, love for the Jew in Israel; the glory of God.  And you know David I’m having the thought I believe it’s in Romans 9 it says “We owe a debt of gratitude to the Jewish people,” and then it lists a number of reasons.  And one of the reasons it says “Of them is the glory,” have you ever pondered on that?

David:  Yeah, I believe the Jews have somehow in their DNA a realm of the glory of God that comes out; because in our DNA is the record of everything that our ancestors did good and bad, and they have a record in their history and bloodline of the glory.  Their bloodline has been impacted by the glory of God probably more than other race.

Sid:  But I still feel that there is kind of like a comingling of the glory on a Gentile Christian, and the glory on a Jewish believer in Jesus and then the two; and it’s like the two are incomplete until the two are comingled to make a full dwelling place of God by His Spirit, or as Jesus said “You’ll do the same works I have done; when  he talked to the Jewish believers, and He said, “Greater,” looking forward to the time there’d be this comingling of this spiritual DNA of the Jew and the Gentile.

David:  I totally agree with you in fact I notice Jewish people that minister that when they go to other countries or go to other races they see the most incredible, incredible things.  Lately He gave me a similar revelation of what you just said and okay a couple of years ago He told me that now I want you as a Jewish person go the Arabs; when those two mingle together it really will explode and the fruit will be awesome.  I started going to Muslim countries being Jewish, and I saw just different harvests, different levels of glory that I wouldn’t see anywhere else.

Sid:  Well, I happen to believe the greatest representation of the one new man on planet earth today is a Jew and a Muslim, one new creation, one new man; one new being in Jesus.

David:  Amen.

Sid:  Okay David, I want to take you back for those especially aren’t that familiar with you back around Bar mitzvah time age time age thirteen. You had an encounter in the spirit realm that changed your life forever.  Tell me about that.

David:  It was amazing I was at the Assemblies of God youth camp in Arizona, Prescott Arizona. They said, “If you want the Holy Spirit come on up.”  So there’s a big big line and you wait in line and you make the way towards the altar and they pray for you and things happen.  And as I was waiting to get to the front the guy in front of me already speaking in tongues and weren’t even half way up there and he starts crying and weeping.  And I didn’t know what it was so I said, I’m only thirteen and my friend is crying and he’s a guy right, and I said “Are you okay, does it hurt? What does it feel like?  Is it painful?  I had no idea.  He said, “No, no it’s wonderful.”  And I said “Well, why are you crying?” I couldn’t understand so I just lifted my hands just waiting for it and soon enough the power of God hit me; it was like a warmth that went all over my body and I started speaking in tongues before they even prayed for me.  And then instantly I was taken up to Heaven and I was taken to the throne.

Sid:  Now before that point, I’m just curious; before that point had you ever had something where God literally came upon you in a tangible fashion like that?

David:  No, because I got saved at ten years old and I kept questioning my salvation I said “There’s got to be more than this, this is good but how come I don’t have power?”  And of course I was living in a town where there was a lot of New Age people that claim to levitate and do all these things.  So I was telling my mother, “Mom, there’s got to be more, how come they have that and we have no power?”  I would ask my Sunday School teacher, I would get in trouble.

Sid:    You know that’s an honest fair question and I think more Christians have to ask that question, “Why do so many New Agers move in power and so many Christians are fighting the devil with both arms tied behind their back because they’re more interested in tradition then the word of God.”

David:  Exactly and I got my Sunday school teacher upset with me because he said that I was bothering the class by asking those kind of questions.  It wasn’t a Spirit Filled church at the time and they called my mom and told me that your son is asking questions that are bothersome; just tell him he’s saved and that’s it.  So we changed churches and eventually went to that youth camp and it changed my life.

Sid:  Alright, what happened, I’m really curious because I see how you are today; I see what you’re doing today, but that is the beginning and I want to trace how you got to be walking in what I consider some of the most outrageous miracles on the planet.  I mean I got a report that you were recently at a meeting and a friend of mine was at the same meeting, and he literally saw someone with gray hair, their hair changed color on the spot.  But you even are involved in more outrageous things than that; you have people without hair that when the glory invades hair starts growing; in fact your own father that happened to.

David:  Yeah, it did; that was in Denver revival we had in ’08, but even last week the one that you’re mentioning there was another man also in that meeting that had bald hair and his hair began to grow also up there in Moravian a week ago.

Sid:  Okay, I’m going to go back to my question I have not forgotten it about that experience David had, but I want your opinion on something.  When the glory hits, because I’ve been at your meetings and I’ve seen this; when the glory hits and you proclaim what the Spirit God is telling you these things happen.  Why does it happen for some people and not for all?  What is your explanation?

David:  Why does some people receive miracles or why does some…

Sid:  Yeah, why when the glory is there and you proclaim that word and they all look like they’re believing to me as I look around; why is it that some get their miracles but the majority don’t get their gray hair turned brown, their bald head their hair growing?  What is the common denominator or is there a common denominator; I don’t know?

David:  That’s an interesting question; well I notice two patterns.  There is either the people when they testify will say, like when the lose thirty pounds in a meeting; we’ve seen weight lose and they said, “I was expecting all week long, I brought my smaller jeans from school and I got my miracle.”  So you have those that are very, very desperate full of faith.  Then I see the others that like the guy who had the white hair he didn’t believe it; he wasn’t even there to get a miracle.

Sid:  Well, that’s outrageously unfair, the guy didn’t have any faith, (laughing.)

David:  I think I noticed a difference, to some of these signs and wonders God will put for the unbeliever; I’ve seen atheist get gold teeth in France that complete don’t believe God exists.  And so I’ve noticed that God will use signs and wonders to win the lost that don’t know him or for believers, I’ve noticed when they are really full of faith and desperate, more of those kind of Christians are getting the miracles and the ones that have almost no faith at all because this man that got his, he’s a doctor so his mind is trained to not believe, and he’s also an ambassador to another country.  So he kept saying “Are you sure this is happening, is this really happening?  And the whole crowd was screaming , “Look at your hair!”

Sid:  You know what amazes me and it’s right in line with what you’re saying David?  The people that have a major miracle happen I hear many of them say “I knew when I would come to this meeting, I’d be healed.”  I don’t hear them say, “I was really believing for it,” they say “I knew I was going to be,” that’s faith.

David:  Yeah, that’s what I’ve noticed in the ‘50’s revivals people would come from across the country to go to these tent meetings and just knew that they were going to get healed, the ones that got healed.  And then you’ve got the unbelievers or the Christians that never really had faith for miracles and God will use the signs…

Sid:  Or the Christians that have been in the way for thirty years, and I do mean in the way, for thirty years and not seen anything, they believe, they know God heals, they’ve seen enough miracles, but they’re in unbelief and they don’t even realize they’re in unbelief.

David:  Sometimes they’ve been vaccinated against it because they’ve seen so much of it.  I was in London, it was a 1500 people and an atheist man got out of his wheelchair paralyzed and started running.  And at the end of meeting a Christian came to me and said, “Oh, when are you going to pray for my goiter?”  It was like midnight at about that time, I said, “I called that out, why didn’t you come up with God was moving?  Oh, I don’t know I decided to wait to after I’d meet you at the door when you leave the room.”  And I said, “I can pray for you now but you should have came when the glory was at the peak when everybody was getting healed.”

Sid:  Yeah, people don’t understand but one of the things, one thing that David does, and I’m sure the Holy Spirit showed him to do it is when the glory invades, and he starts hearing what God wants to do in the midst of the glory he speaks it out.  And then he tells people to run around the auditorium, I mean you don’t have to run like a track star, but you kind of run and what you’re doing it’s obvious to me David is your getting an action behind the faith.

David:  Exactly just some kind of action, most of time Jesus, Yeshua would say “Oh, do this, do that, go wash your eyes, pick up your bed and walk,” most of the time there was an action.  Now you don’t have to do that but I noticed the percentage of miracles go up to like 100% or 80% when I get everybody doing something than just everybody just sitting there waiting for me to make it happen on them.

Sid:  Alright David, on tomorrow’s broadcast I want to start out what happened when you were thirteen years of age, you spoke in tongues, but something way beyond that happened.  You went up to the throne room, but tell me about your book “Glory Invasion” this is the revised version which has this marvelous forty day devotional in it.  But tell me what feedback you’re getting from your book “Glory Invasion.”

David:  Oh, people are reading the book, first of all they’re not just reading it and learning, they’re getting Heavenly encounters they tell me.  I have people reading the book and getting taken to Heaven, getting signs and wonders.  I have ministers reading the book and suddenly when they go minister they understand how to move in creative miracles; how to work with the angels; just people reading, one lady read the book, she was on your show actually before she was in full time ministry.  She read the book, came to my meeting in Phoenix, didn’t know how to pray for her mom in a wheelchair and then when she read the book, she goes “Awe now I know how to pray; I get in the glory the body parts can obey my word, they hear me, spoke to her mom and she jumped out of the wheelchair.”  I think it was Katy Soza that was in our meeting and then later I hear about her traveling and ministering.  But she came to that meeting.  Years ago she took a Greyhound bus and came all the way to Phoenix.

Sid:  She was hungry!  You know David, you know what I love about it is that you teach about how the financial miracles increase in the glory.  How the healing miracles increase in the glory, how creative miracles increase in the glory; how to be a carrier of the glory; how to remove the limits in your life to operate in the glory; how to pray from your heavenly seat, which is an amazing revelation.  And so many people are moving in the glory after reading this book and we have a special bonus of two CD’s in which you speak the blessings of the glory over people.