Sid Roth

Sid:  Well, my guest Brenda Kunneman, red hot is understatement for her.  Brenda, are you seeing in your ministry an increase in the miraculous?

Brenda: Absolutely Sid and I just want to say thank you for allowing me to be with you today on the program.  But you used the word the word understatement.  I can’t even tell you the occurrences of the supernatural things of God.  I think were living in a supernatural season where God is wanting, it’s His heart, He’s hungry to manifest himself through the most unusual signs, wonders, miracles.  I’m seeing an increase of it; I hear reports across the world seeing increase of it.  But more than that is that this has been God’s heart from the beginning to manifest signs and wonders in the life of every single believer.  That’s His heart, that’s his total pivotal moment is for Him to fill the life of every believer everywhere so that they can manifest their own miracles and I love that.

Sid:  I recently interviewed your husband, Hank Kunneman and he is known for his prophecies on a national basis, on an international basis, literally affecting countries, destinies, but he said to me that you really have developed your gift of personal prophecy.

Brenda:  Yes and one of the things God has used me in as of late is to give the pulse, specifically for the church and where the Christian is and you know Christian’s function, but in the middle of that is to speak into the life of Christians.  But mostly though so that God, through the power of the Holy Spirit can empower them to be used in signs, wonders and miracles.  And so I love to let the Holy Spirit and prophecy to that.  A lot of times when I minister to people I will see a prophetic destiny over them.  You know God will say things like, you know, he will give them a name.  Your name is none in Heaven, or I see you as or like Peter’s name was Rock, I see you as Rock; well God will speak a word and usually it’s their destiny.  I’ll see the word Pastor written over their head, I’ll see the word…

Sid:  Excuse me, because I’m really fascinated by this.  You said you see the word Pastor written over their head.  Do you literally see this or you sense it?

Brenda:  You know, it just depends; I’ve had times where I saw it flash, sometimes it will look like a shadow; and a lot of times you know of course you probably hear this all the time; people have trouble describing their supernatural occurrences because…and I’d like to talk about that for a minute because sometimes the most supernatural things appear very natural and we confuse them with the natural unless you tune yourself to the supernatural.  So sometimes if you’ve learned to tune yourself to supernatural, what is the most natural will be seen, it will be supernatural; so sometimes I’ll see that shadow, I’ll see a flash, sometimes I’ll hear the words I’ll hear the words boom out from out from within me or I, so sometimes it’s come in different ways, but I’ve learned how to tune the ear to that.  So I won’t go wow, did I just think that or was that an accident?  And I noticed that the more you tune yourself to those things and you practice it, if I can use that word, if you practice it the more pronounced it becomes. 

Sid:  Isn’t it interesting that my perception always was well a gift is a gift, but what I have found is that gifts develop.

Brenda:  Yes, absolutely and this is where God wants his people to be right now because every believer, I was having a time of prayer this was some years ago and I said, “Oh God, you know I want to have this face to face experience the way Moses did.  I want to see you; and the Spirit of God spoke up in me and He said, listen to what I have to say, he said, Moses would have dreamed to have what you have.”  And I thought Lord, oh My God what are you saying to me.  Moses would have dreamed!  And He said, it is my intent that every Spirit Filled believer, every Spirit Filled Believer is to be a walking Tabernacle of Power, a walking Tabernacle.”  When Moses left the mountain or the Tabernacle of Meeting, when he left that, he left the presence, so when he went down, he knew that’s why in Exodus 33 he said, “God I beseech you, I beg you show me Your Glory!”  Well, a few verses earlier it said, He had spoke to God face to face.  If you study that out it really means he was in the presence of God, not that he looked upon God’s face.  He was inGod’s presence and what was he still hungry for?  What was he still craving after all of that to say “God, I beg You, show me Your glory.”  He knew that whenever he walked out of that place he felt alone.  He was separated from the presence of God.  And the Lord began to show me through scripture, this is laced throughout the Old Testament, we see it in the Bible in John 7:37 and 38 that we are to be that Tabernacle of Power.  We are in the presence, Moses had to leave the presence when he left the Tabernacle; I have that presence when I go to the grocery store.  And so, if I’m walking into go get gas in my car, or if I go to the supermarket; there is miracle power ready to operate.

Sid:  Brenda, give me a real life example of that in your life.

Brenda:  Well, let me encourage this in a personal way, I had a story in fact I put this in my book, “The Supernatural You.”  I teach people how to have everyday experiences with the supernatural.  See this is really, really important because people look sometimes for the sensational and they miss the supernatural.  And God’s wanting to manifest it every minute.  We had, and this is kind of a humorous story, but I want to give people a real life example; we had been having these nights of restless sleep, my husband and I and I could not figure it out and of course in the church world we always turn it into this big thing. You know, well the demons have come to try to disrupt us and there’s interference and we come up with all these creative things and I said, “Lord all I know is that I have got to start getting some rest, we  have too much to do in the ministry.”  And so I prayed in the Spirit and we went to bed that night and I had a dream, now if I have a dream, whenever I have a dream I know that it’s from the Lord, it is just one of those, I don’t dream a lot but it’s a message from God.  And I had a dream and I saw myself go to the store and buy pillows and I woke up in the morning.  The Holy Spirit said, you need to get new pillows.  And I said to my husband, I said, honey it’s our pillows.  He’s like what?  So Ha, see now see this is that the supernatural can look very natural.  You’ve got to be sharp, have a sharp eye to the Spirit and so I said, “I cancel whatever I have, I’m going pillow shopping right now.”  That’s how supernatural it was, and I went to the store and I thought that’s it, God I’m going to pay whatever and I went to a discount store and they had only one of the good pillows left and the rest were $5.00 and they were nothing.  And I was like, oh God, I’m trying to buy prophetic pillows here and they didn’t have any.  I went to another store and found four, I walked up to the place, I found four pillows.  Walked up to the place to buy the four and the lady at the counter she told me, “Oh I heard these were you know I prayed in tongues the whole time I went to buy the pillows because I knew that these were prophetic pillows.  Now the lady at the store said, “Now, I just want you to know that these pillows are so, these pillows are the best pillows, I have heard the best feedback from these, I love these pillows, in fact I bought some for myself, she said I went to the other store and she name the pillows I was going to buy at the other store, they didn’t have enough.  And she said that they were to worst pillows ever.  Here’s the thing, God will manifest, and we got the pillows, in fact I got them home, we got the pillows, we had perfect sleep, never woke up with another headache.  We weren’t restless; we weren’t waking up with circles under our eyes the next day.  It was the pillows and see God will zero in if you allow yourself to be used in the supernatural.  God will zero in on something to us as trivial as pillows.  But the way that the anointing came and manifested, it felt at the time pretty ordinary and so over something very ordinary and those ordinary occurrences seeing the supernatural in the most ordinary thing can be the very thing that leads to the bigger things.  And so that, from there I realized, no God you have a place for every believer to manifest the miraculous in everything they do.  There is something that you want to impart and provide, that’s why were filled with the Holy Ghost, because He’s that supernatural river of supply and see this is, I have kind of a concern I guess, it bothers me when people in the occult world are more aware of the realm of the supernatural than the church and we’re the ones that carry the Holy Spirit.

Sid:  You know that one thing that if I was kind of summarize what someone will accomplish when they read your book “The Supernatural You,” first of all there is such a presence of God upon it, but you will convince that person that that same power that is on the people they see on TV on Christian Shows dwells within them.  You convince people of that, it’s ashamed that we have to be convinced, but you convince someone.  What’s the feedback that you get from people, I know that it’s a new book, but the feedback from people that have read your book or sat under this teaching?

Brenda:  One of the things that people say, I love to impart this phrase into peoples’ lives I love to walk up and say to them, repeat after me say “I am anointed.”  And people say “I am anointed.”

Sid:  Wait, wait, I want to do this.  “I am anointed.”

Brenda:  “I am anointed,” it does something to you doesn’t it Sid?

Sid:  It does, I understand before you even preach, you start doing that type of talk.

Brenda:  I speak to myself, in fact I share this story in the book too.  I was getting ready to do a meeting somewhere and in fact I started doing this after this, the Lord said, “Pray in tongues, you know because what we have to understand is and we probably need to kind of give the listeners a little premise of this but you know the Bible says, “Out of your belly,” your belly and notices that it didn’t say somebodyelse’s, It doesn’t say the TV evangelist or anybody, He said, “Your belly shall flow rivers,” rivers, that’s plural, more than one.  That means there is a different river for everything, I believe there is a river for finances, I believe that there’s a river that deal with disease, I believe there’s a river that will deal with emotional pain, that will deal with loneness, that will deal with addiction, that will deal with…

Sid: Oh evay!   It won’t deal with our lack of time right now.