Sid Roth

SID: My guest will show you shock video footage of a woman who was groomed from birth to be a bride of Satan. Before her supernatural encounter with God her eyes were completely black, no whites showing, and she had occult power to open doors without touching them.

Can ancient secrets of the supernatural be rediscovered? Do angels exist? Is there life after death? Are healing miracles real? Can you get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 30 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has been on It’s Supernatural previously, Darren Wilson. He comes from a nice evangelical, non-supernatural background, and he filmed from all over the world the most supernatural film you’ll ever see. It’s called “Finger of God” and I’ll never forget, what was it? Was it your aunt that got the gold, too?

DARREN: My aunt and uncle.

SID: At that time in your paradigm of what is Christianity, that must have rocked your world.

DARREN: Yeah, I didn’t know what to do with it. I still, to be honest with you, I still don’t know what to do with it. I mean, and I think they’re still kind of shocked by that.

SID: If I was going to cast someone in the role of filming the supernatural, it would be you. It would. God did a good job. You did a good job.

DARREN: Well thank you.

SID: And I love the story. I mean, here this guy doesn’t believe in the supernatural. So his whole family goes out to the Toronto Airport Church where there’s a move of God’s spirit, and he goes reluctantly. And a guy gets up and he starts saying, “There’s an angel inside this auditorium.” What did you think?

DARREN: I thought he was either crazy or lying. I thought when are they gonna pass the basket to give this guy money. And it was just one of those things where I’m just, I’m like, this is why I don’t like this place. This is why I don’t like this type of Christianity or whatever. I just wasn’t comfortable and I just didn’t think it was true.

SID: But then what happened?

DARREN: Then I met him. I met this angel who, about five minutes later, I had my eyes closed and the angel passed right by me, and I opened my eyes. I didn’t see anything. Closed my eyes, there he is. And he came up to me and he spoke to me, and he asked me three times, “Are you ready?” And I didn’t really know what he was talking about. I knew that about five months before I had kind of patented this idea to make this little movie about the strange things that Christians believe. And he said, “Are you ready?” three times. And I said yes, not knowing exactly what I was saying yes to. And the third time I said, “Ready for what?” And he said, “Make that movie.” And that was kind of what pushed out the door. I thought I was making a little short film and it turned into something bigger.

SID: And I have to tell you, I saw that movie. I loved that movie. In fact, I’m in that movie. But I expected the next movie to be the same type of movie. And actually, when I heard the title I said, “Hmmm, ‘Furious Love’”. I wonder what Darren is up to. And so you met a mutual friend of ours, Heidi Baker, and she prophesied something over you.

DARREN: Yeah. That’s what started this one. I was actually had just finished filming “Finger of God” and we were in Istanbul, Turkey, and was just worried about how I was gonna put this “Finger of God” together. The last thing on my mind was any kind of a sequel or follow up, or anything. And so she started to pray for me because I was starting to kind of freak out a little bit, because I had all this footage and I didn’t know what to do with it. So she’s praying for me and right in the middle of her prayer she gets really uncomfortable, and I’m not used to seeing Heidi uncomfortable. She’s usually pretty confident and knows what she’s doing. And she was, obviously she was seeing something in the spirit that was making her a little wary. And she finally said, “I’m just gonna tell you what I see as I’m praying for you. I see you filming the occult.”

SID: That’s the last thing I would think you would want to do.

DARREN: Yeah. My first thought was, uh-oh, is that a good thing or is that a bad thing? She said, “I actually see you filming the demonic.” And I don’t know exactly how to take that. And then she said, “This is what the Lord says. You have to go into the darkness to show the light.”

SID: But you didn’t really understand this prophetic word until you went back to that crazy church, the Toronto Airport Church, and you’re sitting there minding your own business, and what happened?

DARREN: I’m in the middle of worship and the last thing I’m thinking about is anything relating to film, and literally I get pushed back into my seat, and I figured, looking back now, I figured it was more like, “I want your attention.” So I literally, this force kind of pushed me back into my chair. And he spoke really, really clear to me. And he said, “You need to do two things. You need to show that there’s a war and that it’s real, a war between light and darkness. And then I need you to show that the only way we can win this war is through love.” And that’s all it told me. And as soon as I heard that I understood what Heidi’s prayer meant and I understood what my marching orders were for this next film.

SID: Your marching orders were?

DARREN: To go make a film about love.

SID: But how do you make a film about something called love?

DARREN: That’s the question, and I kept getting that over and over again. They were saying, “Make a movie about God’s love.” And I said, “Well how do you film that?” And my wonderful answer to them was, “I don’t know.”

SID: Okay. He goes out to the place, I think about where witchcraft, with the trials and everything, Salem, Massachusetts. He goes to a new age occult type of witchcraft type of festival. Why did you go there?

DARREN: Because I thought it would be a good idea and I wanted to go pick a fight, basically, because I figured–

SID: You’re a believer in the Messiah. Why do you want to pick a fight? You’re nice evangelical.

DARREN: I’m also a filmmaker. So I figure, okay, I’m making this movie about the clash between light and dark. Let’s go to this place and let’s go to a place where they celebrate the darkness and let’s just go in there with our cameras blazing, and I’ll go with Jason Westerfield, who was a friend of mine who was in my first movie, and let’s just go see what God does there. I’m thinking what’s gonna happen is it’s gonna be manifestations everywhere and they’re gonna get really angry and try to kick us out.

SID: Listen, I have seen Jason in operation and this man walks in tremendous prophecy and signs, and wonders, and all day long, nothing. He’s praying for people. Nothing. You even put it on film. But then a man and a couple of his buddies in a red hood comes there. You had set up your, what was the purpose when he walked up to you?

DARREN: Well what we had done, you have to understand, what we had done all day, we were praying for people and we’re sneaking around, okay. Like I’m–we’re hiding the camera and all this other stuff. We’re trying to like sneak up on people and it’s just not working and God’s not answering any of our prayers and nobody is getting healed. Nothing. And so we realize we’re doing something wrong. And so we had to, we said, let’s just make a spectacle of ourselves and put the camera in the middle and let people come to us. And that’s exactly what we did. And so one of the first people that came to us–

SID: This person with the red hood, this guy’s a witch. Imagine what’s about ready to happen. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.