Sid Roth

SID: Do you know I was just thinking there is no time in eternity? We’re the only people that have time, and during this period in which we have time. So many things are grabbing at our emotions, our feelings, so many things happening on earth right now. So many things happening in our families, so many crisis coming on, but I have a guest, Lance Wallnau, who is a specialist in teaching people how to move from the natural, your current circumstances, get your focus right, and move, transition to the supernatural: In A Heartbeat. We just heard a prophetic word, this same prophet prophesied over a man that was thinking about running for state senator, Lance, tell me about this.

LANCE: Kim had delivered the word to Michael Krause, and he and his wife were considering two issues: having children and his career, and Kim gave the word they were going to have a son named Caleb and that he would walk in the same political steps as his father. Well that confirmed two important issues, and so Michael went off to the campaign trail and proceeded after a couple of months of hard campaigning to fall down with a heart attack, literally, I’ve got a video tape he just sent me because I interviewed him in Georgia last month, just to get the details straight. He was unconscious some 32 minutes without a heartbeat or oxygen to the brain.

SID: So that means he was brain dead.

LANCE: Brain dead, physically dead, you know you don’t recover from that; that is what CPR is all about, get the heart and keep the oxygen moving. So he is in the hospital, they have of course you know a monitor with a clock, so they can see how many minutes are going by, he’s in there and his wife comes in with the prophesy, see what gets your attention, gets you. There are only two states any believer can be in: resourceful or un-resourceful, when we are un-resourceful we shut up the spirit, we clam. You know we kind of freeze so that God can’t communicate an answer because we are in trauma, but if we can learn to operate in a resourceful state by focusing on what the Spirit says to do next, those do next, do next, do next steps lead to miracles.

SID: So what he is saying right now is that no circumstance is impossible, you are looking at why it is impossible, there is a much better place to look. Go ahead.

LANCE: Absolutely, the Jews saw the giants in the land, and though they had miracles behind them, they said we were as grasshoppers in our sight. The key there is how you define the situation is the way the situation will end up defining you.

SID: So what happens to this dead man now, who was supposed to have a son by the name of Caleb, and was supposed to be a state senator?

LANCE: The wife takes the prophetic word; she is in a resourceful state, she pushes her way past security, who is fighting with her because the doctor’s are trying to resuscitate a dead man, and she grabs him by the leg,

SID: Which is not an easy thing to do!

LANCE: You have to have compassion on those doctors. And while this delirious Pentecostal is prophesying, security is trying to pull her out, this senator is having a vision, but the prophesy I want you to catch is she is saying the word of the Lord says, you are going to have a son and your son is going to be named Caleb, and he is going to walk in the same steps as his father, we are going to raise him together, together, so she is emphasizing the unfulfilled purpose that yet was on this dead man’s life. Now while that is happening, the senator is out of his body; he is in a vision. He sees seven islands – those seven islands become seven mountains, one great mountain appears behind him and Jesus speaks and says that mountain, that great mountain, is the mountain of my kingdom, and it is greater than all the kingdoms of this world. Those seven mountain are seven world kingdoms, and you are called to go into that one, and he points, it is the political mountain, and then the Lord says, if there is a “but” ever in heaven, I heard it with this vision, Jesus said but there must be agreement. See the power of agreement with what God shows you is what gets you through the contradiction of the circumstance you are presently going through.

SID: How can two walk together unless they be agreed? Go ahead.

LANCE: Exactly, and Ken has shared with me that he calls this thing optical fusion, it’s when you see what God sees, it enables you to be able to say what God showed you, so prophetically we must embrace a visionary life.

SID: So, what’s happening with this corpse that his wife is there?

LANCE: As Jesus says there must be agreement, she shifts her strategy, once again when you are working out of resourcefulness, you are open to the next thing. She stops prophesying, ‘cause that is not working, and she says, “Michael in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ come back into your body now.” She commands him to come back into his body, he says goodbye, he’s back in his body, the heartbeat comes back on the monitor; they got a man now who is resuscitated. Longest living brain dead person, thump.

SID: Now if that had been you, and that was your husband dead at the table, do you know what you would be doing? You would go to pieces. But what should someone do? Let’s suppose they didn’t have a prophetic word, what should someone do?

LANCE: You know this is the amazing things, that we tend to react based on our conditioning, all of these responses are conditioned, which is why what I am believing here is important, is believers need to know that you always respond in crisis based upon the way you respond to everything. What gets your focus always gets your state, so if you are in the habit of disempowering self-talk, and we speak at the rate of 1500 words per minute, Sid, that means that as fast as you talk or I talk people are already jumping to conclusions and spinning around Dallas faster than we can get there, because the mind is thinking faster than even human words speak, in that 150 words you are either creating an environment that is going to be conducive to empowering and perceiving God’s utterance, or you are creating a climate that is conducive to fear and negativity. As soon as circumstances go bad, the average person doesn’t call for the elders of the church, I mean forget a prophecy, let’s just go to the scripture, we don’t call for the elders, we call for the undertaker.

SID: Of course, what is the feedback you are getting on people that are listening to “In A Heartbeat” and are doing what it says?

LANCE: I’m surprised, I’m surprised because the people that actually are listening to it and applying it, are noticing that they have an overcoming capacity to shift their condition, in here and in here, so that their circumstances shift. The people that are applying it are telling me that their lives are changed because they now have command of the environment rather than praying to God to change the environment.

SID: So many people give up and you give up too soon, let me tell you what happened to me, I told Lance I was going to surprise him, a couple of nights ago, I’m ready to go to bed, and I feel my heart racing, literally racing, pump, pump, pump, pump. I know something is up, so I have a little Handy-Dandy blood pressure monitor, I put the thing on, and it is not high, it is outrageous! I’m debating, should I get in the car and go to the hospital, I’m doing okay, but this is off the charts. What should I do? And I started thinking about Lance’s teaching and I started saying to myself prophetic words that people had spoken over me, I started, and you say no one has ever spoken a prophetic word over me, huh, you got a whole book called the Bible, take the 91st Psalm, you’ve got enough there to take care of every problem that could possibly come against you, everything is covered there, so I decide I’m going to go to bed, I go to bed, I fall asleep, an hour later I wake up and my heart is pounding, pound, pound, pound, pound. What am I going to do? And I decided I am going to just rehearse the promises of God, I mean this may sound foolish to the natural mind, but that’s what I did, and you know what happened when I was saying these promises of God to myself, I fell asleep, and guess what happened when I woke up? It was morning, and when it was morning I went and I took my blood pressure and it was lower than normal. I tell you, In A Heartbeat.

LANCE: Exactly, exactly, you know they tell you about the plague, you know the bird, you know the news media makes a living off of cultural hypnosis, they traumatize you, then they re-traumatize you, and then they re-traumatize you, it’s like selling aspirin, or selling drugs, because it works when there is trauma, so everybody watches the news, how many times could you see those planes going into the building. A friend of mine said the easiest evangelism he ever did in New York was a week after 911 because everybody’s head was like this looking in their mind at those planes going into the building, it was not a problem evangelizing, because it’s a traumatized culture. If you don’t choose what gets your attention, the culture will choose it for you. Jesus’ words in the last days was “possess ye your souls.” Now think about that, you possess your soul. The possession of your soul was the command he gave you for the last days.

SID: Are you saying to me that the Messiah has already moved, are you saying to me the Messiah has already done everything he is going to do, are you saying to me that it is finished, are you saying to me that he is waiting on you. Number one, if you just know about him, if you just believe in him, there is more, there is so much more, and just between you and him you can come to know the Messiah of Israel, you can come to have intimacy with him, you can have intimacy with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and in a heartbeat you can change your world. You love your world so much, how would you like your marriage changed, how would you like your relationship with your children changed, how would you like to see your health situation changed? How long is it going to take Lance? In

LANCE: In a heartbeat; that fast.

SID: That fast, I tell you that I know God’s word is true, let every man be a liar, but God’s word is true, and there is something breathing in your right now, the Lord is breathing in your right now, it’s the spirit and love of God right now is breathing into you, go for it, go for intimacy with God. Remember if it’s not natural, consider it supernatural.

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SID: I hope you were just with us, I had Lance Wallnau on, as I still do, and Lance was in Israel and he heard a prophetic word from God; he literally heard God speak, I mean why should that be so unusual to you? Because the Bible says, my sheep, here’s what Jesus said, “my sheep hear my voice”, and I tell you that you hear His voice all the time, but this was a clear booming, Charlton Heston, Ten Commandments type of voice that Lance heard, and what he heard was, you see those children frolicking in the pool in Israel, when they come of age, what will happen?

LANCE: The greatest move of God that has happened in history is going to happen in Israel.

SID: So not only did Lance hear this, but I want you to hear a prophetic word from a friend of his, tell me about Kim Clement as a prophet.

LANCE: Kim is, probably in my opinion, one of the preeminent authorities on hearing and speaking the voice of the Lord. Has an Elijah like mantle where he prophecies by words of knowledge, he hears the utterance, so he will not bubble one up necessarily, it is not his gift. He hears it and speaks it.

SID: Okay, where did this prophecy take place? What were the circumstances?

LANCE: This prophecy as others he just recently told me, have been coming out of Hollywood which strikes me as interesting.

SID: Hollywood?

LANCE: Because it had to do more with the Jewish people, more of a revelation coming about Israel when he is there on that platform than in any city.

SID: Isn’t that interesting? Here Hollywood has been used, and many Jewish people as we know are in the entertainment industry, so Hollywood has been used unfortunately for things that people that don’t have intimacy with God might do. But what will happen, well, I want you to hear this word, let’s go to this prophetic word by Kim Clement.

And just lately I’ve been shouting out amongst the crowds that we go to, Yeshua, the name of Jesus. Why am I doing this? Because I’m feeling that the nation of Israel is going to have a moment, an opportunity, to meet the Messiah on a national and international scale. Some of the greatest apostles are going to come from a Damascus Road experience and are going to be Jewish people. Do you understand that God has not forgotten about them? God will not forget about them, He said just watch and see, there is going to be a raising up of Messianic Jews, if you will, and they will preach the gospel as no man has preached the gospel. Come on!

SID: I tell you I don’t know what’s going on with you right now, I don’t know what’s going on with you right now, Lance, but I, what’s going on with me is there is a fire in my bones, and as I said to you earlier on the telephone when I was interviewing you a few months back, this generation, it’s ready to pop like popcorn and I can see it just happening, but simultaneous with that there is a lot of destruction coming, and the thing that, you don’t know this, and I saved this show to tell you, but this teaching I believe could very well possibly have saved my life, and I’ll tell everyone about that in a moment but it’s called “In a Heartbeat” tell me how you happened to come up with this teaching.

LANCE: On September 10th, the day before September 11th, I was in an International Management Seminar in Hawaii, and I went out to lay out at the Conconacki Hilton, and as I laid out on a lounge, the Spirit of the Lord just intuitively, you know how God just pops you, had me sit up. I sat up, and an eighty pound branch flew right behind my head, boom, and smashed. People that were walking by thought that I was killed but I had sat up just before the branch came down. And a wing blew past me, that was ominous in its presence and I sensed what is this; should I not be in Hawaii, and right away the Lord spoke to me and said, “though a thousand fall at your side, and ten thousand at your left hand, it will not come near you.” And suddenly I went from panic to elation, when I realized that whatever got my attention was what was going to get my condition. And that moment, instead of being anxious and fearful about what almost happened, I went into joy instantly. I did not know the next day the subject of the management seminar was “Emotional Mastery,” and I listened to the worlds authorities talk about how to deal with crisis as news came in that their office at the World Trade Center was just caught, we had people listening to cell phone messages Sid, that were live from that morning, coming to Hawaii. And that was when the Lord spoke to me and said, “This is an hour when the spirit of terror and fear is loosed on the earth, chose your focus wisely, take heed what you hear and how you hear and you will move in an extraordinary level of accuracy in the Spirit, if you chose what gets your attention, that was the beginning of the teaching.

SID: And I have to tell you, as I listened to this teaching, there were many things that I knew, but what you believe is the supernatural should be natural in the marketplace, in every arena of life.

LANCE: Absolutely, absolutely.

SID: And unfortunately too many people are relying on Christianity as entertainment sport, rather than spectator sport, and the times we are living in right now it could cost you your life if you are not doing that. I tell you that you can, you know how fast is a heartbeat? How fast is a heartbeat?

LANCE: I would say when you click your fingers; that’s how fast your state changes, depending on what gets your attention.

SID: Okay, we’re going to get your attention, we’ll be right back after this word and you are going to get some understanding how you can switch from the natural – to the supernatural, don’t you dare switch this television set, you have to find out, be right back.

SID: Hello Sid Roth here with Lance Wallnau. Now you would have to be a zombie, you would have to be dead not to realize what is going on, on planet earth. Since 911 there has been a change, anyone who reads the newspaper recognizes it’s a new age; it’s an age of fear. Look at this bird flu: no one knows where that’s going to end, look at the hurricanes that we’ve had, an entire city in the United States just literally obliterated. Look what’s going on in Iran, I mean we know what’s going on in Iraq, but you know what’s going on in Iran? They’ve got missiles that can go to Israel and they are like this close to having atomic bombs, I mean the world has never been in such a precarious place, but I have good news for you. I have a guest, Lance Wallnau, who has a series on how to get out of the circumstances around you, not to be an ostrich, but how to literally move into the supernatural, you know how long it is going to take? In A Heartbeat. So Lance, you are minding your own business, you are fasting for forty days, what are you, some kind of spiritual superman or something? And you go to a meeting and a prophet walks up to you from Israel of all places, and what does he say?

LANCE: The prophet pulls me out of the crowd and says, “God is going to use you to reach your people,” assuming that I knew I had a Jewish background, at which point I didn’t know I had a Jewish background, and so I had grown up in the Episcopal church, and I looked at him quizzically and said, “I’m going to be reaching Episcopalians?” And he said, “Not Episcopalians, Jewish people.” I said, “Jewish people?” He said, “Go home and ask your father.” It was a word of knowledge he got. So it was a Full Gospel Businessmen’s Meeting in Hershey, I stepped out into the lobby, I called my father who is an attorney in Philadelphia, I said, “So Dad, I just got a word from a missionary from Israel who says that I should talk to you about my Jewish background.” There is this awful silence on the other end of the phone, and he says to me, which I knew right away was an indicator, he said, “Why don’t you come home and we will talk about that.”

SID: Oh, oh, so you know that he knows something you don’t know?

LANCE: Exactly, and now everybody on TV knows what he may not want them to know.

SID: All right, you know, and so what did he say?

LANCE: Well I go home and he’s got his office, he shuts the door, right away I know it is a serious meeting; a lawyer shuts the door, it’s confidential. I sit down and he said, “No one has asked me, none of your brothers have asked me,” he said, “Before I talk to you I want them to have the courtesy of finding out for themselves. Somehow you found out. Yes it’s true.” He pulls out a family tree, shows me the Cohen’s, and Moses Leo Wallnau, how they immigrated from Germany to Philadelphia, met in Philadelphia, married in Philadelphia and that was his grandparents who produced his lineage. And he decided that he wanted to break away from the Jewish persecution, being raised in the south, he saw the business disadvantages with Jews and he changed his name, from Morris Leo to Carl Newman.

SID: So now that you find out, what does he say to you?

LANCE: Well, it’s a quizzical response, on the one hand he is delighted that there are people that actually are enthusiastic about Jewish believers and Jesus, which is an oddity to him entirely, however he cautions me.

SID: You know what was an oddity 2000 years ago don’t you? Gentiles could be saved, imagine the nerve of those Gentiles, they can believe in our Jesus; I mean read about it in the Book of Acts, the whole, everything goes full circle, right Lance?

LANCE: It’s the truth, and his only caution was to sustain an element of realism about my enthusiasm, that not everybody is going to be happy about Jewish people no matter what era or group I hang out with. Which is probably true, there is a prejudice even among Christians that I’ve found, trying to eliminate Israel as a player in history, even Biblical prophecy, so I have discovered that that prejudice still is there and he cautioned me not to be overly optimistic about discovering my roots and the implications of someone celebrating that.

SID: But you had told me he said one other thing to you; that never forget your Jewish side or something to that effect.

LANCE: Well that’s right, he said, “Never forget this, that for the rest of your life you will have it in ink. You will have an instinctive rapport with Jewish people, and it’s in your DNA, it’s in your bones, it’s in your identity, you will know it because you will feel it.”

SID: So man, you are minding your own business and you go to your new homeland, Israel, and you go to a swimming pool, and you are looking at the kids frolicking and having fun and all of a sudden you hear a voice.

LANCE: Yeah, the voice, sixteen years ago, I’m in the pool and I, like a lot of Christians, I wanted to have a sentimental spiritual experience; but I didn’t do a Christian tour, I just went to go see the country and it’s raw essence, and while I was in Arad, in a pool, I was kind of feeling; sixteen years ago, it was like, it wasn’t, I would say it was a tight spiritual environment, that’s what I felt. And I said Lord, what about the Israel harvest, are you going to move in Israel? And I turned my head, saw a child, children about three- years-old to six-years-old playing. The Lord spoke very clearly, “When that generation becomes the generation that is the adult in Israel, I am going to move in a great move of My Spirit.” And I believe He was saying the greatest move of His Spirit was going to happen with that generation of Israeli, when they grow up to the age of being adults. So I sat back and looked at that and just thought wow. Now my wife was pregnant on that trip with a son who was born right after that event, after that word, he is sixteen. And I literally can watch the era of that generation growing and growing and growing to the point where they are becoming teenagers, getting drivers licenses right now.

SID: And you were doing an interview show with me, and you said I was one of the first people to ask a question, what was that?

LANCE: Yeah, you know what is God saying to you about Israel? And no one had asked me that before and it forced me to have to go back to, and I was honest with you, I mean I would love to say something current; I said the last thing I heard was sixteen years ago. God spoke to me and said, “When that generation becomes an adult, when that generation becomes of age, my greatest move is going to be happening in Israel.” And that was when you stung me by saying, “Well Lance, how long ago was that?’ I said about sixteen years. And you said, “Well how old are they now?” I hadn’t thought about it, because I kept picturing, you know, that swimming pool, but then I looked at my son and I thought, “They are coming of age, the age is now.”

SID: I tell you the age is now and what does that mean to you? It means plenty because Israel is God’s time clock when you see Jewish people red hot for Jesus, I tell you that that middle wall of separation comes down between Jew and Gentile and what Jesus said, I pray that theses may be one. Who? Baptists and Catholics? No, they didn’t exist when Jesus prayed that prayer in John 17:21. I pray that they might, who is they? Jews and Gentiles, I mean give me a break. I pray that Jews and Gentiles might be one so the world will believe. When that occurs, the next verse says, and the same glory, the same presence of God my Father that is on me will be on them. You think this is something, wait till you hear this prophetic word from Kim Clement, I tell you the hair on your hands, so you got hair on your hands, is going to stand up, don’t go away I’ll be right back.

SID: My guest will show you shock video footage of a woman who was groomed from birth to be a bride of Satan. Before her supernatural encounter with God her eyes were completely black, no whites showing, and she had occult power to open doors without touching them.

Can ancient secrets of the supernatural be rediscovered? Do angels exist? Is there life after death? Are healing miracles real? Can you get supernatural help from another dimension? Has the future been written in advance? Sid Roth has spent 30 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid on this edition of It’s Supernatural.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. My guest has been on It’s Supernatural previously, Darren Wilson. He comes from a nice evangelical, non-supernatural background, and he filmed from all over the world the most supernatural film you’ll ever see. It’s called “Finger of God” and I’ll never forget, what was it? Was it your aunt that got the gold, too?

DARREN: My aunt and uncle.

SID: At that time in your paradigm of what is Christianity, that must have rocked your world.

DARREN: Yeah, I didn’t know what to do with it. I still, to be honest with you, I still don’t know what to do with it. I mean, and I think they’re still kind of shocked by that.

SID: If I was going to cast someone in the role of filming the supernatural, it would be you. It would. God did a good job. You did a good job.

DARREN: Well thank you.

SID: And I love the story. I mean, here this guy doesn’t believe in the supernatural. So his whole family goes out to the Toronto Airport Church where there’s a move of God’s spirit, and he goes reluctantly. And a guy gets up and he starts saying, “There’s an angel inside this auditorium.” What did you think?

DARREN: I thought he was either crazy or lying. I thought when are they gonna pass the basket to give this guy money. And it was just one of those things where I’m just, I’m like, this is why I don’t like this place. This is why I don’t like this type of Christianity or whatever. I just wasn’t comfortable and I just didn’t think it was true.

SID: But then what happened?

DARREN: Then I met him. I met this angel who, about five minutes later, I had my eyes closed and the angel passed right by me, and I opened my eyes. I didn’t see anything. Closed my eyes, there he is. And he came up to me and he spoke to me, and he asked me three times, “Are you ready?” And I didn’t really know what he was talking about. I knew that about five months before I had kind of patented this idea to make this little movie about the strange things that Christians believe. And he said, “Are you ready?” three times. And I said yes, not knowing exactly what I was saying yes to. And the third time I said, “Ready for what?” And he said, “Make that movie.” And that was kind of what pushed out the door. I thought I was making a little short film and it turned into something bigger.

SID: And I have to tell you, I saw that movie. I loved that movie. In fact, I’m in that movie. But I expected the next movie to be the same type of movie. And actually, when I heard the title I said, “Hmmm, ‘Furious Love’”. I wonder what Darren is up to. And so you met a mutual friend of ours, Heidi Baker, and she prophesied something over you.

DARREN: Yeah. That’s what started this one. I was actually had just finished filming “Finger of God” and we were in Istanbul, Turkey, and was just worried about how I was gonna put this “Finger of God” together. The last thing on my mind was any kind of a sequel or follow up, or anything. And so she started to pray for me because I was starting to kind of freak out a little bit, because I had all this footage and I didn’t know what to do with it. So she’s praying for me and right in the middle of her prayer she gets really uncomfortable, and I’m not used to seeing Heidi uncomfortable. She’s usually pretty confident and knows what she’s doing. And she was, obviously she was seeing something in the spirit that was making her a little wary. And she finally said, “I’m just gonna tell you what I see as I’m praying for you. I see you filming the occult.”

SID: That’s the last thing I would think you would want to do.

DARREN: Yeah. My first thought was, uh-oh, is that a good thing or is that a bad thing? She said, “I actually see you filming the demonic.” And I don’t know exactly how to take that. And then she said, “This is what the Lord says. You have to go into the darkness to show the light.”

SID: But you didn’t really understand this prophetic word until you went back to that crazy church, the Toronto Airport Church, and you’re sitting there minding your own business, and what happened?

DARREN: I’m in the middle of worship and the last thing I’m thinking about is anything relating to film, and literally I get pushed back into my seat, and I figured, looking back now, I figured it was more like, “I want your attention.” So I literally, this force kind of pushed me back into my chair. And he spoke really, really clear to me. And he said, “You need to do two things. You need to show that there’s a war and that it’s real, a war between light and darkness. And then I need you to show that the only way we can win this war is through love.” And that’s all it told me. And as soon as I heard that I understood what Heidi’s prayer meant and I understood what my marching orders were for this next film.

SID: Your marching orders were?

DARREN: To go make a film about love.

SID: But how do you make a film about something called love?

DARREN: That’s the question, and I kept getting that over and over again. They were saying, “Make a movie about God’s love.” And I said, “Well how do you film that?” And my wonderful answer to them was, “I don’t know.”

SID: Okay. He goes out to the place, I think about where witchcraft, with the trials and everything, Salem, Massachusetts. He goes to a new age occult type of witchcraft type of festival. Why did you go there?

DARREN: Because I thought it would be a good idea and I wanted to go pick a fight, basically, because I figured–

SID: You’re a believer in the Messiah. Why do you want to pick a fight? You’re nice evangelical.

DARREN: I’m also a filmmaker. So I figure, okay, I’m making this movie about the clash between light and dark. Let’s go to this place and let’s go to a place where they celebrate the darkness and let’s just go in there with our cameras blazing, and I’ll go with Jason Westerfield, who was a friend of mine who was in my first movie, and let’s just go see what God does there. I’m thinking what’s gonna happen is it’s gonna be manifestations everywhere and they’re gonna get really angry and try to kick us out.

SID: Listen, I have seen Jason in operation and this man walks in tremendous prophecy and signs, and wonders, and all day long, nothing. He’s praying for people. Nothing. You even put it on film. But then a man and a couple of his buddies in a red hood comes there. You had set up your, what was the purpose when he walked up to you?

DARREN: Well what we had done, you have to understand, what we had done all day, we were praying for people and we’re sneaking around, okay. Like I’m–we’re hiding the camera and all this other stuff. We’re trying to like sneak up on people and it’s just not working and God’s not answering any of our prayers and nobody is getting healed. Nothing. And so we realize we’re doing something wrong. And so we had to, we said, let’s just make a spectacle of ourselves and put the camera in the middle and let people come to us. And that’s exactly what we did. And so one of the first people that came to us–

SID: This person with the red hood, this guy’s a witch. Imagine what’s about ready to happen. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.