Sid Roth

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with John Fenn. John Fenn was in Mexico and he had a visitation from the Messiah of Israel, Jesus. Tell me what you saw, what happened, John.

JOHN: Well I was minding my own business. That’s probably the biggest thing to know right off the bat.

SID: You weren’t particularly spiritual.

JOHN: I wasn’t. I wasn’t trying to visualize anything. My two friends were on up ahead. I was kind of lingering behind. In fact, I was looking down at the rocks in the road making sure I wasn’t twisting my ankle. But suddenly, inside of me there was an excitement in my spirit man, not like butterflies being nervous, but there was an excitement. And I didn’t know what that was. It was like the presence of God, but it was much stronger. And finally I turned the corner and I was contemplating, what is that, what is that? And suddenly up out of me I heard, “It’s Jesus.” And when I did that, my head raised up and there about 15 away Jesus was standing right in the bend of the little road. And I was so startled. I looked at him and I said, “What are you doing here?” And he looked at me and he said–

SID: That would not be what I would say, but go ahead.

JOHN: And he said, “I’m here to meet the needs of the village.” And I said, “How can I help?” And he looked at me and he said, “Meet the needs of the village.” And some other things were said, and then he said, “I want to teach you how to hear the voice of the Father and know the ways of the spirit.” And that began about a 45- or 50-minute teaching time where he explained to me just the things of the spirit, about what we were talking about earlier, where the spirit man is really the eternal part of us. Our spirit and soul are eternal and when somebody, for instance, goes to Heaven, it’s their spirit and soul, which his in Heaven. And he pointed to the very first example was in Luke, Chapter 16, where two men had died, one man ended up in Hell, the other man in Paradise by Abraham’s bosom. And he began teaching me. He said, “Notice,” he said, “their body is dead and buried, but they saw each other, they heard each other, the spoke to one another. One wanted water because of the torment of the flames.” And he said this, he said, “The root of your senses is actually in your spirit man.” And he started giving me different examples of life, how I had not realized that, but operated in it. And I think this is what happens with many of our viewers. When the Lord started talking to me about this and teaching me, I realized, well this is very common. Let me give you an example. There was a particular store that my wife and I knew, and we had been in there, and there’s just a heavy feeling there. And we recognized that as a wrong spirit. And the Lord pointed that out and He said, “How did you know that?” And I said, “It didn’t feel right.” And He said, “The Bible uses the word ‘perceive and discern.’” And He said, “That describes the process by which your mind picks up on what is happening in your spirit.” And that’s what happened. We walked in and our mind was like a teeter-totter. You take in the physical senses, but also you check on the inside, not with just physical, but the inside of you and sense that spiritual atmosphere.

SID: Well for instance, when I go into a store and someone is involved in perhaps New Age or involved in other things like that, I can literally feel something.

JOHN: Yes.

SID: Or witchcraft.

JOHN: Right. And what you pointed out to me is that that spirit man is how we make contact with the spiritual realm. In other words, there are people who say that they have had, the world uses the word “premonition” maybe. You may see different things, a premonition, or they have a hunch. Someone has a peace about something that they’re doing or it doesn’t feel right. All those are symptoms in the spirit man. And when he began teaching me all this I began realizing that all through my life I had moved in elements of it, but it took on a whole other dimension, a whole other level through his teaching. And he referred to examples in his own life. For instance, one of the examples he used from his own life was when the woman with the issue of blood touched the hem of his garment. And Luke 8 tells us that he was hemmed in and pushed, and thronged and mobbed by a group of people, but he stopped and he said, “Who touched my clothes?” And the disciples were like, “What do you mean, who touched you? Everybody’s touching you.” But he said, “No, I felt power leave me. I felt power go out of me.” And then that woman being afraid came forward and said, “I got healed.” And so what he told me, he said, “You have to train yourself, even mobbed with all your physical senses in operation.” He said, “Notice how I trained myself to perceive what was happening in my spirit and I felt that power go out of me.” He said, “I want you to train yourself to do that same thing.”

SID: You also have a gift of discernment, which you can see what’s going on in the invisible
world. Right now on this set, can you see anything, and if so what?

JOHN: Several angels. And it’s not something that I initiate. It’s something that just happens to the discerning spirit. And you know as we even visited over a meal earlier, there was an angel. And a lot of the words of knowledge I receive come from angels, and this is completely scriptural. Some people don’t understand that when an angel appeared to Cornelius in his household, or even the angels at the tomb of Jesus, they gave them words. They gave them instructions and words of knowledge, or words of wisdom of what that’s called. And so a lot of the words of knowledge I receive for people often times come through the angels, and it’s always this, it’s always something like, “The Father wants them to know.”

SID: Now do you have a personal angel?

JOHN: I have one that I have seen. Shortly after this visitation in 1986 is when it began and I’ve been walking with it for the last 25 years.

SID: And do you see your angel all the time near you?

JOHN: Not all the time, but it’s very often when, it’s unusual to go more than a week or so without seeing him. I had incident, for instance, one time I didn’t see him for two weeks straight. And suddenly he was there and I said, “Where have you been?” And he said, “In the same way you take sleep for refreshment, we go to the Throne.” And I said, “Well I hope everything was okay while you were gone for two weeks.” And I insulted him and he looked very serious, and he said, “I would not have left unless everything was taken care of.”

SID: That’s a good feeling.

JOHN: That is a good feeling. But it made me realize there’s a whole different perspective that they have.

SID: I love it the way spiritual senses can be activated. And John has such an anointing for it. He actually had an experience with Heaven and found things out that you’ll be fascinated with. Don’t go away. We’ll be right back after this word.