Sid Roth

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Darren Wilson, what happens when this unassuming college professor who had never done a film in his life, he is skeptical, that is almost an understatement, of the supernatural, he is commissioned by an angel to do a film on miracles around the world. Darren I understand you were coerced by your father and your wife to go to a church in Canada, what was going on there?

DARREN: Yeah, well first of all I have to point out that the Lord had actually given me the idea for this movie about four or five months before and I didn’t want anything to do with it.

SID: Why?

DARREN: Well because one, I didn’t have any money, two, I didn’t have any contacts, and three I didn’t want to make any explicitly Christian movie, I thought it was out there, a little cheesy and a little inauthentic so to speak. I really didn’t want to become a part of that. And so I ran from it and in May of 2006 my father and my wife kind of bribed me I guess you could say to go to this church, it was a big, they were having a big conference, and so I went basically to make my wife you know, happy. And so we were there and I was very, very judgmental of what was going on, and all of the people. It was a very charismatic kind of thing and people were whooping and hollering and doing their little shimmy shakes or whatever you want to call it and just being very kind of wild and exuberant, let’s put it that way. And I remember it was the last night of the conference and I was kind of standing in the back, it was right in the middle of worship and one of the speakers got up on stage and just kind of announced that an angel had just entered the room, his name was Breakthrough. And he had just come here from Nigeria or something like that.

SID: Did you believe him?

DARREN: No, no, no, no. And he is here, he is here with all of his angel buddies and they are just going to come and just minister to us and let’s just keep worshipping the Lord. And so I am sitting in the back thinking yeah, right, okay so apparently there is an angel in the room now and  this guy happens to know his name and knows where he had been for the last ten years, and so on and so forth. So I am in the back, you know trying to worship thinking all these unholy thoughts and I have got my eyes closed like every good evangelical should, and as my eyes are closed I see this thing pass in front of my eyes, you know sometimes your eyes are closed but you can tell that somebody just walked in front of you. And I opened my eyes real quick just kind of out of reflex and there was nothing there. And I closed them and the figure is right here, still standing there. And I had my eyes closed but I could see like this outline. And this was very strange to me. I never had anything like this happen to me before. And then the figure turns and he walks up to me and he is standing there, I can see the outline like he was looking at me face to face. And he is literally the most intense individual I have ever met in my life, I mean just…

SID: Are you seeing shadows or are you seeing actually a clear being?

DARREN: It is shadow; it is like a shadow of an outline and he was just crackling with intensity, I cannot describe, like a drill sergeant on steroids, you know really just you know fired up. And he speaks to me; it was just ringing in my ears when he spoke to me, and he says, “Are you ready?” I had no idea what he was talking about. But I know enough because I grew up in a church, I know enough that when an angel asks you a question that you just say yes. So I said yes. And he says again, “Are you ready?” I said yes. And he says a third time, this time I could see his hands reach up for my head so I know he is like grabbing my head, I couldn’t feel anything, and he screams in my face, “Are you ready?” And I finally said, “Yes, ready for what?” I don’t know what he is talking about. And he stops and he stares and became so, so intense, and he says, “Make that movie.” And he starts to move away. And I just thought in my head, wait, because this is probably the coolest thing that has ever happened to me, and so as soon as I think it he is back in front of me, but this time he is not intense anymore, he is literally the most gentle, loving individual that I have every encountered. Just oozing love. And at this point there is no doubt that I am speaking with Breakthrough, it is not a question.

SID: That’s the name of the angel.

DARREN: That’s the name of this angel, yeah. And so he says to me, I can see his hand kind of reaching for mine, and this time he speaks very softly and he says, “What do you want, what do you need, I will stay with you all night if you need me to.” And I didn’t need anything.

SID: How would you like an angel to walk up to you and say what do you want, what do you need, and I will be here as long as you need my help. I mean give me a break. So what did you do?

DARREN: I blubbered, I didn’t need anything, I just didn’t want the experience to end and I realized he wasn’t leaving, and I guess he was waiting for me to release him. And so I said okay well you can go now. And then he just drifted off and the rest of my family got touched immediately after that in their own way. So I came out of it as white as a ghost, my family looks and like what happened to you and I said I gotta go be alone because something just happened to me. And so I went up to a little balcony that they had there, and I sat down and I started to pray and it was like the Lord just, he overcame me with his love. And it was the first time that I truly felt the true weight of his love for me, and I was a puddle on the floor and so I heard clearly, he said, “Stand up.” So I stood up and I walked to the edge of the balcony and I looked down at all these people that a half an hour before I was judging mercilessly, and were you know still doing their shimmy shakes, still doing their hooping and hollering, but this time I saw them through the Father’s eyes you know, and I saw the brokenness and I saw the hurt that is in them and I heard the Lord say very clearly, he said, “Will you make if for them?” And at that point I said yes.

SID: You are going to find out about dead people that came to life, you are going to find out about students that on a Friday night for fun they go to the hospital, the emergency ward just to pray for the sick, and guess what, they get better, don’t go away we’ll be right back.